RE: galvanized to steel connections

2012-10-01 Thread Tom Binkley
I have not read the other replies so if I am repeating then apologies. Zinc is sacrificial to steel where the corrosion process is electrolytic. There should be no concerns with unprotected steel in contact with zinc coated steel and where water is present, other than the unprotected steel will

RE: Sprinkler head Temperature requirement

2012-10-01 Thread Cahill, Christopher
And so Response time difference is only one factor to consider. Many would draw the conclusion 'OMG 100 seconds difference but what about the children'. Just because the first sprinkler operates later has NO direct singular correlation to the outcome. This is WHY we use higher

RE: galvanized to steel connections

2012-10-01 Thread Dewayne Martinez
What about just using a tri-seal grv cplg like the Victaulic 009? The two pipe ends would never touch because of the rubber gasket in the middle. Would this stop or slow down the corrosion process? -Original Message- From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org

RE: Sprinkler head Temperature requirement

2012-10-01 Thread Johnson, Duane (NIH/OD/ORS) [C]
My name wasn't listed so I am not sure I am able to respond (actually I was out of office on Fri). In the 2002 edition, 8.3.2.1 states ordinary temp sprinklers are to be used throughout, UNLESS 8.3.2.2, 8.3.2.3, 8.3.2.4 OR 8.3.2.5 are met. So you are both right, 8.3.2.2 (the use of Table

RE: Sprinkler head Temperature requirement

2012-10-01 Thread Johnson, Duane (NIH/OD/ORS) [C]
Yes, keep the overall picture in mind. RTI is only one aspect. As others have said, as more sprinklers operate, the discharge density decreases. Why activate additional sprinklers and decrease the density if it is not necessary? One more piece of info for high heat release rate fires and the

Re: Sprinkler head Temperature requirement

2012-10-01 Thread MPhelps
Thanks Duane. You've pointed out the essence of code reading and interpretation. BTW you were included in the All at the end of the specific list. Thanks again...to All Mark at Aero - Original Message - From: Johnson, Duane (NIH/OD/ORS) [C] [mailto:johnson...@mail.nih.gov] Sent:

Re: Waffle slab pipe hanger installation technique

2012-10-01 Thread Richard Lindner
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RE: Sprinkler head Temperature requirement

2012-10-01 Thread Brad Casterline
Chris, I see your point about OMG...! I was not trying to do anything elaborate, and the conclusions for the post had been arrived at-- still I wondered about worst case activation time difference (only). I suppose I should have kept it to myself. I found the HRR that would be just enough to

Fire Pump on vibration spring type isolators

2012-10-01 Thread Gregg Key
Formites and fire protection friends, Has anyone here ever installed an electric fire pump on these spring type isolators? We usually install them on a pad, but recently had someone require us to install on the isolators. Any help would be appreciated. C.Gregg Key, SET Key Fire Protection

Re: Fire Pump on vibration spring type isolators

2012-10-01 Thread Ron Greenman
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RE: Fire Pump on vibration spring type isolators

2012-10-01 Thread Bobby Gillett
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Re: Stupid closet question...

2012-10-01 Thread Curtis Tower
Of course, I was only speaking of adopted codes. I'm not familiar with all of the various code sets available for a jurisdiction to consider; however, the prevalent code set in Texas is IFC. IFC references NFPA 13 and 13R specifically for its installation requirements. What I was ultimately

RE: Fire Pump on vibration spring type isolators

2012-10-01 Thread George Church
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RE: Fire Pump on vibration spring type isolators

2012-10-01 Thread Todd Williams
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Re: Fire Pump on vibration spring type isolators

2012-10-01 Thread Timothy W Goins
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RE: Fire Pump on vibration spring type isolators

2012-10-01 Thread Gregg Key
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RE: Fire Pump on vibration spring type isolators

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RE: Fire Pump on vibration spring type isolators

2012-10-01 Thread George Church
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RE: Fire Pump on vibration spring type isolators

2012-10-01 Thread Tom Duross
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Re: Fire Pump on vibration spring type isolators

2012-10-01 Thread Ron Greenman
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Fire pump annual test

2012-10-01 Thread gerzayn.fuen...@cepi.mx
Recently I do my first fire pump test using playpipes and pitot tube. I do the following and I not sure if I do it right. I do not know if I do it right. I do the following steps: 1. The manifold has six 2.5 connections, on each one I use a play pipe. 2. I open all the OSY of 8 for the manifold.

all i got is some numbers- Act II (final)

2012-10-01 Thread bcasterline
In the recent 'Temperature Rating...' post I said: 286 SR, activation time = 188 seconds 286 QR, activation time = 172 seconds 212 SR, activation time = 97 seconds 212 QR, activation time = 80 seconds This was with a fire directly under the head, with a fire that grew from 0 to ~1000