d6jg wrote:
> Don't do that !
>
> I doubt the Touch will ever successfully connect to that router via
> wifi. It will be a vagary of the wifi implementation on the router that
> the Touch doesn't like or vice versa. I have seen similar with MS
> Surface Pro's.
>
> If LMS is now quicker to respo
Don't do that !
I doubt the Touch will ever successfully connect to that router via
wifi. It will be a vagary of the wifi implementation on the router that
the Touch doesn't like or vice versa. I have seen similar with MS
Surface Pro's.
If LMS is now quicker to respond that is the accidental fix
d6jg wrote:
> I suspect you may have had a misconfiguration before which you have now
> accidentally resolved.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Well I could now try switching one of my Touches to the new router's
SSID - but I'm not that much of a masochist. :D
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john greenwood wrote:
> Yes, no and yes. The LMS server is wired to the old router. Seems to
> work though. If a problem develops, it's easy to change (although right
> now I don't have a spare Ethernet connection on my new router).
>
>
>
> Surprised by the speed, myself. As to the second
d6jg wrote:
> Glad you got there in the end.
> I presume the 2 x Touch are connected to the old router SSID and the LMS
> server is hard wired to the new one (and has a reserved IP) as we
> discussed.
> Networking is really easy when you know what you are doing :)
Yes, no and yes. The LMS serv
Still curious:
- why does the new router allow the Touches (which are connected to
the old router, I assume) to load the music faster?
- it would be interesting to know (maybe not for you?) what setting
prevented the Touches connect reliably to the new router by WiFi.
Anyway, glad t
john greenwood wrote:
> Spent last night listening to my Touches without a hitch or a jump. My
> new router allows them to load up my music library in a fraction of the
> time* it took before. Thanks to d6jg and everyone else who helped me
> get to this point.
>
> *Never really liked that expr
Spent last night listening to my Touches without a hitch or a jump. My
new router allows them to load up my music library in a fraction of the
time* it took before. Thanks to d6jg and everyone else who helped me
get to this point.
*Never really liked that expression. What if the "fraction" wer
Just finishing listening to a 48 minute track without jumping. By
George, I think you've got it!
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d6jg wrote:
> It would be a good idea once everything is working to give your LMS
> server a static IP. Investigate whether DHCP reservation is possible on
> your new router.
If that's the same as a reserved IP address, I just did it.
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It would be a good idea once everything is working to give your LMS
server a static IP. Investigate whether DHCP reservation is possible on
your new router.
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No
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Leave the server wired. Does it have a fixed IP?
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d6jg wrote:
> You need to set up a different SSID on the old router and point the
> Touch's at that.
> What should then happen is that a Touch will connect to the SSID on the
> old router but gets its IP from the DHCP of the new router.
Got it. And should my LMS server computer connect to the
john greenwood wrote:
> Thanks so much. I can do that. Just one more question - how will the
> Touches "know" to look to the old router?
You need to set up a different SSID on the old router and point the
Touch's at that.
What should then happen is that a Touch will connect to the SSID on the
Thanks so much. I can do that. Just one more question - how will the
Touches "know" to look to the old router?
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john greenwood wrote:
> I tried the first step several days ago. I think I did it correctly. I
> ran an Ethernet cable from the old router's internet connection port to
> a non-internet connection port on the new router. The old router had
> been set up with a different network name (although
reinholdk wrote:
> For a first test use a different SSID so you can make sure that the
> Touch connects to the AP.
>
> If everything would be working fine then the SSIDs could even be
> identical and the AP would just extend the WiFi coverage in your home -
> and with better performance than a W
john greenwood wrote:
> Thinking about this (at least in theory to understand how it would
> work). Should the old router/WiFi Access Point have an SSID that is
> different from my new router (the one connected to the modem)? If so, I
> may have the problem described above (new router loses int
toby10 wrote:
> Just to see if that resolves the issue, a diagnosis tool. If it does
> work then your problem is within the new routers settings.
