Re: [Sursound] The Sound of Vision (Mirage-sonics?)

2012-06-12 Thread umashankar mantravadi
i think there are a few indian musicians who have an absolute pitch sense. indian musicians set their pitch before each performance (apart from a few instruments like the veena where it is fixed) so it is possible that the existence of an absolute pitch sense has no relationship to the setting

Re: [Sursound] Catching the same fly twice (and a curious question)

2012-06-01 Thread umashankar mantravadi
as a location sound mixer, i exploited the visual reinforcement of sound in many situations. if you are recording half a dozen people speaking, and the camera focus on one - provided the sound is in synch - the person in picture will sound louder, nearer the mic, than the others. it is a surpri

Re: [Sursound] microphone epiphany ?

2012-05-27 Thread umashankar mantravadi
ut a write up on how to derive those at: > > http://www.ai.sri.com/ajh/ambisonics/umashankar_velan.html > > -- > Aaron (hel...@ai.sri.com) > Menlo Park, CA US > > > On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 12:41 PM, umashankar mantravadi > wrote: > > > > assuming all si

Re: [Sursound] microphone epiphany ?

2012-05-26 Thread umashankar mantravadi
assuming all six capsules have same gain, and all are contributing to W, how much should be the attenuation? umashankar i have published my poems. read (or buy) at http://stores.lulu.com/umashankar > Date: Sat, 26 May 2012 18:25:04 +0200 > From: netti...@stackingdwarves.net > To: sursound@music

Re: [Sursound] Why do you invert the phase of one channel of multi capsule microphones ?

2012-05-24 Thread umashankar mantravadi
dear augustine x y and z represent three figure of eight microphones. the way to generate a figure of eight microphone out of two opposed cardioids is to invert the phase of one, and sum them. umashankar i have published my poems. read (or buy) at http://stores.lulu.com/umashankar > Date

Re: [Sursound] audio point / audio plenum

2012-04-18 Thread umashankar mantravadi
for me, this is where ambisonics (or surround sound) really comes in. we have been recording dry (even with blumlein) and hoping the speakers at home will create enough 'ambience' of some kind. one reason we are forced to do this is because in the real world reverberation is three dimensional;

Re: [Sursound] OT: Spatial music

2012-04-13 Thread umashankar mantravadi
that is a question i had been meaning to ask. can a tetrahedral mic be used to create a room (correction) impulse response in B format? and how? umashankar i have published my poems. read (or buy) at http://stores.lulu.com/umashankar > From: rica...@justnet.com.au > To: sursound@music.vt.edu >

Re: [Sursound] OT: Spatial music

2012-04-13 Thread umashankar mantravadi
folks i just looked out of my window and it is 1975! Wireless World gave up waiting for the third part of MAG's article and started publishing somebody called Ivor Catt, who wanted to fight Maxwell in single combat. umashankar i have published my poems. read (or buy) at http://stores.lulu.com/u

Re: [Sursound] Can anyone help with my dissertation please?

2012-04-02 Thread umashankar mantravadi
well, i always thought first order b format as a natural extension of blumlein. one immediate result i noticed first time i managed to play a recording with eight loudspeakers was how little work the speakers to had to do to produce a rich full bodied sound in my (somewhat small). the speakers

Re: [Sursound] Can anyone help with my dissertation please?

2012-03-31 Thread umashankar mantravadi
for me, ambisonics (or a soundfield microphone) is the tool to use for acoustic measurements, to archive the sound of spaces as they exist before they get torn down, burnt or modified into shopping malls. but then, i got into ambisonics through attempts to measure the acoustics of ancient archa

Re: [Sursound] Ambisonic-Binaural piece using Brahma mic (was Re: Great responses to my post--thanks!)

