[biofuel] What a releaf.

2003-08-26 Thread Johs Kleppe
I think this could come with a bio diesel trailer with a electric generator to increase operation distance. www.commutercars.com And it is faster then a Porche. Its "electric wheelchair" appearance is a lie. This is a wolf in cheeps appearance.:) Not eve

[biofuel] International Biodiesel Day

2003-08-26 Thread pmacv
http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/biodiesel August the 10th is the International Biodiesel Day. Here in Spain, appeared some articles promoted by us : - In the nationwide newspaper "La Raz—n" ( in the same Augusth the 10th). - In some regional newspapers, like in Catalonia. - In some radio station

[biofuel] VO and Diesel mix

2003-08-26 Thread ddnlooi
Hi, Has anyone got any information about blending straight vegetable oil with fossil diesel? What are the environmental issue? Thanks Daniel [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or

[biofuel] Testing of biodiesel

2003-08-26 Thread kline
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[biofuel] milk fat

2003-08-26 Thread carreragt41991
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[biofuel] help finding IDI

2003-08-26 Thread futureveggiedriver
I'm a newbie here and I have been trying to find some info on diesel vehicles. I would like to buy either a SUV or a van to convert to a waste veggie oil system. I was looking at the Elsbett system. Does anyone here have any experience with this and waste veggie oil. It seems I need to find a

Re: [biofuel] help finding IDI

2003-08-26 Thread craigreece
Ford 6.9 and 7.3 vans are IDI, as are Chevy and GMC 6.2 and 6.5 vans. SUV's you've got Chevy and GMC Suburbans with the 6.2 and 6.5, and the occasional Tahoe with the 6.5, some Blazers with the 6.2. IDI Nissan 6's in the IH Scouts, diesel Isuzu Troopers, Land Rover 2.5 NA diesels, all IDI. Elsbe

Re: [biofuel] Testing of biodiesel

2003-08-26 Thread Andreas W Ohnsorge
I found some in Germany - they are usually testing large biodiesel batches and are quite expensive (around 800 Euros for a full test). If you don't want to sell the stuff you should consider testing only the really important variables (glycerides,...) which is a gaschromatography test and that w

Re: [biofuel] milk fat

2003-08-26 Thread Neoteric Biofuels Inc
Yes. http://www.ecoliving.co.nz/Ecoliving/mag/issue4/Biodiesel%20- %20The%20Fuel%20of%20the%20Future.htm On Monday, August 25, 2003, at 07:56 PM, carreragt41991 wrote: > Hi, > Can I use cow's milk fat to make biodiesel. > Thanks > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ---

Re: [biofuel] Testing of biodiesel

2003-08-26 Thread Neoteric Biofuels Inc
Check ASTM for listings of local labs equipped to do some or all of the tests for the ASTM biodiesel standards, then contact them for quotes. This may help: http://www.astm.org/cgi-bin/SoftCart.exe/LABS/ search.html?L+mystore+xbff5197 On Monday, August 25, 2003, at 07:39 PM, [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: [biofuel] help finding IDI

2003-08-26 Thread Neoteric Biofuels Inc
Please have a look at our site, we make kits for this and have an FAQ there, also much info on the JTF site. http://www.biofuels.ca http://www.journeytoforever.org Where are you located? On Monday, August 25, 2003, at 09:27 PM, futureveggiedriver wrote: > I'm a newbie here and I have been

Re: [biofuel] Testing of biodiesel

2003-08-26 Thread Neoteric Biofuels Inc
http://www.astm.org/ verity_hist.cgi?UserQuery=BIODIESEL&SEARCH_COLLECTION=ACTIVE_REDLINE&SEA RCH_STATUS=ALL&MARKETING_CODE=GP1&NS-search-type=Free+text&NS-max- records=5&NS-search-type=boolean&NS- query=BIODIESEL+AND+NOT+%28STATUS+%3CNEAR%2F1%3E+REPLACED%29&CART_NAME=x bff5197&STORE_NAME=mys

