Re: new 2.3

MCBastos wrote: I'm using Win7 x64 and had *no* problems with the update This was my experience. I did notice a couple oddities like the right-click menu going full screen height. But the speed improvement in the email windows alone was worth it for me. Some of the louder people on the list

Re: new 2.3

Pat Connors a écrit : Okay, I just got home after a week away and see there is another new version of SM. I am still on 2.0.14 and didn't update to 2.2 because of all the complaints. Now we have 2.3 and more complaints. I really don't know what to do. I like the version I am using. I am using Win

Re: new 2.3

Interviewed by CNN on 01/08/2011 15:31, Pat Connors told the world: > Okay, I just got home after a week away and see there is another new > version of SM. I am still on 2.0.14 and didn't update to 2.2 because of > all the complaints. Now we have 2.3 and more complaints. I really > don't know

Re: new 2.3

A.Nonny Mouse wrote: On 2011-08-08 10:17, sean nathan bean wrote: Pat Connors sent me the following:: Okay, I just got home after a week away and see there is another new version of SM. I am still on 2.0.14 and didn't update to 2.2 because of all the complaints. Now we have 2.3 and more complain

Re: new 2.3

On 2011-08-08 10:17, sean nathan bean wrote: Pat Connors sent me the following:: Okay, I just got home after a week away and see there is another new version of SM. I am still on 2.0.14 and didn't update to 2.2 because of all the complaints. Now we have 2.3 and more complaints. I really don't kno

Re: new 2.3

On Aug 5, 3:17 am, "Justin Wood (Callek)" wrote: > >>> Okay, I just got home after a week away and see there is another new > >>> version of SM. I am still on 2.0.14 and didn't update to 2.2 because of > >>> all the complaints. Now we have 2.3 and more complaints. I really don't > >>> know what t

Re: Radical change in topic. Now a newsreader Q. was (Re: new 2.3 - Firefox updates too often

On 11-08-12 12:06 AM, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Chris Ilias wrote: I removed it. See . Do you mean that you censored, removed, deleted, PhillipJones' article fro

Re: new 2.3 - Firefox updates too often

On 08/12/2011 07:56 AM, MCBastos wrote: > Interviewed by CNN on 12/08/2011 00:34, NoOp told the world: > >> Thank goodness you don't use FoxNews... > > I chose CNN for maximum recognition both here in Brazil and abroad. > FoxNews is available on cable here, but it's still pretty obscure -- > nobo

Re: Radical change in topic. Now a newsreader Q. was (Re: new 2.3 - Firefox updates too often

Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: The link you provide above takes me to a google groups login page. All my tries to retrieve previous articles by clicking on Message-IDs or the numbers assigned them in the References: lis

Re: new 2.3 - Firefox updates too often

Interviewed by CNN on 12/08/2011 00:34, NoOp told the world: > Thank goodness you don't use FoxNews... I chose CNN for maximum recognition both here in Brazil and abroad. FoxNews is available on cable here, but it's still pretty obscure -- nobody I know watches it. Their political rhetoric doesn'

Re: Radical change in topic. Now a newsreader Q. was (Re: new 2.3 - Firefox updates too often

NoOp wrote: On 08/11/2011 08:02 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Chris Ilias wrote: On 11-08-11 12:37 PM, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Looking at this posting, I see that there was a follow up posting by PhillipJones to my cynical posting "I wish I could writhe ... ... poop

Re: Radical change in topic. Now a newsreader Q. was (Re: new 2.3 - Firefox updates too often

Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Chris Ilias wrote: On 11-08-11 12:37 PM, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Looking at this posting, I see that there was a follow up posting by PhillipJones to my cynical posting "I wish I could writhe ... ... pooper scooper brigade". But I can not fi

Re: Radical change in topic. Now a newsreader Q. was (Re: new 2.3 - Firefox updates too often

Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: The link you provide above takes me to a google groups login page. All my tries to retrieve previous articles by clicking on Message-IDs or the numbers assigned them in the References: list are directed by SM to th

Re: Radical change in topic. Now a newsreader Q. was (Re: new 2.3 - Firefox updates too often

Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Chris Ilias wrote: On 11-08-11 12:37 PM, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Looking at this posting, I see that there was a follow up posting by PhillipJones to my cynical posting "I wish I could writhe ... ... pooper scooper brigade". But I can not fi

