Mike Easter wrote:
f=f behavior comes in several levels of implementation as seen in a
number of news agents.
-1- post original content with trailing spaces
-2- honor the existing trailing spaces in quoted material
-3- stamp f=f properly in the header
SM is performing 1 and 3 but not 2,
Sun, 25 Sep 2011 23:02:18 -0700, /Mike Easter/:
Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:
Mike Easter:
I'm trying to talk about SeaMonkey's problem here. I only mention
that the same problem exists in Tb3 but not other Tbirds because I
tho't that information might help someone in SeaMonkey's
development.
Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:
Mike Easter:
See my results in moz.test. I may be wrong about the 'fixed'.
Your test using Thunderbird 7:
news://news.mozilla.org/5ckdnu-1uc4cjh3tnz2dnuvz_j2dn...@mozilla.org
shows all trailing spaces in quoted content stripped.
This problem is much more
Sun, 25 Sep 2011 23:25:26 -0700, /Mike Easter/:
Now I'm even more puzzled by some, at least one, SM posts which I
see which do not demonstrate the stripping.
Could you give a reference to it?
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Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:
Sun, 25 Sep 2011 23:25:26 -0700, /Mike Easter/:
Now I'm even more puzzled by some, at least one, SM posts which I
see which do not demonstrate the stripping.
Could you give a reference to it?
Does not demonstrate the quoted spaces problem:
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011
...@sbcglobal.net.invalid
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:7.0) Gecko/20110923
Firefox/7.0 SeaMonkey/2.4
Subject: Re: SM format=flowed is incomplete
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Message-ID: niidnu7jbp3lb-ltnz2dnuvz_j2dn...@mozilla.org
news://news.mozilla.org
-0700
From: NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net.invalid
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:7.0) Gecko/20110923
Firefox/7.0 SeaMonkey/2.4
Subject: Re: SM format=flowed is incomplete
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Message-ID: niidnu7jbp3lb-ltnz2dnuvz_j2dn...@mozilla.org
news
2011 20:33:10 -0700
From: NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net.invalid
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:7.0) Gecko/20110923
Firefox/7.0 SeaMonkey/2.4
Subject: Re: SM format=flowed is incomplete
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Message-ID: niidnu7jbp3lb-ltnz2dnuvz_j2dn...@mozilla.org
news
: Sun, 25 Sep 2011 20:33:10 -0700
From: NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net.invalid
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:7.0) Gecko/20110923
Firefox/7.0 SeaMonkey/2.4
Subject: Re: SM format=flowed is incomplete
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Message-ID: niidnu7jbp3lb-ltnz2dnuvz_j2dn
WLS wrote:
Mike Easter wrote:
Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:
Could you give a reference to it?
Here's a paradox:
I see bars for quoted material when I read posts and , , and in
this reply for the quotes.
Isn't format=flowed supposed to change the to bars? Kind of old but,
WLS wrote:
Haven't seen any on the other end of the lines that I can recall in SM
2.3.3, but that clears up my confusion immensely.
Maybe a screen shot of his problem would help.
Rather than a screenshot, here are two interesting messages in mozilla.test.
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 08:39:35
Mon, 26 Sep 2011 08:31:06 -0700, /Mike Easter/:
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 09:22:28 +0300
From: Stanimir Stamenkov s7a...@netscape.net
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:9.0a1)
Gecko/20110926 Firefox/9.0a1 SeaMonkey/2.6a1
Newsgroups: mozilla.test
Subject: Re: f=f
Content-Type:
Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:
/Mike Easter/:
It looks to me like Stanimir has implemented some kind of patch or
alpha version of SM 2.6a1 to reply to his post with Tb 8.0a2.
In any case, it looks like SM 2.6a1 can properly implement f=f
replies and retain the trailing spaces in the quoted
On 09/25/2011 09:31 PM, Mike Easter wrote:
NoOp wrote:
BTW: this reply is using:
mailnews.display.disable_format_flowed_support;true
mailnews.send_plaintext_flowed;false
For sake of this 'investigation'...
Could you please set your send_plaintext_flowed to true instead of false
and also
NoOp wrote:
Mike Easter wrote:
Could you please set your send_plaintext_flowed to true instead of false
and also compose/post something with one or more 'normal' longer
paragraphs
Now that you are configured to f=f, your SM did the 'opposite' of f=f by
stripping off the trailing spaces in
Sat, 24 Sep 2011 15:39:28 -0700, /Mike Easter/:
Tb 3.x, I forget exactly which version, was (also) stripping quoted
trailing spaces, but they fixed it.
Maybe the SM volunteers can benefit from the Tb experience.
Hm, are you sure Thunderbird 3+ has the problem fixed?
On 09/24/2011 05:22 PM, Philip Chee wrote:
On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 18:30:01 -0500, Mike Easter wrote:
chicagofan wrote:
David Wilkinson wrote:
Mike Easter wrote:
It appears to me that SM's implementation of format=flowed is partially
broken, like that of an earlier Tb 3's.
I do use SM,
On 09/25/2011 07:55 AM, Mike Easter wrote:
Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:
Mike Easter:
Tb 3.x, I forget exactly which version, was (also) stripping quoted
trailing spaces, but they fixed it.
Maybe the SM volunteers can benefit from the Tb experience.
Hm, are you sure Thunderbird 3+ has the
On 09/25/2011 07:05 PM, NoOp wrote:
...
