Re: NNTP problems to authenticated hosts continue

2009-12-06 Thread Bill Davidsen
chicagofan wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: chicagofan wrote: That's strange, because these [below] were the instructions I received by e-mail, after I wrote them about my connection problems after the changeover from Motzarella. These instructions cleared up my problem: It will connect with or wi

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2009-11-26 Thread chicagofan
Bill Davidsen wrote: chicagofan wrote: That's strange, because these [below] were the instructions I received by e-mail, after I wrote them about my connection problems after the changeover from Motzarella. These instructions cleared up my problem: It will connect with or without auth (but no

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2009-11-25 Thread Bill Davidsen
chicagofan wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: chicagofan wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: In hopes of someone having a clue where 'elsewhere' might be I put up the screenshots. I think it points to an error inside SM2 that this happens only on this server which doesn't demand authentication, and one othe

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2009-11-24 Thread chicagofan
Bill Davidsen wrote: chicagofan wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: In hopes of someone having a clue where 'elsewhere' might be I put up the screenshots. I think it points to an error inside SM2 that this happens only on this server which doesn't demand authentication, and one other similar (non-publi

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2009-11-24 Thread Bill Davidsen
chicagofan wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: NoOp wrote: I do notice in your http://www.tmr.com/~davidsen/Private/E-S_post_bug_SM2/SS-es-1.jpg that your outgoing server is: localhost (Default). Do you actually expect to post to news.ethernal-september.org via 'localhost (Default)'? NNTP<=> SMTP,

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2009-11-23 Thread chicagofan
Bill Davidsen wrote: NoOp wrote: I do notice in your http://www.tmr.com/~davidsen/Private/E-S_post_bug_SM2/SS-es-1.jpg that your outgoing server is: localhost (Default). Do you actually expect to post to news.ethernal-september.org via 'localhost (Default)'? NNTP<=> SMTP, SMTP is mail, used

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2009-11-16 Thread NoOp
On 11/16/2009 01:07 PM, NoOp wrote: > On 11/16/2009 09:06 AM, Hartmut Figge wrote: >> Bill Davidsen: >> >>>Before I go through all that, why would that give better results than >>>installing >>>Linux on a new machine, installing SeaMonkey, creating a new normal user >>>account >>>(had to do al

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2009-11-16 Thread NoOp
On 11/16/2009 09:06 AM, Hartmut Figge wrote: > Bill Davidsen: > >>Before I go through all that, why would that give better results than >>installing >>Linux on a new machine, installing SeaMonkey, creating a new normal user >>account >>(had to do all that anyway), then creating an e-s account.

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2009-11-16 Thread Hartmut Figge
Bill Davidsen: >Before I go through all that, why would that give better results than >installing >Linux on a new machine, installing SeaMonkey, creating a new normal user >account >(had to do all that anyway), then creating an e-s account. That will even be better. Hartmut _

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2009-11-16 Thread Bill Davidsen
Hartmut Figge wrote: Bill Davidsen: I think I've said several times, I monitored the network interface with tcpdump, and no packets were passed, OK. the UA SM. rejected the request with the message seen, "Check your config" SM refuses to send with this message. which is correct, at l

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2009-11-14 Thread Hartmut Figge
Bill Davidsen: >I think I've said several times, I monitored the network interface with >tcpdump, >and no packets were passed, OK. >the UA SM. >rejected the request with the message seen, "Check your config" SM refuses to send with this message. >which is correct, at least for other server

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2009-11-14 Thread Bill Davidsen
Hartmut Figge wrote: Bill Davidsen: Does this extra information give anyone a clue? You should really provide a log of what happens between SM2 and eternal when you try to post. One possibility is ngrep. Another one is https://wiki.mozilla.org/MailNews:Logging I think I've said several times

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2009-11-14 Thread Bill Davidsen
NoOp wrote: On 11/13/2009 06:04 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: ... You can only post to groups in e-s unless you are registered and authenticate. After that you can post anywhere, as you can from any other server. Perhaps you missed: news://news.mozilla.org:119/0a2dnru7gpw-1mhxnz2dnuvz_qsdn...@moz

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2009-11-13 Thread Hartmut Figge
NoOp: >news://news.mozilla.org:119/0a2dnru7gpw-1mhxnz2dnuvz_qsdn...@mozilla.org One caveat. A link in this form is OK for people which are subscribed to news.mozilla.org. But they have not to be subscribed there when accessing this NG. And clicking on this link would create an account of news.mo

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2009-11-13 Thread NoOp
On 11/13/2009 06:04 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: ... > > You can only post to groups in e-s unless you are registered and > authenticate. > After that you can post anywhere, as you can from any other server. > Perhaps you missed: news://news.mozilla.org:119/0a2dnru7gpw-1mhxnz2dnuvz_qsdn...@mozilla

