RE: [biofuel] Tallow

>Thanks Keith, > >Only joined this group about 2 weeks ago and there is so much info I'd >forgotten about Aleks Kac's Foolproof method till you reminded me. Have just >copied and printed it & will investigate how it can be applied to palm oil >on a fairly large scale perhaps. > >Hanns Hello Hanns

[biofuel] energy budget ?'s

Hi Folks, Does anyone know a good source of energy statistics? I am interested particularly in what % of US energy use is used in cars and trucks. (I heard 75% somewhere.) How much more is used to make and service them? Sheesh! I had a look around but there is so much stuff to sort through. They m

Re: [biofuel] Diesel engines - running on biodiesel

I recently read this: "If it is one of the recent engines that uses fuel injection, you will not be able to alternati ly fuel the engine. Alternative fuels may have contaminants that will cause injector problems." on Is this true? Michael Dewolf

RE: [biofuel] Tallow

Thanks Keith, Only joined this group about 2 weeks ago and there is so much info I'd forgotten about Aleks Kac's Foolproof method till you reminded me. Have just copied and printed it & will investigate how it can be applied to palm oil on a fairly large scale perhaps. Hanns -Original Messa

Re: [biofuel] Container Plants Good Ideas?

In our case the concept of a mobile/container plant for BD is due the fact that it is a "farmer cooperative" effort and the plan is to be able to move the plant so that members with available time can easily run it without having to drive to it each day. We also hope that by having it mobile we ca

Re: [biofuel] Caveat on Container Plants

Todd - is this the technology or the application? If owned cooperatively by the farmers, the problem you describe would not occur, correct? Ed B. > Subject: [biofuel] Caveat on Container Plants > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an

[biofuel] Diesel engines - running on biodiesel

I recently read this: "If it is one of the recent engines that uses fuel injection, you will not be able to alternati ly fuel the engine. Alternative fuels may have contaminants that will cause injector problems." on Is this true? Michael Dewolf Bi

Re: [biofuel] Re: Enzymes

Davi Reid wrote (6/5/01): "Perhaps one ot two of you English guys should try tracking Edgar Woollatt (Consultant, British Executive Service Overseas and formerly Development Manager, Lever Bros Ltd, Cheshire) down. He is probably in his 70s I imagine and may no longer be up with the play but would

Ethanol groups - was Re: [biofuel] Tallow

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "steve spence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hey guys, ethanol is totally welcome here. we tend to get really intense on > biodiesel at times, but if you are doing ethanol work (and many of you are) > please, speak up. > > > Steve Spence Yeah, and even some us die-har

Re: Ethanol groups - was Re: [biofuel] Tallow

hey guys, ethanol is totally welcome here. we tend to get really intense on biodiesel at times, but if you are doing ethanol work (and many of you are) please, speak up. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages - http

Re: [biofuel] Tallow

Hans I have emailed BDI and they have replied that they can not take any new enquires until they have reduced their backlog Regards Frank - Original Message - From: Hanns B. Wetzel To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 8:42 PM Subject: RE: [biofuel]

[biofuel] Countries visiting Biofuels site

FYI, visitors to the Biofuels pages at Journey to Forever come from these countries, in descending order according to number of visits - 93 countries. Steve Spence can probably tell a similar story about Webconx. The biofuels movement is definitely global, and growing fast. Keith Addison Journ

Biodiesel in Australia - was Re: [biofuel] Information required

Hi Barry >Thanks Keith for the info. I will checkout the BAA ASAP. Nice folks, doing good work. >As I said to >Hanns, biodiesel is not big news here in the press. Yet there's great interest in it there. At least 80 members of this group are from Oz. Australia runs second in visits to our bi

Re: [biofuel] Information required

Thanks Keith for the info. I will checkout the BAA ASAP. As I said to Hanns, biodiesel is not big news here in the press. It was said on the report concerning the Newcastle Council's entry into biodiesel that if people were thinking of mass biodiesel production then the federal government wou