Re: new 2.3 - Firefox updates too often

On 08/11/2011 07:10 PM, MCBastos wrote: > Interviewed by CNN on 11/08/2011 16:42, Keith Whaley told the world: >> MCBastos wrote: >>> Interviewed by CNN on 10/08/2011 16:45, Justin Wood (Callek) told the >>> world: PhillipJones wrote: >> >> [...] >> >> I strongly suspect he wasn't interviewe

Re: Radical change in topic. Now a newsreader Q. was (Re: new 2.3 - Firefox updates too often

On 08/11/2011 08:02 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: > Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: >> Chris Ilias wrote: >>> On 11-08-11 12:37 PM, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Looking at this posting, I see that there was a follow up posting by PhillipJones to my cynical posting "I wish I could writhe ... ... >>>

Re: Radical change in topic. Now a newsreader Q. was (Re: new 2.3 - Firefox updates too often

Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Chris Ilias wrote: On 11-08-11 12:37 PM, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Looking at this posting, I see that there was a follow up posting by PhillipJones to my cynical posting "I wish I could writhe ... ... pooper scooper brigade". But I can not find PhillipJoness' posting

Re: new 2.3 - Firefox updates too often

Interviewed by CNN on 11/08/2011 16:42, Keith Whaley told the world: > MCBastos wrote: >> Interviewed by CNN on 10/08/2011 16:45, Justin Wood (Callek) told the >> world: >>> PhillipJones wrote: > > [...] > > I strongly suspect he wasn't interviewed by CNN, and in the end, he > didn't email the w

Re: new 2.3 - Firefox updates too often

Keith Whaley wrote: MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 10/08/2011 16:45, Justin Wood (Callek) told the world: PhillipJones wrote: [...] I strongly suspect he wasn't interviewed by CNN, and in the end, he didn't email the world. All he did was to email somebody on this list. Somewhat compl

Re: Radical change in topic. Now a newsreader Q. was (Re: new 2.3 - Firefox updates too often

Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Chris Ilias wrote: On 11-08-11 12:37 PM, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Looking at this posting, I see that there was a follow up posting by PhillipJones to my cynical posting "I wish I could writhe ... ... pooper scooper brigade". But I can not find PhillipJoness' posting

Re: Radical change in topic. Now a newsreader Q. was (Re: new 2.3 - Firefox updates too often

Chris Ilias wrote: On 11-08-11 12:37 PM, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Looking at this posting, I see that there was a follow up posting by PhillipJones to my cynical posting "I wish I could writhe ... ... pooper scooper brigade". But I can not find PhillipJoness' posting at Mozilla News. It used to

Re: new 2.3 - Firefox updates too often

MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 10/08/2011 16:45, Justin Wood (Callek) told the world: PhillipJones wrote: [...] I strongly suspect he wasn't interviewed by CNN, and in the end, he didn't email the world. All he did was to email somebody on this list. Somewhat complicated at times, bu

Re: Radical change in topic. Now a newsreader Q. was (Re: new 2.3 - Firefox updates too often

On 11-08-11 12:37 PM, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Looking at this posting, I see that there was a follow up posting by PhillipJones to my cynical posting "I wish I could writhe ... ... pooper scooper brigade". But I can not find PhillipJoness' posting at Mozilla News. It used to be that clicking on

Radical change in topic. Now a newsreader Q. was (Re: new 2.3 - Firefox updates too often

Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: PhillipJones wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 09/08/2011 21:18, Rufus told the world: ...it was a suggestion for a *new* SM product from the *SM* team because someone posed a question - and not even that particular product, it

Re: new 2.3 - Firefox updates too often

MCBastos schrieb: Then, the third thing: Webkit is a smaller, more focused project than Gecko. Nowadays, even that is a myth. While Webkit doesn't understand all the same standards as full as Gecko does, it grew its own networking library etc. over time because they learned the same lessons M

Re: new 2.3 - Firefox updates too often

MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 10/08/2011 16:45, Justin Wood (Callek) told the world: PhillipJones wrote: Rather than being locked into Firefox running itself into the ground and following suit. I suggest the developers at SeaMonkey say goodbye to Mozilla and switch to web-kit engine. Th

