Re: [Soekris] Want to build a router

2008-06-23 Thread Chris Cappuccio
Bill Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Fri, 2008-05-23 at 12:51 -0400, Stephen Brown Jr wrote: > > > You may find that you prefer one of the BSDs. > > > > I was just sitting here playing with OpenBSD and it's been a hair > > raising experience so far :/ > > > > Maybe this will reassure you:

Re: [Soekris] Want to build a router

2008-05-25 Thread Bill Maas
On Fri, 2008-05-23 at 12:51 -0400, Stephen Brown Jr wrote: > > You may find that you prefer one of the BSDs. > > I was just sitting here playing with OpenBSD and it's been a hair > raising experience so far :/ > Maybe this will reassure you: tho OpenBSD approach towards new (Linux) users seems

Re: [Soekris] Want to build a router

2008-05-25 Thread Bill Maas
On Fri, 2008-05-23 at 00:21 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 07:46:24PM -0400, Stephen Brown wrote: > > Well I'm looking to get away from my old PC and jump into an embedded > > platform because I think it will be challenging, fun and educational while > > fullfilling a

Re: [Soekris] Want to build a router

2008-05-23 Thread Fran Taylor
I am running Fedora 8 on my 5501. It is not only a router/firewall, it is running: bind DHCPD ntpd OpenLDAP Samba NFS dovecot postfix amavis-new spamassassin ClamAV Bacula apache, mod_svn, mod_authz_ldap proftpd openssh OpenVPN Kerberos postgresql, postgis jabberd I test software for a living an

Re: [Soekris] Want to build a router

2008-05-23 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2008-05-23, Farid Hajji <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 23 May 2008 12:51:54 -0400 > "Stephen Brown Jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Does OpenBSD use iptables just like linux for packet filtering? Are >> there any good front ends for it? (I really like Firehol, Shorewall, >> or a web bas

Re: [Soekris] Want to build a router

2008-05-23 Thread Tuomo Latto
Chris Babcock wrote: > Stephen Brown Jr wrote: >> Does OpenBSD use iptables just like linux for packet filtering? Are >> there any good front ends for it? (I really like Firehol, Shorewall, or >> a web based frontend) > > Also, you may want to read a bit about > "IPFilter" which is the system u

Re: [Soekris] Want to build a router

2008-05-23 Thread Farid Hajji
On Fri, 23 May 2008 12:51:54 -0400 "Stephen Brown Jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does OpenBSD use iptables just like linux for packet filtering? Are > there any good front ends for it? (I really like Firehol, Shorewall, > or a web based frontend) Try pf: http://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/ http://e

Re: [Soekris] Want to build a router

2008-05-23 Thread Stephen Brown Jr
Been spending the afternoon reading about PF, it's really grabbed my attention! I think I'm going to play with this some more this weekend, looks extremely robust. I also found NSH on the flashdist site that was mentioned earlier, that looks pretty good as well. On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 3:15 PM, C

Re: [Soekris] Want to build a router

2008-05-23 Thread Farid Hajji
On Fri, 23 May 2008 10:14:52 -0400 Mike Chirico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 08:35:38AM -0400, Stephen Brown Jr wrote: > > Wow some awesome responses!!! Thanks guys! > > I'd recommend the following: > > net5501-70 > SanDisk 8GB CompactFlash Card (30MB/s) > Atheros Wirele

Re: [Soekris] Want to build a router

2008-05-23 Thread Chris Babcock
Stephen Brown Jr wrote: > > You may find that you prefer one of the BSDs. > > I was just sitting here playing with OpenBSD and it's been a hair > raising experience so far :/ > > I set up a basic install in Vmware and the install was a little tricky, > but I managed to get it. OpenBSD may be a

Re: [Soekris] Want to build a router

2008-05-23 Thread Stephen Brown Jr
> You may find that you prefer one of the BSDs. I was just sitting here playing with OpenBSD and it's been a hair raising experience so far :/ I set up a basic install in Vmware and the install was a little tricky, but I managed to get it. OpenBSD may be a little more for me to swallow right now

Re: [Soekris] Want to build a router

2008-05-23 Thread Chris Babcock
Stephen Brown Jr wrote: > Wow some awesome responses!!! Thanks guys! > > Seems like the consensus says that the 4801 is an obvious choice for me, > I may focus my sights on that. Still not sure what firewall solution I > am going to use yet, I'll admit I'm a little Debian biased, but playing >

Re: [Soekris] Want to build a router

2008-05-23 Thread Mike Chirico
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 08:35:38AM -0400, Stephen Brown Jr wrote: > Wow some awesome responses!!! Thanks guys! > > Seems like the consensus says that the 4801 is an obvious choice for me, I > may focus my sights on that. Still not sure what firewall solution I am > going to use yet, I'll admit I'm

Re: [Soekris] Want to build a router

2008-05-23 Thread Stephen Brown Jr
I saw that the other day, at least they fixed it quickly :D On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 9:06 AM, Trevor Talbot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On May 23, 2008, at 5:43 AM, Marc Balmer wrote: > > If you go with Debian, don't use the latest version, the latest versions >> of any software are usually not

Re: [Soekris] Want to build a router

2008-05-23 Thread Trevor Talbot
On May 23, 2008, at 5:43 AM, Marc Balmer wrote: > If you go with Debian, don't use the latest version, the latest > versions of any software are usually not so stable. I suggest take > a Debian from like mid-2007 or early-2008. > > oh, and use ssh and certificates to secure your communication

