I am a long-time LMS user on Windows. Recently, I switched to Mac, and I
have a new M1 Mac Mini. This is my first time running LMS on a Mac, and
on Big Sur, and with the new M1 SoC. I am running LMS version 8.0.1, and
have been having major problems. I have already granted full disk access
to per
Doing a bit of research, seems there's an arm Perl installed:
file /usr/bin/perl5.18
/usr/bin/perl5.18: Mach-O universal binary with 2 architectures:
[x86_64:Mach-O 64-bit executable x86_64] [arm64e:Mach-O 64-bit
executable arm64e]
/usr/bin/perl5.18 (for architecture x86_64):Mach-O 64-bit ex
Doing a bit of research, seems there's an arm Perl installed:
Multiple versions, in fact. Not only 5.18.
Why does LMS force the use of Rosetta in start-server.sh?
First of all I wanted to get it working on the new Macs. And that was
the easiest way.
I tried to compile modules for the new
I am a long-time LMS user on Windows. Recently, I switched to Mac, and I
have a new M1 Mac Mini. This is my first time running LMS on a Mac, and
Thanks for getting here (though for the wrong reasons, of course :-)). I
was wondering about this combination...
on Big Sur, and with the new M1 So
Could you please post the output of the following command (run in a
terminal window):
Code:
$
/Library/PreferencePanes/Squeezebox.prefPane/Contents/server/slimserver.pl
--d_startup
Michael
"It doesn't work - what shall I do?" - "Please check y
mherger wrote:
> Could you please post the output of the following command (run in a
> terminal window):
>
> >
Code:
> > $
/Library/PreferencePanes/Squeezebox.prefPane/Contents/server/slimserver.pl
--d_startup
> >
The output was too long, so I'
Ok, I'm not surprised by this:
Code:
Can't load
'/Library/PreferencePanes/Squeezebox.prefPane/Contents/server/CPAN/arch/5.18/darwin-thread-multi-2level/auto/DBI/DBI.bundle'
for module DBI:
dlopen(/Library/PreferencePanes/Squeezebox.prefPane/Contents/server/CPAN/arch/
Oh, would Apple actually have thought of that use case? Please give the
following a try:
https://www.idownloadblog.com/2020/11/23/enforce-rosetta-emulation-tutorial/#How-to-force-a-Mac-app-to-use-Rosetta
Force using Rosetta on /usr/bin/perl5.18 - if that's even an option.
Michael
"It doesn'
mherger wrote:
> Oh, would Apple actually have thought of that use case? Please give the
> following a try:
>
> https://www.idownloadblog.com/2020/11/23/enforce-rosetta-emulation-tutorial/#How-to-force-a-Mac-app-to-use-Rosetta
>
> Force using Rosetta on /usr/bin/perl5.18 - if that's even an op
Force using Rosetta on /usr/bin/perl5.18 - if that's even an option.
Interesting idea, but I can't figure out how to do that. And from what
it says on that page, the option to force Rosetta is only available for
dual universal Intel + Apple Silicon apps.
In Finder you can "Go To...". Enter /us
mherger wrote:
> >> Force using Rosetta on /usr/bin/perl5.18 - if that's even an option.
> >
> > Interesting idea, but I can't figure out how to do that. And from
> what
> > it says on that page, the option to force Rosetta is only available
> for
> > dual universal Intel + Apple Silicon apps.
I also wanted to mention that when it was working, I was able to select
a media folder on the Library tab, LMS would start, and I was able to
listen to music on my SB Booms. But the Booms often had problems
connecting to the server, and then I had the issue where I was getting
the "Problem: can't
OK, I found it but the option is not available in the information panel.
Could you please send me a screenshot?
The fact that you've successfully run LMS for a moment is super
confusing. It's promising on the one hand, but doesn't really make sense
on the other... Because the errors you poste
In my case the server never started up and the prefs panel does not
fully work and I, obviously, get the same errors from perl. I tried
downloading LMS sources and compiling but that didn't work out either.
Perhaps LMS should be using something like cpan-requirements-file
(search stack overflow f
In my case the server never started up and the prefs panel does not
fully work and I, obviously, get the same errors from perl. I tried
That's what I would have expected. And now way to force Perl to use
Rosetta either?
downloading LMS sources and compiling but that didn't work out either.
mherger wrote:
>
> Could you please send me a screenshot?
>
I don't know if this is still helpful, but here is a screenshot of the
perl info panes.
32403
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|Filename: perl info panes.jpg
I don't know if this is still helpful, but here is a screenshot of the
perl info panes.