Re: [biofuel] Testing of biodiesel

2003-08-26 Thread Jack Kenworthy
Analytical Testing Services in Franklin, PA will test it for you if you send them a 1 gallon sample, to meet ASTM 6751-03, for $972.00 all inclusive - it ain't cheap. their contact: 814-432-9424 [EMAIL PROTECTED] cheers, Jack Jack Kenworthy Sustainable Systems Director The Cape Eleuthera Is

[biofuel] UPDATE: Use of vegetable oil in a diesel engine

2003-08-26 Thread Detrick Merz
A few months ago (May 2003), I started a thread about the legalities relating to the use of VO in a diesel engine in the U.S. This eventually led to the discovery, that the U.S. EPA wants certain emissions test results, to recognize VO as a legal motor fuel. Biodiesel went through this proces

[biofuel] Iodine

2003-08-26 Thread Pedro M.V.
I have read some vegoils have more iodine than others. Sunflower oil has too much iodine ( according with European Union rules). Can somebody send vegoil list ( prefererly producable in Spain ) with the iodine content of some of them. I have to send the list to an interested biodiesel produc

Re: [biofuel] Testing of biodiesel

2003-08-26 Thread DokDream
In a message dated 8/25/03 11:14:26 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Is there any lab that will test a sample of hombrewed bioD to see if it > meets specs? I appreciate it > J.D. I can analyze it for you by infrared spectroscopy. Send a sample plus a sample of the spec f

Re: [biofuel] UPDATE: Use of vegetable oil in a diesel engine

2003-08-26 Thread Hakan Falk
Detrick, I think that it is very commendable of you, to want to go through this kind of efforts. It is however not without a special reflection that I read about all the efforts that you are to embark on. Is it not remarkable that a Nation that will spend billions of $ on Hydrogen, must relay

[biofuel] The Tango

2003-08-26 Thread murdoch
A few things about the Tango: Part of Rick Woodbury's idea is to help crowded municipalities address traffic issues, because more than one such vehicle can occupy a lane, like a motorcycle. Unlike a motorcycle, it has four wheels and unlike a narrow regular car, it is very hard to tip over bec

Re: [biofuel] Insurers Face Global Warming

2003-08-26 Thread Sid4Salmon
Dear Fellows and Friends: Subj: Global Warming. URL: www.hometown.aol.com/sid4salmon (project discussion). Bill Clark's discussion was interesting and I am in general agreement. One point that crossed my mind was about Ozone and it's depleted state. In an energy balance consideration, where

[biofuel] Ozone again.

2003-08-26 Thread Sid4Salmon
International Ozone Day September 16, to focus attention on efforts to preserve the ozone layer in the atmosphere. http://www.unep.org/ozone/ozone_day2003/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Buy Ink Ca

Re: [biofuel] Testing of biodiesel

2003-08-26 Thread Pedro M.V.
About gas chromatography : http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromatography#Gas_chromatography - Original Message - From: Andreas W Ohnsorge To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 9:02 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Testing of biodiesel I found some in Germ

RE: [biofuel] help finding IDI

2003-08-26 Thread Juan Boveda
Hello. Some IDI engines are the Nissan SD 33, 3.3 Litre, 6 in line, there are naturally aspirated and turbo models, no synchronization cam shaft belt (with tooth) to change or worry about as well as the Nissan TD 27, a 4 cyl. in line 2.7 Litre. The first equiped old japanese Nissan Patrol ( o

Re: [biofuel] Testing of biodiesel

2003-08-26 Thread Pedro M.V.
Good idea. But I think standard (petrol) bodies includes difficult and expensive test to obstruct homebrewed biodiesel ( the best test it«s the engine test and clean cylinders from time to time). For small industrial production is another think. One could analize in different ways the produc

Re: [biofuel] Testing of biodiesel II

2003-08-26 Thread Pedro M.V.
How does one call the more complete industrial biodesel test??? Regards. Elabore caseramente biodiesel para su actual motor de gasoil petrol’fero La soluci—n a sus problemas energŽticos. http://www.enlazando.com/energia http://journeytoforever.org/energiaweb/ - Original Message -

[biofuel] Re: UPDATE: Use of vegetable oil in a diesel engine

2003-08-26 Thread girl_mark_fire
Can someone please post again the thread about the possible small-scale biodiesel producer exemptions from the NBB membership/health effects testing requirements? I might have found some more information relevant to this issue while I was at the Iowa State biodiesel workshops last week. I ac

