> Hi,
>
> On 09/08/2011 10:36, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote:
> > [...]
> > commit 899b847b17bae46556fcbe010e9bba355cd0c5f7
> > Author: Werner Almesberger
> > Date: Sat Jan 31 17:23:30 2009 +
> >
> > [...]
> > Unlike u-boot, qi didn't initialize the GPIOs. With thi
> Im using Debian/windowmaker with fso4 packages. I start trayer and most
> applications, like xchat, vagalume register an icon on it, but zhone
> doesn't. Is there any way to register zhone with trayer or is a
> code-related issue?
AFAIK trayer is not a task bar (that shows icons for all running
> I have heard that a newer release/snapshot of python-evas will work with
> the new cython. The source is in
> http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/browser/trunk/BINDINGS/python/python-evas
> and the commit commends indicate that it works better with cython now.
> The setup.py says that the latest ver
> I have heard that a newer release/snapshot of python-evas will work with
> the new cython. The source is in
> http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/browser/trunk/BINDINGS/python/python-eva
>s and the commit commends indicate that it works better with cython now.
> The setup.py says that the latest vers
> On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 7:51 PM, Nikita V. Youshchenko
wrote:
> > > I have heard that a newer release/snapshot of python-evas will work
> > > with the new cython. The source is in
> > > http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/browser/trunk/BINDINGS/python/python
>
> Well, since we don’t have Illume yet, we have to work our way around.
>
> You should be running openmoko-panel-plugin which gives you some icons
> at the top. You can click on the keyboard icon (or use the AUX key) to
> get an on screen keyboard. With Alt-Ctrl-X you start an xterm, which is
> all
> > Still could not enlarge matchbox-keyboard font - looks like it is not
> > possible without altering the code.
>
> You might also be interested in OE's patches to the
> matchbox-keyboard. They implement an ability to switch layouts without
> restarting the keyboard (an additional button is added
> the pkg-e team is currently low on man-power (only Albin Tonnerre seems
> to do some work currently). I have heard that he is mostly ready with
> packages for a new e17, including Illume. Once this is done, he want’s
> to tackle to libries (libetk and libelementary, if I’m not mistaken)
> that ar
> The GetPower method on FSO framework was removed sometime ago. All the
> programs was using this method need to be modifed (o-p-p, sephora, etc.)
> to use the new methods.
I believe this should be handled somehow at packaging level - to avoid
installation of newer framework when installed packa
> > > The GetPower method on FSO framework was removed sometime ago. All
> > > the programs was using this method need to be modifed (o-p-p,
> > > sephora, etc.) to use the new methods.
> >
> > I believe this should be handled somehow at packaging level - to avoid
> > installation of newer framewor
> Also, for fso-frameworkd (where only one version can run at a time),
> different packages names such as for shared libraries are not the right
> thing to do – the reason why you prefer that for libraries over strict
> dependencies is that you _want_ to install two different versions at a
> time.
> I think that who maintain programs that depends upon fso-frameworkd must
> to keep their program up to date whit currently fso-frameworkd.
Sure.
However, until the depenedant programs are not upgeaded, packaging system
must prevent dependency itself from being upgraded on user's system. That
Hi
I'm having difficulties with setting up qemubuilder (which I want to use to
build debs for freerunner in a clean environment).
I've tried to follow instructions from http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnFreeRunner
But --create failed: recommended kernel from
http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/s
> try the kernel from http://people.debian.org/~aurel32/qemu/armel/
Tanks, this is exactly what I was looking for.
Fetching both kernel and initrd from there works.
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> > try the kernel from http://people.debian.org/~aurel32/qemu/armel/
>
> Tanks, this is exactly what I was looking for.
> Fetching both kernel and initrd from there works.
Still fighting with it...
Wrote some story at
http://yoush.homelinux.org:8079/tech/setting-up-armel-qemubuilder
Current pr
Hi
Could please someone who has with upload permission to pkg-fso repository,
upload there python-evas with _increased_version_string_, so it would not
be replaced with non-working version currently in Debian?
Looks like new people are still facing the problem on new installs [1], and
proper f
> i'd say: not going to happen.
