> thanks. That's just a tiny bit too terse for me.
> I've got debootstrap_0.2.45-0.2_i386.deb
> Next I'm looking at a netinstall CD.
> Do a net install, install debootstrap, up/down grade to the version I need
> to build for?
1. Install something sane on your development machine that won't pun
On 06/04/2006, at 11:26 AM, Voytek Eymont wrote:
On Thu, April 6, 2006 11:01 am, Peter Chubb wrote:
"Voytek" == Voytek Eymont <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Edit the file afterwards; delete all but the base64 encoded part.
Voytek> [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail]# { echo 'begin-base64 644 x.wav'; c
On Thursday 06 April 2006 13:57, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > I need to install a debian woody system to compile some bits for an
> > embedded box.
>
> You absolutely need woody for API/ABI compat with the embedded box you're
> building for? I'll assume yes for my answers. :-):-)
>
> > 1) can I ins
> There will be short talks given by Ben Leslie, Robert Collins and Andrew
> Bennetts. Some people will head off for a yum cha lunch at Golden Harbour
> in Chinatown and attendees are welcome to come. Approximate cost will be
> $25.
Justin Randell and I will be mucking around in the shallow end
> I need to install a debian woody system to compile some bits for an
> embedded box.
You absolutely need woody for API/ABI compat with the embedded box you're
building for? I'll assume yes for my answers. :-)
> 1) can I install ubuntu and use that?
Not directly, however...
> 2) If I can't, w
Hi
(wow this weeks hot topic)
I need to install a debian woody system to compile some bits for an embedded
box.
1) can I install ubuntu and use that?
2) If I can't, what's the quick easy way to get up n running. I assume the
rest of the development system is purely apt-get.
Thanks
James
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SL
On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 10:41:07AM +1000, Voytek Eymont wrote:
> I have "Mail version 8.1 6/6/93"
Oh dear. Please, install mutt or something.
> > { echo 'begin-base64 644 x.wav'; cat file; echo ; } | uudecode
>
> get 'iilegal line'
You can use openssl to en,decode base64; google for it.
I
On Thu, 2006-04-06 at 15:11 +1000, CaT wrote:
> Is this a cancellation type of cancel or a postponement type of cancel?
> :)
>
This is a postponement cancellation. If I can't get our speaker to
attend (he has declared himself too sick), then I shall drag out Blender
myself and give a demonstratio
On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 02:58:15PM +1000, James Purser wrote:
> Apologies to all, but due to unforeseen circumstances, I am going to
> have to cancel tonights talk on Blender which was to be held at the
> SCLUG meeting.
Is this a cancellation type of cancel or a postponement type of cancel?
:)
-
On Thu, 2006-04-06 at 14:58 +1000, James Purser wrote:
> Apologies to all, but due to unforeseen circumstances, I am going to
> have to cancel tonights talk on Blender which was to be held at the
> SCLUG meeting.
>
> The meeting will still be going ahead as usual. If anyone has anything
> they wo
Apologies to all, but due to unforeseen circumstances, I am going to
have to cancel tonights talk on Blender which was to be held at the
SCLUG meeting.
The meeting will still be going ahead as usual. If anyone has anything
they would like to talk about, or any questions they would like
answered,
[This is going way off-topic; followups to slug-chat please]
On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 11:45:29AM +1000, Philip Greggs wrote:
> Members want SLUG to expend it's resources for the General Interest.
> General interest means all members regardless of the colour and form of their
> Linux distributions.
On 4/6/06, Craige McWhirter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 2006-04-06 at 09:40 +1000, Visser, Martin wrote:
>
> > One project that I want to kick-off in fact is a sort of quick reference
> > matrix that describes how a particular administrative function can be
> > done across the major platfo
On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 11:43:10AM +1000, ashley maher wrote:
> G'day,
>
> A reminder for tonight.
>
> Tonight's SCLUG meeting Scott McCoy will be doing a presentation on
> Blender - a visual 3D animation application.
>
> Scott will show you how you can have profession video animations at home
>
> >Self-interest (enlightened, if possible) is the best driver
> there is.
> >Pure selflessness isn't really in vogue any more, and I
> don't think it
> >works really well without an external influence to keep your
> focused anyway.
> >
>
> Now, you've confirmed what bystanders have only hea
G'day,
I've been asked about times and trains etc.
Meeting starts at 7.30pm
The City Rail Timetable says the 5:36pm from Central will arrive at
North Wollongong at 7pm. It then takes 15 - 20 min to walk to UoW.
