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message) before updating your source tree.
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&
they
> always fail for me:
> org.apache.struts.taglib.bean.TestCookieTag.testCookieTagNameMultiple
> -- I have to assume this is some kind of local configuration problem,
> but I'm not hanging. One day I hope to have time to figure out the
> problem, but I'm far from a Cac
versions that
> does this automatically. The Python version has undergone several
> versions to
> improve the copyright conversion. You might want to start there first.
Yes, I would also suggest going with the Python version. It's seen
considerably more usage, a
Please hold off on all checkins until the release is done.
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is new release strategy, where should the announcement
message go, since it's not a Final release? The same lists, or a subset?
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> Please hold off on all checkins until the release is do
On Mon, 23 Feb 2004, Ted Husted wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 22:38:24 -0800 (PST), Martin Cooper wrote:
> > Actually, with this new release strategy, where should the
> > announcement message go, since it's not a Final release? The same
> > lists, or a subset? Thoug
On Sun, 22 Feb 2004, Martin Cooper wrote:
> The release is built, but I have a couple of problems.
>
> 1) My ISP has gone flaky on me, and I haven't been able to upload it to
> minotaur. They claim the problems should be fixed tomorrow, so hopefully
> I'll be able to upl
e a look when I
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> I tried 1.2.0 in AppFuse and all tests pass! Nice work gents. I didn't
> even have to modify any files - my last Struts update was December 2,
> 2003.
>
> Matt
>
> > -Orig
us.
As for 1.2.0, I'd like to ask that people not change the build files until
I get it rebuilt with Struts-EL included (hopefully this evening), in case
I need to make changes there. However, you can consider the tree open for
other changes, to be included in 1.2.1 (i.e. please don't mo
know if they're OK. Hopefully, this one will be OK and
I can go ahead and announce it to both lists.
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> On Sun, 22 Feb 2004, Martin Cooper wrote:
>
> > The release is built, but I have a couple of problems.
> >
>
It's probably obvious by now, but just wanted to confirm that the CVS tree
is no longer frozen. Now we can get those pending commits dealt with. ;-)
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ch, but that's not a bad idea at all. I can't
think of a good reason to move tags, other than to tweak things as part of
the release process, and only the RM should be doing that.
Now, where can we document this? ;-)
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release.
Once feedback has been collected on the stability and general quality of
this build, a determination will be made as to whether it should be
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Struts.
Here's my +1 on the resolution as drafted, and my +1 for Craig as Vice
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> >Struts.
> >
> >Here's my +1 on the resolution as drafted, and my +1 for Craig as Vice
> >President.
>
> +1 for Struts as a top level project
> +1 for Craig as VP
>
> Please feel free to add my name to the cover letter.
Done. I
ass in Commons Collections. I
think this should do what you want.
http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/collections/apidocs/org/apache/commons/collections/list/LazyList.html
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> Following up on a brief thread on this list in December [1], Craig, Ted
> and I have put together a draft resolution to the board of directors [2],
> along with a cover letter [3], that would promote Struts to an Apache
> top-l
On Thu, 11 Mar 2004, Arron Bates wrote:
> Ooops, just missed it. :)
Not at all. I won't be sending the proposal to the board until the
weekend, so now that you've responded, you're in. :-)
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no strong feelings one way or another
Excellent. Now I don't have to modify the resolution at all. ;-)
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> From: Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 21:47:05 -0800 (PST)
> To: Struts
concerned.
Please find attached our proposed board resolution.
Submitted on behalf of the Struts community by:
Craig R. McClanahan
Ted Husted
Rob Leland
Cedric Dumoulin
Martin Cooper
Arron Bates
James Holmes
David M. Karr
David Graham
James Mitchell
Steve Raeburn
Don Brown
out driking Irish alcohol I was the first to
> see the email, and I got to be the whistle-blower. :)
Nah, you just type a little faster than I do. ;-)
I'll be putting together a list, shortly, of what needs to happen next for
us to fully "graduate". Stay tuned..
that several times before, and I don't want to
have to deal with it again.