> - my package is not an official one
> - cython is at 0.10 already
> - the issue itself is not fixed
> - building a recent python-evas against an old cython is nothing but a
> hack/workaround
It may make a month or so until updated eina and evas will pass NEW.
I t
> > It may make a month or so until updated eina and evas will pass NEW.
> >
> > I think it is better to have your package at pkg-fso than have broken
> > system during all that time.
>
> There is another possibility: Get a new python-evas package in shape and
> put it in NEW. Until it is through t
> All packages that I've built for sponsoring pkg-e uploads, are in my
> local repo at
>
> deb http://yoush.homelinux.org:8079.denian not-yet-in-debian main
deb http://yoush.homelinux.org:8079/debian not-yet-in-debian main
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> > All packages that I've built for sponsoring pkg-e uploads, are in my
> > local repo at
> >
> > deb http://yoush.homelinux.org:8079.denian not-yet-in-debian main
>
> deb http://yoush.homelinux.org:8079/debian not-yet-in-debian main
e17 now is also there.
Brave people may try to build those on
Hi
At last I've found how to make qemubuilder working - it successfully builds
binary-armel packages for me.
I've put working instructions in my blog at
http://yoush.homelinux.org:8079/tech/setting-up-armel-qemubuilder
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I've built library and e17 packages for armel architecture, and put those
to
deb http://yoush.homelinux.org:8079/debian freerunner main
E17 package contains illume module.
These are exactly the same packages as are currently uploaded to debian
experimental, and are waiting in NEW. I've jus
Hi
I've updated python-evas package, based on fresh svn snapshot, and using
Albin's e libraries packages.
This is quick-and-dirty yet, not ready for upload info Debian.
Any ideas how to handle that next? I don't really want to maintain it in
the long term ...
I've put a git repo web intefrace
> Hi
>
> I've updated python-evas package, based on fresh svn snapshot, and using
> Albin's e libraries packages.
>
> This is quick-and-dirty yet, not ready for upload info Debian.
> Any ideas how to handle that next? I don't really want to maintain it in
> the long term ...
>
> I've put a git repo
Hi
I've made several updated in my freerunner package repository.
- built newer version of Albin's pkg-e packages, including e17 with illume
- resynced python-evas, python-ecore, python-edje, python-edbus
- (new) added zhone
Now all packages are consistent at dependency level, and could be
in
> Do you want to join the pkg-fso team on alioth, so you can work directly
> on our git repositories, and upload your packages? I’d be glad to
> welcome you on board.
Thanks, I think it is the right direction to go.
Do you have any clean policy, what should go to pkg-fso and what should
not?
>
Hi
Power button on my FR running Debian misbehaves.
Sometimes when I press it, FR suspends. Sometimes it does not. Sometimes it
shows a dialog (with "Suspend"/"Shutdown"/"Turn on/off something"
buttons - but taping on those buttons does nothing.
How to debug all that?
What exactly should happe
> > Power button on my FR running Debian misbehaves.
> >
> > Sometimes when I press it, FR suspends. Sometimes it does not.
> > Sometimes it shows a dialog (with "Suspend"/"Shutdown"/"Turn on/off
> > something" buttons - but taping on those buttons does nothing.
> >
> > How to debug all that?
> > W
> > Xorg needs access to the display hardware (mmap device memory) so it
> > needs to be root. This is just the way it is. :)
>
> on all my desktops suid for /usr/bin/Xorg is unnecessary.
Probably because X server is started by *dm as root anyway?
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Usually, when freerunner is changing, orange led at power button lights. As
far as I understand, this is controlled by frameworkd; it is likely
controlled by these lines in /etc/freesmartphone/oevents/rules.yaml:
while: PowerStatus()
filters: HasAttr(status, "charging")
actions: S
> Hi
>
> I've made several updated in my freerunner package repository.
>
> - built newer version of Albin's pkg-e packages, including e17 with
> illume
>
> - resynced python-evas, python-ecore, python-edje, python-edbus
>
> - (new) added zhone
Exactly same packages have been uploaded to pkg-fso r
> e.waelde wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I have updated my freerunner to the latest packages (made by Nikita).