As UoW is the worst place to get around if you let me know you're on the
North Wollo
> The rumour vines says this: intending members using other distros are
> discouraged altogether from becoming members. The President's report was
> making this plain and clear - declining membership in recent years.
I don't think this is accurate at all. Membership has been declining due to
the
On Thu, April 6, 2006 11:20 am, Steve Lindsay wrote:
> On 4/5/06, Voytek Eymont <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've never really grasped completely how sound works on linux, but I
> know that if you run "aplay -l" you'll get a list of the cards that alsa
> knows about. eg.
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$
[snip]
> As far as the specific post to which I responded, my aim was purely to
> counter Peter's obvious frustration with Linux in general - very
> specifically his comment " why why why can't Linux ever just work?" . I
> merely hoped to demonstrate that it can and it does, at least from my
> exp
Matt wrote:
**CUT*
>> > neutral. It is perceived SLUG is driven by self-interest. There are
>
>Self-interest (enlightened, if possible) is the best driver there is. Pure
>selflessness isn't really in vogue any more, and I don't think it works
>really well witho
G'day,
A reminder for tonight.
Tonight's SCLUG meeting Scott McCoy will be doing a presentation on
Blender - a visual 3D animation application.
Scott will show you how you can have profession video animations at home
just like they use at WIN Television.
The particulars:
* Location: Univ
Hi all,
A reminder about the codefest this coming Sunday. (If you have any
questions for me personally, please make sure to Cc me, I am not
subscribed to slug@slug.org.au).
--- Event details ---
SLUG coders will be gathering together for a day of coding and talking
about coding.
Date: Sun
On Thu, April 6, 2006 11:01 am, Peter Chubb wrote:
>> "Voytek" == Voytek Eymont <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Edit the file afterwards; delete all but the base64 encoded part.
> Voytek> [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail]# { echo 'begin-base64 644 x.wav'; cat test;
> Voytek> echo ; } | uudecode uude
James Purser wrote:
On Tue, 2006-04-04 at 12:40 +1000, Matthew Hannigan wrote:
I would dearly love to move to palimpsest-posting, but given the
Yep, Peter, you've nailed it. | I want to see
side posting implemented
On 4/5/06, Voytek Eymont <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've inserted an Ensoniq PCI sound crad in a RHEL3, on power up, the
> 'altered hardware' picked it up as Ensqniq ES1370
>
> how can I test if I have sound support from command line ?
> (and, to tell me if I plugged speakers in correct jack...)
On Thu, April 6, 2006 10:33 am, Michael Fox wrote:
> On 4/6/06, Voytek Eymont <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> # munpack
>> -bash: munpack: command not found
>> # metamail
>> -bash: metamail: command not found
>>
>
> And for those commands to work you of course need them installed via
> the correct
> "Voytek" == Voytek Eymont <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Voytek> On Thu, April 6, 2006 10:28 am, Peter Chubb wrote:
>>> "Voytek" == Voytek Eymont <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> Most mime-compliant mailers have base64 coding/decoding built in.
Voytek> is there a command here to detach it
On Thu, April 6, 2006 10:28 am, Peter Chubb wrote:
>> "Voytek" == Voytek Eymont <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Most mime-compliant mailers have base64 coding/decoding built in.
I have "Mail version 8.1 6/6/93"
]# mail
Mail version 8.1 6/6/93. Type ? for help.
"/var/spool/mail/root": 1 messa
On 4/6/06, Voytek Eymont <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> # munpack
> -bash: munpack: command not found
> # metamail
> -bash: metamail: command not found
And for those commands to work you of course need them installed via
the correct package on your distro (or compiled/installed from source)
--
SLUG
> "Voytek" == Voytek Eymont <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Voytek> is there a way to decode base64 with uudecode ? # uudecode <
Voytek> test uudecode: stdin: No `begin' line
Most mime-compliant mailers have base64 coding/decoding built in.
uudecode expects a
begin 644 filename
line at the st
is there a way to decode base64 with uudecode ?
# uudecode < test
uudecode: stdin: No `begin' line
file has:
--voicemail_012343058987690970
Content-Type: audio/x-WAV; name="msg.WAV"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
Content-Description: Voicemail sound attachment.