> But, yes, you can keep it on your network. But make sure you read up on
> how to run two routers on one network.
I've pretty much played with ever
john greenwood wrote:
> And why "(temporarily)"?
Just to see if that resolves the issue, a diagnosis tool. If it does
work then your problem is within the new routers settings.
But, yes, you can keep it on your network. But make sure you read up on
how to run two routers on one networ
reinholdk wrote:
> Or try to use the old router (temporarily) as an WiFi Access Point only
> and let the Touch connect to this. Some routers have a dedicated AP mode
> setting, some must be configured manually to do so.
Thinking about this (at least in theory to understand how it would
work). S
reinholdk wrote:
> Does this mean that the problems only appear with the Apple lossless
> tracks? Or are all of your music files Apple lossless?
I have a mixture of Apple Lossless and FLAC files. I happened to do my
testing with Apple Lossless. They probably make up the more than 75% of
my mus
Or try to use the old router (temporarily) as an WiFi Access Point only
and let the Touch connect to this. Some routers have a dedicated AP mode
setting, some must be configured manually to do so.
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This may be stating the obvious but what was wrong with the old router?
Why not swap back?
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john greenwood wrote:
> All of the above music is at lossless CD Quality. The tracks with the
> problems are Apple Lossless.
Does this mean that the problems only appear with the Apple lossless
tracks? Or are all of your music files Apple lossless?
Trying one bump.
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There's one other thing I noticed. When I look at a map of my network
(using the Linksys software) I see an icon for each item, but only one
for the two Touches. When I click on the icon, I can see that each does
have a separate IP address, but it strikes me as odd. They don't have
the individu
reinholdk wrote:
> Touch and Radio are both 802.11g devices. And it should not matter
> whether 2.4 and 5GHz have the same SSID or not, or whether the router's
> nw mode is 802.11g only or not.
And as it turns out it doesn't matter. I can't get my Touches to work
properly with any setting I've
john greenwood wrote:
> Tried channels 3 (my current choice after running a wi-fi analysis
> program), 4, 7 and 11 (as I recall), and I currently have 2.4 and 5gHz
> set up as separate SSIDs. But I also tried using the same SSID. Will
> try switching network mode to 802.11g only. One other opti
Mnyb wrote:
> Are you using them in the same room as the router and it's still
> impossible to use an ethernet cable :confused: or are you just testing
>
> The wifi strength in LMS is not the whole story , it can actually be to
> much and intermittent disturbances are not shown .
>
> Recommend
Are you using them in the same room as the router and it's still
impossible to use an ethernet cable :confused: or are you just testing
The wifi strength in LMS is not the whole story , it can actually be to
much and intermittent disturbances are not shown .
Recommend ch1 ,6 or 11 they overlap q
Mnyb wrote:
> I moved the router a bit . they have antenna orientation etc
Just tried that to no avail. My LMS server is showing my Touch with
100% signal strength. And right now my router is in the middle of my
living room for testing. Ultimately it's going to be hidden in a corner
with my m
I moved the router a bit . they have antenna orientation etc
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Mnyb wrote:
> Have you tried a Touch in the same location as the radio ?
>
> Well the wifi in these things are not fantastic , it is always a slow
> wifi war with the neighbours .
>
> I had a recent bout with one of remaining unwired players , i reflashed
> the router and moved it 10cm problem
Have you tried a Touch in the same location as the radio ?
Well the wifi in these things are not fantastic , it is always a slow
wifi war with the neighbours .
I had a recent bout with one of remaining unwired players , i reflashed
the router and moved it 10cm problem solved ? but these things d
slartibartfast wrote:
> I use android so I can't help with iPhone apps. If you have a PC then
> inssider is good choice.
>
> Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk
I just downloaded and installed Acrylic Analyzer on my Windows machine.
