Re: [biofuel] (fwd) What's in a Gallon of Gas?

2004-03-29 Thread Martin Klingensmith
I think we've talked about this before. I am skeptical of the value of this comparison. For example, in 27 grams of aluminum, there are ~~600,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 atoms. Interesting to know, but only useful to a scientist/engineer. In the biomass -> gasoline comparison, they say

[biofuel] Re: Can I please get some help ?

2004-03-29 Thread skillshare
I sometimes also get that 'salt' looking thing that Pieter is talking about. Mine falls out at the end of the acid stage if I let it sit for a few days. mark - I can't imagine anything that would separate the > NaOH unless you didn't mix it thoroughly in the first place. Acid > would separat

Re: [biofuel] Re: Corporate ethics

2004-03-29 Thread dcande01
Have you noticed that the american tabloids don't touch much on politics? Fred On Monday, Mar 29, 2004, at 02:49 US/Eastern, Tad Johnson wrote: > >> If I wanted SPIN I would read the National Enquirer. > > "The Guardian" might as well be the National Inquirer, and everyone > over there > seem

[biofuel] For attention J. Curtis Cheney, VII - was Re: Corporate ethics

2004-03-29 Thread Keith Addison
>Tad, > >I agree. Less politics and more biodiesel. > > >Cheers, > >J. Curtis Cheney, VII Curtis, you've been here long enough to know how this list works. This issue has come up before during that time, moderator's messages have been posted on it, headed PLEASE READ... etc. If you don't read

Re: [biofuel] Re: Corporate ethics

2004-03-29 Thread Keith Addison
Further to which... http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=18259 The Christian Taliban Best Keith > >Some really sick crap.. > > > >http://www.cdfe.org/ > > > >Pick a link. According to these asinigned zealots the sypmtoms are the cause > >of the disease. > >Some of them may be zealo

Re: [biofuel] Standard method for making biodiesel

2004-03-29 Thread Keith Addison
>Is there any method set as a standard for producing biodiesel? > >If so where can i get info about that method? > >If there is no standard method, which is the efficient method to get the >biodiesel from straight vegetable oil. Is it Aleks kac's Fool Proof Method? > >Please help! > >Prathap Hell

[biofuel] Alternative health and nutrition information

2004-03-29 Thread lovemydiesel2003
Firstly, I would like to say thank you to Keith for his invitation to post this URL, and now the link; http://www.liferesearchuniversal.com/health.html#apple It contains caloric values, charts and other health and nutrition information not generally in the mainstream and at times debunks much o

Re: [biofuel] Re: Corporate ethics

2004-03-29 Thread Keith Addison
Well again Tad... Seems I was right about Mr Murdoch, sad. You're obviously well-intentioned, but I'm afraid many of those very same good intentions have been paving other people's roads to hell for quite a long time. All the myths of Middle America, eh? I'll have to respond to some of them,

Re: [biofuel] Can I please get some help ?

2004-03-29 Thread Keith Addison
Dag Pieter >Hi all. >Yesterday and today I made my first batch of BD using the foolproof method. >Neither in the acid stage, nor in the second stage any separation occured. >The methanol is floating on the top and the whole lot looks like coffee with >too much milk in it. >At the bottom I find so

Re: [biofuel] Re: Corporate ethics

2004-03-29 Thread alex
This is what's keeps bugging me. At the pump diesel fuel is 66 C (Cdn) per litre. Bulk canola oil, grown here, in Ontario, $1.27 per litre , in 55 gal barrels (I have to pick it up). There seems to be a huge disparity in cost. At one end , its a processed diesel fuel, byproduct of crude oil, whi

Re: [biofuel] methanol recovery before separation

2004-03-29 Thread Kenneth Kron
Catching up on ancient email. If one continues mixing until the reaction is complete and I have not heard of any evidence that indicates separation is required for the reaction to complete and then introduces into the reactor enough acid to quench the sodium catalyst then I see no reason why y

[biofuel] Re: Standard method for making biodiesel

2004-03-29 Thread pizzacatzo
Hi Prathap, As Keith would say 'there is no one right way to make biodiesel' Basically you need some kind of fat, whether it be animal or vegetable, liquid or solid and make methyl esters out of it... but using ethanol or methanol and either a base like Caustic Soda. Naturally someone will po

[biofuel] Re:I am only in search on how to make methanol

2004-03-29 Thread Burnett378
I will like to know how to make methanol and the possible efects on my car. Thank you. William Burnett [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or

Re: [biofuel] hydrogen

2004-03-29 Thread Greg and April
You mean like it is a cryogenic fluid when stored as a liquid? Greg H. - Original Message - From: brainchild0069 To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 15:12 Subject: [biofuel] hydrogen Does anybody know what are the hazards of storing and using hydrogen

Re: [biofuel] Re: Corporate ethics

2004-03-29 Thread robert luis rabello
Tad Johnson wrote: > I was quite surprised that a > list of > this subject (biodiesel) would contain anything political, nor why > there > would be > any reason for it to contain political propaganda. First of all, the subject of this list is NOT exclusive to biodiesel. Secondly, it is i

