Re: [SLUG] UPSs and linux in general

2000-09-08 Thread James Wilkinson
On Fri, 08 Sep 2000, George Vieira generated: APC Smart-UPS 700va We got an APC SmartUPS 650 on our servers, you can get an 'NT monitoring cable' from Harris Tech and use it with... oh i forget which ups-monitoring software, but the cable works with it. note: ups cables aren't plain serial

Re: [SLUG] UPSs and linux in general

2000-09-08 Thread James Wilkinson
On Fri, 08 Sep 2000, John Wiltshire generated: any other box on the UPS which needs it. I'm assuming the same would work for Linux although it would probably be a lot easier to set up (given the relative difficulty of scripting on NT compared to Linux. Yeah, very f'n easy. genpowerd is the

Re: [SLUG] Gateway speeds extremely slow, yet others fine

2000-09-08 Thread Arunava Sen
i think you have a problem with your MASQ timeout values. try to play around with them. have you actually read the IP-Masqurade howto? its got an entire section dedicated to performance problems on simple routers like your one. goto: www.linuxdoc.org for the howto. Arun -- SLUG - Sydney

Re: [SLUG] Gateway speeds extremely slow, yet others fine

2000-09-08 Thread Thom May
Mayhap someone else should be wandering over to linuxdoc.org to work out how to set the correct date on their computer... ;-) thom At some point around Sat, Jan 02, 1999 at 12:40:15AM +1100, Arunava Sen spaketh thusly: i think you have a problem with your MASQ timeout values. try to play around

[SLUG] Why, Netscape... An Ode.

2000-09-08 Thread Jeff Waugh
Why, Netscape... You hog my memory. Why, Netscape... You use up all my RAM. You slow it down, and so I took away your sweet blink tag. Why, Netscape... You churn my hard disk. Why, Netscape... You take a year to load. If you must stay, we must dispense with bloat and this delay. But,

Re: [SLUG] Why, Netscape... An Ode.

2000-09-08 Thread Thom May
The really bizarre thing is that the FreeBSD version of netscape does none of these things - it's actually a pretty decent browser shock type="extreme"/ Any ideas why this is, folks? cheers thom At some point around Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 09:23:18PM +1100, Jeff Waugh spaketh thusly: Why,

[SLUG] APT strangeness...

2000-09-08 Thread Thom May
hey guys. trying to get the phase 2 X4 debs via apt... line in sources.list: deb http://samosa.debian.org/~branden/woody/i386 ./ apt-get update does it's stuff, works nicely. apt-get dist-upgrade correctly says 35meg to get blah blah blah then 404's each file... Failed to fetch

Re: [SLUG] APT strangeness...

2000-09-08 Thread Jeff Waugh
Thom May wrote: deb http://samosa.debian.org/~branden/woody/i386 ./ I would have recommended chopping off the woody/i386, but that doesn't seem to work. Try sucking down the debs and either install manually, or put them in your /var/cache/apt/packages (?memory?) directory. You ought to be

Re: [SLUG] APT strangeness...

2000-09-08 Thread Herbert Xu
Thom May [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: deb http://samosa.debian.org/~branden/woody/i386 ./ Try deb http://samosa.debian.org/~branden woody/i386/ -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmVHI~} [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page:

RE: [SLUG] HTML Editors

2000-09-08 Thread Jon Biddell
On Fri, 08 Sep 2000, you wrote: wow, you mean there are other editors apart from vi, I had to check for myself, now pico seems awfully like the dos edit.com program. I think I will stick to vi myself. No, It's like Wordstar, that venerable DOS WP program that actually WORKED !! --

Re: [SLUG] HTML Editors

2000-09-08 Thread Jon Biddell
~/.bashrc: alias :q!="exit" alias :wq="exit" alias :q="exit" :-) -- Regards, Jon -- "It is irresponsible to connect a Windows machine to the Internet" ... John Wiltshire (SLUG) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List -

[SLUG] XFree86 4.01 Debs

2000-09-08 Thread Thom May
Right, here we go. First impressions - it's quicker than 3.6.10, and, since work has seen fit to give me a vaguely tarty video card - TNT Ultra 2 - i have accelerated drivers. ssystem etc absolutely screams along :-) yet to try quake 3 /unreal tourney it definitely seems worthwhile. however,