Found a channel that looked good. Tried it. Didn't make an
john greenwood wrote:
> Struggling with this. Just downloaded the Linksys software as well as
> "Net Analyzer Pro" from the App Store, but can't figure out how to
> examine channel use. Can you point me to a specific app?
>
> In the meanwhile, trying a different channel as the first was no
> i
slartibartfast wrote:
> Using an app like WiFi analyser you can see which channels are being
> used by neighbours and avoid them.
>
> Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk
Struggling with this. Just downloaded the Linksys software as well as
"Net Analyzer Pro" from the App Store, but can't figu
john greenwood wrote:
> If I knew how . . .
>
> OK - just found the setting. I can change the Channel (just changed to
> 2.447 chosen randomly), Channel Width (currently Auto/other option is
> 20Mhz) and Network Mode (currently mixed/other option are 802.11b,
> 802.11g and 802.11b/g).
Using an
slartibartfast wrote:
> Have you tried changing WiFi channels?
>
> Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk
If I knew how . . .
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> Further troubleshooting:
>
> I keep a back-up copy of LMS on my main (work) computer (WiFi only).
> Generally, I do not leave that running. For testing purposes I started
> it up, and redirected one of my Touches to use it. Same issue - it
> jumped to the next track.
john greenwood wrote:
> I started a new thread, but it probably makes sense to move it here.
>
> I'm not even sure where to post this question. I upgraded my router
> today to a Linksys EA7300 AC1750 router. When I used my Squeezebox Touch
> for the first time it played a track for about two min
I started a new thread, but it probably makes sense to move it here.
I'm not even sure where to post this question. I upgraded my router
today to a Linksys EA7300 AC1750 router. When I used my Squeezebox Touch
for the first time it played a track for about two minutes and then
jumped to the next
Skipping is a symptom of a network issue. It's where the buffer stops
getting data for a short but too long period which the player interprets
as an end of file.
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bpa wrote:
> If it happens with audio files as well as plugins then it is a network
> issue.
I've been seeing it with audio files. The odd thing is that I recall the
days of getting dropouts back when my wireless network had hickups. Now,
the behavior is to skip to the next song.
-
First of all thanks for the quick answers!!
bpa wrote:
> If it happens with audio files as well as plugins then it is a network
> issue.
>
> If it only happens with GPM plugin then it is more likely to be a plugin
> issue and a post on the GPM thread may be more useful.
>
> Any message in log
I had this same issue when also upgrading to LMS 7.9 and unfortunately
could not resolve the problem and had to roll back to an older version
of LMS:(
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If it happens with audio files as well as plugins then it is a network
issue.
If it only happens with GPM plugin then it is more likely to be a plugin
issue and a post on the GPM thread may be more useful.
Any message in log file ?
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Hi there,
out of nowhere since a couple of day I experience the same issue when
using google music plug in. Random songs are not played until the end.
LMS skips to the next track approx. 10 to 20 secs. before the end of the
current song. I already tried a couple of things which did not help at
al
Here's a quick follow up to my skipping issue with Duet Receiver.
The "bargain" mother board I picked up turned out to be so old it would
only support 2 gig of ram rather than the 4 gig my other board would
handle. It also wouldn't recognize my video card so I was without video.
So, out with the
Jim Holtz wrote:
> I tested one of my Duets that had been skipping with the laptop I set up
> with LMS and it worked perfectly with a 2.4 wireless connection.
>
> This is merely speculation but I can't help but wonder if the Ethernet
> hardware on my very old Gigabyte mother board is malfunctio
bpa wrote:
> All SB hardware internal wifi only supports 2.4 but it seems the OP said
> he is using an Ethernet to Wireless adaptor attached with a Receiver
> (via Ethernet port) to enable Receiver to work on 5GHz.
Right, thanks, I'd missed that. :(
kidstypike
LMS on Raspberry Pi 3/max2play
kidstypike wrote:
> I repeat all Squeezeboxen are 2.4 only?