So before we bring Struts Chain into the mainstream, Chain needs to be
promoted out of the sandbox and into Commons Proper, preferably in good
enough shape that it's not too far from being released. (Of course, the
l
(There are a lot of internal changes we'll want to
make as well, but I'm not trying to address those here.)
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On Sat, 20 Mar 2004, Mike Kienenberger wrote:
> Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Optional: Move to Jira (IMO, now's as good a time as any.)
>
> One thing I've noticed about Jira is that attachments cannot be deleted
> general developers, only member
he Gump team puts their own bylaws together:
http://wiki.apache.org/gump/Drafts/ProjectBylaws
It might be worth perusing for additional ideas. (I'm planning on doing
some perusing of it myself when I have some time.)
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On Thu, 18 Mar 2004, Ted Husted wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Mar 2
On Sat, 20 Mar 2004, Martin Cooper wrote:
> The following is a set of proposed changes to the Apache infrastructure to
> accommodate the Struts move to an Apache top level project. The idea is to
> come up with a single agreed-upon set of changes that we can submit to the
> infrastr
ase its market share, but because Struts works for
us, and we care to put in the time and effort to maintain and further
develop it. The fact that it has become sufficiently popular to turn into
a de facto standard is nice, but that's secondary to (most of) us, and not
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I suspect there will be difficulties if
> we decide to split up what has been a single repository (jakarta-struts) into
> per-subpackage repositories. A guru on CVS would definitely be useful here.
A CVS repo rename will preserve all of our history, obviously. After that,
I can take care of
On Sat, 20 Mar 2004, Craig R. McClanahan wrote:
> Miscellaneous comments intermixed.
>
> Quoting Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> > The following is a set of proposed changes to the Apache infrastructure to
> > accommodate the Struts move to an Apache top
s, and it's not going to go away
> > any time soon. That being said, however, it's time for Struts to start doing
> > some more innovation instead of incremental improvements, in order to remain as
> > popular for new development.
> >
>
> That is my poin
gacy', since the latter has a more negative connotation, in my mind at
least. But I won't make a big deal of it if other people prefer 'legacy'.
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> We were already getting ready to change things around. And we *do* need to move
> things
On Sun, 21 Mar 2004, Martin Cooper wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Mar 2004, Ted Husted wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 21 Mar 2004 00:07:28 -0800, Steve Raeburn wrote:
> > > Option 1 works for me. Simplest thing that could possibly work. As
> > > you've said, we can always chan
On Sun, 21 Mar 2004, Craig R. McClanahan wrote:
> Quoting Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> > On Sun, 21 Mar 2004, Ted Husted wrote:
> >
> > > On Sun, 21 Mar 2004 00:07:28 -0800, Steve Raeburn wrote:
> > > > Option 1 works for me. Simplest thin
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se with which you can just type
'maven' and have everything happen.)
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> Fra: Joe Germuska [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sendt: 22. mars 2004 15:28
> Til: Struts Developers List
> Emne: Making Struts B
ot;rationalized". (First things first!)
I'd be open to it, but I think we have a lot of things we'd want to do to
get our own house in order before we actually take action on this. I also
think it might be a tricky issue in some respects. For example, we'll be
fac
at other people have seen the same
thing, and that it's sometimes associated with trying to stop Tomcat when
it's already stopped. Any ideas on how to fix this would be most welcome.
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> Current status:
>
> 41: All tes
On Mon, 22 Mar 2004, Craig R. McClanahan wrote:
> Quoting Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> > On Mon, 22 Mar 2004, Ted Husted wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 11:36:37 -0700, Matt Raible wrote:
> > > > While it's great to break out thing
or removing modules. This
is something I did in a project about a year ago, very successfully, so I
think it's worth adding to the Struts core.
