Re: Flow switch problem

2013-03-04 Thread Thomas Watt
Just give me the drawings and I will make it happen.I don't want to waste water any more than anyone else. North Dakota, I here you calling. You aren't speaking in sprinkler though. Pipe and valves, I understand so... Thomas Watt > Pipefitter Extraordinaire -- next part -

Re: Flow switch problem

2013-02-23 Thread John Drucker
nklerforum@firesprinkler.org" Sent: Fri, Feb 22, 2013 20:05:39 GMT+00:00 Subject: Re: Flow switch problem Just wait until the Federal Government gets involved regarding water conservation. I did some research and if Australia is to be the model and I think it will . . . water recovery

Re: Flow switch problem

2013-02-23 Thread Bruce Verhei
sprinkler.org" Sent: Fri, Feb 22, 2013 20:05:39 GMT+00:00 Subject: Re: Flow switch problem Just wait until the Federal Government gets involved regarding water conservation. I did some research and if Australia is to be the model and I think it will . . . water recovery, testing inter

Re: Flow switch problem

2013-02-22 Thread Mike Cabral
> > Bv > > -Original message- > From: Ron Greenman > To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org > Sent: Thu, Feb 21, 2013 22:10:54 GMT+00:00 > Subject: Re: Flow switch problem > > Interesting comment Roland (and I noticed that it was made without hatred). > B

Re: Flow switch problem

2013-02-22 Thread Bruce Verhei
nklerforum@firesprinkler.org Sent: Thu, Feb 21, 2013 22:10:54 GMT+00:00 Subject: Re: Flow switch problem Interesting comment Roland (and I noticed that it was made without hatred). Back in 13A days, with less things to check and very spotty enforcement the "should" did we miss so much that an ever i

RE: Flow switch problem

2013-02-22 Thread Cliff Whitfield
: Friday, February 22, 2013 10:55 AM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: Re: Flow switch problem Yeah, but your kids are always kids. Cliff should know. Steve will. On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 8:53 AM, Cliff Whitfield wrote: > Steve, > > You read my mind! > > Cliff

Re: Flow switch problem

2013-02-22 Thread Ron Greenman
; > cl...@fire-design.com > www.fire-design.com > > -Original Message- > From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org > [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Steve > Leyton > Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 10:52 AM > To: sprinklerforum@fires

RE: Flow switch problem

2013-02-22 Thread Cliff Whitfield
Steve Leyton Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 10:52 AM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: Flow switch problem Aren't your kids in their 20's or 30's? Steve Leyton -Original Message- From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org [mailto:spri

RE: Flow switch problem

2013-02-22 Thread Steve Leyton
ler.org Subject: Re: Flow switch problem But my kids call you Roland Hugs and Kisses. On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 7:40 AM, Roland Huggins wrote: > Personally I don't believe that requires ANY thought or hatred (some > day I will learn to type well enough to avoid such amusing typo's.

Re: Flow switch problem

2013-02-22 Thread Ron Greenman
But my kids call you Roland Hugs and Kisses. On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 7:40 AM, Roland Huggins wrote: > Personally I don't believe that requires ANY thought or hatred (some day I > will learn to type well enough to avoid such amusing typo's. At least you > don't make fun of my southern nnuncia

Re: Flow switch problem

2013-02-22 Thread Roland Huggins
Personally I don't believe that requires ANY thought or hatred (some day I will learn to type well enough to avoid such amusing typo's. At least you don't make fun of my southern nnunciation). Roland On Feb 21, 2013, at 2:10 PM, Ron Greenman wrote: > Interesting comment Roland (and I no

Re: Flow switch problem

2013-02-21 Thread Ron Greenman
Interesting comment Roland (and I noticed that it was made without hatred). Back in 13A days, with less things to check and very spotty enforcement the "should" did we miss so much that an ever increasing demand per 25 solve? Have we reached or already exceeded the point of diminishing return with

Re: Flow switch problem

2013-02-21 Thread Ed Vining
We also used to use one or more of these. www.jmesales.com/.../dixon-powhatan-*sprinkler*-*line*-*tester*,10210,49...It screws into a convenient sprinkler fitting, and the sprinkler screws into it. It has a hose bib male for a hose connection. Ed Ed Vining 4819 John Muir Rd Martinez CA 94553 925

Re: Flow switch problem

2013-02-21 Thread Roland Huggins
That's a different issue which some argue can apply to a lot of NFPA 25. Some of us have started preaching (some may say harping) that we can't just say will an activity improve the reliability of the system but what's the cost/benefit relationship. The higher the cost goes, the lower the proba

Re: Flow switch problem

2013-02-21 Thread Greg McGahan
Waste of money On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 9:31 AM, Roland Huggins wrote: > That is indeed how we USE TO do things in the good ole days (not calling > you old Mike - lol) but keep in mind that NFPA 25 now says if you unscrew > the sprinkler, you replace it with a NEW one. > > Roland > > On Feb 20

