Re: [SLUG] Re: SLUG on gmane.org

On Wed, May 31, 2006 at 03:03:34PM +1000, Jamie Wilkinson wrote: [...] > > > >I agree with that. It obfuscates the email address when it displays the > >actual post, but the email address is in clear, and hence harvestable, > >when you look at the search lists. > > Which definition of munged ar

Re: [SLUG] SLUG on gmane.org

SLUG feeding spam to the world wrote: > The issue is the spreading around of valid email addresses, > particularly when this has been done so surreptitiously[1]. You are assuming that this was an active decision to not tell people. I think you are wrong. It may have happened without the knowledg

Re: [SLUG] Re: SLUG on gmane.org

This one time, at band camp, Howard Lowndes wrote: > > >SLUG feeding spam to the world wrote: >>Jamie Wilkinson wrote: >> >> 1995 in fact. >> >> >>On gmane.org? >>I'll assume that this is a brain fart. Yeah, the post I saw was probably due to a broken mailer, as it's replying to a post from 20

Re: [SLUG] Re: SLUG on gmane.org

SLUG feeding spam to the world wrote: Jamie Wilkinson wrote: 1995 in fact. On gmane.org? I'll assume that this is a brain fart. The email addresses that are published on gmane.org are munged. You might like to look again. I can clearly see everyone's emails. I agree with that. I

Re: [SLUG] SLUG on gmane.org

Andrew Bennetts wrote: > As points out, you can set headers if you wish > to > declare that your messages should not be archived. The issue is not whether to archive or not archive. I agree that we want to retain the collective wisdom/brain-farts that these posts

Re: [SLUG] Re: SLUG on gmane.org

This one time, at band camp, SLUG feeding spam to the world wrote: >Andrew Cowie wrote: >> On Wed, 2006-05-31 at 12:09 +1000, Terry Collins wrote: > >> As Jamie and Mary pointed out, SLUG has been a publicly archived >> community since the mid 90s. Get over it. > >Except that this information was

Re: [SLUG] Re: SLUG on gmane.org

Jamie Wilkinson wrote: >> >> 1995 in fact. On gmane.org? I'll assume that this is a brain fart. >> The email addresses that are published on gmane.org are munged. You might like to look again. I can clearly see everyone's emails. The email >> addresses published on google groups are m

Re: [SLUG] Re: SLUG on gmane.org

Andrew Cowie wrote: > On Wed, 2006-05-31 at 12:09 +1000, Terry Collins wrote: > As Jamie and Mary pointed out, SLUG has been a publicly archived > community since the mid 90s. Get over it. Except that this information was hidden away and not publically stated. > > I for one am glad that the co

Re: [SLUG] Wifi hotspots

Hi Joseph, I can share my Telstra hotspot experience (from the inside and outside, I'm ex-Telstra).The Telstra wifi hotspots have doco and locations here: http://www.telstra.com.au/wirelesshotspots/access.htm. For more info about people's experience, check the whirlpool site here http://forum

Re: [SLUG] Re: SLUG on gmane.org

On Wed, 2006-05-31 at 12:09 +1000, Terry Collins wrote: > [ more blather ] Trolldom must be like a disease. Perfectly reasonable rational people suddenly get infected and then loose their minds and go on tilt ranting about something. As Jamie and Mary pointed out, SLUG has been a publicly archiv

[SLUG] Wifi hotspots

Hi Slugs, Does anyone know about how wifi hotspots at internet cafes and restaurants operate and what I need installed on my computer in order to access the wifi hotspots. Are the hotspots encrypted? Do they use a VPN tunnel? Do they block ports? Do you get a non rfc-1918 address? So far I hav

Re: [SLUG] SLUG on gmane.org

On Wed, May 31, 2006 at 01:02:51AM +1000, Terry Collins wrote: > Mary Gardiner wrote: > > Just for interests' sake, SLUG is also available via NNTP (Usenet news) on > >gmane.org for both posting and reading. > > Just what I really want. Another source of email addresses for spammers > to pillage.