2012-01-12 Thread umashankar mantravadi
dear hector just listened to the recordings, they sound great. on my Sony MDR V6 headphones, i did not hear the front back reversal. umashankar > From: hcen...@gmail.com > Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 18:52:14 -0500 > To: sursound@music.vt.edu > Subject: Re: [Sursound] Ambisonic-Binaural piece using

Re: [Sursound] Nowt new under t'sun

2011-12-21 Thread umashankar mantravadi
incredible it even uses the word 'sound field' umashankar i have published my poems. read (or buy) at http://stores.lulu.com/umashankar > Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 10:59:24 + > From: dave.mal...@york.ac.uk > To: sursound@music.vt.edu > Subject: Re: [Sursound] Nowt new under t'sun > > And this

Re: [Sursound] Great responses to my post--thanks!

2011-12-05 Thread umashankar mantravadi
dear hector that sounded very good indeed on my sony mdr5 headphones. did you record with brahma? umashankar i have published my poems. read (or buy) at http://stores.lulu.com/umashankar > Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 21:40:26 -0600 > To: sursound@music.vt.edu > From: d...@fugato.com > Subject: Re: [S

Re: [Sursound] problem with jconvolver on osx

2011-10-12 Thread umashankar mantravadi
brahmavolver is a standalone program, not a vst plug in. or so i thought/ (i have version .71 for windows with me)umashankar i have published my poems. read (or buy) at http://stores.lulu.com/umashankar > Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 14:58:40 -0700 > From: hel...@ai.sri.com > To: sursound@music.vt.e

Re: [Sursound] Soundfield-type mics: inverting or not?

2011-10-10 Thread umashankar mantravadi
i forgotten how, but in school, we use to make very annoying clickers out of pieces of photofilm. even if i can remember how to make it, where will i find photofilm? umashankar i have published my poems. read (or buy) at http://stores.lulu.com/umashankar > Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 11:49:11 +0100

Re: [Sursound] Soundfield-type mics: inverting or not?

2011-10-10 Thread umashankar mantravadi
yes speech is best (the only negative going sound we can make is om, which should be said while breathing in. umashankar i have published my poems. read (or buy) at http://stores.lulu.com/umashankar > From: geoffreybar...@mac.com > Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 10:13:58 +0100 > To: sursound@music.vt.e

Re: [Sursound] [ot] another patent

2011-09-22 Thread umashankar mantravadi
when i was a child my grandaunt told me the story of a demon who lived in old banyan tree. he would swoop down on unwary travellers, but the travellers always ran away. one day, one traveller could not run, and the demon stopped him. he said, sit down under the tree, and learn everything i know

[Sursound] new technology?

2011-08-31 Thread umashankar mantravadi
just read about this in the asa newsletter. anyone knows anything about it? http://www.visisonics.com/Products/AudioCamera.html umashankar i have published my poems. read (or buy) at http://stores.lulu.com/umashankar -- next part --

Re: [Sursound] Ambisonics on the cheap?

2011-08-03 Thread umashankar mantravadi
mass production will not happen so easily, but if you dont count your computer in the cost, 200 dollars for first order, without height is very possible. there are many 7.1 channel cards, some of them on usb, which are based on an eight channel d-a convertor. if you ignore the software provided

Re: [Sursound] Ambisonics on the cheap?

2011-07-29 Thread umashankar mantravadi
going to order one and see. umashankar i have published my poems. read (or buy) at http://stores.lulu.com/umashankar > From: b...@mit.edu > Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 00:07:12 -0400 > To: sursound@music.vt.edu > Subject: Re: [Sursound] Ambisonics on the cheap? > > Has anyone tried anything from ES

Re: [Sursound] Distance perception (really speaker wire discussion!)

2011-07-28 Thread umashankar mantravadi
order to 'get the f*** outa there'. > >> > >> The phenomena can be reversed, or at least alleviated from a 3rd person > >> perspective, by plugging the cables into a live mains socket and biting > >> hard on the other end. > >> > >>Dav

Re: [Sursound] Distance perception (really speaker wire discussion!)