>
> I could be wrong though. If someone who knows for sure could please
> confirm?
All SB hardware internal wifi only supports 2.4 but it seems the OP said
he is using an Ethernet to Wireless adaptor attached with a Receiver
(via Ether
Jim Holtz wrote:
> I was referring to the laptop connection to the network. Also, I have a
> Netgear Ethernet to dual band wireless adapter that I installed during
> troubleshooting so one of the Duet Receivers is on the 5 ghz band of my
> router.
>
> However, the test I ran with the laptop was
kidstypike wrote:
> Why do you mention 2.4 wireless, all Squeezeboxes are 2.4 only?
I was referring to the laptop connection to the network. Also, I have a
Netgear Ethernet to dual band wireless adapter that I installed during
troubleshooting so one of the Duet Receivers is on the 5 ghz band of
Jim Holtz wrote:
> I tested one of my Duets that had been skipping with the laptop I set up
> with LMS and it worked perfectly with a 2.4 wireless connection.
>
> This is merely speculation but I can't help but wonder if the Ethernet
> hardware on my very old Gigabyte mother board is malfunctio
I tested one of my Duets that had been skipping with the laptop I set up
with LMS and it worked perfectly with a 2.4 wireless connection.
This is merely speculation but I can't help but wonder if the Ethernet
hardware on my very old Gigabyte mother board is malfunctioning and
dropping packets oc
reinholdk wrote:
> Maybe any of the LMS logging settings for network.* or player.* could
> help detecting/confirming this?
> Don't know which to try, though.
The "connection reset" log message is a confirmation of a TCP network
problem. Wha tisn't confirmed is which what happened to cause closure
bpa wrote:
> In your case, the TCP connection is closed prematurely before the whole
> file has been sent to the player but LMS doesn't know that so it just
> tell player to play next item in playlist.
>
> A connection is closed prematurely usually due to network problems. The
> file is sent in
d6jg wrote:
> But did you reconfigure the Duet for wired connection when you did this
> ? If you didn't it would have been operating wirelessly but with a
> redundant cable plugged in.
>
> There are other diferences between a Touch & a Duet other than
> connection type as already mentioned. The
Jim Holtz wrote:
>
> During troubleshooting the issue, I did run Cat5 from the same
> connection the Touch uses on the router to the Duet and it still skipped
> tracks the same as when connected with WiFi. I think that should rule
> out a WiFi issue. What baffles me is the Touch works perfectly
One more thought. I've been running on 7.9 and was updating the nightly
builds frequently until I started troubleshooting the skipping issue. I
then installed a version from July that I "think" is solid. I have no
problem rolling back to 7.7 or 7.8 if they are proven to be stable and
relatively bu
I just thought of this. The one thing that hasn't changed during my
troubleshooting is the Duet power supply. Is there any chance that could
cause skips and log the same errors?
Jim
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bpa wrote:
> I'm pretty sure it's not the router per se. Routers cannot suddenly
> decide to take dislike to one class of device. I've had router slowly
> die on me which resulted in packets being lost but it affected all
> devices not just one type.
>
> The issue has to be considered within
Have you tried the Receiver wired ?
You have talked about changing wifi channels but not reported the
results of a wired test that I can see.
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Jim Holtz wrote:
> This is not a new system. I've had Squeezeboxes for many years and
> upgraded to a Duet system when they 1st came out. I later bought a 2nd
> receiver so I could have a system in my living room as well as my
> HT/listening room. During that time, I've had several routers from "
toby10 wrote:
> Age of the router should not matter. I use a nine year old stock
> Linksys basic router, only a/b/g capable. I stream full WAV's to four
> SqueezeBox players all over WiFi without a hicup. Your WiFi environment
> would be more likely the culprit, if that is even the problem.