Re: new 2.3 - Firefox updates too often

Interviewed by CNN on 10/08/2011 16:45, Justin Wood (Callek) told the world: > PhillipJones wrote: >> Rather than being locked into Firefox running itself into the ground and >> following suit. I suggest the developers at SeaMonkey say goodbye to >> Mozilla and switch to web-kit engine. Then you ca

Re: new 2.3 - Firefox updates too often

PhillipJones wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 09/08/2011 21:18, Rufus told the world: ...it was a suggestion for a *new* SM product from the *SM* team because someone posed a question - and not even that particular product, it's an *example*...crap, can't

Re: new 2.3 - Firefox updates too often

Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 09/08/2011 21:18, Rufus told the world: ...it was a suggestion for a *new* SM product from the *SM* team because someone posed a question - and not even that particular product, it's an *example*...crap, can't anybody around here

Re: new 2.3 - Firefox updates too often

MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 09/08/2011 21:18, Rufus told the world: ...it was a suggestion for a *new* SM product from the *SM* team because someone posed a question - and not even that particular product, it's an *example*...crap, can't anybody around here think *conceptually*? ...

Re: new 2.3 - Firefox updates too often

MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 09/08/2011 21:18, Rufus told the world: ...it was a suggestion for a *new* SM product from the *SM* team because someone posed a question - and not even that particular product, it's an *example*...crap, can't anybody around here think *conceptually*? ...

Re: new 2.3 - Firefox updates too often

Interviewed by CNN on 09/08/2011 21:18, Rufus told the world: > ...it was a suggestion for a *new* SM product from the *SM* team because > someone posed a question - and not even that particular product, it's an > *example*...crap, can't anybody around here think *conceptually*? ...are you sugg

Re: new 2.3

Interviewed by CNN on 09/08/2011 12:31, PhillipJones told the world: > Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: > Okay if that's the case here is one for you . I tried the 2.3.b3 the > other day. Just to see if there was improvement. > Well PDF still doesn't work though all my plugins work except the one > for

Re: new 2.3 - Firefox updates too often

Robert Kaiser wrote: Rufus schrieb: Someone asked for an example of how the SM team could generate some actual revenue...this is one way No, because it's not a product of the SeaMonkey team, but of the Firefox-related teams. It would be their revenue, and they don't need it. Robert Kaiser

Re: new 2.3

Chris Ilias wrote: On 11-08-07 9:42 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: WLS wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: I'm only saying what I've read here from authoritative sources; the only addition is my judgment "half-baked," which reflects many of the opinions voiced here. If you don't like it, speak to

Re: new 2.3

On 11-08-07 9:42 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: WLS wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: I'm only saying what I've read here from authoritative sources; the only addition is my judgment "half-baked," which reflects many of the opinions voiced here. If you don't like it, speak to the merits of the a

Re: new 2.3

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: Mon, 08 Aug 2011 14:27:03 -0400, /Rostyslaw Lewyckyj/: MCBastos wrote: First of all, I reject the premise that FF would be "churning half-baked products". This is simply not true. In fact, it has been argued that the new rapid-release schedule IMPROVES quality, since

Re: new 2.3 - Firefox updates too often

Rufus schrieb: Someone asked for an example of how the SM team could generate some actual revenue...this is one way No, because it's not a product of the SeaMonkey team, but of the Firefox-related teams. It would be their revenue, and they don't need it. Robert Kaiser -- Note that any stat

Re: [OT WebGL + older hardware[ Re: new 2.3

Mon, 08 Aug 2011 19:19:34 -0700, /NoOp/: But the point remains as to why newer "services" such as WebGL et al require newer hardware. Hm, unless I'm missing something WebGL in Mozilla requires just newer drivers (software not provided by Mozilla): https://wiki.mozilla.org/Blocklisting https

Re: new 2.3

On 08/08/2011 06:54 PM, Robert Kaiser wrote: > NoOp schrieb: >> Thanks. I suspect that is the issue (linux). Same problem on a 2 year >> old laptop w/Intel Mobile GM45... I'll run out and buy a new laptop >> tomorrow so I can experience all the wonders of WebGL :-) > > As I said in my post, under

Re: new 2.3 - Firefox updates too often

Robert Kaiser wrote: Rufus schrieb: 99 cent price point for i-apps which augment SM on the iOS platform - cha-ching! If they still want to give the suite away for free, they can still do that. But i-apps and complementary add-ons? Sell away - biz model 2.0! Note that this is not done by the SM