2011-07-27 Thread umashankar mantravadi
t; -of-thumb present no more than 5% of the impedance load presented by the > speaker, and hence the ONLY real issue of concern is the resistance of the > selected wire per foot. The speakers I use most often have a rated impedance > of 4 Ohms, hence we do not want to see a DC resistan

Re: [Sursound] Distance perception (really speaker wire discussion!)

2011-07-27 Thread umashankar mantravadi
mb present no more than 5% of the impedance load presented by the > speaker, and hence the ONLY real issue of concern is the resistance of the > selected wire per foot. The speakers I use most often have a rated impedance > of 4 Ohms, hence we do not want to see a DC resistance greater tha

Re: [Sursound] Distance perception

2011-07-27 Thread umashankar mantravadi
my favourite visual image is of a boeing 747. it always seems to fly so slow. we seem to have, in our brains, a 'size' for aircraft, so we can use that to compute speed from angular momentum. so small aircraft wiz by and big ones lumber. what models do we create for sound objects? umashankar i

Re: [Sursound] Distance perception

2011-07-27 Thread umashankar mantravadi
years ago (no decades ago) i found what a huge difference it made if the wires were reasonably thick, and cut to be exactly same length. cutting them to same length is problematic with eight loudspeakers (unless the amp sits in the sweet spot) but my next rig, in my own house, in bangalore next

Re: [Sursound] Opinions on the Brahma soundfield mic kit

2011-07-11 Thread umashankar mantravadi
dear all i am the person who makes brahma microphones. the photographs and description on the oomagamma site are of one early version. the capsules are cardioid 14 mm, mounted on a drilled out sphere. (it was not very successful.) while oomagamma sells some of the microphones i had made, brahma

[Sursound] umashankar mantravadi has shared documents with you

2011-07-11 Thread umashankar mantravadi
umashankar mantravadi shared the folder brahma 140 with you on Windows Live. <http://profile.live.com/cid-3aeeea022e2ad294?Bsrc=EMSHOO&Bpub=SN.Notifications> "here are the two recordings by hector i intended to send" View folder <http://skydrive.live.com/redir.aspx?ci

[Sursound] umashankar mantravadi has shared documents with you

2011-07-11 Thread umashankar mantravadi
umashankar mantravadi shared the folder ambisonics with you on Windows Live. <http://profile.live.com/cid-3aeeea022e2ad294?Bsrc=EMSHOO&Bpub=SN.Notifications> "here are to B format recordings (four wave files each) recorded and processed by hector centano. using the brahma 140

Re: [Sursound] HOA mics [was] "the recent 2-channel 3D sound formats and ..."

2011-07-10 Thread umashankar mantravadi
just a thought (please shoot me down if i am talking air). all the microphones we currently use (except for some cell phone microphones, according to the patents) are first order microphones the patterns just a combination of omni and figure of eight in various ratios. there are various second

Re: [Sursound] Portable ambisonics setup, or "how do you mount speakers on tubes?"

2011-06-30 Thread umashankar mantravadi
i would agree with that (arent there too many wires already?) but i found a cheaper solution in chinese made digital amplifier cards. 50 dollars including shipping for four channels! you need to build a box etc of course. there are switched mode power supplies too. (search for sure electronics

Re: [Sursound] B format mic using omnis?

2011-06-20 Thread umashankar mantravadi
dear eric the way i marked out my holes is this: draw three great circles, 120 degrees apart. the point they crosss at is the first microphone. you then mark 240 degrees on each great circle and drill for the other three. i drilled the holes through the sphere so the wires could be threaded out

Re: [Sursound] B format mic using omnis?