Re: [SLUG] XFree86 4.01 Debs

2000-09-08 Thread Jeff Waugh
Thom May wrote: it definitely seems worthwhile. however, there are still somewierdnesses. There are some dependency problems with Helix GNOME (surprised?), but mostly with -dev packages. They're being fixed today (US time) though. - Jeff -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[SLUG] linux jobs ##

2000-09-08 Thread Minh Van
do people use linux with real expectations of gaining 'pure' linux sys admin positions or do they use it as a sort of primer for unix admin jobs ? would, and could somebody who uses linux expect a realistic (good) outcome from an employer demanding linux or linux-related skills ? i'm just

Re: [SLUG] ext ascii (127-255) ##

2000-09-08 Thread Minh Van
On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 01:44:01PM -0400, Minh Van wrote: why can't i get the real extended ascii chart printed properly in the default linux cli ? somebody mentioned that it may be the type of font i'm using, but it neither works in X. echo -e "\016" switches your terminal to

Re: [SLUG] linux jobs ##

2000-09-08 Thread Jeff Waugh
Minh Van wrote: do people use linux with real expectations of gaining 'pure' linux sys admin positions or do they use it as a sort of primer for unix admin jobs? A little of both, I'm sure. would, and could somebody who uses linux expect a realistic (good) outcome from an employer

[SLUG] What is an HTTP0 request

2000-09-08 Thread Howard Lowndes
I am having difficulty accessing zdnet.com.au this morning, so I thought I would try with lynx to see what was happening and I got the following: Looking up www.zdnet.com.au. Making HTTP connection to www.zdnet.com.au. Sending HTTP request. HTTP request sent; waiting for response. Retrying as

Re: [SLUG] linux jobs ##

2000-09-08 Thread Terry Collins
Minh Van wrote: do people use linux with real expectations of gaining 'pure' linux sys admin positions or do they use it as a sort of primer for unix admin jobs ? My first interest in lunix was as *nix system to keep my skills up and as a replacement for minix. would, and could somebody

[SLUG] Re: Why, Netscape... An Ode.

2000-09-08 Thread Angus Lees
On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 11:30:30AM +0100, Thom May wrote: The really bizarre thing is that the FreeBSD version of netscape does none of these things - it's actually a pretty decent browser shock type="extreme"/ Any ideas why this is, folks? i find the one on debian fairly stable too i think

Re: [SLUG] XFree86 4.01 Debs

2000-09-08 Thread Graeme Merrall
On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 03:01:59PM +0100, Thom May wrote: it definitely seems worthwhile. however, there are still somewierdnesses. the major one is that my vt's are totally shot - the brightness of the things drops to about 1% of the previous, but thats it. definitely worth it, i think..

RE: [SLUG] linux jobs ##

2000-09-08 Thread Dave Kempe
So yes, the potential is definitely there for people to get decent admin jobs if they are prepared to learn at home... From a potential employer perspective this is exactly the advice i give people when they ask what they shoudl do to get into computing. A bit of a challenge yes, but a great

RE: [SLUG] What is an HTTP0 request

2000-09-08 Thread Dave Kempe
I am having difficulty accessing zdnet.com.au this morning, so I thought I would try with lynx to see what was happening and I got the following: Looking up www.zdnet.com.au. Making HTTP connection to www.zdnet.com.au. Sending HTTP request. HTTP request sent; waiting for response.

Still is??: Re: [SLUG] linux jobs ##

2000-09-08 Thread Nik Lam
...and I thought my 5 was getting excessive... OK, let's get OT and have a "Mine's bigger than yours" Can we maybe also still talk about employment issues plesee? ;) I'm also pretty new to the IT industry, and would actually like to eventually specialise in gnu/linux/free

RE: [SLUG] linux jobs ##

2000-09-08 Thread Howard Lowndes
I have to agree with you there, but mostly in the server/gateway area; but having said that I have to admit to having one client with 30 Linux boxes spread across two states, right down to the desktop and not a Window in sight - it gives you a very satisfying feeling. As for dropping out of uni,

RE: Still is??: Re: [SLUG] linux jobs ##

2000-09-08 Thread Dave Kempe
a) continue with the degree (will take another 3 years at current rate) and find another job in which i would get a chance to develop linuxy skills? b) stay with the job and ditch (or defer) uni in favour of some sort of linux-based/related training, which could see me using such skills