Re: [biofuel] Insurers Face Global Warming

2003-08-26 Thread murdoch
> This graph shows the increase in the atmospheric concentration of > Carbon dioxide (CO2), methane (CH4) and Antarctic temperature from > 420,000 years ago until prior to the industrial revolution. > The grey color represents CO2 concentrations, and the scale on the > far left refers to the

[biofuel] The contribution of forestry to food security

2003-08-26 Thread Keith Addison
Forestry and fuel wood is a regular topic, and so are oil-bearing trees such as jatropha, and others (below), and of course oil palm and coconut. I think there's also growing acceptance of the idea (fact!) that sustainable fuels production has to be a part of a sustainable agriculture, for man

[biofuel] Re: Iodine

2003-08-26 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Pedro >I have read some vegoils have more iodine than others. Sunflower oil >has too much iodine ( according with European Union rules). > >Can somebody send vegoil list ( prefererly producable in Spain ) >with the iodine content of some of them. > >I have to send the list to an interested

[biofuel] Biodiesel Coop

2003-08-26 Thread huhcs
Hi Everyone, I have been producing Biodiesel for almost a year now and would like to expand to a Coop structure to get more fuel out to users. I am located in Northeasern WI, USA. Anyone interested in checking this out or getting involved can contact me at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please supply

Re: [biofuel] Iodine

2003-08-26 Thread Sid4Salmon
In a message dated 8/26/2003 2:37:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I have read some vegoils have more iodine than others. Sunflower oil has > too much iodine ( according with European Union rules). Dear Fellows and Friends: This statement cause me to recall that in th

[biofuel] Re: UPDATE: Use of vegetable oil in a diesel engine

2003-08-26 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Mark >Can someone please post again the thread about the possible >small-scale biodiesel producer exemptions from the NBB >membership/health effects testing requirements? I might have found >some more information relevant to this issue while I was at the Iowa >State biodiesel workshops last

[biofuel] NBB and small producers

2003-08-26 Thread Keith Addison
As requested by Mark, I'm reposting this summary of the NBB and EPA "hassle" for small producers in the US, first posted in May this year, previously called "NBB and health effects data". Best Keith Addison There's been a lot of discussion here and elsewhere about small-producer certificat

Re: [biofuel] Biodiesel Coop

2003-08-26 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Ed >Hi Everyone, > >I have been producing Biodiesel for almost a year now and would like to >expand to a Coop structure to get more fuel out to users. > >I am located in Northeasern WI, USA. Anyone interested in checking this out >or getting involved can contact me at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Pl

Re: [biofuel] Testing of biodiesel

2003-08-26 Thread Bob Allen
Just curious, what will you be measuring by IR spectroscopy? I ran virgin vegetable oil, pure FAME, and used vegetable oil and they are essentially indistinguishable. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I can analyze it for you by infrared spectroscopy. Send a sample plus a > sample of the spec

[biofuel] sub-zero biodieselers?

2003-08-26 Thread Kaj
Hi, I am about to begin my first winter with Biodiesel and have read up on the higher cloud point issues etc. I have a 1980 MB 300TD. In Vermont we will have steady temparatures well below freezing and intermittent cold spells that will see overnight lows as cold as -30 F. I was pleased to see

Re: [biofuel] Testing of biodiesel

2003-08-26 Thread Keith Addison
Bob Allen wrote: >Just curious, what will you be measuring by IR spectroscopy? I ran >virgin vegetable oil, pure FAME, and used vegetable oil and they are >essentially indistinguishable. A chemist, who quotes Frank Zappa to boot! Welcome! :-) And all this time I thought it was excentrifugal fo

Re: [biofuel] NBB and small producers

2003-08-26 Thread Greg and April
There should not be any tax on BioDiesel at all, until it's use equals or exceeds that of DinoDiesel and gasoline, and even then none at all unless a threshold amount is produced / used, this way the household producer/user would not get reamed. Greg H. - Original Message - From: "Keith