2011-06-20 Thread umashankar mantravadi
years ago i had asked (several times) this same question and never got a satisfactory answer. i thought of two alternate systems. one where the sphere is about seven or eight inches across, and the other where the sphere is just large enough(about an inch) to mount the capsules. never tried to

Re: [Sursound] Sound Externalization Headphone

2011-05-25 Thread umashankar mantravadi
some months ago i acquired a battered motor cycle helmet. the aim is to mount eight loudspeakers ; remove the foam but leave the helmet suspension intact, so it is a few inches off the head in all directions. feed a standard cube decode. havent tried it yet. distracted by a loudspeaker cube!

Re: [Sursound] Test message

2011-05-22 Thread umashankar mantravadi
dear paul i got your message. in fact i thought i had replied.sorry. umashankar i have published my poems. read (or buy) at http://stores.lulu.com/umashankar > Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 16:29:46 +0100 > From: pwh-surro...@cassland.org > To: sursound@music.vt.edu; umasha...@hotmail.com > Sub

Re: [Sursound] Test message

2011-05-22 Thread umashankar mantravadi
they have decided on ambisonics (up there), but are now arguing about whether 3rd order is enough, or if it is natural umashankar i have published my poems. read (or buy) at http://stores.lulu.com/umashankar > From: j...@johnleonard.co.uk > Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 15:06:25 +0100 > To: surs

Re: [Sursound] Brahma mic users?

2011-05-18 Thread umashankar mantravadi
ertain. > > thanks > Michael > > > On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 11:19 AM, umashankar mantravadi > wrote: > > > > dear michael > > > > i do not mind at all, and would in fact like to hear from people who have > > used my mic, or heard recordings

Re: [Sursound] Brahma mic users?

2011-05-17 Thread umashankar mantravadi
dear michael i do not mind at all, and would in fact like to hear from people who have used my mic, or heard recordings made with it. Angelo has ten of them, and a 11th made with TSB 120 capsules which he has tested and calibrated and used for recordings. i have not heard these recordings m

Re: [Sursound] Speaker configs + subwoofers

2011-05-09 Thread umashankar mantravadi
transmission line speakers are not difficult to build and i suspect they would be better for a ambisonic system than reflex speakers, for almost thirty years now i had a pair of 'miniline' transmission line speakers published in HiFiNews (and i think designed by P Atkinson) they use KEF B110 an

Re: [Sursound] Minim AD7 for sale

2011-05-03 Thread umashankar mantravadi
in fact angelo recommended that i arrange the eight speakers as two crossed squares. two speakers in front and back, and four speakers mid bottom left and right and mid top left and right, the only problem is i do not see a readymade decoder umashankar i have published my poems. read (or bu

Re: [Sursound] Minim AD7 for sale

2011-05-01 Thread umashankar mantravadi
dear john just ten minutes ago i finished setting up an eight speaker playback system. the speakers are small (4inch) in home made boxes. at the moment they hang flush against the wall near the roof and near the ceiling. it is cube about 10 feet on each side. (slightly less top to bottom) i

Re: [Sursound] Minim AD7 for sale

2011-04-30 Thread umashankar mantravadi
maybe a little unrelated. i just sold a brahma 140 (14 mm capsules) and zoom modified to a new york film crew. they plan to use the microphone mounted on the camera. i had been a film sound recordist for 25 years, and even with stereo, i preferred a stable sound image for a whole scene, without

Re: [Sursound] Minim AD7 for sale

2011-04-30 Thread umashankar mantravadi
i have the sabrent. it works very well in windows with asio for all. it is advertised as 7.1 but has eight identical output channels (you have to watch out for virtual 7,1 boxes) i have bult myself an eight channel digiital amplifier using quad cards from sure electronics (50 usd including sh

Re: [Sursound] Minim AD7 for sale

2011-04-30 Thread umashankar mantravadi
it would be nice if somebody put together - created a recipe - with readily available components which will do one thing only. play four channel Bformat files through an eight output sound card. just enough controls to set up the speakers and select files to be played. it would be nice if it

Re: [Sursound] distance perception in virtual environments(OT)

2011-04-28 Thread umashankar mantravadi
i always thought that it is impossible to actually know the state of every gate and shift register in a cpu. so it is not deterministic umashankar i have published my poems. read (or buy) at http://stores.lulu.com/umashankar > Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 07:48:22 -0700 > From: gre...@math.ucla.