> > This breaks zhone for me:
> >
> > neo:~# export $DISPLAY=:0.0
> > neo:~# zhone
> > GUI init
> > x11-16 is not supported, fallback to x11
> > [evas module] error loading the module
> > /usr
> there are no keyboard information files in illume's module
> directory, so there are no keyboards. I downloaded them from
> svn and put them there, now I get the keyboards.
Are keyboards in e17/illume svn?
If so, then maybe those should be included directly into e17 package
together with Illume
Hmm...
So it is not illume-specific, but actually a e17 issue?
Forwarding this to pkg-d-devel ...
> Hi,
>
> On my Neo, I started using Enlightenment (e17) instead of e16.
>
> e17 doesn't show the Debian menus but seems fine otherwise.
>
> After reading about the Debian Menu System (nice!) on
> /
Hmm...
So it is not illume-specific, but actually a e17 issue?
Forwarding this to pkg-d-devel ...
> Hi,
>
> On my Neo, I started using Enlightenment (e17) instead of e16.
>
> e17 doesn't show the Debian menus but seems fine otherwise.
>
> After reading about the Debian Menu System (nice!) on
> /
Hi
It would be very useful if zhone window will raise itself on incoming call.
Shouldn't that be very easy to implement ?..
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> > It would be very useful if zhone window will raise itself on incoming
> > call.
> >
> > Shouldn't that be very easy to implement ?..
>
> it will depend on the window manager used, imho.
Don't think so.
Qt's raise() works with any window manager. I believe that it just maps to
XconfigureWindo
> First of all thanks to Nikita for packaging e17.
Packages have been created by Albin Tonnerre.
I've only built those for armel architecture.
> ESTART: 9.79912 [0.00177] - init properites
> ESTART: 9.80038 [0.00126] - test code
> ESTART: 9.80075 [0.00036] - load modules
> (no debugging symbols f
> > Since that snapshot has other issues as well (such as no illume
> > keyboards, no icons in illume launcher), the proper way is to package
> > a later one. Unfortunately, that will require some effort because of
> > constant changes of e library interfaces (so packages will have to be
> > rename
> > Disabling power button handling in o-p-p made situation better. When
> > I press power button, FR just suspends after 5 seconds or so. Good.
> >
> > However, that stopped working after several days of runtime. FR just
> > ignored power button presses. Restarting fso-frameworkd fixed that.
> >
>
> Dear readers,
>
> I was wondering if running as a normal user is going to be default in
> the future or not. Currently, I'm happy running as root, but the
> perfectionist in me tells me that this isn't right.
>
> Is "upstream", if there is something like that, going to start pushing
> for a secon
Is't it the time to switch Debian to 2.6.28-based andy-tracking kernel?
It should give better power management at least.
I see existing kernel package is not a proper debian package built from
debian source, it looks like a dpkg-deb -b hack instead.
It's unclear who and when will be able to inte
> - What are the long-term plans
Ideally we should have each and every existing openmoko app to be available
as a debian package :).
But with current nearly-zero manpower this is just a dream :).
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> Being told that I should not try to turn Zhone into an application
> launcher, I'm now left wondering the following:
Ideally, we should have all phone stacks available as deb(s).
Since this requires 100 times more manpower than we have, let's concentrate
on something smaller. I think that pac
> I was not able to get edj_cc on my desktop and
> therefore could not compile the new themes/zone.edj file.
What is your desktop?
On Debian, it should be in libedje-bin package.
That package could be installed on freerunner itself as well.
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> Joachim Breitner wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Am Dienstag, den 03.02.2009, 12:31 +0100 schrieb Fox Mulder:
> >> Since a few weeks when i update the packages zhone is hold back. The
> >> reason is a missing dependency for "libevas-0.9.9.050a-engines".
> >>
> >> Is this lib really missing in the debian r
> I'm having the issue reported at:
>
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=514021
>
> in which keypressess aren't being sent from the illume keyboard to
> applications. Does anyone know of a fix for this, or point me in the
> right direction (i.e. testing out newer e17 or something)
> On 2009.02.18.21.48, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote:
> | > I'm having the issue reported at:
> | >
> | > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=514021
> | >
> | > in which keypressess aren't being sent from the illume keyboard to
> | >
> >> Ok cool. Do you do this by building the whole thing on your phone? I
> >> tried that once but then got tired of waiting! I'd try again though
> >> if you could provide instructions (that is, I'd be happy to donate my
> >> night-time openmoko cpu cycles if that helps).
