Re: Domestic Demands 13R

This is why I hate calling one point on a flow test curve Static. It’s really Background or Normal Usage or something similar. The domestic flow only really matters when have a joint water supply connection for the domestic and spk system. Out at the main someone else is doing fire flow calc’

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f Ron Greenman via Sprinklerforum Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2020 11:19 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Cc: Ron Greenman Subject: Re: Domestic Demands 13R My understanding of this is that the complex would have had a total fire flow and domestic flow calculated into the main

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ber 12, 2020 11:19 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Cc: Ron Greenman Subject: Re: Domestic Demands 13R My understanding of this is that the complex would have had a total fire flow and domestic flow calculated into the main loop by the Civil Engineer (his job) and the complex loop is tied into the

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517003** From: Hinson, Ryan Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2020 9:59 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Cc: Travis Mack Subject: RE: Domestic Demands 13R Is this entire complex brand new or existing? Your answer will determine mine: 1. Taking a water flow test on an existing looped

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Is this entire complex brand new or existing? Your answer will determine mine: 1. Taking a water flow test on an existing looped water main supplying both FW and domestic demands already accounts for the domestic demands of the other buildings, no? On the single main feeding all the way in

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rsday, November 12, 2020 9:51 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org; travis.m...@mfpdesign.com Cc: Mark Phillips Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Domestic Demands 13R From a practical perspective all of the apartment building would not be expected to be on fire at once. That was how a plan reviewer

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inklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org; Travis Mack Subject: Re: Domestic Demands 13R From a practical perspective all of the apartment building would not be expected to be on fire at once. That was how a plan reviewer once explained it to me. Sent from my mobile device Please excuse spelling, gra

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Phillips via Sprinklerforum Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2020 11:46:23 AM To: travis.m...@mfpdesign.com ; sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Cc: Mark Phillips Subject: Re: Domestic Demands 13R [EXTERNAL] Sorry if I was not clear only the demand of the building or buildings that share the 4

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ay, November 12, 2020 9:45 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Cc: Sean.VanGaal Subject: RE: Domestic Demands 13R I understand you said you are designed per 13R, but since you have a large lead-in of 4" have you tried to use "the more stringent 13 standard" that essent

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; sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: Domestic Demands 13R [EXTERNAL] So in this case, you would be adding a total demand of 2500 gpm (20 buildings at 125 gpm each) to your sprinkler calc? And yes, it would be included at the point of each 4” connection to the 8” main. Seems

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I understand you said you are designed per 13R, but since you have a large lead-in of 4" have you tried to use "the more stringent 13 standard" that essentially says UG mains less than 4" that are for fire/domestic you have to calculate both unless you have a way to automatically isolate the non

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Assuming the 8 inch supply loops the complex Add the domestic demand at the 4” point on the loop for each building Sent from my mobile device Please excuse spelling, grammar, and auto correction. Mark Phillips Branch Manager Fire Sprinkler Design, Install, Inspections Service, Backflows, Fire Ala

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If I remember correctly, I treated each calc as its own. In other words the 125 for each building. I do not recall adding all domestic flows to the U/G serving both. Seems the same for not having to flow more than 1 calc area when inside the same building. R/ Matt -Original Message- F