[OT WebGL + older hardware[ Re: new 2.3

On 08/08/2011 06:48 PM, Robert Kaiser wrote: > NoOp schrieb: >> The driver is the latest for that card. > > Blame nVidia for being customer-unfriendly and stopping to support your > card in newer drivers. > > Robert Kaiser > I do. Examples:

Re: new 2.3 - Firefox updates too often

Rostyslaw Lewyckyj schrieb: And how soon the bugs are eliminated :-) Right now bugs, misfeatures, introduced in SM 2.1 are projected to be possibly corrected in 2.5. Them's the new development rules. True, we are fixing bugs all the time and releasing every six week to deliver the fixes to use

Re: new 2.3

NoOp schrieb: Thanks. I suspect that is the issue (linux). Same problem on a 2 year old laptop w/Intel Mobile GM45... I'll run out and buy a new laptop tomorrow so I can experience all the wonders of WebGL :-) As I said in my post, under Linux the card may not the problem, Mozilla's support fo

Re: new 2.3

Paul B. Gallagher schrieb: You must've expected when you made the decision, or at least you know now, that lots of users are unhappy with versions 2.1 and 2.2 and have been complaining about bugs, broken and lost features, etc. Note that 1) the 2.1 release was not part of the fast release cycle

Re: new 2.3

NoOp schrieb: The driver is the latest for that card. Blame nVidia for being customer-unfriendly and stopping to support your card in newer drivers. Robert Kaiser -- Note that any statements of mine - no matter how passionate - are never meant to be offensive but very often as food for tho

Re: new 2.3

Rostyslaw Lewyckyj schrieb: So how many weeks of pure debugging and actual test suite testing did SM 2.1 receive (in addition to testing by the FF and TB team testing? Too little automated testing, we need more tests to be written and are happy about people doing those, feel free to contribute

Re: new 2.3 - Firefox updates too often

Robert Kaiser wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj schrieb: What's relevant is not their naming but their frequency and buggines! Right, and SeaMonkey matches Firefox both in frequency as well as mostly in how few bugs it has, though SeaMonkey tends to have a bit more of those than Firefox recently. Stil

Re: new 2.3

On 08/08/2011 09:43 AM, Robert Kaiser wrote: > Daniel schrieb: >> SeaMonkey 2.2.Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:5.0) >> Gecko/20110706 SeaMonkey/2.2 >> >>[...] >> >> Under Graphics, the only thing I have listed is "GPU Accelerated >> Windows" with the value "0/3" > > That's normal f

Re: new 2.3

On 08/07/2011 09:44 PM, Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: > NoOp wrote: ... >> Same as Daniel. >> >> Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:6.0) Gecko/20110731 >> Firefox/6.0 SeaMonkey/2.3 >> >> From about:support >> >> Graphics >> >> Adapter DescriptionNVIDIA Corporation -- Quadro4

Re: new 2.3

Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: And how about repairing in 2.2 bugs discovered after release in 2.1? And in 2.3 repairing bugs from 2.1 and/or 2.2? (There have, I admit, promises to repair in 2.4 or later, some problems introduced in 2.1 :-) ) I'm sure you're capable of reading, no? How about reading

Re: new 2.3

Mon, 08 Aug 2011 14:27:03 -0400, /Rostyslaw Lewyckyj/: MCBastos wrote: First of all, I reject the premise that FF would be "churning half-baked products". This is simply not true. In fact, it has been argued that the new rapid-release schedule IMPROVES quality, since each release goes through t

Re: new 2.3

MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 07/08/2011 21:29, Paul B. Gallagher told the world: MCBastos wrote: But, the thing is, with limited resources available, supporting those old releases means that the new release does not receive as much work as it needs. With Seamonkey tied to the every-si

Re: new 2.3

Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: MCBastos wrote: But, the thing is, with limited resources available, supporting those old releases means that the new release does not receive as much work as it needs. With Seamonkey tied to the every-six-weeks Mozilla release schedule, d

Re: new 2.3

Paul B. Gallagher wrote: WLS wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: I'm only saying what I've read here from authoritative sources; the only addition is my judgment "half-baked," which reflects many of the opinions voiced here. If you don't like it, speak to the merits of the argument. You need not

