Re: [SLUG] getting files from Govt departments

2000-08-04 Thread jon
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > Hi, > > I am to be given a 13MB ascii file by a NSW department. Good luck - I've never met a Government department that knows what an ASCII file is (with appologies to any government IT staff on the list !!). If you can get a "computer literate" person there to

Re: [SLUG] Re: Nautilus Progress

2000-08-04 Thread Jeff Waugh
> other than for images, what use is such a small view of a document? > (and what do you do for, eg: sound files?) Might leave that one for Conrad. :) Perhaps a sample as you move your mouse across? Now *that* would be innovation! > for complicated formats (eg: word doc or > postscript) genera

[SLUG] Re: Nautilus Progress

2000-08-04 Thread Angus Lees
On Sat, Aug 05, 2000 at 03:23:02PM +1000, Andrew Reilly wrote: > On Sat, Aug 05, 2000 at 01:40:51PM +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote: > > Whilst I was hoping for some debate and discussion on FS UI's and such, it's > > always good to solve a few troubles along the way... :) > > Nautilus looks as though it

Re: [SLUG] Re: Nautilus Progress

2000-08-04 Thread Andrew Reilly
On Sat, Aug 05, 2000 at 02:37:59PM +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote: > > and when will gtk support X resources? they kick ass and would be a > > shame to lose. > > X resources *are* cool. Is there some kind of (slap me if this sounds > backwards) GUI tool that will query an apps X resources and allow > mo

Re: [SLUG] Zmodem transfer to an telnet NT box

2000-08-04 Thread Andrew Reilly
On Sat, Aug 05, 2000 at 01:38:58PM +1000, George Vieira wrote: > What I meant by command line is that the users are using CU under linux to a > dial up server which is NOT TCP/IP and is just plain text based. Hence the > connection is texted based. > Once your logged in it drops you into a C:\ pro

Re: [SLUG] Compulsory listserv?

2000-08-04 Thread Anand Kumria
On Sat, Aug 05, 2000 at 06:51:50AM +1000, Roland Turner wrote: > Scott Donkin wrote: > > > Responding, slowly. Thanks for responding Raz, but your note wasn't of any help to Scott either. He asked on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] to be unsubscribed so I did that for him manually. > It is possible that

Re: [SLUG] Nautilus Progress

2000-08-04 Thread Andrew Reilly
On Sat, Aug 05, 2000 at 01:40:51PM +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote: > Whilst I was hoping for some debate and discussion on FS UI's and such, it's > always good to solve a few troubles along the way... :) Nautilus looks as though it has some really nice features. It didn't take long for Mac OS-X's "thum

Re: [slug] auto ftp web site

2000-08-04 Thread Adam Moore
> > i want to automatically mirror the site onto our isp > > ftp:\\ftp.myisp.com/~myid/html > > the programs i've seem bring sites down not upload them > > can i have some suggestions please [..] > Try scripting Steve. This pretty basic script should help you ncftp has a recursive option that's

Re: [SLUG] Nautilus Progress

2000-08-04 Thread Andrew Reilly
On Sat, Aug 05, 2000 at 01:24:40PM +1000, Matt wrote: > Ermm .. I always remember having trouble restoring windows > after I have minimised them in (??) Enlightenment ? Once they > were minimised I would have to call a taskbar to get them > back, I just discovered that an ALT TAB seems to restore

[SLUG] Re: Re: Nautilus Progress

2000-08-04 Thread Angus Lees
On Sat, Aug 05, 2000 at 02:37:59PM +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote: > X resources *are* cool. Is there some kind of (slap me if this sounds > backwards) GUI tool that will query an apps X resources and allow > modification? I remember some discussion regarding where to find an apps X > resources from a co

[SLUG] Re: telstra adsl bug?