O
Age of the router should not matter. I use a nine year old stock
Linksys basic router, only a/b/g capable. I stream full WAV's to four
SqueezeBox players all over WiFi without a hicup. Your WiFi environment
would be more likely the culprit, if that is even the problem.
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I had a few minutes to check out the changes I made in the router
tonight and it's still skipping. Baffling and frustrating!
Jim
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bpa wrote:
> At the moment you can't say specifically where the problem is and it is
> foolish to rule any part of the system out. So focussing on differences
> may help point to source of problem.
> As I understand it
> (i) the problem only occurs with files (i.e. finite TCP connection)
> E
Jim Holtz wrote:
> If I understand this correctly, this sounds like it's pointing at my
> router or possibly a problem with the built in ethernet on the mother
> board. What confuses me is my Touch which is hard wired works perfectly
> but the receiver when hard wired still skips. That doesn't ma
bpa wrote:
> When it was clear socketwrapper was being used for wav to flac and not
> resampling - it would have applied to Touch as well as Receiver so I
> felt it wasn't the answer to your problem.
>
> The explanation for the skipping is as follows. To play a file LMS tells
> a player to send
Jim Holtz wrote:
> (sigh)I thought changing the file type settings was the silver bullet
> but I'm still having the same issue. I've tried flac and native
> settings. For some reason flac causes it to skip very quickly while
> native will let me get through about 3 songs before it skips. I've
> n
(sigh)I thought changing the file type settings was the silver bullet
but I'm still having the same issue. I've tried flac and native
settings. For some reason flac causes it to skip very quickly while
native will let me get through about 3 songs before it skips. I've
noticed it always says the co
Jim Holtz wrote:
> What is the best setting in file types? Is native not the best choice?
"native" just means the player can play it without conversion.
So next what is "best". This is debatable.
In LMS terms of audio quality WAV and Flac are equivalent (no data
lost). If a player is sent
Ok, I actually set all the file types to play native and disabled the
other settings. Restarted the server and logging. It played perfectly so
far.
I looked through the logs and wav is being converted to PCM.
What is the best setting in file types? Is native not the best choice?
Thank you aga
Jim Holtz wrote:
> Interesting! These are just DB Power amp rips in wav format from
> standard 44.1 CD's. This makes me wonder if I need to change settings in
> the file type menu. Wav is set to play to native and flac/sox. I assumed
> it would always select the default of native when playing sta
bpa wrote:
> The log just happens to have character sequences (like :-) ) which get
> translated automatcally (by browser?) into an associated smiley.
>
> OK log shows resampling will happen to your wav file using flac and
> sox.
>
>
> If transcoding/resampling with socketwrapper is the root c
Jim Holtz wrote:
> I'm not sure why smiley faces are showing up in my server log file
> paste. Strange!
>
The log just happens to have character sequences (like :-) ) which get
translated automatcally (by browser?) into an associated smiley.
OK log shows resampling will happen to your wav file
I really appreciate your help!
Jim
[16-11-02 09:26:26.2760]
Slim::Player::StreamingController::playerStreamingFailed (2228)
00:04:20:16:56:e3
[16-11-02 09:26:26.2764]
Slim::Player::StreamingController::_playersMessage (789) Connection
reset by local host:
file:///C:/Users/jholtz/Music/CDDB/Blues
I'm not sure why smiley faces are showing up in my server log file
paste. Strange!
Jim
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Mike Sargent wrote:
> I don't know if this will help, but I have had my Touch (using Wi-Fi) do
> the "skip to next track early" thing on occasion. In my case, rebooting
> the Touch (pull the plug, wait 10 seconds, plug it back in) has always
> resolved the problem for me. I have never had to touc
I don't know if this will help, but I have had my Touch (using Wi-Fi) do
the "skip to next track early" thing on occasion. In my case, rebooting
the Touch (pull the plug, wait 10 seconds, plug it back in) has always
resolved the problem for me. I have never had to touch my LMS nor the
host server.