In a similar vein, I'd like to talk about separating out the config
reading som
l be points in time that we'll want to label or branch
the entire code base, which will be easier to do across a single module.
So, there are pros and cons both ways, of course. Now we just need to
make a decision and move on it. ;-)
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> My only feeling is that should w
On Tue, 23 Mar 2004, Martin Cooper wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Mar 2004, Craig R. McClanahan wrote:
>
> > Quoting Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> > > On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 11:53:55 +0100, Filippo Munafò wrote:
> > > > Perfect! What you did in JSF
ting
> a vote.
>
> The Resources thing has been a longtime coming and should be stable. I wouldn't
> hesitate to do both Resources and Struts Chain in the HEAD now.
I'm OK with Chain being promoted as is, but I'd prefer to see Resources
migrate to a presence-based bui
On Wed, 24 Mar 2004, Craig R. McClanahan wrote:
> Quoting Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> > On Tue, 23 Mar 2004, Martin Cooper wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, 23 Mar 2004, Craig R. McClanahan wrote:
> > >
> > > > Quoting Ted Husted <[EMAIL
On Wed, 24 Mar 2004, Ted Husted wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 20:52:03 -0800 (PST), Martin Cooper wrote:
> > So, there are pros and cons both ways, of course. Now we just need
> > to make a decision and move on it. ;-)
>
> The consensus seems to be to use a single module with
On Wed, 24 Mar 2004, Ted Husted wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 11:03:58 -0800 (PST), Martin Cooper wrote:
> > Actually, contrary to your comment in the "Counting down" thread, I
> > don't have anything up my sleeve (unless I forgot something
> > myself). ;-) I
couple of ways:
* Start from http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsProjectPages.
* Go to the front page and click on OrphanedPages.
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able to them. Hopefully that will change this year, and we'll find nearly
> everyone has finally found the budget to upgrade.
Upgrading the container, though, is only half the story. That will allow
the developers to use newer technologies in new parts of the application,
but doesn't
m reluctant to believe it's a simple matter of editing the
> patch file. Should I then have a seperate CVS tree for each patch -
> which only contains changes relevant to a given bug? (Man - that's a
> nasty solution, but it's the best one I can come up with! That&#
ing is for. Branching is used to maintain
multiple versions of the code in the CVS repository. What Eddie is trying to
do is create diffs for patches to the code. You wouldn't want to be making
changes to the repository just to prepare patch files.
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FYI, there's a cool CVS QuickRef here:
http://www.refcards.com/
Only the Cederqvist will give you the full scoop, but I find this 'card'
handy when I can't remember the option I want. (Brain rot, you know :)
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a more general discussion of
how Struts in general, and the module concept in particular, can be expanded
to address peoples' needs.
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:
"A method is not required to declare in its throws clause any subclasses of
RuntimeException that might be thrown during the execution of the method but
not caught."
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> Sent: Tuesday,
e was
created for backwards compatibility with the old file name.
Apparently, though, the two files are *not* the same. The newer one is
tiles-config_1_1.dtd. Hopefully Cedric can fill us in on the differences.
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n, struts application generator).
You mean Karapan Sapi. I haven't looked at this tool yet, and didn't realise
it generated properties files. It doesn't seem to mention this on the web
site (although I may well have missed it).
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> Mark
>
Now I know it's Friday. ;-)
> -Original Message-
> From: James Turner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 12:40 PM
> To: Struts Developers List
> Subject: Re: [Resources] XMLMessageResources and Proposal
>
>
> At 03:33 PM 10/11/2002, Antoni Reus wrote:
> >A Diven
t I am working through, so I'm
> nowhere close to being finished.
>
> If I complete this, is it feasible to add it to sandbox
> resources or struts?
> If not, then I will drop it and work on other issues (pending
> Struts bugs).