Thanks. Unfortunately it only proves what somebody mentioned before:
these executables aren't available as "fat" binaries supporting Rosetta
:-(. I need to get access to a M1 based system.
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Running perl like this seems to work, now I need to figure out how to
change the prefs panel to run this way:
arch -x86_64
/Library/PreferencePanes/Squeezebox.prefPane/Contents/server/slimserver.pl
--d_startup
azakkerman'
Running perl like this seems to work, now I need to figure out how to
change the prefs panel to run this way:
arch -x86_64
/Library/PreferencePanes/Squeezebox.prefPane/Contents/server/slimserver.pl
--d_startup
That's great news! Please check out
/Library/PreferencePanes/Squeezebox.prefPane/Con
mherger wrote:
> Try to put the arch command in front of the "./slimserver.pl --daemon
> " line.
>
I added the arch command as noted and was able to start LMS, add media
folders, and use my Boom players! Still getting "Problem: can't open
file" messages for some songs, but this is a big s
So the issue I am running into now is that sox is compiled for i386 and
not x86_64 (possibly other binaries as well) and macOS 11 no longer
supports 32-bit binaries. I tried installing sox via macports, but one
of the libraries it needs doesn't build yet. Will update the scripts as
per your direc
I added the arch command as noted and was able to start LMS, add media
folders, and use my Boom players!
Excellent! Now I'll have to find a way to define when that should be
added and when not. Would you mind sharing the output of the following
command with me?
/usr/sbin/system_profiler SPSo
So the issue I am running into now is that sox is compiled for i386 and
not x86_64 (possibly other binaries as well) and macOS 11 no longer
Hmm... it's there for x86_64:
Bin/darwin-x86_64/sox: Mach-O 64-bit executable x86_64
But maybe the search path is wrong. Please run slimserver.pl with
"-
mherger wrote:
> > I added the arch command as noted and was able to start LMS, add
> media
> > folders, and use my Boom players!
>
> Excellent! Now I'll have to find a way to define when that should be
> added and when not. Would you mind sharing the output of the following
> command with me
mherger wrote:
> > So the issue I am running into now is that sox is compiled for i386
> and
> > not x86_64 (possibly other binaries as well) and macOS 11 no longer
>
> Hmm... it's there for x86_64:
>
> Bin/darwin-x86_64/sox: Mach-O 64-bit executable x86_64
>
> But maybe the search path is wr
mherger wrote:
> > So the issue I am running into now is that sox is compiled for i386
> and
> > not x86_64 (possibly other binaries as well) and macOS 11 no longer
>
> Hmm... it's there for x86_64:
>
> Bin/darwin-x86_64/sox: Mach-O 64-bit executable x86_64
>
> But maybe the search path is wr
mherger wrote:
>
> > Still getting "Problem: can't open
> > file" messages for some songs, but this is a big step in the right
> > direction![/color]
>
> as azakkerman mentioned that's likely due to some missing transcoding
> helper. What file format would that be?
>
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> Michael
Impo
I think it is looking in
/Library/PreferencePanes/Squeezebox.prefPane/Contents/server/Bin/darwin/
instead of darwin-x86_64 because it thinks that this is not an x86_64
machine.
Correct! I should probably make x86_64 the default, as other hardware
hasn't been supported for a while now.
Anyway:
mherger wrote:
> > I think it is looking in
> >
> /Library/PreferencePanes/Squeezebox.prefPane/Contents/server/Bin/darwin/
> > instead of darwin-x86_64 because it thinks that this is not an x86_64
> > machine.
>
> Correct! I should probably make x86_64 the default, as other hardware
> hasn't b
The new build seems to be working, no more Preference pane errors and no
more "can't find file" errors. Playing M4A files OK.
Excellent! One more issue down...
Next up the startup scripts. That might be a bit harder to tackle.
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There are new 8.1 builds out there which should automatically set the
arch when starting LMS. Please give it a try!
Please note that this currently only works for the initial start, or
using the Start/Stop button in the pref-pane. It is not expected to work
with the startup items yet.
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Perhaps you can simply use the arch command to detect arm64 and set the
env variable?
bash % arch -h
Usage: arch
Display the machine's architecture type
Usage: arch {-arch_name | -arch arch_name} ... [-c] [-d envname] ... [-e
envname=value] ... [-h] prog [arg ...]
Run prog with any arguments, us
Perhaps you can simply use the arch command to detect arm64 and set the
env variable?