Re: new 2.3

Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: MCBastos wrote: But, the thing is, with limited resources available, supporting those old releases means that the new release does not receive as much work as it needs. With Seamonkey tied to the every-six-weeks Mozilla release schedule, delay

Re: new 2.3

Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: Sun, 07 Aug 2011 20:29:22 -0400, /Paul B. Gallagher/: As our parents used to ask, "If everyone else jumped off a cliff, would you do it, too?" Just because the FF people decided to rush things and churn out a series of half-baked products for

Re: new 2.3

WLS wrote: The Mozilla Foundation is leading the development of a better Internet. http://www.mozilla.org/about/mission.html http://www.mozilla.org/about/manifesto By its' own claims and pronouncements! Just because you don't like it, don't spread misinformation. ___

Re: new 2.3

Paul B. Gallagher wrote: MCBastos wrote: But, the thing is, with limited resources available, supporting those old releases means that the new release does not receive as much work as it needs. With Seamonkey tied to the every-six-weeks Mozilla release schedule, delaying release is not an optio

Re: new 2.3

Pat Connors sent me the following:: Okay, I just got home after a week away and see there is another new version of SM. I am still on 2.0.14 and didn't update to 2.2 because of all the complaints. Now we have 2.3 and more complaints. I really don't know what to do. I like the version I am using.

Re: new 2.3

Daniel schrieb: SeaMonkey 2.2.Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110706 SeaMonkey/2.2 [...] Under Graphics, the only thing I have listed is "GPU Accelerated Windows" with the value "0/3" That's normal for Linux right now, the hardware acceleration code for Linux is s

Re: new 2.3

Ed Mullen schrieb: What is unacceptable is that the user can no longer set his/her own values for toolkit.zoomManager.zoomValues. 1) SeaMonkey never allowed to set custom values for the list of available zoom levels before, that was a Firefox-only feature until recently. 2) Newer SeaMonkey

Re: new 2.3 - Firefox updates too often

On 8/8/2011 12:27 PM Robert Kaiser submitted the following: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj schrieb: What's relevant is not their naming but their frequency and buggines! Right, and SeaMonkey matches Firefox both in frequency as well as mostly in how few bugs it has, though SeaMonkey tends to have a bit mo

Re: new 2.3 - Firefox updates too often

Rostyslaw Lewyckyj schrieb: What's relevant is not their naming but their frequency and buggines! Right, and SeaMonkey matches Firefox both in frequency as well as mostly in how few bugs it has, though SeaMonkey tends to have a bit more of those than Firefox recently. Still, the all-volunteer

Re: new 2.3 - Firefox updates too often

Rufus schrieb: 99 cent price point for i-apps which augment SM on the iOS platform - cha-ching! If they still want to give the suite away for free, they can still do that. But i-apps and complementary add-ons? Sell away - biz model 2.0! Note that this is not done by the SM team and no money wou

Re: new 2.3 - Firefox updates too often

Robert Kaiser wrote: PhillipJones schrieb: The original post meant SeaMonkey. It didn't. FF is up to 5.6.7.8 or whatever. SM increments their major updates by .1's 2.0, 2.1, 2.2., 2.3, 2.4 and so on. That is just a different numbering system, the rate and size of updates is very similar.

Re: new 2.3

Robert Kaiser wrote: Jens Hatlak schrieb: IOW, for things like Add-ons Manager and Data Manager (called from different places!), corresponding bugs need to be filed if not already present. No bug, no change. One is enough, it's the switchToTabHavingURI() function that is to blame and used by b

Re: new 2.3

Robert Kaiser wrote: Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) schrieb: Unfortunately, from a user perspective, major change is rarely welcome, whilst increased security and incremental bug fixes are universally appreciated. Right, that's why the major change the web brought to computers was never appr

Re: new 2.3

Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: Jens Hatlak wrote: > IOW, for things like Add-ons Manager and Data Manager (called from different places!), corresponding bugs need to be filed if not already present. No bug, no change. Will do. I believe a bug h

Re: new 2.3

Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: Jens Hatlak wrote: > [This is mostly for Philip et al. since Callek surely knows or can find out himself.] > > AFAICS it's 2.5 (current trunk) that will have seven levels in the plus direction and 4 in the n