2000-08-04 Thread Angus Lees
On Sat, Aug 05, 2000 at 02:26:26PM +1000, Roland Turner wrote: > > Have you read the docs that Andrew Morton pointed out yesterday? > i've read goddamn everything (except the atm rfc's, i wasn't in the mood) since neither of you can stick to the questions without trying to guess what problems

[SLUG] getting files from Govt departments

2000-08-04 Thread jimd
Hi, I am to be given a 13MB ascii file by a NSW department. We've tried twice so far. The attempt first was burned onto a ISO9660 CDROM by (presumably) a Win98 machine. Using RH6.2 I could only get 4096 bytes off before I got an I-O error. The filename is of the 8.3 form. I tried on a separate m

Re: [SLUG] Re: Nautilus Progress

2000-08-04 Thread Jeff Waugh
> (note: gtk themes, which apply uniformly to all gtk apps, still fit > the "consistent look and feel" goals. and windowmanager themes usually > appliy uniformly to all windows, so they don't count either) Says Gus, still happily using WindowMaker :) I must admit, that in amongst my rants on th

Re: [SLUG] Nautilus Progress

2000-08-04 Thread Tom Massey
Matt wrote: > Ermm .. I always remember having trouble restoring windows after I have > minimised them > in (??) Enlightenment ? Once they were minimised I would have to call a > taskbar to > get them back In Enlightenment, or pops up a list of everything running, so you can bring it back afte

[SLUG] Re: porting c (Only a lil bit OT)

2000-08-04 Thread Angus Lees
On Sat, Aug 05, 2000 at 11:17:02AM +1000, Alex Salmon wrote: > hi all > i have made a nice lil c program that uses > > #include > #include > #include > #include > > It compiles and works nicly in linux with gcc, I am trying to run the prog > in win but i am having a little bit of trouble co

Re: [SLUG] telstra adsl bug?

2000-08-04 Thread Andrew Morton
Angus Lees wrote: > > before everyone gets really excited about masquerading and adsl, i > think i've uncovered a bug in telstra's end of the adsl > connection.. more details later, i just want to confirm some things > first: Yes, ATM cells contain a 48 byte payload and a 5 byte header. But you

Re: [SLUG] telstra adsl bug?

2000-08-04 Thread Roland Turner
Angus Lees wrote: > before everyone gets really excited about masquerading and adsl, i > think i've uncovered a bug in telstra's end of the adsl > connection.. more details later, i just want to confirm some things > first: > > i presume i'm right in saying that i should *NEVER* see a fragmented

[SLUG] Re: Nautilus Progress

2000-08-04 Thread Angus Lees
On Sat, Aug 05, 2000 at 12:34:30PM +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote: > Is themeability a cop-out for good design principles (a tough call given the > experience behind Eazel)? i just don't get "skins" (/chrome/themes/whatever). from what little attention i've been paying to gui development, the goal seem

Re: [SLUG] Nautilus Progress

2000-08-04 Thread Jeff Waugh
> Sorry I meant to say, Since you remove your taskbar, you dont have a > clocks and other applets, are you okay with not having a clock > anywhere or do you get the time from another program ? As Cantanker would say, "Use your f*%&#ing prompt!" I, however, still like a bit of clock applet actio

RE: [SLUG] Zmodem transfer to an telnet NT box

2000-08-04 Thread George Vieira
What I meant by command line is that the users are using CU under linux to a dial up server which is NOT TCP/IP and is just plain text based. Hence the connection is texted based. Once your logged in it drops you into a C:\ prompt to do maintenance work. But the users usually require to send or r

[SLUG] telstra adsl bug?

2000-08-04 Thread Angus Lees
before everyone gets really excited about masquerading and adsl, i think i've uncovered a bug in telstra's end of the adsl connection.. more details later, i just want to confirm some things first: i presume i'm right in saying that i should *NEVER* see a fragmented TCP packet? (cos the DF bit

Re: [SLUG] Nautilus Progress

2000-08-04 Thread Jeff Waugh
Whilst I was hoping for some debate and discussion on FS UI's and such, it's always good to solve a few troubles along the way... :) > I'm also having troubles removing the only panel on the screen, the > remove from panel > menu is disabled, how do I get rid of it ? This is a particularly ann