I'm using it to tell macOS how to run LMS already. Alas, the startup
items are little more complicated, as they don't use the same startup
script. Thus I'll have to either change them to use the script, or
m
mherger wrote:
> > Perhaps you can simply use the arch command to detect arm64 and set
> the
> > env variable?
>
> I'm using it to tell macOS how to run LMS already. Alas, the startup
> items are little more complicated, as they don't use the same startup
> script. Thus I'll have to either ch
The 8.1 update does seem to run (have not tested playback yet, though).
Thanks a lot for all your help!
Could you please give the latest nightly yet another try? And play with
the startup options (starting LMS at boot time, or when signing in
etc.)? I've modified the startup items to hopefully
mherger wrote:
> > The 8.1 update does seem to run (have not tested playback yet,
> though).
> > Thanks a lot for all your help!
>
> Could you please give the latest nightly yet another try? And play with
>
> the startup options (starting LMS at boot time, or when signing in
> etc.)? I've mod
Any news ?
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I finally got around to testing the latest build. It is not starting the
server on boot, I had to manually start it.
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I finally got around to testing the latest build. It is not starting the
server on boot, I had to manually start it.
Did you try all three options? What build are you using?
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dmw010 wrote:
> I finally got around to testing the latest build. It is not starting the
> server on boot, I had to manually start it.
>
> EDIT: start server on login *does* work, only start-on-boot is not
> working on Big Sur 11.1There is an edit.
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EDIT: start server on login *does* work, only start-on-boot is not
working on Big Sur 11.1
Hmm... that's interesting, as the two are basically identical. But it
will be difficult to investigate without a machine to play with...
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Sorry for this maybe silly question but where do I find LMS 8.1 which
allegedly works with M1. The latest I find in the download section is
8.0
Best
/Jan
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Sorry for this maybe silly question but where do I find LMS 8.1 which
allegedly works with M1. The latest I find in the download section is
8.0
http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/?ver=8.1
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mherger wrote:
> > Sorry for this maybe silly question but where do I find LMS 8.1 which
> > allegedly works with M1. The latest I find in the download section is
> > 8.0
>
> http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/?ver=8.1
>
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> Michael
Thanks Michael.
However this does not work for
jritsval wrote:
> Thanks Michael.
>
> However this does not work for me. I have a brand new MacBook Air with a
> M1 processor and 16 Gig of RAM. When I try to start LMS it tries to
> start for a second or so and then stops. It have never worked. Have all
> the symptoms described above.
>
> Sug
However this does not work for me. I have a brand new MacBook Air with a
M1 processor and 16 Gig of RAM. When I try to start LMS it tries to
start for a second or so and then stops. It have never worked. Have all
the symptoms described above.
Please run the following in a terminal window. Famous
mherger wrote:
> > However this does not work for me. I have a brand new MacBook Air with
> a
> > M1 processor and 16 Gig of RAM. When I try to start LMS it tries to
> > start for a second or so and then stops. It have never worked. Have
> all
> > the symptoms described above.
>
> Please run th
Ran the above one liner and got this response
I'm sorry, I forgot the most important part of it...
SETARCH="arch -x86_64"
/Library/PreferencePanes/Squeezebox.prefPane/Contents/server/slimserver.pl
--d_startup
We must tell it to use the x86_64 emulation (Rosetta). Have you run any
other x86
mherger wrote:
> > Ran the above one liner and got this response
>
> I'm sorry, I forgot the most important part of it...
>
> SETARCH="arch -x86_64"
> /Library/PreferencePanes/Squeezebox.prefPane/Contents/server/slimserver.pl
>
> --d_startup
>
> We must tell it to use the x86_64 emulation (
Do you know what the above means?
Yes: the wrong Perl is being used. Either wrong version (not Perl 5.18),
or wrong architecture.
What gives:
head -n1
/Library/PreferencePanes/Squeezebox.prefPane/Contents/server/slimserver.pl
And:
SETARCH="arch -x86_64" perl5.18 -V
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jritsval wrote:
> Yes I have Michael so I believe that Rosetta is installed. Still fail to
> load something that I cannot figure out what it is
>
> "The following modules failed to load: EV JSON::XS YAML::XS"
>
> And after this failure LMS exits.
>
> Do you know what the above means?