Content-Disposition: attac
On 4/6/06, Peter Hardy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 2006-04-05 at 22:13 +1000, Lindsay Holmwood wrote:
>
> > We're looking at holding another Installfest this year combined with a
> > Deckfest, so it'll give people an install and information about the
> > apps on their desktop.
>
> Attempts
> On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 08:51:05AM +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote:
> > OCFS2 and GFS are supported in Ubuntu from 5.10 onwards.
>
> Nice!
>
> I believe OCFS2 made it into the standard kernel very recently; 2.6.16?
Yeah - though it has been in our .12 and .15 kernels for 5.10 and 6.06. It
is pretty
On Thu, 2006-04-06 at 09:40 +1000, Visser, Martin wrote:
> One project that I want to kick-off in fact is a sort of quick reference
> matrix that describes how a particular administrative function can be
> done across the major platforms.
That'd be brilliant. Happy to help in any way if it's need
On Thu, 2006-04-06 at 07:53 +1000, ashley maher wrote:
> Morning,
>
Thanks to everybody who responded.
Regards,
Ashley
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On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 08:51:05AM +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote:
> OCFS2 and GFS are supported in Ubuntu from 5.10 onwards.
Nice!
I believe OCFS2 made it into the standard kernel very
recently; 2.6.16?
Matt
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I guess I feel obligated to respond.
I can only assume that my "naming" puts me in the basket as one of the
"rude / inconsiderate / ill-informed posters". I am almost certain I
have never been rude on this list (please let me know otherwise), and as
I usually write a draft and think at least a lit
Kolab was just recently featured in the GWN (Gentoo Weekly Newsletter).
Might be something worth looking at, although I don't have any
experiance with it personally
On 4/6/06, ashley maher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Morning,
>
> Clearly I phrased my first question badly. (Thanks to those who ha
> What would people use for a MS Exchange FOSS replacement? ie linux server,
> outlook clients, with calendaring important.
> So I've been asked "if FOSS is so good show me". Ya gotta love a
> challenge.
"Good"
"Exchange Replacement"
"FOSS"
Pick any two. That's unfortunately the way it is r
> > 3) other stuff?
>
> You may be able to get GFS for a really recent Debian, 2.6.9 kernel or
> thereabouts. You will probably need OCFS if you want this to work on
> earlier / 2.4 kernels.
OCFS2 and GFS are supported in Ubuntu from 5.10 onwards.
- Jeff
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Morning,
Clearly I phrased my first question badly. (Thanks to those who have
responded.)
What would people use for a MS Exchange FOSS replacement? ie linux
server, outlook clients, with calendaring important.
A mate works in a MS based business and is having problems with their
exchange server.
Peter Hardy wrote:
It does shared calendaring by way of a proprietary plugin for Outlook
that'll set you back around $US30 per head for a handful of licences.
Less for larger volumes.
i hear the vtiger plugin is free
dave
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S
On Wed, 2006-04-05 at 21:38 +1000, ashley maher wrote:
> At a meeting tonight I was asked about shared calendaring on linux that
> plays well with outlook.
At the moment I'm trialling Sugar CRM[1]. I'm using the open source
release, but there's a couple of others with varying levels of features
an
On Wed, 2006-04-05 at 22:13 +1000, Lindsay Holmwood wrote:
> On 4/5/06, Craige McWhirter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > While many SCLUG members are involved in SLUG, unfortunately it's a been
> > a while (years?) since SLUG has run an install fest. Something to think
> > about.
>
> November 2004,
Simon Males wrote:
ashley maher wrote:
G'day,
At a meeting tonight I was asked about shared calendaring on linux that
plays well with outlook.
Going through the slug mailing list archives looks like this gets asked
regularly. I did some googling based on previous answers. I thought
worth as
Slightly related, well it is multi-channel {:-), but does anyone have
any experience with using a DEC Storage works array under dual linux
hosts?[1]
1) can it be done?
Yes. It's a filesystem issue, not specifically a host issue, although
you do need to make sure that your storageworks array
Del wrote:
> e.g. to get multi-path fibre SCSI working through a SAN backend,
Slightly related, well it is multi-channel {:-), but does anyone have
any experience with using a DEC Storage works array under dual linux
hosts?[1]
1) can it be done?
2) which distros?[2]
3) other stuff?
TIA
[1] f
Jeff Waugh wrote:
I can think of a few broader topics which would make *vastly* more
> sense (and be less risky) than 'data centre'.