Re: [Sursound] rf interference

2011-04-26 Thread umashankar mantravadi
a very feasible idea. you really dont need transformer balancing (which i think the PPAs provide). impedance balancing will do it, and any dc 6 volt supply should work with the tetramic. i built john leonard a box wich provides stabilisied 5 volts, but i think you might get away without even th

Re: [Sursound] rf interference

2011-04-16 Thread umashankar mantravadi
if the radio pick up is happening at the mic head (possible) what you will need is a metal grill which is earthed. the signal is unbalanced till the ppa outputs. so it is best to use any extension cables after the point. umashankar i have published my poems. read (or buy) at http://stores.lu

Re: [Sursound] TetraMic and/or Sound Devices 788T question: weird noise at record start?

2011-04-16 Thread umashankar mantravadi
this is something i have vaguely worried about when designing multichannel mikes in one body, and then phantom powering them. in the classic wurtke circuit, the phantom voltage powers the output transistors, and you need it to be on for the transistors to work (right?) doesnt the core sound ppa

Re: [Sursound] TetraMic and/or Sound Devices 788T question: weird noise at record start?

2011-04-16 Thread umashankar mantravadi
i am not sure the baby ball gag will work. it is primarily meant for cylindrical mics like many small diaphragm condensors umashankar i have published my poems. read (or buy) at http://stores.lulu.com/umashankar > Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 08:15:07 +0100 > From: dave.mal...@york.ac.uk > To: s

Re: [Sursound] NYC-area TetraMic owners? or: advice on a wind-screen

2011-04-15 Thread umashankar mantravadi
netti...@stackingdwarves.net > To: sursound@music.vt.edu > Subject: Re: [Sursound] NYC-area TetraMic owners? or: advice on a wind-screen > > On 04/15/2011 07:00 AM, umashankar mantravadi wrote: > > > > at a pinch, you should be able to use the foam windscreens made for sm58 > > styl

Re: [Sursound] NYC-area TetraMic owners? or: advice on a wind-screen

2011-04-14 Thread umashankar mantravadi
at a pinch, you should be able to use the foam windscreens made for sm58 style microphones umashankar i have published my poems. read (or buy) at http://stores.lulu.com/umashankar > From: jnarve...@wesleyan.edu > Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 23:22:32 -0400 > To: sursound@music.vt.edu > Subject:

Re: [Sursound] HARPEX-B Plus First Order Mic vs. Third Order

2011-04-06 Thread umashankar mantravadi
dear hector is there some way one can access the b format recordings of the birds? umashankar i have published my poems. read (or buy) at http://stores.lulu.com/umashankar > Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 18:27:57 -0400 > From: i...@hcenteno.net > To: sursound@music.vt.edu > Subject: Re: [Sursound

Re: [Sursound] Ambisonics max/MSP 8 speakers - ICST Ambisonic Externals

2011-03-20 Thread umashankar mantravadi
ST Ambisonic > Externals > > umashankar, > > You can install ambdec from the Main KXStudio PPA repository : > https://launchpad.net/~kxstudio-team > > -- > Marc > > Le 20 mars 2011, umashankar mantravadi a écrit : > > has anyone packaged fons ambdec (and ev

Re: [Sursound] Ambisonics max/MSP 8 speakers - ICST Ambisonic Externals

2011-03-20 Thread umashankar mantravadi
has anyone packaged fons ambdec (and even his tetraproc) so i can install it easily on ubuntu studio? umashankar i have published my poems. read (or buy) at http://stores.lulu.com/umashankar > Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 19:11:03 +0100 > From: netti...@stackingdwarves.net > To: sursound@music.v

Re: [Sursound] cross-talk cancellation used in binaural sound reproduction

2011-03-13 Thread umashankar mantravadi
i still have that floppy lp (and probably audio too) somewhere umashankar i have published my poems. read (or buy) at http://stores.lulu.com/umashankar > Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 20:24:20 -0700 > From: gre...@math.ucla.edu > To: sursound@music.vt.edu > Subject: Re: [Sursound] cross-talk canc

Re: [Sursound] Ambisonics symposium 2011: was help with links ...