Re: new 2.3

Daniel wrote: Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: Do you have WebGL disabled in about:config? Really even if its enabled in about:config, it could be disabled on your system. webgl.disabled ... default.false (is disabled and false a double negative??) Yes it is a double negative, if

Re: new 2.3

Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: WLS wrote: Daniel wrote: WLS wrote: Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: WLS wrote: Ray_Net wrote: WLS wrote: Ray_Net wrote: MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 05/08/2011 11:17, Bill Davidsen told the world: Some commercial users have complained that they can't do

Re: new 2.3

Daniel wrote: WLS wrote: Daniel wrote: WLS wrote: Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: WLS wrote: Ray_Net wrote: WLS wrote: Ray_Net wrote: MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 05/08/2011 11:17, Bill Davidsen told the world: Some commercial users have complained that they can't do a QA cycle th

Re: new 2.3

WLS wrote: Daniel wrote: WLS wrote: Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: WLS wrote: Ray_Net wrote: WLS wrote: Ray_Net wrote: MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 05/08/2011 11:17, Bill Davidsen told the world: Some commercial users have complained that they can't do a QA cycle that often, and a

Re: new 2.3

Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: Jens Hatlak wrote: > IOW, for things like Add-ons Manager and Data Manager (called from different places!), corresponding bugs need to be filed if not already present. No bug, no change. Will do. I believe a bug has already been filed :

Re: new 2.3

Ed Mullen wrote: Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: Jens Hatlak wrote: > [This is mostly for Philip et al. since Callek surely knows or can find out himself.] > > AFAICS it's 2.5 (current trunk) that will have seven levels in the plus direction and 4 in the negative direction again by de

Re: new 2.3

Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: Jens Hatlak wrote: > [This is mostly for Philip et al. since Callek surely knows or can find out himself.] > > AFAICS it's 2.5 (current trunk) that will have seven levels in the plus direction and 4 in the negative direction again by default. Current

Re: new 2.3

Paul B. Gallagher wrote: MCBastos wrote: But, the thing is, with limited resources available, supporting those old releases means that the new release does not receive as much work as it needs. With Seamonkey tied to the every-six-weeks Mozilla release schedule, delaying release is not an optio

Re: new 2.3

Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: ... It was my impression (and I may have been wrong), that up and till V2.0.14, these two elements were not bundled : that is, V2.0.14 was incrementally better than V2.0.x, x < 14, yet there were no perceivable changes in the user interface. I suspect yo

Re: new 2.3

Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: NoOp wrote: > Seems to be the Windows Vista syndrome... fill the landfills with old > hardware so that you can experience the latest& greatest. Further, > NVIDIA 257.21 doesn't work on Quadro4 cards. Not restricted to Vista; I too see nothing under W

Re: new 2.3

Jens Hatlak wrote: [This is mostly for Philip et al. since Callek surely knows or can find out himself.] Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: Though the "Why ... three levels of zoom" I recall us describing the why many times; Us mentioning a bug #; and (recently) one of our newsgroup readers actually F

Re: new 2.3

NoOp wrote: On 08/07/2011 08:27 AM, Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: WLS wrote: Daniel wrote: WLS wrote: ... Here is the link if anyone wants to view the demo. http://robhawkes.github.com/webgl-html5-audio-visualiser/ Clicking on the link got me Jazz sounding music with a blank screen and "Don

Re: new 2.3

Paul B. Gallagher wrote: WLS wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: I'm only saying what I've read here from authoritative sources; the only addition is my judgment "half-baked," which reflects many of the opinions voiced here. If you don't like it, speak to the merits of the argument. You need not

Re: new 2.3

Interviewed by CNN on 07/08/2011 21:29, Paul B. Gallagher told the world: > MCBastos wrote: > >> But, the thing is, with limited resources available, supporting >> those old releases means that the new release does not receive as >> much work as it needs. With Seamonkey tied to the every-six-weeks

Re: new 2.3

WLS wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: I'm only saying what I've read here from authoritative sources; the only addition is my judgment "half-baked," which reflects many of the opinions voiced here. If you don't like it, speak to the merits of the argument. You need not shoot the messenger. Pl

Re: new 2.3 - Firefox updates too often

MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 07/08/2011 15:23, Rufus told the world: I'm rather surprised they don't charge for it - I'd certainly be willing to pay 99 cents for something like this, and I think most users would at a 99 cent price point for a useful companion to the otherwise free desk

