[SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] SBR Synchronising Problem

2017-04-09 Thread cyprusgrump
I wonder if anybody can help with this - the problem goes back to 2011 but many software releases later it persists. I have LMS 7.9.0 running on a QNAP TS-251 I have a wired network with three SBs and one SBR. All latest firmware. Three SBs run perfectly (synchronised them one at a time)... As

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Peter Watkins' Plugins

2017-04-09 Thread cyprusgrump
Would anybody have instructions as to how to install Syncoptions on my QNAP...? I wonder if it would solve my SBR synch problem? cyprusgrump's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14325 View this thread

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Logitech Media Server 7.9 is out!

2017-04-09 Thread cyprusgrump
I'm a little confused... When I bought my QNAP it didn't have LMS loaded but I found an excellent description on the interwebz about how to do it... If I go to LMS in my web browser, 192.168.1.126:9001 and click Settings >>> Information it says I am running Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.0 -

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Logitech Media Server 7.9 is out!

2017-04-09 Thread cyprusgrump
karlek wrote: > That is a known issue. Since you didn't install 7.9.0 as qpkg, the app > center doesn't know, it's runningi a new version. But your LMS tells you > that. So the easiest way is to ignore the Version in app center. > > Nevertheless there will be an update as LMS tells you. To updat

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] SBR Synchronising Problem

2017-04-09 Thread cyprusgrump
mherger wrote: > What type of content are you playing? Do you see anything in server.log? > > What if you sync the Receiver with one Classic only? > -- > > Michael Hi, thanks for your reply... The content doesn't matter. MP3s for instance demonstrate the effect reliably. No, it won't even w

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] SBR Synchronising Problem

2017-04-10 Thread cyprusgrump
Mnyb wrote: > SBR. > > Squeezebox reciever or squeezebox radio ? > > Is it wifi or ethernet conected ? > > How avout the SB3's ? Wifi or ethernet ? Thanks for your reply! Sorry, it is a Squeezebox Radio. The SBs are all hard wired. The SBR is currently connected by WiFi but has the same ef

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] SBR Synchronising Problem

2017-04-10 Thread cyprusgrump
Okay... I have updated the software with SSOTS Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.0 - 1488878280 @ Wed Mar 8 14:06:41 UTC 2017 It seems more reliable! But then, just when I thought it was fixed it stopped again... Played some random tracks and all was okay. Then played The Best of Gerry Raffe

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] SBR Synchronising Problem

2017-04-10 Thread cyprusgrump
Man in a van wrote: > With regard to your upgrading to v7.9 > > When you downloaded the upgrade file did you store it in the Public > folder and change its name? > > When you do the upgrade, you have to stop the Squeezebox server and then > install the upgrade. > > How I do it; is to download

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] SBR Synchronising Problem

2017-04-10 Thread cyprusgrump
Mnyb wrote: > Hi again . > > Btw do get the log files as sugested from the stop ocurances , se > mhergers post . > > Do you have any other machine (PC ,mac ) thats wired to the network ( a > server should be wired assume that the QNAP is wired) > > Suggestion try LMS 7.9.0 or 7.9.1 on one of t

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] SBR Synchronising Problem

2017-04-10 Thread cyprusgrump
bpa wrote: > If the problem is due to network and data underrun I think you'll need > to enable network.protocol.slimproto to INFO to get proper messages in > server.log. It'll generate lots of message but note the time player > stops and then look in the log around the same timestamp (probably

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] SBR Synchronising Problem

2017-04-10 Thread cyprusgrump
bpa wrote: > If the problem is due to network and data underrun I think you'll need > to enable network.protocol.slimproto to INFO to get proper messages in > server.log. It'll generate lots of message but note the time player > stops and then look in the log around the same timestamp (probably

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] SBR Synchronising Problem

2017-04-10 Thread cyprusgrump
Mnyb wrote: > But then you changed one thing the 500ms.. I know I shouldn't have messed with it! I did it in passing, I must have changed a billionteen settings since I got the SBR in 2011... I find it hard to believe I haven't changed that before... Anyway... it is -STILL -working! Looki

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] SBR Synchronising Problem

2017-04-11 Thread cyprusgrump
How strange! I had the system running for hours yesterday - played all sorts of tracks, albums and playlists. Watched thousands of lines in the Server Log! Switched it off at midnight. This morning I switched on the four players from LMS and started to play an album. It played track #1 then stop

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] SBR Synchronising Problem

2017-04-11 Thread cyprusgrump
Mnyb wrote: > Good anyway . > > This mac id 00:04:20:05:1b:fc: is it the Radio ? > > You can see different players mac-id in the LMS web-UI > -settings/information tab Thanks for your prompt reply! No, the radio is :e0 mac :fc is a SB that sits next to my desk and happens to be the closest t