Like Linux On Old/Ancient Hardware {:-)
Says someone with 3 sparc, 3 Dec & 1 Axil boxen underfoot
--
Terry Collins {:-)}}}
email: terryc at woa.com.au ww
ashley maher wrote:
G'day,
At a meeting tonight I was asked about shared calendaring on linux that
plays well with outlook.
Going through the slug mailing list archives looks like this gets asked
regularly. I did some googling based on previous answers. I thought
worth asking again.
What are
I've inserted an Ensoniq PCI sound crad in a RHEL3, on power up, the
'altered hardware' picked it up as Ensqniq ES1370
how can I test if I have sound support from command line ?
(and, to tell me if I plugged speakers in correct jack...)
dmsg has
es1370: version v0.38 time 18:22:00 Oct 3 2003
PC
My experience when I first attended SLUG after a Redhat 7.2 install with
problems with my cd burner was to be told by someone that we are mostly
Debian users here. I went away and didnt come back for a couple of
years, tried various distros RHEL3, Mandrake, Xandros, then changed
hardware and picke
Craige McWhirter wrote:
While many SCLUG members are involved in SLUG, unfortunately it's a been
a while (years?) since SLUG has run an install fest. Something to think
about.
At the AGM last month, it was brought up the idea of not having
installfests as such, but instead 'deckfests' [1], wh
there was a redhat users group that got in touch and were encouraged to
become a sig if they wanted last year
Ken
James Purser wrote:
In keeping with the current discussion, a thought occurs. As I
understand it, there is a SLUG Debian Special Interest Group, for those
who either use or develop
On 4/5/06, Craige McWhirter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> While many SCLUG members are involved in SLUG, unfortunately it's a been
> a while (years?) since SLUG has run an install fest. Something to think
> about.
November 2004, admittantly. We found that the last few Installfests we
ran were attra
G'day,
At a meeting tonight I was asked about shared calendaring on linux that
plays well with outlook.
Going through the slug mailing list archives looks like this gets asked
regularly. I did some googling based on previous answers. I thought
worth asking again.
What are people using at the mom
On Wed, Apr 05, 2006 at 08:54:56PM +1000, Ben Donohue wrote:
> Does a Debian distro have auto updates such as Red Hat?
You can use cron-apt if I understand you.
> However I'm willing to give it another go. Is there a way to easily
> patch it up to date?
> I'm talking about point and click type o
> Does a Debian distro have auto updates such as Red Hat?
> I use CentOS where I can update the packages very easily.
> I tried Debian once but the install was too hard at the time.
> However I'm willing to give it another go. Is there a way to easily
> patch it up to date?
> I'm talking about p
Does a Debian distro have auto updates such as Red Hat?
I use CentOS where I can update the packages very easily.
I tried Debian once but the install was too hard at the time.
However I'm willing to give it another go. Is there a way to easily
patch it up to date?
I'm talking about point and cli
On Wed, Apr 05, 2006 at 07:58:00PM +1000, Craige McWhirter wrote:
> On Wed, 2006-04-05 at 17:06 +1000, Matt Palmer wrote:
>
> > The first was incredibly successful
>
> > The third, which was run just a few weeks ago, was apparently
> > a raging success as well
>
> I was at one and three. Both
Heh,
once one of my team was asked how to do voice to text.
The reply was "play it and be ready with a notepad and a pencil."
Ben
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On Wed, 2006-04-05 at 15:58 +1000, Del wrote:
> * Craige McWhirter (responding to a post about RHCE exams by saying
>"or even better, do the LPI[1] exams".
For the sake of issue separation, it's a bit of stretch to bring in my
preference for vendor neutral qualifications as anti-RedHat sent
On Wed, 2006-04-05 at 17:06 +1000, Matt Palmer wrote:
> The first was incredibly successful
> The third, which was run just a few weeks ago, was apparently
> a raging success as well
I was at one and three. Both were great. The third one, held a few
weekends ago, was the best install fest I've
> "del" == del <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
del> To take another Dean Hamstead thread back to the list:
>> If you have problems with you SAN drivers in redhat, perhaps you
>> should be calling redhat or your vendor - not asking on slug.
del> (a) SLUG stands for "Sydney Linux Users Group". I
Dean Hamstead wrote:
> Im only replying to this email as i was mentioned in it.
>
> May i start of by saying that i do agree with dels comments that
> some people really aren't interested in assisting with non-debian
> concerns.
I'm a Debian and Ubuntu user. Its been many years since I last used
> I'm in. Where do we start? Mailing list? Pub meet?