Re: [Soekris] Want to build a router

2008-05-23 Thread Marc Balmer
* Stephen Brown Jr wrote: > Wow some awesome responses!!! Thanks guys! > > Seems like the consensus says that the 4801 is an obvious choice for me, I > may focus my sights on that. Still not sure what firewall solution I am > going to use yet, I'll admit I'm a little Debian biased, but playing wit

Re: [Soekris] Want to build a router

2008-05-23 Thread Stephen Brown Jr
Wow some awesome responses!!! Thanks guys! Seems like the consensus says that the 4801 is an obvious choice for me, I may focus my sights on that. Still not sure what firewall solution I am going to use yet, I'll admit I'm a little Debian biased, but playing with BSD may be advantageous as well se

Re: [Soekris] Want to build a router

2008-05-23 Thread Adam Retter
Hi Stephen, I was in the same situation as you previously a few years ago. I bought a net4801 and have found it more than powerfull enough for my 20mbit internet cable connection, it also has a Wirlesless Atheos card in it and so acts as the WAP as well. Whilst I had previously a good knowledge of

Re: [Soekris] Want to build a router

2008-05-23 Thread Brian Candler
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 04:08:40PM -0400, Stephen Brown Jr wrote: >I'm new to this platform, and embedded computing as well and I want to >build a router for my home network. Right now I'm using Smoothwall on >an old Gateway system. >I'd like to stay with that, or maybe try pfsense

Re: [Soekris] Want to build a router

2008-05-22 Thread Sean Murphy
> Although one of my favorite distros, IMO pfSense > just won't make it on the 4501 any more. I don't know how either of > them will fare on the 4801, I run pfSense on a couple of Net4801 units - they do quite well for my usage, including the newest 1.2 release. One of them is a full NAT/ fi

Re: [Soekris] Want to build a router

2008-05-22 Thread RB
> I notice nobody has suggested a net4501. Although older and slower, it > is fairly capable and would probably cover your needs for a basic > router. m0n0wall 1.2 runs pretty well on the 4501, but 1.3 just about exceeds he 4501's resources last I checked (during beta) when you try to do anything

Re: [Soekris] Want to build a router

2008-05-22 Thread Jonathon Exley
I installed vyatta on a net4801 after some messing around. I did the install in vmware and then copied as a tarfile to the CF card, but it didn't work first off, I had to edit mtab and a few other files. If you can install direct to the CF card then that would make things easier, but watch out for

Re: [Soekris] Want to build a router

2008-05-22 Thread Trevor Talbot
On May 22, 2008, at 1:08 PM, Stephen Brown Jr wrote: > I'm new to this platform, and embedded computing as well and I want > to build a router for my home network. Right now I'm using > Smoothwall on an old Gateway system. > > I'd like to stay with that, or maybe try pfsense or possibly roll m

Re: [Soekris] Want to build a router

2008-05-22 Thread Sean Malloy
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 04:08:40PM -0400, Stephen Brown Jr wrote: > I'm new to this platform, and embedded computing as well and I want to build > a router for my home network. Right now I'm using Smoothwall on an old > Gateway system. > > I'd like to stay with that, or maybe try pfsense or possib

Re: [Soekris] Want to build a router

2008-05-22 Thread Jed Clear
On Thu, 22 May 2008, jmc wrote: > --- Stephen Brown [Thu, May 22, 2008 at 07:46:24PM -0400]: --- > > Well I'm looking to get away from my old PC and jump into an embedded > > platform because I think it will be challenging, fun and educational > > while fullfilling a need at the same time, and I

Re: [Soekris] Want to build a router

2008-05-22 Thread jmc
--- Stephen Brown [Thu, May 22, 2008 at 07:46:24PM -0400]: --- > Well I'm looking to get away from my old PC and jump into an embedded > platform because I think it will be challenging, fun and educational > while fullfilling a need at the same time, and I already have a > dedicated switch so t

Re: [Soekris] Want to build a router

2008-05-22 Thread K K
For a home network a few megabits of Internet connectivity, anything modern would be overkill, especially as you already have a dedicated switch and wireless AP. If you're just building a one-off personal machine and want to save a few bucks, there's nothing wrong with buying one of the "end of li

Re: [Soekris] Want to build a router

2008-05-22 Thread dfeustel
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 07:46:24PM -0400, Stephen Brown wrote: > Well I'm looking to get away from my old PC and jump into an embedded > platform because I think it will be challenging, fun and educational while > fullfilling a need at the same time, and I already have a dedicated switch > so th

Re: [Soekris] Want to build a router

2008-05-22 Thread Stephen Brown
Well I'm looking to get away from my old PC and jump into an embedded platform because I think it will be challenging, fun and educational while fullfilling a need at the same time, and I already have a dedicated switch so the 4 port card wouldn't help me. I have been running Smoothwall for a c

Re: [Soekris] Want to build a router

2008-05-22 Thread dfeustel
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 04:08:40PM -0400, Stephen Brown Jr wrote: > I'm new to this platform, and embedded computing as well and I want to build > a router for my home network. Right now I'm using Smoothwall on an old > Gateway system. > > I'd like to stay with that, or maybe try pfsense or possib

[Soekris] Want to build a router

2008-05-22 Thread Stephen Brown Jr
I'm new to this platform, and embedded computing as well and I want to build a router for my home network. Right now I'm using Smoothwall on an old Gateway system. I'd like to stay with that, or maybe try pfsense or possibly roll my own using Debian. I run a small network with about 3-5 machines w