Why do you keep asking this when you are posting with:
User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (X11/20100623)
I've reset am responding with:
mailnews.display.disable_format_flowed_support;false
mailnews.send_plaintext_flowed;true
Any difference on your
NoOp wrote:
Mike Easter is using:
User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (X11/20100623)
Correct; but I also could post here with Tb 7 or Tb 3.1.15, all of which
I have tested. I have also observed the posting characteristics of a lot
of SeaMonkey versions, which is what this thread is about. The
On 09/25/2011 08:17 PM, Mike Easter wrote:
NoOp wrote:
Mike Easter is using:
User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (X11/20100623)
Correct; but I also could post here with Tb 7 or Tb 3.1.15, all of which
I have tested. I have also observed the posting characteristics of a lot
of SeaMonkey
NoOp wrote:
Mike Easter wrote:
I also have (just now) Tb 3.1.15 on an XP system and Tb 7.0 on a Mint 11
system. I just tested 3.1.15 and it *still* has the 'deficiency' of
which I speak, namely stripping the trailing spaces on quoted material.
Why do you keep asking this when you are
On 09/25/2011 08:32 PM, Mike Easter wrote:
NoOp wrote:
Mike Easter wrote:
I also have (just now) Tb 3.1.15 on an XP system and Tb 7.0 on a Mint 11
system. I just tested 3.1.15 and it *still* has the 'deficiency' of
which I speak, namely stripping the trailing spaces on quoted material.
NoOp wrote:
On 09/25/2011 08:32 PM, Mike Easter wrote:
NoOp wrote:
Mike Easter wrote:
I also have (just now) Tb 3.1.15 on an XP system and Tb 7.0 on a Mint 11
system. I just tested 3.1.15 and it *still* has the 'deficiency' of
which I speak, namely stripping the trailing spaces on quoted
NoOp wrote:
Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:7.0) Gecko/20110923
Firefox/7.0 SeaMonkey/2.4
BTW: this reply is using:
mailnews.display.disable_format_flowed_support;true
mailnews.send_plaintext_flowed;false
It appears that the/your SM 2.4 is *not* stripping the trailing
Mike Easter wrote:
NoOp wrote:
mailnews.send_plaintext_flowed;false
If your settings were set with send_plaintext_flowed false, then you
wouldn't be posting with f=f, but you are, because your headers say so
and because you are not stripping the trailing spaces.
I was mistaken; your
NoOp wrote:
BTW: this reply is using:
mailnews.display.disable_format_flowed_support;true
mailnews.send_plaintext_flowed;false
For sake of this 'investigation'...
Could you please set your send_plaintext_flowed to true instead of false
and also compose/post something with one or more
On Sun, 25 Sep 2011 20:32:28 -0700, Mike Easter wrote:
NoOp wrote:
Mike Easter wrote:
I also have (just now) Tb 3.1.15 on an XP system and Tb 7.0 on a Mint 11
system. I just tested 3.1.15 and it *still* has the 'deficiency' of
which I speak, namely stripping the trailing spaces on quoted
Philip Chee wrote:
Mike Easter wrote:
I'm trying to talk about SeaMonkey's problem here.
In case I wasn't clear I'll say this again. The code that controls
format flowed in in 100% shared code with Thunderbird. Any improvements
to Thunderbird in this regard should automatically be picked
Sun, 25 Sep 2011 20:32:28 -0700, /Mike Easter/:
I'm trying to talk about SeaMonkey's problem here. I only mention
that the same problem exists in Tb3 but not other Tbirds because I
tho't that information might help someone in SeaMonkey's development.
And that's what I was trying to point out
It appears to me that SM's implementation of format=flowed is partially
broken, like that of an earlier Tb 3's.
f=f behavior comes in several levels of implementation as seen in a
number of news agents.
-1- post original content with trailing spaces
-2- honor the existing trailing spaces
Mike Easter wrote:
It appears to me that SM's implementation of format=flowed is partially
broken, like that of an earlier Tb 3's.
I don't currently use SM, but I'm interested in it. Tb's current level
of f=f support (including a rewrapping function even without restoration
or preseration of
David Wilkinson wrote:
Mike Easter wrote:
It appears to me that SM's implementation of format=flowed is partially
broken, like that of an earlier Tb 3's.
I don't currently use SM, but I'm interested in it. Tb's current level
of f=f support (including a rewrapping function even without
David Wilkinson wrote:
Mike Easter wrote:
It appears to me that SM's implementation of format=flowed is partially
broken, like that of an earlier Tb 3's.
I don't currently use SM, but I'm interested in it. Tb's current level
of f=f support (including a rewrapping function even without
chicagofan wrote:
David Wilkinson wrote:
Mike Easter wrote:
It appears to me that SM's implementation of format=flowed is partially
broken, like that of an earlier Tb 3's.
I do use SM, but the absence of your items 2 and 4 is a major source of
irritation to me.
I love SM, and deeply
On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 18:30:01 -0500, Mike Easter wrote:
chicagofan wrote:
David Wilkinson wrote:
Mike Easter wrote:
It appears to me that SM's implementation of format=flowed is partially
broken, like that of an earlier Tb 3's.
I do use SM, but the absence of your items 2 and 4 is a
Interviewed by CNN on 24/09/2011 21:22, Philip Chee told the world:
The only other source of difference are the default preferences for
format flowed which may be different in SeaMonkey.
Hmmm... there IS a reason to disable format flowed; it's called
OpenPGP. Format flowed kills OpenPGP
MCBastos wrote:
Interviewed by CNN on 24/09/2011 21:22, Philip Chee told the world:
The only other source of difference are the default preferences for
format flowed which may be different in SeaMonkey.
Hmmm... there IS a reason to disable format flowed; it's called
OpenPGP. Format flowed
WLS wrote:
MCBastos wrote:
Philip Chee told the world:
there IS a reason to disable format flowed;
Ok, I just disabled it. Now what happens?
Currently the 3 attributed posters above all have disabled f=f posting.
In that configuration, SM does not stamp f=f in the header, does not put
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