2011-03-06 Thread umashankar mantravadi
i would try and use circular multipole connectors - you have to get it right only once. for 1st order, unbalanced, a five pin xlr works fine. balanced is ten wires (one wire to provide dc power). i have a working first order native B-format mic with a quad opamp doing the signal conversion (fro

Re: [Sursound] Ambisonics symposium 2011: was help with links ...

2011-03-05 Thread umashankar mantravadi
to reproduce 2nd order material with-height using a loudspeaker array > that fits in a normal domestic room. > > Eric > > > - Original Message > From: umashankar mantravadi > To: sursound@music.vt.edu > Sent: Fri, March 4, 2011 9:14:10 PM > Subject: Re: [Surs

Re: [Sursound] Ambisonics symposium 2011: was help with links ...

2011-03-04 Thread umashankar mantravadi
dear eric first question. how many recording channels will it need? umashankar i have published my poems. read (or buy) at http://stores.lulu.com/umashankar > Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 20:49:23 -0800 > From: eb...@pacbell.net > To: sursound@music.vt.edu > Subject: [Sursound] Ambisonics sympo

Re: [Sursound] Modifyine a zoom H2 to be a tetrahedral microphone

2011-01-29 Thread umashankar mantravadi
i have modified about 15 zoom H2s so far, and have bullt tetrahedral microphones that plug into the modified zoomz.the modification is quite simple really, just a way of attaching a five pin connector to the top of the zoom, so a tetrahedral mic with five pin connector can be plugged in, direct

Re: [Sursound] does anyone have harry f. olson, "gradient microphones", jasa 1946?

2010-12-21 Thread umashankar mantravadi
some years ago i found a whole load of patents on the uspatent site for second order microphones. mostly for use in cell phones. others for hearing aids. it would be interesting to revisit the ideas, especially as i am now able to do very odd shapes using shapeways. umashankar i have publis

Re: [Sursound] [ot] Repent, yus pseudo pontificating prophets

2010-12-02 Thread umashankar mantravadi
under the influence! harmony of the spheres ? (I am just reading sleepwalkers) umashankar i have published my poems. read (or buy) at http://stores.lulu.com/umashankar > Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2010 03:30:56 +0200 > From: de...@iki.fi > To: sursound@music.vt.edu > Subject: [Sursound] [ot] Repent,

Re: [Sursound] A conversion guide ?

2010-11-25 Thread umashankar mantravadi
little OT. this is actually a guide to converting the H2 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ms_static/sets/72157625446503232/detail/ umashankar > Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 21:28:32 -0800 > From: flawless.gate...@gmail.com > To: sursound@music.vt.edu > Subject: [Sursound] A conversion guide ? > > Hi,

[Sursound] umashankar mantravadi has shared documents with you

2010-11-08 Thread umashankar mantravadi
umashankar mantravadi shared the folder ambisonics with you on Windows Live. <http://cid-3aeeea022e2ad294.profile.live.com/?Bsrc=EMSHOO&Bpub=SN.Notifications> "a few files done with a 6 mm tetrahedron. diwali crackers, but not a very impressive show." View folder <http

Re: [Sursound] DR-680, TetraMic, VVMicVST & Nuendo 5

2010-11-02 Thread umashankar mantravadi
well, it is divali here in india next weekend and i am hoping to use my zoom H2 and a brahma with six mm capsules to record the fireworks. they start at sunset and usually go on past midnight. i also have a working six caspule 'velan' working, but the electronics may not be ready in time. the n