RE: PRV after pump discharge control valve

Perhaps. If it’s supplying a standpipe system, a single PRV is not acceptable. [Steve Signature (3)] From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Fire Design Sent: Friday, July 13, 2018 3:32 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject:

Re: PRV after pump discharge control valve

Does the FDC line connect downstream of the PRV? Would the fire engine operator supply other than 150 psi to the FDC? Best. Bruce Verhei > On Jul 13, 2018, at 16:20, Tom Duross wrote: > > You’ll have #14 issues, if relevant and depending on adopted version. > I will say that in-series setup

RE: PRV after pump discharge control valve

You’ll have #14 issues, if relevant and depending on adopted version. I will say that in-series setup with bypasses in 2013 #14 is a real PITA to set due to valve creep. From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Fire Design Sent: Friday, July

Re: NFPA 13 RESIDENTIAL Exterior Corridor

Thanks! On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 11:47 AM, wrote: > Pipe arrangement is not mentioned in 11.2.23.4.2. > > I single line of sprinklers. > > > > Tim > > > > *From:* Sprinklerforum *On > Behalf Of *Fire Design > *Sent:* Friday, July 13, 2018 2:07 PM > *To:* sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org

Re: PRV after pump discharge control valve

No, it's all good after the pump discharge control valve. A.4.7.7.2 On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 3:03 PM, Dewayne Martinez < dmarti...@total-mechanical.com> wrote: > Is there anything that restricts the use of a PRV after the discharge > control valve on a fire pump? > > I have a ESFR storage

PRV after pump discharge control valve

Is there anything that restricts the use of a PRV after the discharge control valve on a fire pump? I have a ESFR storage building where I am designing to a “future” water supply which is much higher than the existing water supply. The fire pump must satisfy both existing and future conditions

RE: NFPA 13 RESIDENTIAL Exterior Corridor

Pipe arrangement is not mentioned in 11.2.23.4.2. I single line of sprinklers. Tim From: Sprinklerforum On Behalf Of Fire Design Sent: Friday, July 13, 2018 2:07 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: Re: NFPA 13 RESIDENTIAL Exterior Corridor Thanks guys... regarding

Re: NFPA 13 RESIDENTIAL Exterior Corridor

Thanks guys... regarding 11.2.3.4.2. I always thought that was only good for a single row meaning all the sprinklers were directly on the line. In this case the sidewalls are fed from armovers coming from a looped main. Would this still apply? On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 10:28 AM, wrote: >

RE: NFPA 13 RESIDENTIAL Exterior Corridor

Anthony, Look at 11.2.3.4.2. Regards, G. Tim Stone G. Tim Stone Consulting, LLC NICET Level III Engineering Technician Fire Protection Sprinkler Design and Consulting Services 117 Old Stage Rd. - Essex Jct., VT. 05452 CELL: (802) 373-0638 TEL: (802) 434-2968

Re: NFPA 13 RESIDENTIAL Exterior Corridor

Reliable: F3Res44 Dry good to 175 On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 10:21 AM, Fire Design < fireprotectiondesi...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Guys, > > I'm working on an apartment complex that is being designed per NFPA 13 > standards (2016). All the rooms open from an exterior covered corridor that > is 6

NFPA 13 RESIDENTIAL Exterior Corridor

Hi Guys, I'm working on an apartment complex that is being designed per NFPA 13 standards (2016). All the rooms open from an exterior covered corridor that is 6 ft wide, combustible, and therefore requires sprinklers. I will need to use dry sidewall sprinklers for this and I see there are no

RE: Robotic Parking

NFPA 88A 2015 edition: 9.2.4.1 – Very helpful … John Irwin From: Sprinklerforum On Behalf Of Travis Mack Sent: Friday, July 13, 2018 11:47 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: Re: Robotic Parking You are going to have to get the EOR that created your

RE: Robotic Parking

Travis is definitely right. We have a concept we use in NYC, as we run into this all the time, and in fact I am working on a building right now that is four level stackers. With that being said it is always a best guess without the guidance and the EOR should guide you. Mike Stossel SET

Re: Robotic Parking

Oh wow. Can you hand it to the insurance company? There isn't criteria that I am aware of. Get the 10' pole out and back away slowly Nick Maneen 704-791-7789 On Fri, Jul 13, 2018, 11:40 AM John Irwin wrote: > This is 7 levels of cars stacked vertically. We are in the 2013 edition of > NFPA 13.

Re: Robotic Parking

You are going to have to get the EOR that created your “engineered” drawing involved to give you a hazard since it doesn’t seem to be addressed in NFPA 13. You may want to try to contact the company that designed the robotic car system and see if they can give any guidance. I bet your EOR

RE: Robotic Parking

NFPA does not have any guidance for stackers that high, like Travis had said it is only good up to two. Mike Stossel SET [400dpiLogoCropped] 36 Barren Road East Stroudsburg, PA 18302 Office: 973-670-2627 m...@knssprinkler.com From: Sprinklerforum On Behalf Of

RE: Robotic Parking

This is 7 levels of cars stacked vertically. We are in the 2013 edition of NFPA 13. John Irwin, C.E.T. – jo...@cfcsystems.com Commercial Fire and Communications Fire Sprinkler Specialist – NICET ID: 134153 Cell: 727-282-9243 From: Sprinklerforum On

Re: Robotic Parking

If this is the “car stackers” mentioned in 2016 edition, then it is only for 2 levels high. Travis Mack, SET MFP Design, LLC "Follow" us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pages/MFP-Design-LLC/92218417692 Send large files to MFP Design via: https://www.hightail.com/u/MFPDesign Sent from my

RE: Robotic Parking

Is this regarding stackers on multiple levels or a stacker that has (7) levels of cars? Mike Stossel SET [400dpiLogoCropped] 36 Barren Road East Stroudsburg, PA 18302 Office: 973-670-2627 m...@knssprinkler.com From: Sprinklerforum On Behalf Of John Irwin Sent:

Re: Robotic Parking

2016 Edition of 13 calls these Extra Hazard. These are a challenge to say the least. Good luck. I wish I had a better answer for you. Nick Maneen 704-791-7789 On Fri, Jul 13, 2018, 11:33 AM John Irwin wrote: > Anyone have any experience with these new robotic parking buildings? My >

Robotic Parking

Anyone have any experience with these new robotic parking buildings? My "engineered" plans are pretty bad. No hazard is given. I am going to assume the same as a parking garage? I don't see this as being too challenging, but I am wondering if there is some huge pitfall that I am not aware of. It's