[SLUG] Re: 331 sometime

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Re: [SLUG] Re: SLUG on gmane.org

This one time, at band camp, SLUG feeding spam to the world wrote: >Mary Gardiner wrote: >> On 2006-05-30, Terry Collins wrote: >> >>>Who was responsible for this bright idea? >>>If you are goingto start passing out the slug list in bulk to spammers, >>>I would like all address at woa-com-au pulle

Re: [SLUG] SLUG on gmane.org

Howard Lowndes wrote: > I am strongly in favour of all mailing lists such as SLUG being > subscriber only, and definitely not being made available to (wo)man+dog. Yep, after this, I've changed my belief. The SYDNEY in SLUG is what matters to me. If I want to support the rest of the world, there a

Re: [SLUG] Re: SLUG on gmane.org

Malcolm V wrote: > Letting the negative elements of any society dictate ones actions is never a > good idea. Yer, right, keep waffling and ignore the essential word here. Umm TRUST. It might be kinda old fashion as the ethics of gordon gecko make a re-run, but at no stage did I give SLUG permis

Re: [SLUG] Weird IPv6 message

On Wed, May 31, 2006 at 10:23:20AM +1000, Peter Chubb wrote: I'm seeing lots of rt6_redirect: source isn't a valid nexthop for redirect target messages in my logs. As far as I can tell from the other machines on my network, noone is using the machine that's logging as a router; it's not ru

Re: [SLUG] `new' effort at spam fighting?

Peter Chubb wrote: > I've finally got through... there are two bits. For outlook users > (none of us, probably) there's a single `button' you can download > after you register (you register to get a key, by thelook of it), that > deletes the spam, and forwards it with headers. Am I the only one

Re: [SLUG] `new' effort at spam fighting?

On 2006.05.31 11:01 Peter Chubb wrote: I've finally got through... there are two bits. For outlook users (none of us, probably) there's a single `button' you can download after you register (you register to get a key, by thelook of it), that deletes the spam, and forwards it with headers. For t

[SLUG] Re: SLUG on gmane.org

On 2006-05-31, "SLUG feeding spam to the world" wrote: > How long have you been using it? About a year, the period of time that I've been set "mail delivery off" on the SLUG list. I've known about it for much longer, given the existence of: http://lists.slug.org.au/archives/slug/2002/09/msg00830.

Re: [SLUG] Re: SLUG on gmane.org

This one time, at band camp, Malcolm V wrote: >On Wednesday 31 May 2006 10:42, Terryfied of spam ;) allegedly wrote: >> I can see that it contains stuff back to 2002, but I have been totally >> unaware of it until you posted it. > >Um, some people seem to be over-reacting a little, but then spam se

Re: [SLUG] Re: SLUG on gmane.org

On Wednesday 31 May 2006 10:42, Terryfied of spam ;) allegedly wrote: > I can see that it contains stuff back to 2002, but I have been totally > unaware of it until you posted it. Um, some people seem to be over-reacting a little, but then spam seems to cause that. Spidering is no longer the cutt

Re: [SLUG] `new' effort at spam fighting?

> "SLUG" == SLUG feeding spam to the world <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: SLUG> Peter Chubb wrote: >> It looks as thought the ACMA has finally got some teeth and is >> doing something about spam ... but it also looks as if their >> website is SLUG> Yer, website! That was when I decided that the

Re: [SLUG] Fwd: Club history

Hi all Well I wasn't around in 94 but last night Jill and I looked through our diaries and we attended SLUG in 1997. I had some mail from 1997 so I grepped that and the list is below. This is just the email I collected that was interesting to me at the time so it will leave off folks that made

Re: [SLUG] `new' effort at spam fighting?

Peter Chubb wrote: "Erik" == Erik de Castro Lopo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Erik> Peter Chubb wrote: It looks as thought the ACMA has finally got some teeth and is doing something about spam ... Erik> I wonder what they can do to stop the chinese, japanese, Erik> korean, taiwanese and ru

Re: [SLUG] `new' effort at spam fighting?

> "Erik" == Erik de Castro Lopo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Erik> Peter Chubb wrote: >> It looks as thought the ACMA has finally got some teeth and is >> doing something about spam ... Erik> I wonder what they can do to stop the chinese, japanese, Erik> korean, taiwanese and russian spam tha

Re: [SLUG] `new' effort at spam fighting?

Peter Chubb wrote: > It looks as thought the ACMA has finally got some teeth and is doing > something about spam ... but it also looks as if their website is Yer, website! That was when I decided that they were not serious about doing anything about spam. Now, if they had setup a Spamcop type ser

Re: [SLUG] `new' effort at spam fighting?

