Re: 答复: Re[2]: March 28, 2014

2014-04-03 Thread Sebastien Sterling
Let's just call it off yet again (sigh). I'm tired of this shit too. Not entirely sure what is being perceived as overtly conspiratorial, the issues are their it's not just my opinion that AD bought all three DCC's or killed Softimage or stagers feature releases or the subsequent cost to clien

Re: 答复: Re[2]: March 28, 2014

2014-04-03 Thread Jordi Bares
+1 Considering the guys from AD chipping in are simply trying to help the least we could do is being respectful and maintain a professional attitude. Let's wrap this one please. Jb Sent from my iPhone > On 3 Apr 2014, at 07:45, Raffaele Fragapane > wrote: > > I don't often do this, but...

Re: 答复: Re[2]: March 28, 2014

2014-04-02 Thread Raffaele Fragapane
I don't often do this, but... +1 The list has degraded in its participation and contents considerably, and I've already seen many good names disappear for it. Ironically enough the people who are the angriest about the death of XSI and lashing back with a spiteful attitude while saying at the sam

Re: 答复: Re[2]: March 28, 2014

2014-04-02 Thread Steven Caron
unfortunately, he is just matching the intensity of remarks which have been thrown around this thread and forum for a month now. i am frankly sick of this back and forth. first a new thread starts, people chime in, it escalates until some name calling or some unfounded accusation (conspiracy theory

Re: 答复: Re[2]: March 28, 2014

2014-04-02 Thread Mirko Jankovic
dudes calm down. like a kids in a park :) creating all those theories is really only AD fault due to poor PR communication with small size customer base and at the end they can only feel lied to, betrayed and start figuring what has happens, why things being done... giving some info now after 5 yea

Re: 答复: Re[2]: March 28, 2014

2014-04-02 Thread Sebastien Sterling
You've done it before and you still went straight to SI for your sordid little case and point, it's the fact you keep using previous SI developers/ development as a target even if you are only trying to make up a bunch of BS for comparison. As a matter a fact, yes i do actually have a hate boner a

Re: 答复: Re[2]: March 28, 2014

2014-04-02 Thread Luc-Eric Rousseau
> Hey Luc Eric >[...] > > Your hate boner for SI and it's past development is perplexing, I don't much > care about the behaviors of previous developers. Dude, the stuff I wrote was all made up stuff to prove that you can make cynical stuff the way you do about anything. You're the one with the ha

Re: 答复: Re[2]: March 28, 2014

2014-04-02 Thread Sebastien Sterling
"Sometimes you need to be told you are being an ass and not tiptoe around it." I thought i just did... :P "I don't think my usage of the term "conspiracy theory" was as bad as you are making it out to be." Ou ! never been called a conspiracy theorist before. I could debate the deficient nature of

RE: 答复: Re[2]: March 28, 2014

2014-04-02 Thread Maurice Patel
nesday, April 02, 2014 1:09 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Cc: Graham Bell Subject: Re: 答复: Re[2]: March 28, 2014 Then why is this what many might believe in the first place? On Wednesday, April 02, 2014 12:05:44 PM, Graham Bell wrote: > I'm sorry I wouldn't necessarily agree

RE: 答复: Re[2]: March 28, 2014

2014-04-02 Thread Andi Farhall
13:09:10 -0400 > From: ethivie...@hybride.com > To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com > Subject: Re: 答复: Re[2]: March 28, 2014 > CC: graham.b...@autodesk.com > > Then why is this what many might believe in the first place? > > On Wednesday, April 02, 2014 12:05:44 PM, Graha

Re: 答复: Re[2]: March 28, 2014

2014-04-02 Thread Eric Thivierge
Then why is this what many might believe in the first place? On Wednesday, April 02, 2014 12:05:44 PM, Graham Bell wrote: I'm sorry I wouldn't necessarily agree with the second point below. I'm not saying that we're perfect, but there are different levels of engagement and we're not as invisib

RE: 答复: Re[2]: March 28, 2014

2014-04-02 Thread Graham Bell
...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Angus Davidson Sent: 02 April 2014 15:40 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: RE: 答复: Re[2]: March 28, 2014 Hi Luceric You conveniently seem to forget a few things a) You are on the inside (with all the knowledge )

RE: 答复: Re[2]: March 28, 2014

2014-04-02 Thread Angus Davidson
correcting things, and purposely trying to make them feel stupid. So done here. From: Luc-Eric Rousseau [luceri...@gmail.com] Sent: 02 April 2014 03:48 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: 答复: Re[2]: March 28, 2014 On Wed, Apr 2

