Re: [Sursound] Ambisonics on the cheap?

2011-08-03 Thread Marc Lavallée
Even using spare parts, a complete system can be cheap. - one plug computer with ethernet: 75 euros (or with wifi : < 100 euros) - one usb 7.1 sound card: < 20 euros - four or more small fullrange speakers: ? The first step would be to create a complete software system with a good user interf

Re: [Sursound] Ambisonics on the cheap?

2011-08-03 Thread Michael Chapman
> On 2011-07-29, Sarang S. Dalal wrote: > >> I've been lurking for only a day, but Sampo's note gives me the >> courage to go ahead and ask the first question I was hoping this group >> might help me answer. > > And good it was. No? ;) > > My question then is, how to do ambisonic even cheaper. I so

Re: [Sursound] Ambisonics on the cheap?

2011-08-03 Thread Sampo Syreeni
On 2011-08-04, umashankar mantravadi wrote: mass production will not happen so easily, but if you dont count your computer in the cost, 200 dollars for first order, without height is very possible. Software, D/A, amplifier and decent speakers included? I agree that that all should be possibl

Re: [Sursound] Ambisonics on the cheap?

2011-08-03 Thread umashankar mantravadi
. and there is plenty of decoding software. umashankar i have published my poems. read (or buy) at http://stores.lulu.com/umashankar > Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 05:57:34 +0300 > From: de...@iki.fi > To: sursound@music.vt.edu > Subject: Re: [Sursound] Ambisonics on the cheap? > > On 20

Re: [Sursound] Ambisonics on the cheap?

2011-08-03 Thread Sampo Syreeni
On 2011-07-29, Sarang S. Dalal wrote: I've been lurking for only a day, but Sampo's note gives me the courage to go ahead and ask the first question I was hoping this group might help me answer. And good it was. No? ;) My question then is, how to do ambisonic even cheaper. I sort of underta

Re: [Sursound] Ambisonics on the cheap?

2011-07-31 Thread Sampo Syreeni
On 2011-07-28, Eric Benjamin wrote: One thing that I learned from those is that it's difficult to get high quality audio from a computer unless you have the converters be remote from the computer itself. I don't know if this would pan out in practice, but I think it might... While outboard D

Re: [Sursound] Ambisonics on the cheap?

2011-07-31 Thread Sarang S. Dalal
Hi everyone, Thanks for all the brilliant feedback, and especially Michael and Eric for their very detailed thoughts. I've got a lot to think about, but, for my needs, it seems the expense of an 8-channel periphonic system will mostly depend on the quality of speakers (and their mounting). My a

Re: [Sursound] Ambisonics on the cheap?

2011-07-31 Thread Marc Lavallée
This other module (less than $30) is limited to 16bit but seems to work at 48Khz with 8 channels: http://www.sabrent.com/category/audio/USB-SND8/ Umashankar have one. -- Marc Sat, 30 Jul 2011 01:17:57 -0400, Hugh Pyle wrote : > I have one of these, and it's cheap and works well. The biggest

Re: [Sursound] Ambisonics on the cheap?

2011-07-29 Thread Hugh Pyle
I have one of these, and it's cheap and works well. The biggest issue is the sample rate limitation; with 8 channels you can only run at 44.1 kHz. On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 12:07 AM, Ben Bloomberg wrote: > Has anyone tried anything from ESI audio? It looks too good to be true. > > http://www.esi

Re: [Sursound] Ambisonics on the cheap?

2011-07-29 Thread Michael Chapman
:07:12 -0400 >> To: sursound@music.vt.edu >> Subject: Re: [Sursound] Ambisonics on the cheap? >> >> Has anyone tried anything from ESI audio? It looks too good to be true. >> >> http://www.esi-audio.com/pro

Re: [Sursound] Ambisonics on the cheap?

2011-07-29 Thread umashankar mantravadi
going to order one and see. umashankar i have published my poems. read (or buy) at http://stores.lulu.com/umashankar > From: b...@mit.edu > Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 00:07:12 -0400 > To: sursound@music.vt.edu > Subject: Re: [Sursound] Ambisonics on the cheap? > > Has anyone t

Re: [Sursound] Ambisonics on the cheap?

2011-07-29 Thread Ben Bloomberg
Has anyone tried anything from ESI audio? It looks too good to be true. http://www.esi-audio.com/products/gigaporthd/ It seems like they can be had for around $100. ben On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 9:41 AM, Dave Malham wrote: > > > On 29/07/2011 11:30, Michael Chapman wrote: > >> Now I would like t

Re: [Sursound] Ambisonics on the cheap?

2011-07-29 Thread Dave Malham
On 29/07/2011 11:30, Michael Chapman wrote: Now I would like to construct a higher-order sound system, ideally with consumer-level (and consumer-priced) components. I don't need a big dynamic range, high power, or the best sound fidelity possible, I just need a working prototype. This is the pa

Re: [Sursound] Ambisonics on the cheap?

2011-07-29 Thread Michael Chapman
> Hi everyone, > > I've been lurking for only a day, but Sampo's note gives me the courage to > go ahead and ask the first question I was hoping this group might help me > answer. > See you've already had some good replies. But, I'll throw in my experiences ... some of which have been at the really

Re: [Sursound] Ambisonics on the cheap?

2011-07-29 Thread Dave Malham
On a mac it is very easy to create an aggregate audio device from several different units, even if you can't physically lock their clocks together - which is, of course, the ideal way to do it. You chose one of them as the master device which supplies the clock and OSX itself automatically handle

Re: [Sursound] Ambisonics on the cheap?

2011-07-28 Thread Eric Benjamin
Sarang S. Dalal sarang.da...@uni-konstanz.de wrote: > I would like to construct a higher-order sound system, ideally with >consumer-level (and consumer-priced) components. I don't need a big dynamic >range, high power, or the best sound fidelity possible, I just need a working >prototype. >

Re: [Sursound] Ambisonics on the cheap?

2011-07-28 Thread Marc Lavallée
Sarang, Here's my non-professional solution for 16 channels: - One recent PC with 2 free PCI slots - Two 7.1 PCI sound cards (16bit / 48KHz is enough) - Linux (or OSX) with Jackd - Basic soldering skills - A bit of lecture and some luck : http://quicktoots.linuxaudio.org/toots/el-cheapo/ http://w

[Sursound] Ambisonics on the cheap?

2011-07-28 Thread Sarang S. Dalal
Hi everyone, I've been lurking for only a day, but Sampo's note gives me the courage to go ahead and ask the first question I was hoping this group might help me answer. I am interested in experimenting with periphonic sound synthesis using Ambisonics and (likely) Matlab, for research purposes.