> >
> > I'm using qemu-pb
Hi
On most (all?) SHR snapshot, clock on illume's top panel is digital.
However, on Debian/Illume, clock is analog, and too small to be usable.
Any hints how to get digital clock on debian/illume?
Thanks.
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> > On most (all?) SHR snapshot, clock on illume's top panel is digital.
> >
> > However, on Debian/Illume, clock is analog, and too small to be
> > usable.
> >
> > Any hints how to get digital clock on debian/illume?
> >
> > Thanks.
>
> Use the tclock module. It's not packaged, but you can find it
> > > > > Any hints how to get digital clock on debian/illume?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks.
> > > >
> > > > Use the tclock module. It's not packaged, but you can find it at
> > > > svn
> > > > http://svn.enlightenment.org/svn/e/trunk/E-MODULES-EXTRA/tclock
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Is tcl
Hi
Illume has a bad habit to automatically hide keyboard when window changes
or new window appears (and not show it back when window is changed back).
Is it possible to stop that?
I'd like to make it show/hide keyboard only when I explicitly ask it to...
Nikita
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> which boot manager and what medium do you boot from?
> in case of u-boot, the current kernel has to be flashed to the matching
> flash partition. take the uimage from he kernel package and dfu-util it.
U-boot is very flexible, and may boot from almost anywhere.
Including a file on ext2 filesyst
> nikita pointed out that u-boot is csapable to boot kernels from
> elsewhere, but iirc the only location used on the fr has been mtd3, at
> least with the commonly used u-boot env.
No.
I don't remember how exactly I configured bootloader after installing
Debian - it was half-a-year-ago - but I d
> I think we need to live with this situation every time new EFL snapshots
> are packaged, i.e. Zhone will be broken every once in a while.
Thire is a workaround I believe.
Entire stack with new ABI should be first uploaded to experimental, so
things stay installable from unstable while things a
> > Effectively lshal reports:
> >
> > udi = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/computer_logicaldev_input'
> > button.has_state = false (bool)
> > button.type = 'power' (string)
> > info.addons.singleton = {'hald-addon-input'} (string list)
> > info.capabilities = {'input', 'button'} (string l
> ...
> O: Setting up libusb-0.1-4 (2:0.1.12-13) ...
> P: Configuring package libusb-0.1-4
> O: dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of readline-common:
> O: readline-common depends on dpkg (>= 1.15.4) | install-info; however:
> O: Version of dpkg on system is 1.15.3.1+b3.
> O: Pack
> ophonekitd: symbol lookup error: ophonekitd: undefined symbol:
> ogsmd_sim_get_sim_ready
This is a binary incompatibility issue.
Library package runs against does not provide symbol that library package
was built against provided.
Either package was built incorrectly (btw was it built in a cl
> Hi,
>
> Am Dienstag, den 15.09.2009, 21:47 +0200 schrieb Sebastian Reichel:
> > * package version of libframeworkd-glib0
>
> indeed, I had a version 0.1-20081223-1 from my tries back then
> installed. (Wow, almost a year now...)
Why did dependences allow installation with obsolete libframewo
>
> My problem now is no GSM - which was also the case after my previous
> install - with the symptoms being that
> - Zhone briefly says "Usage: Requested resource GSM with error" (or a
> permutation of those words)
> - Zhone's phone, messages and contacts buttons stay greyed out.
Could you please
> > Could you please check if frameworkd is running at this point?
> > This behaviour looks like a frameworkd crash.
>
> Yes, frameworkd is running:
>
> debian-gta02:~# ps waux | grep frame
> root 966 3.6 15.6 36956 18936 ?S17:50 0:36
> /usr/bin/python /usr/bin/frameworkd
> ro
> 2009/10/14 Nikita V. Youshchenko :
> > I did not notice 'usage' string in error message in your original
> > post.