Re: new 2.3

Robert Kaiser wrote: Rufus schrieb: Robert Kaiser wrote: Rufus schrieb: ...WTF is *this*? http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/mobile/ Not a SeaMonkey thing at least. Robert Kaiser ...wonder if it would work with SM, though? I find some Firefox things do. I like the idea of it, anyway. If you m

Re: new 2.3

Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: Sun, 07 Aug 2011 20:29:22 -0400, /Paul B. Gallagher/: As our parents used to ask, "If everyone else jumped off a cliff, would you do it, too?" Just because the FF people decided to rush things and churn out a series of half-baked products for

Re: new 2.3

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: Sun, 07 Aug 2011 20:29:22 -0400, /Paul B. Gallagher/: As our parents used to ask, "If everyone else jumped off a cliff, would you do it, too?" Just because the FF people decided to rush things and churn out a series of half-baked products for the sake of keeping up wi

Re: new 2.3

Sun, 07 Aug 2011 20:29:22 -0400, /Paul B. Gallagher/: As our parents used to ask, "If everyone else jumped off a cliff, would you do it, too?" Just because the FF people decided to rush things and churn out a series of half-baked products for the sake of keeping up with the Joneses, why should w

Re: new 2.3

Sun, 07 Aug 2011 20:40:49 -0300, /MCBastos/: Interviewed by CNN on 07/08/2011 00:39, Graham told the world: Funny that. I thought that a large part of the point of Seamonkey was precisely to avoid change for change's sake, or we'd all have been using Firefox. Not quite. The point is to have a

Re: new 2.3

MCBastos wrote: But, the thing is, with limited resources available, supporting those old releases means that the new release does not receive as much work as it needs. With Seamonkey tied to the every-six-weeks Mozilla release schedule, delaying release is not an option. So supporting the old r

Re: new 2.3

Interviewed by CNN on 07/08/2011 17:41, Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) told the world: > Yes indeed, Chris, and it was not my intention to ignore > it. Rather, my point (perhaps poorly made) was that > by tying increased security and incremental bug fixes > to deliberate (or forced, by changes

Re: new 2.3

Interviewed by CNN on 07/08/2011 00:39, Graham told the world: > Funny that. I thought that a large part of the point of Seamonkey was > precisely to avoid change for change's sake, or we'd all have been using > Firefox. Not quite. The point is to have an integrated suite geared for power users

Re: new 2.3

Interviewed by CNN on 07/08/2011 19:14, Robert Kaiser told the world: > If you mean Firefox Home, which has been available for a long time, just > not promoted on there before, yes, it works with SeaMonkey Sync just > like with Firefox Sync, as it's exactly the same technology. :) To complement

Re: new 2.3 - Firefox updates too often

Interviewed by CNN on 07/08/2011 15:23, Rufus told the world: > I'm rather surprised they don't charge for it - I'd certainly be willing > to pay 99 cents for something like this, and I think most users would at > a 99 cent price point for a useful companion to the otherwise free > desktop brow

Re: new 2.3

Rufus schrieb: Robert Kaiser wrote: Rufus schrieb: ...WTF is *this*? http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/mobile/ Not a SeaMonkey thing at least. Robert Kaiser ...wonder if it would work with SM, though? I find some Firefox things do. I like the idea of it, anyway. If you mean Firefox Home, whic

Re: new 2.3

Robert Kaiser wrote: Jens Hatlak schrieb: IOW, for things like Add-ons Manager and Data Manager (called from different places!), corresponding bugs need to be filed if not already present. No bug, no change. One is enough, it's the switchToTabHavingURI() function that is to blame and used by b

Re: new 2.3 - Firefox updates too often

PhillipJones schrieb: This is something they have been working on for years. and finally put out. Shame they haven't come out with one for BlackBerry. This is off-topic here but in the future Firefox Home will come for all platforms that can run a somewhat reasonable browser, even Symbian. T

Re: new 2.3 - Firefox updates too often

PhillipJones schrieb: the OP of this thread obviously meant SM 2.3 and mistakenly wrote FF. The one I replied to obviously didn't. Robert Kaiser -- Note that any statements of mine - no matter how passionate - are never meant to be offensive but very often as food for thought or possible a

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