Re: 答复: Re[2]: March 28, 2014

2014-04-02 Thread Leendert A. Hartog
Ah well, case closed then... -- Leendert A. Hartog – Softimage hobbyist AKA Hirazi Blue – Administrator @, NOT the owner of si-community.com

RE: 答复: Re[2]: March 28, 2014

2014-04-02 Thread Brent McPherson
Subject: Re: 答复: Re[2]: March 28, 2014 I am not defending or even attacking anyone here. I posted my doubts over the use of the term "conspiracy theory" for what it implies... I do strongly feel it doesn't help any discussion to imply the other is a nut-job... Greetz Lee

Re: 答复: Re[2]: March 28, 2014

2014-04-02 Thread Leendert A. Hartog
I am not defending or even attacking anyone here. I posted my doubts over the use of the term "conspiracy theory" for what it implies... I do strongly feel it doesn't help any discussion to imply the other is a nut-job... Greetz Leendert -- Leendert A. Hartog – Softimage hobbyist AKA Hirazi

Re: 答复: Re[2]: March 28, 2014

2014-04-02 Thread Luc-Eric Rousseau
On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 8:17 AM, Leendert A. Hartog wrote: > Well, there still is a marked difference between someone who is ill-informed > and makes an odd remark based on this and someone who actively > engages/believes in conspiracy theories. > Throwing the term "conspiracy theory" around in the

Re: 答复: Re[2]: March 28, 2014

2014-04-02 Thread Mirko Jankovic
Good point On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 2:17 PM, Leendert A. Hartog wrote: > Well, there still is a marked difference between someone who is > ill-informed and makes an odd remark based on this and someone who actively > engages/believes in conspiracy theories. > Throwing the term "conspiracy theory"

Re: 答复: Re[2]: March 28, 2014

2014-04-02 Thread Leendert A. Hartog
Well, there still is a marked difference between someone who is ill-informed and makes an odd remark based on this and someone who actively engages/believes in conspiracy theories. Throwing the term "conspiracy theory" around in these kind of discussions somehow might give the impression someone is

RE: 答复: Re[2]: March 28, 2014

2014-04-02 Thread Brent McPherson
m] On Behalf Of Angus Davidson Sent: 02 April 2014 12:38 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: RE: 答复: Re[2]: March 28, 2014 Hi Brent Just to clear up this is far more about perception then conspiracy. Before you guys all joined the list this month we had been in pretty much a vacuum as fa

RE: 答复: Re[2]: March 28, 2014

2014-04-02 Thread Angus Davidson
-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Sebastien Sterling Sent: 01 April 2014 17:12 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: 答复: Re[2]: March 28, 2014 AD has always played politics with its upgrades, it's not about giving you

答复: 答复: Re[2]: March 28, 2014

2014-04-02 Thread Xiaodong Xu
, April 02, 2014 5:24 PM 收件人: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com 主题: RE: 答复: Re[2]: March 28, 2014 Politics!? You obviously never worked in a large company before? ;-) Do you seriously think that in a competitive market a company can/will sit back and drip out features as part of some evil master plan? Success can o

RE: 答复: Re[2]: March 28, 2014

2014-04-02 Thread Brent McPherson
...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Sebastien Sterling Sent: 01 April 2014 17:12 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: 答复: Re[2]: March 28, 2014 AD has always played politics with its upgrades, it's not about giving you the most effi

Re: 答复: Re[2]: March 28, 2014

2014-04-01 Thread Sebastien Sterling
: > softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *代表 *Eugen Sares > *发送时间:* Tuesday, April 01, 2014 7:35 PM > *收件人:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com > *主题:* Re[2]: March 28, 2014 > > > > Did anything change already with Maya 2015 to the better? > > > > Not that I ve

答复: Re[2]: March 28, 2014

2014-04-01 Thread Xiaodong Xu
题: Re[2]: March 28, 2014 Did anything change already with Maya 2015 to the better? Not that I very much long to use it... I'm curious, though, if Autodesk can be taken by it's word this time - to 'humanize Maya', and the pace at which this is happening. Any

Re[2]: March 28, 2014

2014-04-01 Thread Eugen Sares
Did anything change already with Maya 2015 to the better? Not that I very much long to use it... I'm curious, though, if Autodesk can be taken by it's word this time - to 'humanize Maya', and the pace at which this is happening. Anyway, it will be most interesting to learn what the most forthcom