Re: [RCSE] Carbon-fiber reinforcement for Alcyone wing; vacuum bagging with a Foodsaver

2006-05-20 Thread Jeff Steifel
Jon Stone wrote: I am about to apply skins to my Alcyone 3M, and I want to reinforce the wings with carbon fiber. What's better: carbon tow or carbon mat? you want tow, not carbon mat. You want all the fibers spanwise oriented (same direction as the spar) NO!.. you want to cap the

Re: [RCSE] Carbon-fiber reinforcement for Alcyone wing; vacuum bagging with a Foodsaver

2006-05-20 Thread Jon Stone
Jeff, Depends if the author desires strengthening the spar for launch, or making the wing torsionally stiff.He didn't say. Either way, I'd avoid the carbon mat, as it typically soaks up a lot of epoxy. Actually on the 45 it prevents torsion roll of the wing on launch, but you won't

Re: [RCSE] Carbon-fiber reinforcement for Alcyone wing; vacuum bagging with a Foodsaver

2006-05-20 Thread Martin Usher
The pre-sheeted Alcyone has tow strips about a quarter inch wide that run out behind the spar -- they're perfectly placed to cut into them when you cut pockets for servos (rather than relying on the original cable and torque rod setup). The wing should be strong enough for any conceivable

Re: [RCSE] Carbon-fiber reinforcement for Alcyone wing; vacuum bagging with a Foodsaver

2006-05-20 Thread Jeff Steifel
You wouldn't put it on the bias on the spar, you would use prepreg on the spar. The bias is for the wing. Jon Stone wrote: Jeff, Depends if the author desires strengthening the spar for launch, or making the wing torsionally stiff.He didn't say. Either way, I'd avoid the carbon mat,

Re: [RCSE] Carbon-fiber reinforcement for Alcyone wing; vacuum bagging with a Foodsaver

2006-05-19 Thread Jon Stone
I am about to apply skins to my Alcyone 3M, and I want to reinforce the wings with carbon fiber. What's better: carbon tow or carbon mat? you want tow, not carbon mat. You want all the fibers spanwise oriented (same direction as the spar) Will the thickness of the carbon fiber be a

RE: [RCSE] Carbon-fiber reinforcement for Alcyone wing; vacuum bagging with a Foodsaver

2006-05-19 Thread George Voss
A food saver was used in an article on Ezone. Do a search for Foodsaver or vacuum bagging and you should find it. gv -Original Message- From: Scott and Jennifer Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 8:50 PM To: soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] Carbon-fiber

Re: [RCSE] Carbon Fiber

2006-04-13 Thread matt
CST The Composite Store Has limited quantities of unidirectional Carbon Cloth and Tow in stock. 3.0 0z Tacky Thread unicarbon and 7.4 0z uni-webed carbon. And some carbon tow. We also have 1k carbon cloth available. The web site is www.cstsales.com or you can call 800-338-1278 between 7:30

Re: [RCSE] Carbon Fiber

2006-04-11 Thread Dan
Try: http://www.cstsales.com/DanVeronica Merryfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need to get some CF cloth and tow. Here in Canada (Western BC), all the stockest are telling me that both the Canadian and US departments of defence are buying up everything hence they have no stock.

Re: [RCSE] Carbon Fiber

2006-04-11 Thread Jimmy Prouty
Veronica, Yep, it's true. Carb.com is telling me they won't have any in stock until September at the earliest. Wick's Aircraft Supply or Aircraft Spruce may also be a good source if they still have any. Happy flying, Jimmy www.jtmodels.com At 04:53 PM 4/11/2006, you wrote: I need to get

RE: [RCSE] Carbon Fiber

2006-04-11 Thread Winch
Title: Airtronics Digitals available You might try Coast Fibre-Tec on Boundary Road in Burnaby (604-294-8116). They normally carry uni-carbon (various widths) and have had some 5-6 oz cloth in the past. Phil in Vancouver -Original Message-From: Veronica Merryfield

RE: [RCSE] Carbon fiber reinforced spars

2005-01-24 Thread Matt Gewain
The easiest type of carbon to use is the Unidirectional Carbon Laminate strips the same width as the wooden spars in the wing. Typically they are only needed in the center part of the wing. Just glue them on the top and bottom (outer surfaces) of the wooden spars. I recommend thick flexible type

Re: [RCSE] Carbon fiber reinforced spars

2005-01-24 Thread Bill Conkling
You might look into the premade material. from either of your sources. I have some .007 material that is 1/4 wide and plan to bond this with WEST systems to the spar caps. It is avail in many widths and several thicknesses, even tapered I believe. .bcAG4YQ Williamsburg, VA On

RE: [RCSE] Carbon fiber reinforced spars

2005-01-24 Thread Douglas, Brent
There's another carbon product you might consider - Jim Marske* sells Graphlite, a very high modulus carbon (rod, rectangle). I had a scale builder recommend it, and it's pretty great. I bought a roll of it (like working with spring steel), and I've been using it for a couple years now. Cuts

Re: [RCSE] Carbon fiber reinforced spars

2005-01-24 Thread Thomas Koszuta
Calculator. Standard disclaimers apply. - Original Message - From: Harley Michaelis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; RCSE soaring@airage.com Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 12:20 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Carbon fiber reinforced spars Wes. . .it will be easiest to work with the rigid, pre