Re: Fwd: [biofuel] Insurers Face Global Warming

2003-08-26 Thread Keith Addison
Hi MM and all > >Climatologists give waterworld warning for Earth > >26 April 2003 > >Some interesting points. > >I think esbuck's claim that we can't know if there's really any >correlation between global warming and human actions is one we might >hear again from the U.S., as it comes under tarr

Re: [biofuel] NBB and small producers

2003-08-26 Thread Hakan Falk
Greg and Keith, Fuel taxation must have some goals and be designed to further those, without having serious ramifications on the economy. Vehicles and taxation for biofuels in developing countries. http://energy.saving.nu/vehicles/taxes.shtml Hakan At 04:12 PM 8/26/2003 -0600, you wrote: >Th

[biofuel] Report finds EPA lacked data to support its claims for relaxing air pollution rules

2003-08-26 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2003/08/26/f inancial0313EDT0009.DTL Report finds EPA lacked data to support its claims for relaxing air pollution rules JOHN HEILPRIN, Associated Press Writer Tuesday, August 26, 2003 WASHINGTON (AP) -- Congressional investigators s

[biofuel] GAO Cites Corporate Shaping of Energy Plan

2003-08-26 Thread Keith Addison
See also: http://www.enn.com/news/2003-08-26/s_7794.asp Cheney stifled energy probe, GAO investigators say Tuesday, August 26, 2003 Reuters http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A44891-2003Aug25.html GAO Cites Corporate Shaping of Energy Plan By Mike Allen Washington Post Staff Writer

[biofuel] Green light for ethanol-blended petrol

2003-08-26 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/BU0308/S00233.htm Green light for ethanol-blended petrol Tuesday, 26 August 2003, 2:41 pm New Zealand has entered an exciting new era in renewable energy and transport fuels with the granting of approval to blend petrol with ethanol. This is an important s

[biofuel] Fuel/ Water Separator for 1979 Mercedes 300 D

2003-08-26 Thread dave01632002
Hello, I recently purchased a 1979 Mercedes 300 D and found that it has a Fuel/ Water separator. I can't find anything about this in my Haynes Manual. Is this necessary, and if so what will biodiesel do to it? I am making B100 to run in the car. Thanks, Dave Ya

[biofuel] Emailing: lurgi_completes_one_of_the_largest_biodiesel_plants_in_germany_considerable_market_growth_for_biodiesel_fuels_expected

2003-08-26 Thread Marcelino Miranda
Lurgi completes one of the largest biodiesel plants in Germany / Considerable market growth for biodiesel fuels expectedDear friends, I found this old note, I don't remember having seen it before. Anyhow, I think is useful. Marcelino Press

Re: Fwd: [biofuel] Insurers Face Global Warming

2003-08-26 Thread murdoch
>You might be interested in this, from New Zealand: > >http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/BU0308/S00222.htm > >Climate change: liability looms for directors > >Tuesday, 26 August 2003, 8:50 am >Press Release: Phillip Fox One thing that comes to mind is that New Zealand taxpayers are already bea

[biofuel] sustainable Bison Ranching and Other land use attempted

2003-08-26 Thread murdoch
http://www.tedturner.com/enterprises_properties.html > >With approximately 2 million acres of land, Worth Magazine listed Ted Turner >as the largest individual landholder in the United States. Turner lands are >innovatively managed and work to partner economic viability with ecological >susta

Re: [biofuel] Testing of biodiesel

2003-08-26 Thread DokDream
In a message dated 8/26/03 2:39:24 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Bob Allen wrote: > > >Just curious, what will you be measuring by IR spectroscopy? I ran > >virgin vegetable oil, pure FAME, and used vegetable oil and they are > >essentially indistinguishable. > > A che

Re: [biofuel] Iodine

2003-08-26 Thread DokDream
In a message dated 8/26/03 11:54:16 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > In a message dated 8/26/2003 2:37:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > >I have read some vegoils have more iodine than others. Sunflower oil has > >too much iodine ( according wi

[biofuel] FOE/GP PRESS RELEASE: GMOs

2003-08-26 Thread Hakan Falk
Forwarded from [environmentaljournalists] >PRESS RELEASE > > >Friends of the Earth Europe and Greenpeace > >Immediate release - Tuesday 26 August > > >FAILING IN THE FIELD > >GM crops in Spain don't deliver promises, but harm farmers and

