Re: [Standards] communication context

2011-08-10 Thread Dave Cridland
On Wed Aug 10 03:01:20 2011, Matthew Wild wrote: That makes perfect sense, but I guess my mental block is... isn't that what PEP is for? +1 You're not engaged in a meeting on one client, but not on another, so I don't see the benefit of a presence/ stanza indicator here. Whereas #4 is

Re: [Standards] communication context

2011-08-10 Thread Ralph Meijer
On Tue, 2011-08-09 at 20:41 -0600, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: On 8/9/11 8:01 PM, Matthew Wild wrote: On 9 August 2011 20:19, Peter Saint-Andre stpe...@stpeter.im wrote: On 8/9/11 4:59 PM, Matthew Wild wrote: On 9 August 2011 18:53, Peter Saint-Andre stpe...@stpeter.im wrote: I've had

Re: [Standards] communication context

2011-08-10 Thread Dave Cridland
On Wed Aug 10 03:41:40 2011, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: I can't think of anything more appropriate for presence than communication context. As RFC 6121 says: Any extended content included in a presence stanza SHOULD represent aspects of an entity's availability for communication or

Re: [Standards] communication context

2011-08-10 Thread Alexander Holler
Am 10.08.2011 00:53, schrieb Peter Saint-Andre: I've had several conversations recently with folks who indicate that they'd like a presence extension for what we could call communication context -- basically a machine-readable version of some of the strings that go into thestatus/ element.

Re: [Standards] communication context

2011-08-10 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
On 8/10/11 2:31 AM, Dave Cridland wrote: On Wed Aug 10 03:41:40 2011, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: I can't think of anything more appropriate for presence than communication context. As RFC 6121 says: Any extended content included in a presence stanza SHOULD represent aspects of an

Re: [Standards] communication context

2011-08-10 Thread Kim Alvefur
On Wed, 2011-08-10 at 09:34 -0600, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: To my mind, PEP is for everything else -- tunes, activities, location, and other things that change more or less frequently than presence itself. (As I'm about to hit send, I've seen Ralph's note arrive - +1 to everything in

Re: [Standards] communication context

2011-08-10 Thread Dave Cridland
On Wed Aug 10 16:34:28 2011, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: (As I'm about to hit send, I've seen Ralph's note arrive - +1 to everything in that, Perhaps in rfc6121bis we should remove show/ and status/ then? ;-) Many of the usages we encounter with those are indeed unfortunate, in particular

[Standards] communication context

2011-08-09 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
I've had several conversations recently with folks who indicate that they'd like a presence extension for what we could call communication context -- basically a machine-readable version of some of the strings that go into the status/ element. Examples might include: 1. in-a-meeting (could be IRL

Re: [Standards] communication context

2011-08-09 Thread Matthew Wild
On 9 August 2011 18:53, Peter Saint-Andre stpe...@stpeter.im wrote: I've had several conversations recently with folks who indicate that they'd like a presence extension for what we could call communication context -- basically a machine-readable version of some of the strings that go into the

Re: [Standards] communication context

2011-08-09 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
On 8/9/11 4:59 PM, Matthew Wild wrote: On 9 August 2011 18:53, Peter Saint-Andre stpe...@stpeter.im wrote: I've had several conversations recently with folks who indicate that they'd like a presence extension for what we could call communication context -- basically a machine-readable version

Re: [Standards] communication context

2011-08-09 Thread Matthew Wild
On 9 August 2011 20:19, Peter Saint-Andre stpe...@stpeter.im wrote: On 8/9/11 4:59 PM, Matthew Wild wrote: On 9 August 2011 18:53, Peter Saint-Andre stpe...@stpeter.im wrote: I've had several conversations recently with folks who indicate that they'd like a presence extension for what we could

Re: [Standards] communication context

2011-08-09 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
On 8/9/11 8:01 PM, Matthew Wild wrote: On 9 August 2011 20:19, Peter Saint-Andre stpe...@stpeter.im wrote: On 8/9/11 4:59 PM, Matthew Wild wrote: On 9 August 2011 18:53, Peter Saint-Andre stpe...@stpeter.im wrote: I've had several conversations recently with folks who indicate that they'd