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2009-11-13 Thread Bill Davidsen
NoOp wrote: On 11/11/2009 04:27 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote: NoOp: On 11/11/2009 03:30 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote: NoOp: I do notice in your http://www.tmr.com/~davidsen/Private/E-S_post_bug_SM2/SS-es-1.jpg that your outgoing server is: localhost (Default). Do you actually expect to post to news.eth

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2009-11-13 Thread Hartmut Figge
Bill Davidsen: >Does this extra information give anyone a clue? You should really provide a log of what happens between SM2 and eternal when you try to post. One possibility is ngrep. Another one is https://wiki.mozilla.org/MailNews:Logging Hartmut ___

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2009-11-13 Thread Bill Davidsen
NoOp wrote: On 11/11/2009 02:51 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: I have put my full config up as screen shots: http://www.tmr.com/~davidsen/Private/E-S_post_bug_SM2/ Note that SeaMonkey sends *no packets* to the NNTP host, other than "always offer auth" my working server definitions, those without

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2009-11-12 Thread NoOp
On 11/11/2009 06:42 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote: > NoOp: >>On 11/11/2009 04:27 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote: > >>> Look here. >>> http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/et091112.png (21 KB) >> >>What you fail to provide is the screenshot for the outgoing server. > > Because it doesn't matter for this case.

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2009-11-11 Thread Hartmut Figge
NoOp: >On 11/11/2009 04:27 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote: >> Look here. >> http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/et091112.png (21 KB) > >What you fail to provide is the screenshot for the outgoing server. Because it doesn't matter for this case. But here it is. http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/et0

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2009-11-11 Thread NoOp
On 11/11/2009 04:27 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote: > NoOp: >>On 11/11/2009 03:30 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote: >>> NoOp: > I do notice in your http://www.tmr.com/~davidsen/Private/E-S_post_bug_SM2/SS-es-1.jpg that your outgoing server is: localhost (Default). Do you actually expect to post to

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2009-11-11 Thread NoOp
Hartmut Figge wrote: NoOp: On 11/11/2009 03:30 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote: NoOp: I do notice in your http://www.tmr.com/~davidsen/Private/E-S_post_bug_SM2/SS-es-1.jpg that your outgoing server is: localhost (Default). Do you actually expect to post to news.ethernal-september.org via 'localhost

Re: NNTP problems to authenticated hosts continue

2009-11-11 Thread Hartmut Figge
NoOp: >On 11/11/2009 03:30 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote: >> NoOp: >>>I do notice in your >>>http://www.tmr.com/~davidsen/Private/E-S_post_bug_SM2/SS-es-1.jpg that >>>your outgoing server is: localhost (Default). Do you actually expect to >>>post to news.ethernal-september.org via 'localhost (Default)'?

Re: NNTP problems to authenticated hosts continue

2009-11-11 Thread NoOp
On 11/11/2009 03:30 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote: > NoOp: > >>I do notice in your >>http://www.tmr.com/~davidsen/Private/E-S_post_bug_SM2/SS-es-1.jpg that >>your outgoing server is: localhost (Default). Do you actually expect to >>post to news.ethernal-september.org via 'localhost (Default)'? > > But

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2009-11-11 Thread Hartmut Figge
NoOp: >I do notice in your >http://www.tmr.com/~davidsen/Private/E-S_post_bug_SM2/SS-es-1.jpg that >your outgoing server is: localhost (Default). Do you actually expect to >post to news.ethernal-september.org via 'localhost (Default)'? But that's for SMTP and not NNTP. :) Hartmut ___

Re: NNTP problems to authenticated hosts continue

2009-11-11 Thread NoOp
On 11/11/2009 02:51 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: > I have put my full config up as screen shots: >http://www.tmr.com/~davidsen/Private/E-S_post_bug_SM2/ > > Note that SeaMonkey sends *no packets* to the NNTP host, other than > "always offer auth" my working server definitions, those without auth

Re: NNTP problems to authenticated hosts continue

2009-11-11 Thread Hartmut Figge
Bill Davidsen: >I have put my full config up as screen shots: > http://www.tmr.com/~davidsen/Private/E-S_post_bug_SM2/ Almost identical to my setup for this newsserver. Normally i am using albasani and eternal is a reserve - hm, hopefully this is the correct English term *g* - so the boxes for

NNTP problems to authenticated hosts continue

2009-11-11 Thread Bill Davidsen
I have put my full config up as screen shots: http://www.tmr.com/~davidsen/Private/E-S_post_bug_SM2/ Note that SeaMonkey sends *no packets* to the NNTP host, other than "always offer auth" my working server definitions, those without auth needed, are identical. I have "Fails for me" about 2