RE: [RCSE] Carbon fiber reinforced spars

2005-01-24 Thread Anker Berg-Sonne
A word of warning Douglas. Carbon fiber dust is a very bad substance to get into your lungs. When you cut it with a dremel you should, at a minimum, be wearing a filter that prevents the dust from entering your lungs. At best, you should be doing it in an environment that doesn't leave the dust

RE: [RCSE] Carbon fiber reinforced spars

2005-01-24 Thread Douglas, Brent
Here's a good article Jim put out http://www.continuo.com/marske/ARTICLES/Carbon%20rods/carbon.htm - short answer to the size question is (.092 x .220) Good luck, Brent RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [RCSE] Carbon fiber reinforced spars

2005-01-24 Thread Dick Williamson
Title: Re: [RCSE] Carbon fiber reinforced spars Hi Wes, I am in the process of building a Majestic. Mark Drela has provided a series of suggested modifications for the Majestic, one of which is to add carbon fiber to the spars. For this 110-in.-span plane, he recommends tapered carbon fiber

Re: [RCSE] Carbon fiber reinforced spars

2005-01-24 Thread Jack Womack
Look in R/C Groups/Sailplanes/Thermal and find the original Houston Hawk thread. In the first 100 replys there is a good system shown for spars of the Houston Hawk. It's a 126 RES ship and the winf has so far proven winch proof. I used .060 top and .030 bottom caps with no spruce. I wrapped only

Re: [RCSE] Carbon fiber reinforced spars

2005-01-23 Thread Harley Michaelis
Wes. . .it will be easiest to work with the rigid, pre-made laminated spars. They come in several lengths, widths and thicknesses. If this is a 2M RES the .014 thickness should be fine. If somewhat larger, a bit thicker would be better. You do want these to be flush with the top and bottom of

RE: [RCSE] Carbon Fiber Push rods

2002-06-14 Thread Matt Gewain
CST The Composite Store has long carbon rods available. They are .050 and .070 diameters in 72 lengths. Call the order desk for more information. 800-338-1278 -Original Message- From: mike remus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 5:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [RCSE] Carbon Fiber Push rods

2002-06-14 Thread Zbigniew Michalczyk
If your Sharon has fuse made of the FG do not use carbon as push rods to the tail. carbon do not change the length with temperature as much as glass does. You are looking for trouble Mike - Original Message - From: mike remus [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June

Re: [RCSE] Carbon Fiber Push rods

2002-06-14 Thread James V. Bacus
I have carbon push rods in my ICON, Cobra and SchpotDorker and haven't ever had any trouble... Jim At 10:42 PM 6/14/2002, Zbigniew Michalczyk wrote: If your Sharon has fuse made of the FG do not use carbon as push rods to the tail. carbon do not change the length with temperature as much as

Re: [RCSE] Carbon fiber push rods

2002-03-06 Thread Andrew E. Mileski
Duane Asami wrote: Aloha Everyone, W long while ago, I bought a pair of very thin, solid carbon pushrods. Now I can't seem to recall where I got them from. Any ideas? I know Sullivan makes carbon rods but I believe their the hollow ones that you screw a short piece of 2-56 threaded

Re: [RCSE] Carbon Fiber Technical Question....

2001-01-17 Thread Bill Johns
Paul Breed wrote: For a non soaring project I need to know: The coefficient of thermal expansion for carbon fiber, and the coefficient of thermal expansion for typical carbon fiber epoxy composite assemblies. Like many fibers made out of linear, aligned polymers, carbon fibers have a

Re: [RCSE] Carbon fiber manufacturing

2000-12-25 Thread Bill Johns
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By no means am I an authority, but I did just read an interesting article in the December issue of Scientific American about Nanotubes. These are long macromolecules of pure carbon that are interesting both for their resilience and electrical properties. It also

Re: [RCSE] Carbon fiber manufacturing

2000-12-25 Thread Wwing
In a message dated 12/25/2000 6:54:20 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When we can get nanotubes, we will have the ultimate reinforcing fiber. Really good graphite fiber has a modulus (stiffness) of about 400 Mega Pascals with an elastic strain to failure (stretch) of

Re: [RCSE] Carbon fiber manufacturing

2000-12-25 Thread Bill Johns
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 12/25/2000 6:54:20 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When we can get nanotubes, we will have the ultimate reinforcing fiber. Really good graphite fiber has a modulus (stiffness) of about 400 Mega Pascals with an

Re: [RCSE] Carbon fiber manufacturing

2000-12-25 Thread jaffee
Heh...and besides, if it's too expensive to build the whole plane out of the stuff, at least maybe we could have nanotube spars! Anyone up for 500mph DS? At 10:14 PM 12/25/00 -0800, Bill Johns wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 12/25/2000 6:54:20 PM Central Standard Time,

Re: [RCSE] Carbon fiber rods

2000-02-15 Thread SoarSOSS
Beltran, Try www.intothewind.com they are located in Boulder, CO. Jerry Miller SOSS-Medford, OR RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [RCSE] carbon fiber push rods help

1999-09-30 Thread Tom Broeski
Use a small piece of shrink tubing and some CA T [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just bought carbon fiber pushrods for my hlg. What is a good way to attach them to the control horns? I thought about gluing a bit of a metal pushrod to the end, but how would you attach the metal to the carbon?

Re: [RCSE] carbon fiber push rods help

1999-09-30 Thread Dave Johnson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just bought carbon fiber pushrods for my hlg. What is a good way to attach them to the control horns? Tack them on with CA, then wrap tightly with button thread and add another drop of CA. Dave Johnson RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send