Re: [SLUG] Nautilus Progress

2000-08-04 Thread Matt
> > Just looking at the screenshots, sometimes I can't > > see a "taskbar" anywhere. Yes, I didn't notice > That's mostly because they're window shots -> there's only one full screen > shot there. > > > What's the alternative way of switching between > > applications ? A hotkey to cycle betwee

[SLUG] Re: samba printer problems

2000-08-04 Thread Angus Lees
On Fri, Aug 04, 2000 at 02:21:23PM +1000, Anand Kumria wrote: > Also, I'm not sure but I think "writable =" must be yes for things to work. no. under smb, "printing = yes" is kinda like a d-w--w--wt directory. if you make it writable, you could probably mess with other print jobs, etc. -- - Gu

Re: [SLUG] STG Browser Based Banking Feedback

2000-08-04 Thread Andrew Reilly
On Sat, Aug 05, 2000 at 12:13:25PM +1000, Jon Biddell wrote: > Has anyone tried ANZ ? I believe they support *nix... I've never had any problems with ANZ from FreeBSD native Netscape, so I'm sure that Linux or other versions would work. -- Andrew -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing Lis

Re: [SLUG] Zmodem transfer to an telnet NT box

2000-08-04 Thread Andrew Reilly
On Sat, Aug 05, 2000 at 12:11:08PM +1000, Jon Biddell wrote: > > > >I need a WinDoze program that runs on a command line to accept or > > >transmit a file using the zmodem protocol. There's alot out there but > > >they are all for the GUI and since I'm telnetting into a NT4 box, all > > >I have a

Re: [SLUG] Compulsory listserv?

2000-08-04 Thread Conrad Parker
On Fri, Aug 04, 2000 at 10:53:38PM +1000, Scott Donkin wrote: > At 10:43 4/08/00 +1000, you wrote: > > >Ah ha - the mailing list has since been moved. Many times. > > Many times? What, in the last month? I only subbed on 1 July. :) No, only once. SLUG was donated a server earlier this year,

Re: [SLUG] Nautilus Progress

2000-08-04 Thread Jeff Waugh
> Just looking at the screenshots, sometimes I can't > see a "taskbar" anywhere. That's mostly because they're window shots -> there's only one full screen shot there. > What's the alternative way of switching between > applications ? A hotkey to cycle between them ? Depends on your window m

Re: [SLUG] Nautilus Progress

2000-08-04 Thread Matt
Just looking at the screenshots, sometimes I can't see a "taskbar" anywhere. What's the alternative way of switching between applications ? A hotkey to cycle between them ? -- Matt Kozera Jeff Waugh wrote: > > Hi all, > > There's some new Nautilus screenshots up on the Eazel site: > >

[SLUG] Nautilus Progress

2000-08-04 Thread Jeff Waugh
Hi all, There's some new Nautilus screenshots up on the Eazel site: http://nautilus.eazel.com/screenshots/aug-02-2000 Nautilus has some really great features, and some very bold ways of displaying information about your files - even becoming the viewer (or really, a container). Looks pretty

Re: [SLUG] STG Browser Based Banking Feedback

2000-08-04 Thread Jon Biddell
> >How typical of the banks. See the magic word "Unix", and blame the > >operating system for their inadequacies. > > > >FWIW, I was simply attempting to login to the service - not even > >trying to DO anything - and continually getting "Service Unavailable > >-Please try again later". > > > >Mor

Re: [SLUG] Zmodem transfer to an telnet NT box

2000-08-04 Thread Jon Biddell
> >I need a WinDoze program that runs on a command line to accept or > >transmit a file using the zmodem protocol. There's alot out there but > >they are all for the GUI and since I'm telnetting into a NT4 box, all > >I have access to is the command prompt. I am currently using the good > >old bz

Re: [SLUG] porting c (Only a lil bit OT)

2000-08-04 Thread Jeff Waugh
> the Question is-- is sys/socket.h a *nix only thing or shoud i be able to > compile it in win? is there a way to compile progs for win in linux? And > is there any free way of doing the above as my budget goes from about 0 to > 0 ;-) Hi Alex, You may want to have a look at cygwin, a "Unix-li

Re: [SLUG] porting c (Only a lil bit OT)