Peter Chubb wrote: > > It looks as thought the ACMA has finally got some teeth and is doing > something about spam ... I wonder what they can do to stop the chinese, japanese, korean, taiwanese and russian spam that i seem to get by the bucket load. Erik -- +--

Re: [SLUG] Re: SLUG on gmane.org

Mary Gardiner wrote: > On 2006-05-30, Terry Collins wrote: > >>Who was responsible for this bright idea? >>If you are goingto start passing out the slug list in bulk to spammers, >>I would like all address at woa-com-au pulled, please. > > > I'm not sure who's reponsible, the gmane.org mirror da

Re: [SLUG] slmodemd

Many thanks. The "owner" problem was what was causing me grief in the wifi drivers and in asterisk and I fixed them by lying about the kernel version in the code. This patch works for slamr - great. I may be off OS shortly and I will probably have to survive on a dial up connection, so I de

[SLUG] Weird IPv6 message

I'm seeing lots of rt6_redirect: source isn't a valid nexthop for redirect target messages in my logs. As far as I can tell from the other machines on my network, noone is using the machine that's logging as a router; it's not running radvd; so something weird is happening. Can anyone hit

[SLUG] `new' effort at spam fighting?

It looks as thought the ACMA has finally got some teeth and is doing something about spam ... but it also looks as if their website is woefully underpowered to cope with the demand (I've been watching Firefox's little progress indicator for 15 minutes now on the signup/submit spam page) See http:

Re: [SLUG] SLUG on gmane.org

Martin Visser wrote: > (Anybody get more than 50 spams to a single email address on average?) I hve one address <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> that I have had for about 8 years and used to post to mailing lists, usenet and register a domain name gets about 20 spams an hour 24/7. I use it as a spam trap. Er

[SLUG] Re: SLUG on gmane.org

On 2006-05-30, Terry Collins wrote: > Who was responsible for this bright idea? > If you are goingto start passing out the slug list in bulk to spammers, > I would like all address at woa-com-au pulled, please. I'm not sure who's reponsible, the gmane.org mirror dates back several years at least.

Re: [SLUG] slmodemd

Howard Lowndes wrote: Keith Hopkins wrote: Howard Lowndes wrote: I'm trying to get slmodemd running on a Toshiba lappy. It used to work under the 2.6.15 kernel and compiles under 2.6.16 (FC5 build 2111), but won't start because the slamr module won't load: # modprobe slamr FATAL: Error inser

Re: [SLUG] SLUG on gmane.org

I am not an expert on statistics, but my feeling is that once your email has already made it to one one of the spammers specials - "DVD containing one billon emails for $100" - then having your email (even if it is obfuscated) on more public mail/nntp/whatever archives isn't really going to make

Re: [SLUG] SLUG on gmane.org

I am strongly in favour of all mailing lists such as SLUG being subscriber only, and definitely not being made available to (wo)man+dog. Terry Collins wrote: Mary Gardiner wrote: Just for interests' sake, SLUG is also available via NNTP (Usenet news) on gmane.org for both posting and reading.

Re: [SLUG] slmodemd

Keith Hopkins wrote: Howard Lowndes wrote: I'm trying to get slmodemd running on a Toshiba lappy. It used to work under the 2.6.15 kernel and compiles under 2.6.16 (FC5 build 2111), but won't start because the slamr module won't load: # modprobe slamr FATAL: Error inserting slamr (/lib/modul

[SLUG] Re: 492 feis

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Re: [SLUG] SLUG on gmane.org

Mary Gardiner wrote: > Just for interests' sake, SLUG is also available via NNTP (Usenet news) on >gmane.org for both posting and reading. Just what I really want. Another source of email addresses for spammers to pillage. Who was responsible for this bright idea? If you are goingto start passing

Re: [SLUG] Re: Wine and IE Problems

On 5/30/06, Russell Davie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tue, 30 May 2006 22:13:20 +1000 Charles Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Crossover office does install IE6. I just had a peek, will give it a try to > see how it goes. CX 5 ran shockwave with firefox and opera in this little linux box no

RE: [SLUG] Re: [activities] fwd: Free BBQ + Microsoft Seminar onVisual Studio 2005 & SQLServer 2005