Figure out a venue (JSBH isn't so hospitable anymore), and send an announce
to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can probably get venue tips from the other SIG
organisers, who have been looking for places.
- Jeff
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James Purser wrote:
In keeping with the current discussion, a thought occurs. As I
understand it, there is a SLUG Debian Special Interest Group, for those
who either use or develop for Debian. Could not something similar be
setup for FC/RH users?
I'm in. Where do we start? Mailing list? Pub
This one time, at band camp, Del wrote:
>So (in the interests of improving SLUG) perhaps it's time for a data
>centers mailing list @slug.org.au -- keep it vendor neutral and get
>some of the folks working in the larger data centers involved. A possible
>new source of SLUG members, and maybe some
Jeff Waugh wrote:
So (in the interests of improving SLUG) perhaps it's time for a data
centers mailing list @slug.org.au
I think that's an extremely awkward 'first topic split' for SLUG. It was a
tough call to split off the chat list a few years back, but ultimately I
think that was success
> In keeping with the current discussion, a thought occurs. As I understand
> it, there is a SLUG Debian Special Interest Group, for those who either
> use or develop for Debian. Could not something similar be setup for FC/RH
> users?
Absolutely - but no one's done the work (cf. Matt's post). :-
In keeping with the current discussion, a thought occurs. As I
understand it, there is a SLUG Debian Special Interest Group, for those
who either use or develop for Debian. Could not something similar be
setup for FC/RH users?
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> So (in the interests of improving SLUG) perhaps it's time for a data
> centers mailing list @slug.org.au
I think that's an extremely awkward 'first topic split' for SLUG. It was a
tough call to split off the chat list a few years back, but ultimately I
think that was successful. If we were to
You're not the last RH user nor sysadmin on the list :)
Glad to hear it. :)
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> > neutral. It is perceived SLUG is driven by self-interest. There are
>
> Self-interest (enlightened, if possible) is the best driver there is.
> Pure selflessness isn't really in vogue any more, and I don't think it
> works really well without an external influence to keep your focused
> anyw
To take another Dean Hamstead thread back to the list:
If you have problems with you SAN drivers in redhat, perhaps you should
be calling redhat or your vendor - not asking on slug.
(a) SLUG stands for "Sydney Linux Users Group". I don't see anything
in the title that implies "Sydney Linux n
On Wed, Apr 05, 2006 at 06:25:58 +1000, Jamie Wilkinson wrote:
> This one time, at band camp, Del wrote:
> >
> >>re-inventing the wheel. further, one asks another flame-bait question -
> >>are there actually really savy redhat users? on this list?
> >
> >Yes. Me. (I think I'm the last one who ha
This one time, at band camp, Del wrote:
>
>>re-inventing the wheel. further, one asks another flame-bait question -
>>are there actually really savy redhat users? on this list?
>
>Yes. Me. (I think I'm the last one who hasn't been scared off -- I
>certainly know other experienced Red Hat users a
This one time, at band camp, Dean Hamstead wrote:
>we debian users can be quite elitist.
"Dean Hamstead does not represent myself nor the Debian project."
>of the q&a's seem to be very low level. thus, it may be that many of the
>more advanced users see recommending debian as a way of skipping o
On Wed, 2006-04-05 at 17:06 +1000, Matt Palmer wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 04, 2006 at 08:22:52PM +1000, Grant Parnell wrote:
> > Ashley Maher organised a CodeFest and had an installfest. Unfortunately
> > the Installfest didn't get the numbers for success at UOW but the point is
> > he tried!
>
> Just
On Tue, Apr 04, 2006 at 08:22:52PM +1000, Grant Parnell wrote:
> Ashley Maher organised a CodeFest and had an installfest. Unfortunately
> the Installfest didn't get the numbers for success at UOW but the point is
> he tried!
Just to clarify here -- there have been three installfests at UoW that
On Wed, Apr 05, 2006 at 12:55:19PM +1000, Philip Greggs wrote:
> >SLUG server being offline for a few extended outages due to
> >hardware issues which thankfully have now been sorted recently
> >by removing hardware from the equation - ie it's now on a
> >virtual server.
>
> I check SLUG web site
re-inventing the wheel. further, one asks another flame-bait question -
are there actually really savy redhat users? on this list?
Yes. Me. (I think I'm the last one who hasn't been scared off -- I
certainly know other experienced Red Hat users and systems admins who
won't have anything to d
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