Roughly one year ago, I had mentioned on this 'Mailing List' that
our local Educational Authority would not permit us to install an
interactive 'analemmatic' sundial on our school playground - since
their opinion was that it was simply too dangerous, for children !
It now seems that other countri
Did any of the schools ever mention what the danger is of an
analemmatic sundial?
Thibaud
At 16:19 15-5-2012, Martina Addiscott wrote:
Roughly one year ago, I had mentioned on this 'Mailing List' that
our local Educational Authority would not permit us to install an
interactive 'analemmatic' s
I remember this discussion a year or so ago (maybe more?)
A dialist in Australia explained that the school argued that the children would
be tempted to spend too much time in the sun because of the dial.
In another part of this discussion, perhaps in the UK, someone mentioned that
the school wor
Dear Martina,
I still remember your previous message!
The world is crazy!
In Germany I have heard in a radio transmission last year, parents went
to a lawyer after there children fell over a tree root while walking
with the class on a public path through a forest
and private forest
owners
Those are utter rediculous reasons for not having an analemmatic sundial at school. Do these schools have no control or supervision over their students? It is great to get students outside to learn. Many people learn better by hands-on-learning. I had planned to make an analemmatic sundia
It has little or nothing to do with controlling the students, or even concern
over their welfare. It all comes down to liability.
Should some child be injured in a schoolyard scuffle, or 20 years later develop
a skin cancer, some shyster lawyer WILL find a way to hold the school
responsible!
Dear Reinhold,
You write...
Create a wall of shame with lots
of funny comments...
Your story is full of drama. There is
good news...
...Herr Kriegler sei der beste Lehrer an
der Schule...
Then the bad news...
...da hatte dieser Satz die Wirkung eines
Stichs in ein Wespennest.
So
Those are utterly ridiculous reasons for not having an analemmatic sundial at
school. Do these schools have no control or supervision over their students?
It is great to get students outside to learn. Many people learn better by
hands-on-learning. I had planned to make an analemmatic sun
In message
"Reinhold Kriegler" wrote:
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> Dear Martina,
>
> I still remember your previous message!
>
>
> The world is crazy!
>
>
> In Germany I have heard in a radio transmission last year, parents went
> to a lawyer after there children fell over a tree root while walking
> w
"Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain." ~ Friedrich Schiller
Ciao.
Gian
>Messaggio originale
>Da: martina.addisc...@gmail.com
>Data: 15/05/2012 19.23
>A:
>Ogg: Re: Why are schools, across the world,'banning' analemmatic
sundials ?
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>In message
> "Reinhol
Martina
Gian is quite right. But one must try… So you need a strategy to overcome the
stupidity. Why not recommend to your school the superb Mac Oglesby Beam & Spar
dial (equiangular - so correctable for summer time and EoT!). This is designed
for boy scouts/girl guides and involves ropes (child
Hello friends,
Last Saturday I repainted the analemmatic sundial I installed a few
years ago outside the west entrance to my town's Municipal Center.
You can see the lower parts of the doors in the background. (The
cones and tapes were removed on Sunday.)
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3688834/Sun
Hi Kevin,
Just to set the record straight, the original
"Beam & Spar" dial was designed and constructed
by Bill Maddux. He was one of my early mentors
and later we collaborated (along with Fer de
Vries) on several sundial articles. Bill passed
away in 2004. In his memory, at the NASS 2007
Never heard of a Beam and Spar Sundial. Do you have a picture and
descriptio.
Tom Laidlaw
-Original Message-
From: Mac Oglesby
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 1:35 PM
To: Kevin Karney
Cc: Sundial List
Subject: Re: Why are schools, across the world, 'banning'
analemmaticsundials ?
Hi K
I had to look this one up, found what I assume is the same under "Rope &
Spar sundial".
What a great idea!
I didn't have time (while at work) to figure out the details described of
how the spar is aligned to a particular angle, though. If it was level, and
true East-West aligned (and maybe that's
Hi Dave,
Bill Maddux's article is in Compendium vol 9 no 1, March, 2002, pp. 16-23.
Here's a screen shot of one of his constructions, from that article:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3688834/Maddux%20cord%20and%20spar%20dial.png
You can see a model by Fer de Vries at:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3688
I abhor the "Nanny State" and its consequences on individual freedom,
personal responsibility and creative learning opportunities. Yesterday we
watched a couple of girls climbing a tree. They were well out on a limb and
enjoying the experience. Good for them. There is hope for the future.
In
I know nothing about the Beam and Spar Sundial but I do know when the sun
over the yardarm, the bar is open.
Regards, Roger Bailey
--
From: "Tom Laidlaw"
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 5:50 PM
To: "Kevin Karney" ; "Mac Oglesby"
Cc: "Sundial List"
S
Oh dear!
I've just thought that the sundial I have designed and delivered for the
Silver section of the Great British Garden very close to the main stadium
in the Olympic Park in London might be considered too much of a hazard for
the athletes who might be tempted to check their watches by it. They
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