Jim Holtz wrote:
> I have the receiver connected with the Netgear Ethernet to WiFi adapter
> on the 5 Ghz. channel so the Direct TV modules shouldn't affect it.
If there any DLNA clients anywhere on your LAN (doesn't matter if there
are on different wireless or wired segments) and the LMS "uPNP/D
bpa wrote:
> You mentioned that "The Duet receiver is 2.4 and shares with 4 other
> direct TV devices. " TV which are network enabled are often DLNA
> clients.
>
>
>
> It is an executable (part of LMS in Bin directory) which is run by LMS
> to spawn processes needed for transcoding - such as
Jim Holtz wrote:
> I don't have any UPNP/DLNA devices as far as I know nor is a plugin
> activated for them.
You mentioned that "The Duet receiver is 2.4 and shares with 4 other
direct TV devices. " TV which are network enabled are often DLNA
clients.
> I have no idea what socketwrapper is or
Mnyb wrote:
> Stupid Q for everyone's sanity. Did you redo,the setup process for the
> reciever when connecting through Ethernet ?
> I'd does not use Ethernet just because you plug in the cable you have to
> do the network setup again choosing the wired connection .
Yep, sure did. I've switch co
bpa wrote:
> I haven't read through the thread in fullest detail but there are
> similarities with problems with BBCiPlayer plugin when playing on a
> Windows server to Touch and Recievers (streams to Receiver
> stuttered/restarted but Touch played OK) .
>
> With the BBciplayer plugin - the im
Stupid Q for everyone's sanity. Did you redo,the setup process for the
reciever when connecting through Ethernet ?
I'd does not use Ethernet just because you plug in the cable you have to
do the network setup again choosing the wired connection .
I haven't read through the thread in fullest detail but there are
similarities with problems with BBCiPlayer plugin when playing on a
Windows server to Touch and Recievers (streams to Receiver
stuttered/restarted but Touch played OK) .
With the BBciplayer plugin - the important issues were the
More troubleshooting updates.
I received the Netgear Dual Band Ethernet to WiFi adapter. I tried using
both 2.4 Ghz and 5 Ghz. with the same result. I left it on 5 Ghz since
there isn't any clutter on that band in my neighborhood.
I then bought 100' of cat5 cable and wired it direct. Same issue.
I've also ordered a Netgear dual band Ethernet to wireless adapter to
eliminate the built in wireless adapter in the Duet receiver. That'll
allow me to use the 5 Ghz. channel on my router. It may not help but it
won't hurt.
Jim
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get.amped wrote:
> I experienced a similar problem not long ago and it turned out to be a
> disk error. Check your Windows System Event Log to see if you have any
> disk issues the next time it happens.
That's a very good suggestion. I'll check it out.
Thank you!
Jim
I experienced a similar problem not long ago and it turned out to be a
disk error. Check your Windows System Event Log to see if you have any
disk issues the next time it happens.
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LMS 7.9.0 -> Logitech Squeezebox Classic V.
There is tread somewhere about moving the receivers antenna placement
someone found out that it is dodgy years after the product was produced
? It is apearently has worse wifi than it had to , it's not fantastic
but can be improved .
It can actually be on the brink of not functioning ( the wifi ca
.. and I'd still try my suggestion, swap out the Touch with the
Receiver temporarily. Make sure you direct the Receiver to use the Cat5
connection via the player menus.
If WiFi is the problem (which is odd based on the proximity and
environment of the Receiver) you may have to try a Powerlin
toby10 wrote:
> Meaning you have a second Duet playing fine on the same network? If yes
> try swapping the two Receivers locations.
>
> Try the troubled Receiver wired temporarily, see if that fixes the
> issue. If yes you know you have a WiFi issue.
>
> Changed to unused WiFi ch near by.
You don't use MP3's but try ripping one album as MP3 and see if that
plays through correctly on WiFi.
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