Re: Still is??: Re: [SLUG] linux jobs ##

2000-09-08 Thread Jeff Waugh
except that i dont have enough spare time between work and uni to really get into playing/working with linux and this is frustrating me. Famous last words. :) a) continue with the degree (will take another 3 years at current rate) and find another job in which i would get a chance to

Re: Still is??: Re: [SLUG] linux jobs ##

2000-09-08 Thread Jeff Waugh
IMHO, staying longer at uni would have made me less employable. In the short term, or the long term (and in the long term, to what degree)? Sure, in this situation, you get short term bikkies. How fast are you going to 'climb the ladder' though? If your purpose at work is to earn money (mine

[SLUG] Re: Still is??: Re: linux jobs ##

2000-09-08 Thread Angus Lees
On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 10:43:48AM +1000, Dave Kempe wrote: b) stay with the job and ditch (or defer) uni in favour of some sort of linux-based/related training, which could see me using such skills in a job in the not too distant future? Hey its a daring thing to suggest, but if you

RE: Still is??: Re: [SLUG] linux jobs ##

2000-09-08 Thread Dave Kempe
In the short term, or the long term (and in the long term, to what degree)? Sure, in this situation, you get short term bikkies. How fast are you going to 'climb the ladder' though? If your purpose at work is to earn money (mine isn't, but that's another story), how fast/far do you think

[SLUG] FW: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender How did this happen?

2000-09-08 Thread Dave Kempe
I just got this bouncing then. I dunno why. -Original Message- From: Mail Delivery System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, 9 September 2000 9:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender This message was created automatically by mail

Re: Still is??: Re: [SLUG] linux jobs ##

2000-09-08 Thread Matt Allen
Dave Kempe wrote: In the short term, or the long term (and in the long term, to what degree)? Sure, in this situation, you get short term bikkies. How fast are you going to 'climb the ladder' though? If your purpose at work is to earn money (mine isn't, but that's another

Re: Still is??: Re: [SLUG] linux jobs ##

2000-09-08 Thread Darrell Burkey
IMHO, staying longer at uni would have made me less employable. In the short term, or the long term (and in the long term, to what degree)? old fart I think this is a point often times overlooked. Remember, that after you do not finish Uni there will be _many_ who do and will be just as

[SLUG] Re Dos boot floppy

2000-09-08 Thread Bill
Thanks to all who replied - problem solved now. Bill

Re: Describe your home systems [was: Re: [SLUG] linux jobs ##

2000-09-08 Thread RunTimeError
On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 09:49:47AM +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote: ...and I thought my 5 was getting excessive... OK, let's get OT and have a "Mine's bigger than yours" Good lord, what have you started? :) How about a SLUG screenshot archive? SOmewhere we can posty our desktops? :)

RE: [SLUG] linux jobs ##

2000-09-08 Thread Patrick Kelso
So yes, the potential is definitely there for people to get decent admin jobs if they are prepared to learn at home... From a potential employer perspective this is exactly the advice i give people when they ask what they shoudl do to get into computing. A bit of a challenge yes,

[SLUG] Re: Still is??: Re: linux jobs ##

2000-09-08 Thread Angus Lees
On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 11:40:14AM +1100, Matt Allen wrote: On the programming side of things, This is what *i* mostly do and all I think uni would have done for me is put me back 3-4 years. The question I ask is "Could uni have taught me how to write PHP and HTML". I guess sort of, maybe in

Re: [SLUG] Re: Still is??: Re: linux jobs ##

2000-09-08 Thread Jeff Waugh
"in the beginning was the command line" "eloi" and "morlocks" "the programmer's stone" "packers" "mappers" Thanks Gus. I was googling for all of these whilst trying to write a response - I don't need to write one now, plus I have all the links again. :) Read all of these. They elevate.

[SLUG] Netscape under Suse6.4 crashing on new mail

2000-09-08 Thread Terry Collins
Hello Sluggers Please CC any reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (then I can read it). I've just rolled out SUSE 6.4 and am trying to run netscape messenger part. The problem is that the moment I ask it to get new mail, it asks for the password, then crashes netscape totally. I'm hoping someone may