2000-08-04 Thread Rick Welykochy
Alex Salmon wrote: > #include > #include > #include > #include > > It compiles and works nicly in linux with gcc, I am trying to run the prog > in win but i am having a little bit of trouble compiling it. Here is some sample code I've used to compile socket-based proggies on both *nix and W

[SLUG] STG Browser Based Banking Feedback

2000-08-04 Thread Grant Parnell
Dazza wrote: >How typical of the banks. See the magic word "Unix", and blame the >operating system for their inadequacies. > >FWIW, I was simply attempting to login to the service - not even >trying to DO anything - and continually getting "Service Unavailable >-Please try again later". > >Moron

[SLUG] porting c (Only a lil bit OT)

2000-08-04 Thread Alex Salmon
hi all i have made a nice lil c program that uses #include #include #include #include It compiles and works nicly in linux with gcc, I am trying to run the prog in win but i am having a little bit of trouble compiling it. I have borrowed borland c++ 5 from a friend to see if it could compi

[SLUG] Zmodem transfer to an telnet NT box

2000-08-04 Thread Grant Parnell
George wrote: >Hi all, > >I need a WinDoze program that runs on a command line to accept or >transmit a file using the zmodem protocol. There's alot out there but >they are all for the GUI and since I'm telnetting into a NT4 box, all >I have access to is the command prompt. I am currently using t

RE: [SLUG] Linux and Clustering..

2000-08-04 Thread George Vieira
But a cluster would also help if a machine fails... see your PIII 1000Mhz with 1Gb memory and 20Gb LVD drive is useless if the machine fails which is why I though of a cluster. Apparently as cluster can handle a machine failing but just starts to slow down... I may be wrong and just heard somewhe

Re: [SLUG] BASH command return value

2000-08-04 Thread Andrew Reilly
On Fri, Aug 04, 2000 at 11:31:13AM -0400, Subba Rao wrote: > In this case, when my command fails the BASH variable $? value is displayed > in my prompt. What is happening is that a command return value stays there > until an new command is issued. A newline for the shell will still return the > pr

[SLUG] NEC V25 CPU

2000-08-04 Thread Grant Parnell
Ken Yap wrote: >I entered NEC V25 CPU into google.com and the first hit I got back >was > >http://einstein.et.tudelft.nl/~offerman/chiplist.long.html > >which explains that the V25 is an enhanced version of the V20, which >in turn is a souped up 8088. There are some NEC part numbers which >you ca

Re: [SLUG] Compulsory listserv?

2000-08-04 Thread Roland Turner
Scott Donkin wrote: > > Christ I'm having a good night... > > I just merrily hit the OK to all the spelling suggestions I got, including > changing unsubscribe to un subscribe. > > The msg I sent should read: > > OK - let's do this again slowly: > Can you please give me the *correct* address A

Re: [SLUG] Re: STG Browser Based Banking Feedback

2000-08-04 Thread Roland Turner
Rick Welykochy wrote: > And of course the bestest in online banks use SSL :) I kind of took that for granted. Has anyone heard of an online banking facility that doesn't? - Raz -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/sl

Re: [SLUG] BASH command return value

2000-08-04 Thread ken
> When I change the PS1 sring to, > > PS1='($?)`whoami`@\h:\w =>' > > The return value for $? is immediately displayed in the next prompt. > > (0)subb3@myhost:~ => > (0)subb3@myhost:~ => lssdfh > (258)subb3@myhost:~ => > (0)subb3@myhost:~ => > (0)subb3@myhost:~ => ls > > (0)subb3@myho

[SLUG] BASH command return value

2000-08-04 Thread Subba Rao
My PS1 prompt has the following string, PS1='($?)\u@\h:\w =>' In this case, when my command fails the BASH variable $? value is displayed in my prompt. What is happening is that a command return value stays there until an new command is issued. A newline for the shell will still return the prev

Re: [slug] auto ftp web site

2000-08-04 Thread Sonam Chauhan
> i want to automatically mirror the site onto our isp > ftp:\\ftp.myisp.com/~myid/html > > the programs i've seem bring sites down not upload them > can i have some suggestions please Try scripting Steve. This pretty basic script should help you get started if you know Perl. Where it says "you

Re: [SLUG] Re: STG Browser Based Banking Feedback

2000-08-04 Thread Rick Welykochy
Roland Turner wrote: > Rick Welykochy wrote: > > > > Two cheers here. Westpac's online banking works fine with a > > Netscape 4.7+ or IE 5.0+ browser. On Linux and 'Doze. > > Only Javascript and a couple of cookies are required ... > > nothing fancy. > > Comm Bank doesn't even require cookies. I

Re: [SLUG] Compulsory listserv?