[biofuels-biz] Fwd: [biofuel] International Biodiesel Day

2003-08-26 Thread Keith Addison
Fwd message from Pedro to the Biofuel list (Pedro runs the Spanish-language biodiesel section at Journey to Forever). >To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com >From: "pmacv" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 00:00:11 - >Subject: [biofuel] International Biodiesel Day > >http://www.wikipedia.org

Re: [biofuels-biz] WWF welcomes first steps towards sustainable palm oil

2003-08-26 Thread Ken Gotberg
Keith Thanks for this info. It is true that every year there are forest fires in Sumatra and Kalimantan caused by clearing for palm oil plantations. Neighboring countries of Singapore, Malaysia, and sometimes Thailand complain every year about air pollution from Indonesia. The government seems

[biofuels-biz] The contribution of forestry to food security

2003-08-26 Thread Keith Addison
Forestry and fuel wood is a regular topic, and so are oil-bearing trees such as jatropha, and others (below), and of course oil palm and coconut. I think there's also growing acceptance of the idea (fact!) that sustainable fuels production has to be a part of a sustainable agriculture, for man

[biofuels-biz] NBB and small producers

2003-08-26 Thread Keith Addison
As requested by Mark, I'm reposting this summary of the NBB and EPA "hassle" for small producers in the US, first posted in May this year, previously called "NBB and health effects data". Best Keith Addison There's been a lot of discussion here and elsewhere about small-producer certificat

[biofuels-biz] Re: Fwd: [biofuel] Insurers Face Global Warming

2003-08-26 Thread Keith Addison
Hi MM and all > >Climatologists give waterworld warning for Earth > >26 April 2003 > >Some interesting points. > >I think esbuck's claim that we can't know if there's really any >correlation between global warming and human actions is one we might >hear again from the U.S., as it comes under tarr

Re: [biofuels-biz] WWF welcomes first steps towards sustainable palm oil

2003-08-26 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Ken >Keith > >Thanks for this info. It is true that every year >there are forest fires in Sumatra and Kalimantan >caused by clearing for palm oil plantations. >Neighboring countries of Singapore, Malaysia, and >sometimes Thailand complain every year about air >pollution from Indonesia. The g

[biofuels-biz] Report finds EPA lacked data to support its claims for relaxing air pollution rules

2003-08-26 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2003/08/26/f inancial0313EDT0009.DTL Report finds EPA lacked data to support its claims for relaxing air pollution rules JOHN HEILPRIN, Associated Press Writer Tuesday, August 26, 2003 WASHINGTON (AP) -- Congressional investigators s

[biofuels-biz] GAO Cites Corporate Shaping of Energy Plan

2003-08-26 Thread Keith Addison
See also: http://www.enn.com/news/2003-08-26/s_7794.asp Cheney stifled energy probe, GAO investigators say Tuesday, August 26, 2003 Reuters http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A44891-2003Aug25.html GAO Cites Corporate Shaping of Energy Plan By Mike Allen Washington Post Staff Writer

[biofuels-biz] Green light for ethanol-blended petrol

2003-08-26 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/BU0308/S00233.htm Green light for ethanol-blended petrol Tuesday, 26 August 2003, 2:41 pm New Zealand has entered an exciting new era in renewable energy and transport fuels with the granting of approval to blend petrol with ethanol. This is an important s

Emailing: lurgi_completes_one_of_the_largest_biodiesel_plants_in_germany_considerable_market_growth_for_biodiesel_fuels_expected

2003-08-26 Thread Marcelino Miranda
Title: Lurgi completes one of the largest biodiesel plants in Germany / Considerable market growth for biodiesel fuels expected Dear friends, I found this old note, I don't remember having seen it before. Anyhow, I think is useful. Marcelino

[biofuels-biz] WVO adventure: learning the hard way

2003-08-26 Thread Eric Chrisp
Did a little experiment and wanted to document my results. Before anyone flames me for being stupid I just want to acknowledge that my plan was poorly researched and conceived, based on next to no background in diesel mechanics. That being said I feel that my experience has value and might prevent