Re: [biofuel] fluid bed reactors/steam engines

Dana, No hurry. Thanks for the explanation. Could find nothing under my search for fluid bed reactor. Look forward to hearing from you in due course. B.r., David - Original Message - From: Dana Linscott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 4:49 PM Subject: Re: [

[biofuel] Caveat on Container Plants

I'm not terribly disappointed with the concept of Container Plants, save but one caveat. Almost all biofuel feedstocks are derivatives of a farmer's labors, whether it be the tallow from cattle, oil from seed or the waste oils from a fish and chips plant. Yet this profession usually has the lowes

RE: [biofuel] Water vs Energy Importance

This is off-topic so I'll apologize in advance and take all further discussion off-list, but water filtration is not strictly a mechanical process. Plants are very good at filtering for toxins and could be your post solar still filter. Ionizing the water pre-still or uv filtration could help c

Re: [biofuel] fluid bed reactors/steam engines

David, The fluid beds I referred to are reactors/combustors and although the site you refer to is about fluid beds and gives a good description of fluid beds in general they bear very little resemblence to the fluid bed reactors I have been referring to where an oxidation reaction takes place. Sor

Distilling fuel ethanol - was Re: [biofuel] Tallow

>Hi Hans, I'm From the US and would like info on who has the best still >design. I plan on building my own using stainless steel. I also want to know >who has the best performing distillers yeast. I am planning on making fuel >for my automobile and lawn equipment. So far I have downloaded The Home

Re: [biofuel] Tallow

Hanns forgive me for mispelling your name and forgetting to give you my e-mail address. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: ronald miller sr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 7:26 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Tallow > Is there a group of people who deal strictly

Re: Ethanol groups - was Re: [biofuel] Tallow

Thanks a bunch Ron - Original Message - From: Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 9:38 PM Subject: Ethanol groups - was Re: [biofuel] Tallow > >Is there a group of people who deal strictly with ethanol who have an online > >discussion such as yours. This re

Re: [biofuel] Tallow

Hi Hans, I'm From the US and would like info on who has the best still design. I plan on building my own using stainless steel. I also want to know who has the best performing distillers yeast. I am planning on making fuel for my automobile and lawn equipment. So far I have downloaded The Home Dis

RE: [biofuel] Water vs Energy Importance

>Thank you very much Keith. >Kirk You're most welcome, Kirk. :-) Keith Addison Journey to Forever Handmade Projects Tokyo http://journeytoforever.org/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo

RE: [biofuel] Water vs Energy Importance

Thank you very much Keith. Kirk -Original Message- From: Keith Addison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 8:39 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [biofuel] Water vs Energy Importance Hello Kirk >Hello all > >Just joined the group a day or so ago. >Am semi r

Ethanol groups - was Re: [biofuel] Tallow

>Is there a group of people who deal strictly with ethanol who have an online >discussion such as yours. This really a good way to air or receive great >ideas. I enjoy reading the notes. >Thanks, >Ron miller Hello Ron There are two distillers' groups, but they're into booze rather than fuel. [E

RE: [biofuel] Water vs Energy Importance

Hello Kirk >Hello all > >Just joined the group a day or so ago. >Am semi retired former aerospacer. Have been interested in alternative >energy for over 25 years. >Ham, KC7THL, and read a bit. Live in North America, central Montana to be >more precise. > >The post below regarding potable water is

Re: [biofuel] Bio-D

>There are a few guys out here in KS starting to experiment with our first >batches of biodiesel. We're looking for some additional information on >using ethanol rather than methanol for the transesterification (one guy owns >a nice still)--does this complicate the process? Is there some good >i

Re: [biofuel] Container Plants

Hi David I think Todd and I were talking mostly about Biodiesel Industries' Modular Production Unit ("MPU"), which is an expensive corporate gadget, and most of your points wouldn't apply (except #7). (See "Container units - was Re: [biofuel] Yield of Jerusalem artichoke"). I did post some in

