Re: Domestic Demands 13R

2020-11-12 Thread BRUCE VERHEI via Sprinklerforum
: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org > > Cc: travis.m...@mfpdesign.com > Subject: Domestic Demands 13R > > [EXTERNAL] > > Forumites: > > Per 13R 9.6 it requires the domestic demand for the building being calculated > to be added to the fire sprinkler system. This i

RE: Domestic Demands 13R

2020-11-12 Thread Jim Davidson via Sprinklerforum
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2020-11-12 Thread Travis Mack via Sprinklerforum
** From: Sprinklerforum on behalf of Matt Grise via Sprinklerforum Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2020 1:16:17 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Cc: Matt Grise Subject: RE: Domestic Demands 13R What if you just brought in a separate fire line? Then you

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2020-11-12 Thread Matt Grise via Sprinklerforum
Behalf Of Ed Kramer via Sprinklerforum Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2020 2:14 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Cc: e...@bamfordfire.com Subject: RE: Domestic Demands 13R Section 9.6 (2016) says "Domestic demand FOR THE BUILDING BEING CALCULATED shall be included . . ."

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2020-11-12 Thread Ed Kramer via Sprinklerforum
..@pyebarkerfire.com; sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Cc: travis.m...@mfpdesign.com Subject: RE: Domestic Demands 13R Correct. However, they may be expected to have domestic demands. That is the plan reviewer rationale in one particular case. Travis Mack, CFPS, CWBSP, RME-G, SET Engineerin

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2020-11-12 Thread J H via Sprinklerforum
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2020-11-12 Thread John Denhardt via Sprinklerforum
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2020-11-12 Thread Travis Mack via Sprinklerforum
half Of Bob Knight via Sprinklerforum Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2020 11:27 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Cc: Bob Knight Subject: RE: Domestic Demands 13R "However, they may be expected to have domestic demands. That is the plan reviewer rationale in one particular case." Do

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2020-11-12 Thread Bob Knight via Sprinklerforum
- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Travis Mack via Sprinklerforum Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2020 9:53 AM To: philli...@pyebarkerfire.com; sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Cc: travis.m...@mfpdesign.com Subject: RE: Domestic Demands 13R Correct

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2020-11-12 Thread Hinson, Ryan via Sprinklerforum
f Ron Greenman via Sprinklerforum Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2020 11:19 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Cc: Ron Greenman Subject: Re: Domestic Demands 13R My understanding of this is that the complex would have had a total fire flow and domestic flow calculated into the main

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2020-11-12 Thread Travis Mack via Sprinklerforum
rforum On Behalf Of Ron Greenman via Sprinklerforum Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2020 10:19 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Cc: Ron Greenman Subject: Re: Domestic Demands 13R My understanding of this is that the complex would have had a total fire flow and domestic flow calcula

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2020-11-12 Thread Matt Grise via Sprinklerforum
ber 12, 2020 11:19 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Cc: Ron Greenman Subject: Re: Domestic Demands 13R My understanding of this is that the complex would have had a total fire flow and domestic flow calculated into the main loop by the Civil Engineer (his job) and the complex loop is tied into the

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2020-11-12 Thread Ron Greenman via Sprinklerforum
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RE: Domestic Demands 13R

2020-11-12 Thread Travis Mack via Sprinklerforum
517003** From: Hinson, Ryan Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2020 9:59 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Cc: Travis Mack Subject: RE: Domestic Demands 13R Is this entire complex brand new or existing? Your answer will determine mine: 1. Taking a water flow test on an existing looped

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2020-11-12 Thread Hinson, Ryan via Sprinklerforum
out -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum On Behalf Of Travis Mack via Sprinklerforum Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2020 10:34 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Cc: travis.m...@mfpdesign.com Subject: Domestic Demands 13R Forumites: Per 13R 9.6 it requires the domestic de

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2020-11-12 Thread Sean.VanGaal via Sprinklerforum
rsday, November 12, 2020 9:51 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org; travis.m...@mfpdesign.com Cc: Mark Phillips Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Domestic Demands 13R From a practical perspective all of the apartment building would not be expected to be on fire at once. That was how a plan reviewer

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2020-11-12 Thread Travis Mack via Sprinklerforum
inklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org; Travis Mack Subject: Re: Domestic Demands 13R From a practical perspective all of the apartment building would not be expected to be on fire at once. That was how a plan reviewer once explained it to me. Sent from my mobile device Please excuse spelling, gra

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2020-11-12 Thread Mark Phillips via Sprinklerforum
Phillips via Sprinklerforum Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2020 11:46:23 AM To: travis.m...@mfpdesign.com ; sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Cc: Mark Phillips Subject: Re: Domestic Demands 13R [EXTERNAL] Sorry if I was not clear only the demand of the building or buildings that share the 4

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2020-11-12 Thread Travis Mack via Sprinklerforum
ay, November 12, 2020 9:45 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Cc: Sean.VanGaal Subject: RE: Domestic Demands 13R I understand you said you are designed per 13R, but since you have a large lead-in of 4" have you tried to use "the more stringent 13 standard" that essent

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2020-11-12 Thread Mark Phillips via Sprinklerforum
; sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: Domestic Demands 13R [EXTERNAL] So in this case, you would be adding a total demand of 2500 gpm (20 buildings at 125 gpm each) to your sprinkler calc? And yes, it would be included at the point of each 4” connection to the 8” main. Seems

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2020-11-12 Thread Sean.VanGaal via Sprinklerforum
On Behalf Of Travis Mack via Sprinklerforum Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2020 9:34 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Cc: travis.m...@mfpdesign.com Subject: [EXTERNAL] Domestic Demands 13R Forumites: Per 13R 9.6 it requires the domestic demand for the building being calculated to

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2020-11-12 Thread Travis Mack via Sprinklerforum
amp;p=2591775&t=517003  or  http://fergusoncommunications.us.newsweaver.com/hq7bgesq7f/n1gewi5ud95byeftyuoy12/external?email=true&a=6&p=2591775&t=517003** From: Mark Phillips Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2020 9:41 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Cc: Travis Mack Subject: Re: Domest

Re: Domestic Demands 13R

2020-11-12 Thread Mark Phillips via Sprinklerforum
, November 12, 2020 11:34:20 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Cc: travis.m...@mfpdesign.com Subject: Domestic Demands 13R [EXTERNAL] Forumites: Per 13R 9.6 it requires the domestic demand for the building being calculated to be added to the fire sprinkler system. This is generally not

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2020-11-12 Thread Matthew J Willis via Sprinklerforum
- From: Sprinklerforum On Behalf Of Travis Mack via Sprinklerforum Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2020 9:34 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Cc: travis.m...@mfpdesign.com Subject: Domestic Demands 13R Forumites: Per 13R 9.6 it requires the domestic demand for the building being

Domestic Demands 13R

2020-11-12 Thread Travis Mack via Sprinklerforum
Forumites: Per 13R 9.6 it requires the domestic demand for the building being calculated to be added to the fire sprinkler system. This is generally not an issue. If you have a complex of say 20 buildings on site that is supplied by a common water line serving both domestic and fire, are you