> Off the top of my head I'd suggest: > > - myself (libsndfile, libsamplerate) > - Conrad Parker (sweep) > - Silvia Pfieffer (annodex) > - Rob Collins (Squid / Bzr) > - Peter Miller (Aegis/srec etc) > - Martin Pool (Bzr) > - Benno and other Nicta people (L4 etc) >

Re: [SLUG] Re: Wine and IE Problems

On Tue, 30 May 2006 22:13:20 +1000 Charles Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On 30/5/06 10:01 PM, "Russell Davie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Tue, 30 May 2006 20:58:03 +1000 > > "Michael Kedzierski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> On 5/30/06, Ben Buxton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [SLUG] Re: Wine and IE Problems

On 30/5/06 10:01 PM, "Russell Davie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 30 May 2006 20:58:03 +1000 > "Michael Kedzierski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On 5/30/06, Ben Buxton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Also look at winetools, a great little gui for semi-oneclick >>> installation of lot

Re: [SLUG] Re: Wine and IE Problems

On Tue, 30 May 2006 20:58:03 +1000 "Michael Kedzierski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 5/30/06, Ben Buxton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Also look at winetools, a great little gui for semi-oneclick > > installation of lots of different software under wine (including ie6). > > I was also going t

Re: [SLUG] slmodemd

Howard Lowndes wrote: > I'm trying to get slmodemd running on a Toshiba lappy. > > It used to work under the 2.6.15 kernel and compiles under 2.6.16 (FC5 > build 2111), but won't start because the slamr module won't load: > > # modprobe slamr > FATAL: Error inserting slamr > (/lib/modules/2.6.16-

Re: [SLUG] Re: Wine and IE Problems

On 5/30/06, Ben Buxton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Also look at winetools, a great little gui for semi-oneclick installation of lots of different software under wine (including ie6). I was also going to mention Winetools as I do use it, however installing IE6 didn't work for me under the latest

[SLUG] Re: Wine and IE Problems

Michael Kedzierski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered the following thing: > I have IE 6, 5.5 and 5.01 all installed in my homedir their own > isolated Wine-roots. I used the ies4linux script which set them all up > automatically without me having to do much at all. > > You can get the script at http://w

Re: [SLUG] Wine and IE Problems

I have IE 6, 5.5 and 5.01 all installed in my homedir their own isolated Wine-roots. I used the ies4linux script which set them all up automatically without me having to do much at all. You can get the script at http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/index-en.html It's great having IE running under

Re: [SLUG] Wine and IE Problems

On Tue, 30 May 2006 20:03:23 +1000 Charles Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On 30/5/06 7:39 PM, "Mark Sargent" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi All, > > > > as much as hate doing it, I need IE under Wine. I get the following when I > > try > > to run ie6setup.exe, > > > > ~]$ win

Re: [SLUG] Wine and IE Problems

Title: Re: [SLUG] Wine and IE Problems On 30/5/06 7:39 PM, "Mark Sargent" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi All, as much as hate doing it, I need IE under Wine. I get the following when I try to run ie6setup.exe, ~]$ wine /home/ozboy/dlds/ie/ie6setup.exe wine: creating configuration directory

[SLUG] Wine and IE Problems

Hi All,as much as hate doing it, I need IE under Wine. I get the following when I try to run ie6setup.exe,~]$ wine /home/ozboy/dlds/ie/ie6setup.exewine: creating configuration directory '/home/ozboy/.wine'... wine: '/home/ozboy/.wine' created successfully.fixme:advapi:CheckTokenMembership ((nil) 0x

Re: Working PCI wireless [Was: [SLUG] PCI Wireless cards]

> On 5/30/06, Jamie Wilkinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This one time, at band camp, Lindsay Holmwood wrote: > > >Oh, that's neat. IIRC, the driver supports master mode. Ralink did > > > a great job in releasing their drivers under the GPL.[1] > > > > Cool! > > > > Can anyone recommend a rt250

Re: [SLUG] How to find out what ports I can use for an apache service.

Hi all James Purser wrote: I know this isn't really a tech answer to the question (and not knowing what UTS IT is like) have you considered asking the network guys what is and isn't blocked? Well it ain't UTS related work so i wasn't going to use their time for that question. It's a full open-s