Re: Flow switch problem

2013-02-21 Thread Roland Huggins
That is indeed how we USE TO do things in the good ole days (not calling you old Mike - lol) but keep in mind that NFPA 25 now says if you unscrew the sprinkler, you replace it with a NEW one. Roland On Feb 20, 2013, at 5:59 AM, Mike Cabral wrote: > and or go to several areas of the system a

RE: Flow switch problem

2013-02-20 Thread Bruce Verhei
ginal message- From: Matt Mueller To: "'sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org'" Sent: Wed, Feb 20, 2013 18:01:28 GMT+00:00 Subject: RE: Flow switch problem Seen this a bunch of times, and I could have told you it was an Ames. Ames has two different cam checks they use in their SS

RE: Flow switch problem

2013-02-20 Thread Matt Mueller
.9822 C 847.602.3576 -Original Message- From: Hillman, Lorenzo [mailto:hillm...@leonschools.net] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 6:39 AM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: Flow switch problem Could it be a programming problem ie. The point is set as a momentary relay and

Re: Flow switch problem

2013-02-20 Thread Mike Cabral
> > > From: Justin Reid > To: Jay Stough ; "sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org" > > Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 8:06 AM > Subject: Re: Flow switch problem > > Is the flowing water coming from a pressure relief valve? Or from

RE: Flow switch problem

2013-02-20 Thread Bill Gooding
problem >From a drain valve w/ broken sprinkler. Jay Stough From: Justin Reid To: Jay Stough ; "sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org" Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 8:06 AM Subject: Re: Flow switch problem Is the flowing water coming fr

RE: Flow switch problem

2013-02-20 Thread Mike Henke
prinklerforum@firesprinkler.org" Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 8:06 AM Subject: Re: Flow switch problem Is the flowing water coming from a pressure relief valve? Or from the drain valve? Justin Reid Sent from my iPhone On Feb 20, 2013, at 7:37 AM, Jay Stough wrote: > I

RE: Flow switch problem

2013-02-20 Thread Mike Henke
lerforum@firesprinkler.org" Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 8:06 AM Subject: Re: Flow switch problem Is the flowing water coming from a pressure relief valve? Or from the drain valve? Justin Reid Sent from my iPhone On Feb 20, 2013, at 7:37 AM, Jay Stough wrote: > I'll try to an

Re: Flow switch problem

2013-02-20 Thread Mike Cabral
> > > Jay Stough > > > > From: Justin Reid > To: Jay Stough ; "sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org" > > Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 8:06 AM > Subject: Re: Flow switch problem > > Is the flowing water coming from a pressure relief

Re: Flow switch problem

2013-02-20 Thread Justin Reid
ahan > To: Jay Stough ; "sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org" > > Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 7:01 AM > Subject: Re: Flow switch problem > > Have you taken the cover off and watched the behavior of the backside of the > lever? > > Sent from my iPhone &g

Re: Flow switch problem

2013-02-20 Thread Greg McGahan
..@firesprinkler.org [mailto: > sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of John Drucker > Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 7:03 AM > To: jaycs7...@yahoo.com; sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org > Subject: Re: Flow switch problem > > Is there a BFP on system ? > John Drucke

RE: Flow switch problem

2013-02-20 Thread Hillman, Lorenzo
sage- From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of John Drucker Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 7:03 AM To: jaycs7...@yahoo.com; sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: Re: Flow switch problem Is there a BFP on system ? John Dru

Re: Flow switch problem

2013-02-20 Thread Charles Thurston
Hello Jay, I had the same thing happening here on a large gridded system that was improperly itched. Found lots of trapped air was causing this. Wednesday, February 20, 2013, 6:55:16 AM, you wrote: > We have a wet system that is having problems with the flow switch. > The flow switch would sen

Re: Flow switch problem

2013-02-20 Thread Todd - Work
An internal electrical problem with the switch? Ran into a similar in a highrise where the 5th floor was sending arbitrary signals. Ended up replacing the switch and all was fine. Todd G Williams, PE Fire Protection Design/Consulting Stonington, CT www.fpdc.com On Feb 20, 2013, at 6:55 AM, Jay

Re: Flow switch problem

2013-02-20 Thread John Drucker
Is there a BFP on system ? John Drucker - Mobile Email - Original Message - From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org To: Sprinkler -Forum Sent: Wed Feb 20 06:55:16 2013 Subject: Flow switch problem We have a wet system that is having problems with the flow switch.  The flow swi

Re: Flow switch problem

2013-02-20 Thread David M. Canham
Jay Could the system have a lot of air in it? In larger system that have no way of venting air when filling them the clappers in alarm valve or in you case the flow switch may be come intermittent. David Canham Fire Systems Solutions Sent from my iPad On Feb 20, 2013, at 6:55 AM, Jay Stough

Re: Flow switch problem

2013-02-20 Thread Greg McGahan
Have you taken the cover off and watched the behavior of the backside of the lever? Sent from my iPhone On Feb 20, 2013, at 5:55 AM, Jay Stough wrote: > We have a wet system that is having problems with the flow switch. The flow > switch would send a signal and then stop and then send anothe