RE: [RCSE] Subject: RC and airports

2005-10-11 Thread chris
Oh, yes, My favorite saying is from Einstein   There are two things that are infinite, the Universe and Human Stupidity.  I am unsure about the Universe.   C   Original Message Subject: Re: [RCSE] Subject: RC and airportsFrom: "Randy Bullard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: Tue, October 1

Re: [RCSE] Subject: RC and airports

2005-10-11 Thread Randy Bullard
I haven't seen foam wings collide with aircraft but I've seen them hit other vehicles and they don't seem to do noticeable damage. And how many of those vehicles were doing 120kts or more? Because of their construction and speed, planes are tremendously more vulnerable to strike damage than an

Re: [RCSE] Subject: RC and airports

2005-10-11 Thread GordySoar
It was just a piece of foam that brought down theSpace Shuttle.   Icarus was warned by his father, yet fell to the ground and was killed and didn't even get touched by foam!   Gordy

[RCSE] Subject: RC and airports...I'm heading out to find him in the morning!

2005-10-11 Thread GordySoar
Meanwhile, the list members who ARE in that area need to spread the word locally, in the hobby shops and clubs, to watch for this guy, find him, explain the danger to him, so this doesn't happen again   Hi guys, Sit tight, and never fear! I'll be heading out in the morning so the odds are I'

Re: [RCSE] Johny Berlin email address?

2005-10-11 Thread Ben Hocker
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[RCSE] Johny Berlin email address?

2005-10-11 Thread ownee77
I need Mr. Berlins e-mail address so I can order a JR frequency synthesizer module. Thanks, S. Gibson Houston, TX RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must

Re: [RCSE] Subject: RC and airports

2005-10-11 Thread MSu1049321
Saying a jet engine doesn't mind ingesting FOD shows a lack of understanding. FOD the size of a bird or plane usually *does* damage the engine, by breaking or weakening blades. The hot section of jet engines is armored inside the nacelle, (they weren't always, it took tragic deaths to bring t

Re: [RCSE] Subject: RC and airports

2005-10-11 Thread Ben Diss
I had a bird strike at 3,000 feet. Is that too low to the ground for your definition of safe operation? -Ben [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike I sent the remarks out to try and illustrate the over-reaction that we get when anyone mentions full-sized aircraft. I think I've succeeded. I don't

RE: [RCSE] Subject: RC and airports

2005-10-11 Thread Mark Miller
Remember, It was just a piece of foam that brought down the Space Shuttle. Mark __ Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page! http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "uns

RE: [RCSE] Subject: RC and airports

2005-10-11 Thread Chuck Anderson
At 04:26 PM 10/11/2005, you wrote: You have fallen into the trap, I believe, of moving from the specifcs of this incident to an irrellevant generalization. I haven't seen foam wings collide with aircraft but I've seen them hit other vehicles and they don't seem to do noticeable damage. They're

RE: [RCSE] Subject: RC and airports

2005-10-11 Thread martinusher
Mike I sent the remarks out to try and illustrate the over-reaction that we get when anyone mentions full-sized aircraft. I think I've succeeded. I don't condone flying models near full size planes or anything similar (road traffic, for example) and I don't think there's anyone else out the

[RCSE] ECHLGF 2005 reminder

2005-10-11 Thread Oleg Golovidov
Just reminding to those who may still be thinking about coming to our contest. Less than 2 weeks left before the contest! Next week I will start generating the flight matrix and will not be able to accept new registrations (unless the bribe is ridiculously large :-)). We will have a clinic/sem

RE: [RCSE] Subject: RC and airports

2005-10-11 Thread chris
Daryl,   I totally understand your position and the positions all have taken with regard to full size aircraft.  We all need to be more aware, and if possible, communicate these items to our club members and on, eventually getting to pilots out there who are not easily reached through standard meth

Re: [RCSE] Subject: RC and airports

2005-10-11 Thread Daryl Perkins
I'm sorry people. I didn't mean to stir up this much [EMAIL PROTECTED] When it happened, I really didn't think much of it. Just a flash of a toy airplane, "damn that was close...what the [EMAIL PROTECTED] is that doing there?" and I continued with my 25 degree bank base to final turn. Ya seeI

Re: [RCSE] Subject: RC and airports

2005-10-11 Thread tony estep
--- Doug McLaren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Though I do disagree with Martin on one thing -- I certainly do > believe that an R/C plane could seriously damage a full scale plane. A two-pound object hitting something at 100 mph? Sorta like having a king-size catsup bottle dropped on you from a 25

Re: [RCSE] Servo Frames

2005-10-11 Thread Ben Diss
I just got some from him a few weeks ago. Email Craig Greening (servoframes 'at' sbcglobal.net). walter W5SWA wrote: Does anyone know if the Servo Frames are still available? They were for mounting your wing servos and could be found at http://www.servoframes.com/. This URL no longer wor

[RCSE] Servo Frames

2005-10-11 Thread walter W5SWA
Does anyone know if the Servo Frames are still available? They were for mounting your wing servos and could be found at http://www.servoframes.com/. This URL no longer works. Is he still in business? Walt RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubsc

Re: [RCSE] Subject: RC and airports

2005-10-11 Thread Doug McLaren
On Tue, Oct 11, 2005 at 10:31:17AM -0700, Mike Smith wrote: | You are way out of line here. I know you don't represent the | sentiment and perception of the vast majority of the folks on this | list. It seems you aren't even a pilot since you didn't talk about | the airspace regs and minimum

[RCSE] Subject: RC and airports

2005-10-11 Thread George Voss
I'd like to chime in here. I hold a Single Engine pilot license, I've been flying RC for 37+ years and spent my 16+ years with the USAF and DOD as a Jet Engine Mechanic/Production Engineer on AWACS TF-33, F16C&D GE F110, B1 GE F101, and KC 135R GE F108 engines, along with J79, J57 and a few other

[RCSE] Edgar Vera

2005-10-11 Thread Darwin N. Barrie
Edgar,   Contact me back line.   Darwin N. Barrie Chandler AZ

Re: [RCSE] Subject: RC and airports

2005-10-11 Thread Mike Smith
Martin, You are way out of line here. I know you don't represent the sentiment and perception of the vast majority of the folks on this list. It seems you aren't even a pilot since you didn't talk about the airspace regs and minimum elevation above ground in congested areas. Noisy polluti

Re: [RCSE] Subject: RC and airports

2005-10-11 Thread Ben Diss
Investigative summary of the incident:  http://www.airforce.dnd.ca/dfs/pdf/REPORTS/FTI/CT155202.pdf "The mission was a navigation trip and part of a conversion syllabus designed to familiarize the Royal Air Force (RAF) student with the NFTC Hawk variant. With the area portion completed, the c

Re: [RCSE] Subject: RC and airports

2005-10-11 Thread Ben Diss
Martin-  Take a look at this video.  Maybe you'll appreciate the dangers. http://www.wimp.com/stray/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Martin,  I am surprised at your take on Daryl's positing. I can assure you that a collision between a model and man carrying air vehicle could have dir

Re: [RCSE] Subject: RC and airports

2005-10-11 Thread LJolly
Martin,  I am surprised at your take on Daryl's positing. I can assure you that a collision between a model and man carrying air vehicle could have dire consequences for both pilots.  RC flying exists only because our organization has succeeded in convincing the FAA that we are all reasonable