[biofuel] Energy modesty "immoral"

http://www.latimes.com/news/science/environ/20010511/t39764.html Friday, May 11, 2001 | Print this story Nonprofit Shrugs at Pleas to Conserve Power: Ayn Rand Institute blasts calls to use less electricity. Utility and government officials defend conservation. By BOB POOL, Times Staff W

Re: [biofuel] Bio-D

http://www.webconx.com/2000/biofuel/biodiesel_ethanol.htm Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.com Palm Pilot Pages - http://www.webconx.com/palm X10 Home Automation - http://www.webconx.com/x1

Re: [biofuel] Can Biod be replace central heating oil?

BBQ Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.com Palm Pilot Pages - http://www.webconx.com/palm X10 Home Automation - http://www.webconx.com/x10 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (212) 894-3704 x3154 - voicemail/f

[biofuel] to Keith and Joseph re CH4

To Keith and Joseph, Thank you for the quick response re CH4 and methanol. I am impressed with the ideas and knowledge that come from this forum. Good stuff. Thanks, ja. Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail

[biofuel] portable elect generators, biodiesel bid

Hi Ed andAll, --- "NBT - E. Beggs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How about a Little Deutz Coupe, instead, and leave > the electric stuff at > home? The only problem with that is the little Deutz Coupe only gets about 10% of the fuel's energy to the road and is rather slow while the EV is

Re: [biofuel] Tallow

Is there a group of people who deal strictly with ethanol who have an online discussion such as yours. This really a good way to air or receive great ideas. I enjoy reading the notes. Thanks, Ron miller - Original Message - From: Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, May 15

Re: [biofuel] fluid bed reactors/steam engines

Hi Dana et al, After looking at the Fluid Bed principal (see www.sulzerfluidbed.com/fbprincipal.htm I tend to agree this may be a very efficient way of creating steam especially for use with Glycerine distillation purufication. Used waste heat could also possibly be used for s

Re: Parallel Products was Re: [biofuel] Container Plants

Andrew, You have to be careful here. Variety is the spice of life they say. I am always thankful I was brought up to try things, otherwise there are alot of pleasures and enjoyment I would have missed. Next thing you will be telling us the French with their Provencial style cooking o

[biofuel] Bio-D

There are a few guys out here in KS starting to experiment with our first batches of biodiesel. We're looking for some additional information on using ethanol rather than methanol for the transesterification (one guy owns a nice still)--does this complicate the process? Is there some good inform

Re: [biofuel] Can Biod be replace central heating oil?

Todd, This is where the by-pass filters I handle would come in very useful. B.r., David > If the question is as stated in the subject line, the answer is absolutely > yes. > > Some precautions must be taken to deal with cold weather mechanics such as > clouding and gelling. Other than t

Re: [biofuel] Can Biod be replace central heating oil?

Hi Steve, Sounds interesting. Do you mean lpg (liquid petroleum gas) or low pressure? B.r., David - Original Message - From: steve spence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 10:40 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Can Biod be replace central heating oil? > i have

Re: [biofuel] fluid bed reactors/steam engines

Hi Dana, Thankyou, that would be most appreciated. I know very little about fluid bed setups and it is something I always meant and mean to research but never quite get round to. I know they are used in things like foundries and some of the best coffee roasters in the world use fluid

RE: [biofuel] Water vs Energy Importance

Hello all Just joined the group a day or so ago. Am semi retired former aerospacer. Have been interested in alternative energy for over 25 years. Ham, KC7THL, and read a bit. Live in North America, central Montana to be more precise. The post below regarding potable water is worse than you know.

Re: [biofuel] Container Plants

Keith, Todd, et al, While mobile plants may not be applicable to the States and even there I am doubtful I certainly believe and am convinced in many places in Asia (certainly India for one) that a mobile plant would be a very good idea principally for the following go

Re: [biofuel] Can Biod be replace central heating oil?