2000-08-04 Thread Terry Collins
Scott Donkin wrote: ...snip > It ain't as if I am not happy reading all the posts - they're great. I > just haven't got much time. Then, can I refer you to http://www.woa.com.au/linux/how-tos/sortingmail.html so you can continue your subscription and retain your own archive of SLUG infor f

Re: [SLUG] ADSL, physical installation

2000-08-04 Thread John Ferlito
On Fri, Aug 04, 2000 at 08:44:37PM +1000, Jon Biddell wrote: > What they do, I believe is bring the ADSL in on the second pair - your > phone line (well, most - mine wasn't !!) has 2 pairs, one as a "reserve", > which they use for the second phone line / ADSL / whatever... Nope it comes

Re: [SLUG] Linux and Clustering..

2000-08-04 Thread Terry Collins
George Vieira wrote: > > Hi all, > > I'd just like to get some views and opinions on Linux Clustering. I have a > client who deals with a huge database and the Intel P II 400Mhz with a RAID > XX and 384MB memory is not cutting it. > Also the machine has just cacked it with a drive failing and er

Re: [SLUG] Compulsory listserv?

2000-08-04 Thread Scott Donkin
Christ I'm having a good night... I just merrily hit the OK to all the spelling suggestions I got, including changing unsubscribe to un subscribe. The msg I sent should read: OK - let's do this again slowly: Can you please give me the *correct* address AND command for unsubscribing from this li

Re: [SLUG] Compulsory listserv?

2000-08-04 Thread Scott Donkin
At 10:43 4/08/00 +1000, you wrote: OK - let's do this again slowly: Can you please give me the *correct* address AND command for unsubscribing from this list. I have now sent mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the command in the body: un subscribe I have also tried using un subscribe and my emai

Re: [SLUG] Re: STG Browser Based Banking Feedback

2000-08-04 Thread Roland Turner
Rick Welykochy wrote: > > David wrote: > > > It's about the only thing Westpac gets right. Their > > internet banking runs on any late model netscrape, on any platform > > (Win/Mac/Unix) - so if Westpac can do it, why can't the others? > > Two cheers here. Westpac's online banking works fine wi

Re: [SLUG] Compulsory listserv?

2000-08-04 Thread Scott Donkin
At 10:43 4/08/00 +1000, you wrote: >Ah ha - the mailing list has since been moved. Many times. Many times? What, in the last month? I only subbed on 1 July. >> Who runs the show, please? > >As stated on *each* and *every* post that goes on the list: I was hoping to find a person. The perso

Re: [SLUG] Compulsory listserv?

2000-08-04 Thread Anand Kumria
On Fri, Aug 04, 2000 at 10:27:37PM +1000, Scott Donkin wrote: > Anyone know how to unsub from this list? Quite a number do; at least a couple every day. > I've RTFM'd and sent mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] as stated in the > "Welcome to the party, Pal" note I got from Majordomo when I first sub'd >

[SLUG] Compulsory listserv?