>
> I'm not sure what you mean here. I think I noted in my original post
> that fso-usaged was not installed, and wondered whether th
Hi
I'm getting this in frameworkd stdout:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/framework/patterns/tasklet.py", line
178, in send
value = self.generator.send(value)
File
"/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/framework/subsystems/opimd/pimb_sim_messages_fso.py",
> The good thing is, that
> I now own my own 1.2Ghz armel build system [1], so I don't have
> to use the slow qemubuilder :)
Cool.
Maybe use that to set up some sort of automatic FSO deb package updates?
I think that having FSO packages built always from the latest upstream git
revision is tod
> I will enable default 'log to file' for frameworkd in the next config
> package ;)
Not sure this is wise.
Such a file will become large, especially on long runs (and phone should
run long without reboots, shouldn't it :)?
I think debug settings should be enabled for debugging only.
Or maybe
> > as for the shr-apps and their small windows -- it might be a solution
> > to use e17/illume as wm.
>
> That seems a pity to me. I am enjoying running a real wm (lxde/openbox)
> and using all my favourite debian apps on my fr and wouldn't want to
> throw that all away just so that I can read my
> Starting playback...
> [AO_ALSA] Write error: Broken pipe ??,?%
> [AO_ALSA] Trying to reset soundcard.
> [AO_ALSA] Write error: Broken pipe 75.3%
> [AO_ALSA] Trying to reset soundcard.
> [AO_ALSA] Write error: Broken pipe 77.6%
> [AO_ALSA] Trying to reset soundcard.
> [AO_ALSA] Write error: Broke
> > This is caused by mplayer not keeping with audio decoding in time.
> >
> > 1. Make mplayer to use integer decoder, not floating point one.
> > 2. Make mplayer to output on lower bitrate.
> >
> > For mp3, try '-ac ffmp3 -af resample=22050'
> >
> thank you!, now all work perfectly!!
> Why, withou
> Hi,
>
> I installed matchbox window manager with apt-get install matchbox.
> How can I get the icon on the screen?
matchbox-desktop
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> I have been trying to install Debian on a Neo 1973, and when the
> installer uses tar with -z, it fails and shows: tar: invalid option --z
To fix the issue, tar invocation should be replaced with a variant of
gzip -cd | tar -xf -
However, the script you used is likely be long outdated, and it
> > as you might have seen more and more FSO 2.0 subsystems are ready for
> > prime time, so we have to think about how configuration works for FSO
> > 2.0. Until now I used the same method as in FSO 1.0, which is having
> > it lumped all together in one config file. For FSO 2.0 I'm leaning
> > tow
>
> On a related note... my super-secret plan is to get rid of sysvinit and
> make a highly optimized init process that does just enough to get dbus
> and (optionally) X up. That may as well be incorporated into
> fso-monitord, we'll see...
How that relates with (1) upstart, (2) whatever moblin us
> > > On a related note... my super-secret plan is to get rid of sysvinit
> > > and make a highly optimized init process that does just enough to
> > > get dbus and (optionally) X up. That may as well be incorporated
> > > into fso-monitord, we'll see...
> >
> > How that relates with (1) upstart, (
> tried changing to fso-usaged by putting something like:
> > [ousaged]
> > disable = 1
>
> into /etc/frameworkd.conf but then things get even worse. The framework
>
> log file shows lines like this:
> > 2009.11.29 11:22:12.536 frameworkd.resource WARNING Can't register
> > resource GSM since ou
> Hi,
>
> I have installed bluez-alsa with apt-get install bluez-alsa on my
> freerunner.
>
> cat .asoundrc
> pcm.bluetooth {
>type bluetooth
>device 00:1A:7D:02:AB:2F
>
> ...
>
> The same headset works fine on my computer with debian sid.. why?
Have you paired headset with freerunner?
_
> Apart from that I can't scp to the Debian servers (this is the reason
> there are still no new SHR packages). Maybe more users are affected
> by this - I didn't find enough time to debug/research it so far.
Just tested - my ssh connection to alioth.debian.org works perfectly ok.
Maybe some tempo
> On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 11:09:33AM +0100, Johannes Schauer wrote:
> > Hi!
> >
> > > I recently bought myself an Nokia N900. I checked out what would be
> > > needed to run FSO on it. You can find the details in [1]. Apart from
> > > that I started to restructure the isimodem driver from ofono int
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