Yeh Hi Todd. It has been dragged up from a few weeks old thread. I'm installing another smaller tank in an annexed room close to the boiler. This i'll keep topped with biod. Its reasonably warm. Whilst on this subject whats the minimum temp that problems arise? Ian - Original Message - Fro

RE: [biofuel] What's the difference

Todd, Thats the whole thing. Nobody wants to remove it. In this country, used cooking oil is maybe reprocessed and sold to the lower income groups. ( I know, there should be a law ) Anyway, these guys won't accept used hydrogenated oil -- too foreign to them. I feel like I'm in the butter!!

Re: Composting Toilets was Re: [biofuel] Musings about toilet tissue

Er, sorry! Odd double post - how the hell did I do that? :-( Keith Addison Journey to Forever Handmade Projects Tokyo http://journeytoforever.org/ > >Composting toilets resolve water issues and enhance soils. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubsc

Re: Composting Toilets was Re: [biofuel] Musings about toilet tissue

>Composting toilets resolve water issues and enhance soils. That's exactly right. That's what we have to do. I prefer the "restore" to "enhance" though - the stuff goes back to where it came from, according to the natural cycle. Flush toilets break that cycle, like many other things we do. Tha

[biofuel] Compost energy - was Re: Composting Toilets

>Composting toilets resolve water issues and enhance soils. That's exactly right, that's what we have to do. I prefer "restore" to "enhance" though - the stuff goes back to where it came from, according to the natural cycle. Flush toilets break that cycle, like many other things we do. That br

Re: [biofuel] methanol or methane CH4

Hi Joseph Very nice, clear explanation, thankyou! Best wishes Keith Addison Journey to Forever Handmade Projects Tokyo http://journeytoforever.org/ >John, >Methane (CH4) is not gaseous methanol. Methanol is oxygenated methane re: a >hydroxyl group (OH) replaces one of the hydrogen atoms in

Re: [biofuel] Water vs Energy Importance

Hi Derek >Keith, > >Not to belittle your concern about water, its importance, and the likelihood >of wars being fought over it, but I still tend to feel that energy in one >form or another is of utmost importance. Well, yes, but water is already a crisis, and energy isn't, really - only the rat

Re: [biofuel] Information requires

Hello Barry Do you know of BAA? The Biodiesel Association of Australia has been established "to promote and build a viable and ecologically sustainable biodiesel industry in Australia". Will offer supplies of biodiesel for registered members. FAQ, what-is, news & press, standards, documents,

Re: [biofuel] What's the difference

> It turns out that I have located a source for good quantities of used > hydrogenated vegetable oil. > > Before I enter into any negotiations I wonder whether this type of oil will > prove difficult to convert into biodiesal. > > Any thoughts on this? .. Mike, Go for it!

Re: Parallel Products was Re: [biofuel] Container Plants

> --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Appal Energy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I guess you just have to have made your own mash, discovered some of > > that wild Belgian Abbey yeast that yields banana esters or created > > your own Cinnamon Pumpkin Ale a time or two to understand. > > > > Todd > >

Parallel Products was Re: [biofuel] Container Plants

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Appal Energy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I guess you just have to have made your own mash, discovered some of > that wild Belgian Abbey yeast that yields banana esters or created > your own Cinnamon Pumpkin Ale a time or two to understand. > > Todd > Appal Energy

RE: [biofuel] What's the difference

Todd, It turns out that I have located a source for good quantities of used hydrogenated vegetable oil. Before I enter into any negotiations I wonder whether this type of oil will prove difficult to convert into biodiesal. Any thoughts on this? Mike -Original Message- From: Appal Ener

[biofuel] Re: Musings about toilet tissue

As we're getting lavatorial, my opinion is one to wipe, one to polish. Two sided use (Terry) is no good if you have the squirtys. br dave p Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is