>
> Bes
Seems like I'm running Perl 5.28 on my Mac. Read somewhere that LMS only
runs on 5.18 and that Perl is nog backward compatible. Anyone that can
That's why I was wondering about slimserver.pl's head: it should
explicitely refer to perl5.18
confirm this is the problem? And how do I proceed wit
jritsval wrote:
> Seems like I'm running Perl 5.28 on my Mac. Read somewhere that LMS only
> runs on 5.18 and that Perl is nog backward compatible. Anyone that can
> confirm this is the problem? And how do I proceed with uninstalling and
> installing Perl?
> I have not, to my knowledge, installe
The solution is somewhat rude, but what you need to do is delete all
files from the LMS `lib` and `CPAN` folders for which an equally named
file exists in your system's Perl vendor path (for version 5.28 that
would typically be /usr/lib/perl/vendor_perl/5.28).
No, please don't recommend doing th
mherger wrote:
> > The solution is somewhat rude, but what you need to do is delete all
> > files from the LMS `lib` and `CPAN` folders for which an equally
> named
> > file exists in your system's Perl vendor path (for version 5.28 that
> > would typically be /usr/lib/perl/vendor_perl/5.28).
>
It seems like I have Perl 5.18, 5.28 and 5.30 installed on my HDD but
when typing Perl -v I get the respons 5.28. So there might be something
in it that LMS is picking the wrong version for some reason.
Please do the tests I posted in #50.
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mherger wrote:
> > It seems like I have Perl 5.18, 5.28 and 5.30 installed on my HDD but
> > when typing Perl -v I get the respons 5.28. So there might be
> something
> > in it that LMS is picking the wrong version for some reason.
>
> Please do the tests I posted in #50.
>
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> Michael
> So lets see if I understand you correctly Michael.
Great!
> I have added the line
Oops... nope, that's not what I wanted you to do :-).
Just run that command in a terminal:
Code:
SETARCH="arch -x86_64" perl5.18 -V
> At least that's how I int
Just run that command in a terminal:
Code:
SETARCH="arch -x86_64" perl5.18 -V
Code:
head -n1
/Library/PreferencePanes/Squeezebox.prefPane/Contents/server/slimserver.pl
I think you should start ove
Tried that. First command gave me a lot of info about Perl 5.18 and
Which was?...
running the second command just gave me
"#!/usr/bin/perl5.18"
Ok, that's good. This should make sure LMS is using Perl 5.18, none of
the others.
So no errors there. However the server does still not start.
mherger wrote:
> > Tried that. First command gave me a lot of info about Perl 5.18 and
>
> Which was?...
>
> > running the second command just gave me
> >
> > "#!/usr/bin/perl5.18"
>
> Ok, that's good. This should make sure LMS is using Perl 5.18, none of
> the others.
>
> > So no errors t
mherger wrote:
> > The solution is somewhat rude, but what you need to do is delete all
> > files from the LMS `lib` and `CPAN` folders for which an equally
> named
> > file exists in your system's Perl vendor path (for version 5.28 that
> > would typically be /usr/lib/perl/vendor_perl/5.28).
>
Ok thanks for the effort Michael but I think we're back to square one.
When trying to start LMS it stops with the following error message (a
bit longer but removed some...)
Can you tell me what exact package you installed? It looks to me as if
you didn't install a recent nightly 8.1 build.
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There's no harm in deleting static files that can be restored at will.
Like you say, if it works then great, if it doesn't then just reset and
try to find another solution.
I don't doubt you know what you're talking about. But it's little
helpful here, as I'm trying to understand why something
mherger wrote:
> > There's no harm in deleting static files that can be restored at
> will.
> > Like you say, if it works then great, if it doesn't then just reset
> and
> > try to find another solution.
>
> I don't doubt you know what you're talking about. But it's little
> helpful here, as I
Ok, let's try one single command:
Code:
arch -x86_64
/Library/PreferencePanes/Squeezebox.prefPane/Contents/server/slimserver.pl
--d_startup
And please post the full output. Thanks!
Michael
"It doesn't work - what shall I do?" - "Please check
mherger wrote:
> Ok, let's try one single command:
>
> >
Code:
> > arch -x86_64
/Library/PreferencePanes/Squeezebox.prefPane/Contents/server/slimserver.pl
--d_startup
> >
>
> And please post the full output. Thanks!
Tried to attach a file with
jritsval wrote:
> Tried to attach a file with the output. If that did not work then let me
> know and I will post id directly. One thing did not end up in the log
> and that is
>
> Can't open /Users/janritsvall/Library/Logs/Squeezebox/server.log
> (Permission denied) at
> /Library/PreferencePan
jritsval wrote:
> Hi all. Thanks for all work, especially Michael.