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] SBR Synchronising Problem

2017-04-11 Thread cyprusgrump
bpa wrote: > Sounds like network issue. Intermittent drops in throughput. You said > players are wired but that can hide a mulitude of sins. Please give > details of the network, server and players including router, adapters > (e.g. extenders, homeplug, bridges, switches etc.). What other dev

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] SBR Synchronising Problem

2017-04-11 Thread cyprusgrump
bpa wrote: > That is unlikely to be related to the root of the problem since 4 player > synced bandwidth playing MP3 should only require a reliable network of > say about 5 Mbps. > If it is network related - something is intermittently jamming/flooding > the network. A bigger switch may result in

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] SBR Synchronising Problem

2017-04-11 Thread cyprusgrump
bpa wrote: > Still not enough details. > What sort of QNAP ? > Do you have any DLNA enabled renderers (e.g. TVs ) as they can create > broadcast storms which every device will see ? > Where is the DNS server ? > Are the server & players static IP or DHCP dynamic IPs or hybrid (i.e. > same IP ass

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] SBR Synchronising Problem

2017-04-11 Thread cyprusgrump
bpa wrote: > There is no trick. Some settings will not generate log message until > streams are run. > How are you viewing the log file ? If through the browser "WebUI > Setting/Info" make sure page is refreshed. Better through a shell > prompt and "tail" the log file. > > * Make sure the Set

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] SBR Synchronising Problem

2017-04-11 Thread cyprusgrump
bpa wrote: > Don't change the box which you ahave changed to "server" - just change > the "Advanced logging" player.source box alone. The top line "logging" > changes a number of logging settings which may be useful debugging > server activity for novices - I'm guessing it reset the player.sourc

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] SBR Synchronising Problem

2017-04-11 Thread cyprusgrump
Okay, well I changed all the players to fixed IP. Played an album and it failed. Server log is attached but I can't see any obvious error messages in debug mode. +---+ |Filename: server.log.zip

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] SBR Synchronising Problem

2017-04-11 Thread cyprusgrump
bpa wrote: > There are a whole lot of extraneous errors that should be removed as > they are cluttering up the log and making behaviouir unpredictable. LMS > startup should be clean with no error messages. > > What version of LMS are you running - it looks like there are two > > Code: ---

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] SBR Synchronising Problem

2017-04-11 Thread cyprusgrump
UPDATE I guess all three SBs are SB1s - they all look like this... 22483 +---+ |Filename: 900x900px-LL-d3580a81_2013-02-0122.34.29_zpsc4hvjnmp.jpeg| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=22483| +

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] SBR Synchronising Problem

2017-04-11 Thread cyprusgrump
bpa wrote: > SB2 look like SB1 as they reused the case. Firmware version is the > giveaway. > > Firmware 40 is the latest f/w version for SB1. > Firmware 137 (?) is thr latest f/w for SB2 , SB3, SB Classic. > > Problem is that SB1 has a small buffer and IIRC an older sync method to > subsequent

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] SBR Synchronising Problem

2017-04-11 Thread cyprusgrump
bpa wrote: > There may be ways to make them work but I don't use sync much so I > cannot offer specific advice. > > The following error message might explain the lack of audio as they are > due to failed I/O - interesting they are related to SB1 sync (scroll to > end of message). It's possible

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] SBR Synchronising Problem

2017-04-11 Thread cyprusgrump
mherger wrote: > > [15-12-29 08:59:06.0930] Slim::Networking::IO::Select::__ANON__ > (131) Error: Select task failed calling > Slim::Networking::Slimproto::client_readable: Can't use an undefined > value as an ARRAY reference at > /share/CACHEDEV1_DATA/.qpkg/LogitechMediaServer/var/home/Squeeze

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] SBR Synchronising Problem

2017-04-11 Thread cyprusgrump
mherger wrote: > > issue. Took a SliMP3, a SB1 and a Radio and synced them. Played three > > songs in a row. > > Little update: I can't get this combo to stream online radio. Taking the > > SliMP3 out of the equation is working again. Local music is no problem, > > though. > > > -- > > Mic

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] SBR Synchronising Problem

2017-04-12 Thread cyprusgrump
mherger wrote: > > Yes, I can confirm that just a single SB1 and radio present the same > > problem. > > > > It is sometimes random though - you can try and play an album over > and > > over and it always fails after the first track. And then, without any > > changes it will play four or five or

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] SBR Synchronising Problem

2017-04-12 Thread cyprusgrump
mherger wrote: > Just some more information so I don't forget: I've run into an issue > where LMS would keep waiting for one of the synced players' audio data > queue to drain: > > [17-04-12 09:22:50.6256] Slim::Player::Source::nextChunk (133) Waiting > for queue to drain for 00:04:20:04:xx:x