2000-08-04 Thread Scott Donkin
Anyone know how to unsub from this list? I've RTFM'd and sent mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] as stated in the "Welcome to the party, Pal" note I got from Majordomo when I first sub'd but nothing works. Who runs the show, please? It ain't as if I am not happy reading all the posts - they're great. I

Re: [SLUG] Re: STG Browser Based Banking Feedback

2000-08-04 Thread Rick Welykochy
David wrote: > It's about the only thing Westpac gets right. Their > internet banking runs on any late model netscrape, on any platform > (Win/Mac/Unix) - so if Westpac can do it, why can't the others? Two cheers here. Westpac's online banking works fine with a Netscape 4.7+ or IE 5.0+ browser

Re: [SLUG] Re: STG Browser Based Banking Feedback

2000-08-04 Thread Matt Allen
I use St George's Internet banking every day in Netscape under RH6.2 Works for for me. I also use it on a windows machine, it loads a totally different applet which is much better than the old one that it loads under linux. Ah well. Matta -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http

Re: [SLUG] Re: STG Browser Based Banking Feedback

2000-08-04 Thread David
It's about the only thing Westpac gets right. Their internet banking runs on any late model netscrape, on any platform (Win/Mac/Unix) - so if Westpac can do it, why can't the others? Mind you, their commercial "DeskBank" only runs on Windows, and is very flaky On Fri, 4 Aug 2000, Erik de Castro

Re: [SLUG] Re: STG Browser Based Banking Feedback (fwd)

2000-08-04 Thread Erik de Castro Lopo
DaZZa wrote: > > How typical of the banks. See the magic word "Unix", and blame the > operating system for their inadequacies. > > FWIW, I was simply attempting to login to the service - not even trying to > DO anything - and continually getting "Service Unavailable - Please try > again later".

Re: [SLUG] ADSL, physical installation

2000-08-04 Thread Jon Biddell
At 08:48 PM 8/4/00, Matt Allen wrote: >Heya Jon, > >Dont feel left out, I live 15 mins from the city (Hunters Hill) and im not >getting it either :( > >The HH Council is really precious and wont let Optus hang cables either. >Bastards. May they choke in their own bile !! -- SLUG - Sydney Linux

RE: [SLUG] Linux and Clustering..(databases)

2000-08-04 Thread Andrew Shipton
On Fri, 4 Aug 2000, George Vieira wrote: > I was more inclined to use possibly a RAID 0/1 so I get the performance and > the redundency of the RAID with 2 RAID controllers to handle SCSI failures. > This is if it's in the one box though otherwise I'd have sepearate machines > with the drives and

Re: [SLUG] ADSL, physical installation

2000-08-04 Thread Matt Allen
Heya Jon, Dont feel left out, I live 15 mins from the city (Hunters Hill) and im not getting it either :( The HH Council is really precious and wont let Optus hang cables either. Bastards. Matta > Anyone have any idea when they are going to be rolling ADSL out to us "poor > people" in the coun

Re: [SLUG] ADSL, physical installation

2000-08-04 Thread Jon Biddell
> > > Socket in wall > | > | > | > / \ >/ \ > / \ > / \ > || > FilterADSL MOdem >

Re: [SLUG] ADSL, physical installation

2000-08-04 Thread John Ferlito
On Fri, Aug 04, 2000 at 07:43:00PM +1000, Roland Turner wrote: > A question for those who have actually had this installed: What is used > for a physical interface? > > Looking at Telstra's docs, the interface is described as an "FCC type > 68, 8 pin" connector. What is this? Clearly it's not the

[SLUG] ADSL, physical installation

2000-08-04 Thread Roland Turner
A question for those who have actually had this installed: What is used for a physical interface? Looking at Telstra's docs, the interface is described as an "FCC type 68, 8 pin" connector. What is this? Clearly it's not the usual 605/610 or modular connector, both of which are 6-pin. Do they ins

Re: [SLUG] HDD Failures (Was Linux and Clustering..)

2000-08-04 Thread Dave Fitch
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Doug Stalker) wrote: > How many other people have seen systems that have been working > fine for a very long period of time fail when reboot? And how many people have > lost a redundent RAID array to multiple HDD failure? we've had multiple disks fail at the same time, but no

Re: [SLUG] DNS segfaulting.. no errors - ARGH!

2000-08-04 Thread Mark Pearson
With symptoms like that I would strongly suspect a hardware error, most likely memory. Either get memory tester such as http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/memtester/, or run several kernel compiles Leon Strong wrote: > Ok, i've got a debian out of the box machine, running a 2.2.16 kernel, >