There was a brief discussion on whether or not we
The new version of getValidatorResources() added here takes a ServletContext
and an HttpServletRequest. It seems to me that it should only take the
request, since the servlet context can be obtained from that. It would be a
little less error-prone this way, too.
My 2 cents.
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It seems to me that the Validator plugin should be using the same mechanism
as ActionServlet. However, someone more class loader savvy than I am (e.g.
Craig :) may want to weigh in on this.
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leave for James and his 20 Yen. :)
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> Subject: [Policy on depreciation vs deleting new Struts 1.1 methods.]
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gt;
>
>
> On Fri, 11 Oct 2002, Martin Cooper wrote:
>
> > Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 15:56:37 -0700
> > From: Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Reply-To: Struts Developers List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 'Struts Developers List' <[EM
hehe ...
's OK. It's dead now. ;-)
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> >On Sat, 12 Oct 2002, Martin Cooper wrote:
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> >>Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 10:26:07 -0700
> >>From: Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>Reply-To:
e non-indexed case.
The 'property' attribute always names the corresponding request parameter
coming back to the server. The 'name' attribute, however, is only used to
find the initial value, whether it's to be looked up on the form bean, or
some other named bean. It is not
tag supports full i18n and is still easy to
use, this would be a very handy tag.
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> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 5:52 PM
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>
>
> I im
, but which do not expose all of the attributes, so that they conform
to the spec.
Now, if we could get XDoclet to handle that... ;-)
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> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 7:22 AM
> To: '
27; where 'nn' is 32, 40 or 41. All we need is a
'test.tomcat.33' that works against Tomcat 3.3.1. ;-)
Seriously, though, it would be great to get this working.
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ecture in Struts 1.1 was created in part to
address this issue. Instead of using two separate front controllers, you
simply create two separate modules.
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ch other.
> Since we're still "finding our feet" with respect to exactly "what
> modules mean to folks" (ie how are people *really* going to
> use them?),
> I think the best route is to get everything cleanly seperated
> this round
> - and save any furthe
1.1 working with
Tomcat 3.2.4. Both Craig and I looked at this before, and we decided it was
probably a Tomcat class loader bug. But someone else might figure out a way
to work around it.
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> -
throw new UnssuportedOperationException();
> }
>
> to build the tests. Otherwise the build complains
>
> MockServletContext.java should be abstract
You must be building against a Servlets 2.3 API. The getResourcePaths()
method is new for Servlets 2.3. If you try building
configs (for each module) -- to match what we do with the
> tiles and validator configurations? If for no other
> reason, than because we should be providing a consistent
> approach across components.
Would I veto adding new functionality in a second beta that everyone is
waiting for a fina
didn't think through all the issues.
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> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 11:44 AM
> To: Struts Developers List
> Subject: Re: Tiles Refactorings for 1.1 compatability
>
>
> Ted Husted
+1
(No offense, Eddie - if your vote had come up now, I'da +1'd it too. :)
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> Subject: [VOTE] David G
to be able to add their own application
specific rules and usage criteria.
Again IMO, a better way to solve this kind of problem is to use an 'extends'
or 'depends' mechanism to pull one set of criteria in from another.
Therefore, personally, I'd prefer not to proliferate th
; in the other order, actionB will
fail. An interesting one to debug...
At the very least, the config reading code would need to be modified to
throw an exception whenever a duplicate entry of any type was encountered.
That would alleviate most of the problem, but would still leave the door
open
efore any code
changes happened. Depending on the scale/impact of the change, that's
sometimes more appropriate.
Sometimes it's just a judgement call, too. If you think you might be forced
to back out all your changes, you might think differently about committing
them first than if your c
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 3:51 PM
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> Subject: RE: Tiles Refactorings for 1.1 compatability
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, 16 Oct 2002, Martin Cooper w
nfusing to people if we aren't consistent ourselves, so I
think we need to make the decision here, and then all evangelise the
selected terminology on both lists.
So, are they modules, or are they sub-apps?