>
> The latest output led me to realize that a few files and folders had
> limited access. Since I am new to MacOS it took me a while to figure out
> how to change file mod. But after granting access to the log files LMS
> jumpe
The latest output led me to realize that a few files and folders had
limited access. Since I am new to MacOS it took me a while to figure out
how to change file mod. But after granting access to the log files LMS
jumped to life.
Yep, that's another too common issue on Mac. Sometimes the installe
Is there any plan to bring out LMS version that will run natively on M1
Big Sur ? What is the rough time schedule ?
I just got new M1 Mac Mini and now I have to figure out which version of
LMS should I install ... I would prefer to wait for a stable LMS version
which is natively running on M1 th
Is there any plan to bring out LMS version that will run natively on M1
Big Sur ? What is the rough time schedule ?
No plan so far. As Apple had announced the end of scripting on macOS a
while back, I was actually surprised to see Perl was still there on
these new machines... The pref pane pro
Thanks for the answer. I understand your point and I am going to follow
your advice as soon as you make 8.1 a stable version.
Just one remark ... Concerning MACs, we can expect in the future that M1
platform is going to be increasingly popular and that the number of M1
comps is going to grow whe
Just one remark ... Concerning MACs, we can expect in the future that M1
platform is going to be increasingly popular and that the number of M1
comps is going to grow whereas the number of MACs with Intel will
decrease. It is going to be a process but we will see how long it will
take that Intels
Apologies for resurrecting/hijacking this thread but I have a similar
issue in that my new M1 Mac mini 16GB RAM does not allow LMS to start.
Although new to Mac after over 12 years happily running my Logitech Duet
with 2 receivers (2 hifi installations within the property) on Windows,
I have read
Apologies for resurrecting/hijacking this thread but I have a similar
issue in that my new M1 Mac mini 16GB RAM does not allow LMS to start.
Ok, then we'll start with the same questions again... Open the terminal
and run:
/Library/PreferencePanes/Squeezebox.prefPane/Contents/server/slimserver
Michael, Thank you for your kind and patient advice on my issue. I input
your suggested command line entry with the following result:
If 8.1 is outdated by the time you read this, Replace "8.1" with the
major version
You should never need to do this if you're on Windows or Mac OSX. If the
instal
I'm sorry, my instruction wasn't complete. Should have been:
Code:
arch -x86_64
/Library/PreferencePanes/Squeezebox.prefPane/Contents/server/slimserver.pl
Michael
"It doesn't work - what shall I do?" - "Please check your server.log
and/or scann
Michael,
Thank you. Your amended command line instruction resulted in the
following response:
charlesatkinson@Charless-Mac-mini ~ % arch -x86_64
/Library/PreferencePanes/Squeezebox.prefPane/Contents/server/slimserver.pl
[21-02-05 10:05:35.2614] main::init (388) Starting Logitech Media Server
(v
Thank you. Your amended command line instruction resulted in the
following response:
charlesatkinson@Charless-Mac-mini ~ % arch -x86_64
/Library/PreferencePanes/Squeezebox.prefPane/Contents/server/slimserver.pl
[21-02-05 10:05:35.2614] main::init (388) Starting Logitech Media Server
(v8.1.1, 1610
Michael,
I am trying to run the Fix LMS Permissions App but my system says that I
do not have permission to run it, even though I am the administrator.
What should I do?
Yes I downloaded the LMS for Mac and I installed it. Saying that, I have
just deleted it from permissions and will try to rel
Sorry, should say deleted from Preferences and will attempt to reload
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Michael,
I got it to run using Automator but got the following error message:
Syntax Error
mkdir: /Volumes/T7/Moved: Operation not permitted
mkdir: User/charlesatkinson/Library/Logs/Squeezebox: Read-only file
system
chown: /Volumes/T7/Moved: No such file or directory
chown: User/charlesatkinson
This may be caused by (on original set up) my moving my User files from
the Macintosh HD (512 GB SSD) to a permanently connected Samsung T7 (1
TB SSD) in order to keep bulky music and photo files away from the OS
and Apps. I hope that I have not gone beyond what is permissible using
LMS.
Please
Michael,
I am now up and running with LMS and would like to explain how this was
achieved given that my user files (including my main music file) for my
personal log on are on a permanently connected external 1TB T7 SSD.
I always had a spare administrator account on the internal Macintosh SSD
I am sorry that I troubled you as my difficulty was due to lack of
experience on the Mac and Big Sur. You can be assured that LMS works
well with Apple Silicon.
Good to know! Enjoy the music!
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