My personal preference is modules, but I'm capable of typing either when
necessary. :
One other point I neglected to mention, which may actually make the question
moot at this point:
We use $M to denote the current module in forward URLs. If we choose the
term sub-apps, we'd have to explain why we use $M as the abbreviation...
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> -Original Message-
> From: Peter A. J. Pilgrim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 6:35 PM
> To: Struts Developers List
> Subject: Re: Terminology: modules versus sub-apps
>
>
> Martin Cooper wrote:
> > I think it's abo
bably deprecate the
template library in favour of Tiles in the 1.1 release, with a view to
supporting only Tiles in future releases.
(Sorry, I didn't mean for this to turn into a history lesson. :)
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configurations. I do know teams that
> use this sort of approach to customize a single applications
> for various clients and also to provide role-based
> views.
>
> Perhaps as an adjunct to Steve's roadmap we can open
> documents where we can start to enumerate the various
expect that it will be included as a contrib
taglib in the Struts 1.1 release. This is very cool stuff.
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> From: Karr, David [mailto:david.karr@;attws.com]
> Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 9:48 AM
> To: 'Struts Developers List'
te the TLD, couldn't we? ... if we're
> moving ... (maybe put it in o.a.s.v.t.html? It might get
> lonely there
> though ...)
Ugh. -0. That's just going to confuse people (including ourselves,
probably). Let's just leave it where it is, so that all the code fo
> -Original Message-
> From: Robert Leland [mailto:rleland@;apache.org]
> Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 9:36 AM
> To: Struts Developers List
> Subject: Moving/deprecated of StrutsValidator & StrutsValidatorUtil
>
>
> It seems like StrutsValidatorUtil & StrutsValidator really
> belong
e on Windows, tkdiff gives you a nice side-by-side coloured diff.)
To create a patch, you need to edit the file anyway, and then diff between
what you edited and what's in CVS. Now that you're a committer, you don't
need to
n into browser version issues is corporations
which require the use of a specific browser by all employees. I suspect,
though, that most companies have progressed at least to 4.x browsers.
But then there's always Opera, Lynx, et al, to think about.
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> Dave
>
>
o nothing, so your base properties file is useless.
>
> Perhaps it might be useful to add checks in the build script
> for whether it
> finds a "build.properties" file, and emits a warning if it
> does not? It's
> something, at least.
If you use verbose/debug, it will tell you e
gt; > build. I don't know whether this matters.
> >
>
> It sure does matter if you want struts-el in the nightly builds :-).
Not to mention the release... ;-)
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> Craig
>
> > > 2. Leave them 'as is' and
fort to convert Struts to be buildable by Maven.
I'm torn about the timing. On the one hand, I would also like to see a Maven
1.0 release before we start, not least because the documentation is
currently lacking, to say the least. On the other hand, I'd hate to see a
Maven 1.0 that was
ust
always output XHTML, or is there a difference that I'm missing between
generating XML-compliant HTML and generating XHTML?
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t lost,
so I think it's reasonable to have additional comments - especially
rationale for fixing or not fixing - collected there too.
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er to see this in a 2.0 rather
than a 1.2, because we'd be breaking backwards compatibility with earlier
1.x apps. Emitting either, though, controlled by the 'xhtml' attribute,
would be fine in a 1.x - even 1.1.
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> > David
>
> Craig
>
>
&g
+1
Not sure about Fridays, though... ;-)
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> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 1:33 PM
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>
> James
specified as "POST", not "post".
Please change this back.
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Martin Cooper
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> jakarta-str
Unless I'm mistaken, this commit has not yet been reverted. James (H), can
you take care of that, please?
Thanks.
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Martin Cooper
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#x27;t heard from him in a while. What gives?
I don't know what happened to David W - we haven't heard from him in a while
(on the list, at least). James Turner, on the other hand, is going great
guns to get Commons Validator fixed up and released. We're almost there.
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Martin C
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> > Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 18:06:31 -0700
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