Re[2]: [biofuel] Re: Corporate ethics

2004-03-29 Thread Gustl Steiner-Zehender
Hallo Tad, Monday, 29 March, 2004, 06:44:21, you wrote: ...snip... TJ> Do we simply sit back and watch this happen every few years and TJ> not do anything about it? Is it somehow our fault that we were TJ> attacked on 9-11? Is it ok for terrorists to attack and kill not TJ> only Ameri

Re: [biofuel] Re: Corporate ethics

2004-03-29 Thread Appal Energy
So it's acceptable to spread mis-information, knowingly or not, and once that's done the delcaration that everyone should return to all matters of biofuels and cease and desist with what the poster deems to be irrelevant should be adhered to? Don't think life works that way in the real world. You

Re: [biofuel] Re: Corporate ethics

2004-03-29 Thread Appal Energy
Tad, So you can't see how broadly dispersed and surgically placed mis- and dis-information at the executive levels of corporations and political circles has anything to do with biofuels? H. Then it's a fair guess that you also wouldn't be able to see a direct link to the elaborately construc

Re: [biofuel] Re: Corporate ethics

2004-03-29 Thread J. Curtis Cheney, VII
Tad, I agree. Less politics and more biodiesel. Cheers, J. Curtis Cheney, VII Tad Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Well Tad, I've no wish to be antagonistic, but then you've been >antagonistic, haven't you? I was posting a humorous view of your posting. I was quite surprised that a

Re: [biofuel] Re: Corporate ethics

2004-03-29 Thread Tad Johnson
>Well Tad, I've no wish to be antagonistic, but then you've been >antagonistic, haven't you? I was posting a humorous view of your posting. I was quite surprised that a list of this subject (biodiesel) would contain anything political, nor why there would be any reason for it to contain politi

[biofuel] Standard method for making biodiesel

2004-03-29 Thread Prathap CN
Is there any method set as a standard for producing biodiesel? If so where can i get info about that method? If there is no standard method, which is the efficient method to get the biodiesel from straight vegetable oil. Is it Aleks kac's Fool Proof Method? Please help! Prathap

Re: [biofuel] Re: Corporate ethics

2004-03-29 Thread Keith Addison
> >If I wanted SPIN I would read the National Enquirer. > >"The Guardian" might as well be the National Inquirer, and everyone over there >seems to bask in the conspiracy theories and the extreme left, taking both as >the ultimate truth. Actually all the articles I've read on the "The >Guardian" m

Re: [biofuel] Immersion heater - please help

2004-03-29 Thread Keith Addison
lovemydiesel2003 wrote: >Is the one used in the 5 gal procesor at Journey to Forever a >straight water heater type ? It's an immersion heater, for water, yes. >How hot can it get (in C degrees)? Much too hot. As it says, it's 1.5kw, and 500w would be enough. >Is it a screw in type ? Yes, you

Re: [biofuel] Re: Corporate ethics

2004-03-29 Thread Keith Addison
Mr Little >Mr. Addison, >You seem to have a lot of pent up hostility! Do I now. You haven't though, eh? Well, there wasn't any hostility, nor is there now, but I'll admit to a little impatience - never mind, it'll pass. All this means: "You seem to have a lot of pent up hostility!" is that y

Re: [biofuel] Perkins Engines on Biodiesel

2004-03-29 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Lillie >Here is a response I got from Perkins Engines; I don't understand everything >they said but am left with the feeling they aren't happy with biodiesel? > > > >This product bulletin has been produced in order to provide you with the >latest information regarding the issuing of a Commo

Re: [biofuel] Monsanto ect...

2004-03-29 Thread Keith Addison
Well, lovemydiesel2003, thanks for the encouragement! You can give us your website url if you like, I think quite a lot of folks here would be interested. Best Keith >Well, Keith, I have to say that I am now happier than ever to have >found biofuels and this forum and Journey to Forever. >Th

Re: [biofuel] Pumps

2004-03-29 Thread Keith Addison
lovemydiesel2003 wrote: >If I were to change my thinking about a variable speed drill type >mixer and go to a pump, would an ordinary washing machine water pump >do the job ? Yes. Lucky you - that's another thing apart from immersion heaters that doesn't happen in Japan: washing machines here d

Re: [biofuel] repost/:shelflife.

2004-03-29 Thread Keith Addison
brainchild0069 wrote: >I'm reposting this question,as I didn't get an answer before.Does >anyone know the shelf life (or storage life) of biodeisel and ethanol? >I hope someone can help me. Re biodiesel, industry advice is not to store it for longer than six months, or 12 months in some cases.

Re: [biofuel] Re: Corporate ethics

2004-03-29 Thread Tad Johnson
>If I wanted SPIN I would read the National Enquirer. "The Guardian" might as well be the National Inquirer, and everyone over there seems to bask in the conspiracy theories and the extreme left, taking both as the ultimate truth. Actually all the articles I've read on the "The Guardian" make "

[biofuel] Re: hydrogen

2004-03-29 Thread tomasjkn
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Tad Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 10:12 PM 3/28/2004 +, you wrote: > > Same for any gas except it has the fastest rate of explosion of any gas > when combined with oxygen. Hmmm, there are also the metal enbritlement problems and containment problems

[biofuel] Re: How true?

2004-03-29 Thread tomasjkn
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, "entrephil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello to all. I would like to ask if this is true. > > Coco-diesel of Philippines is more superior than soya-diesel of US > and rapeseed-diesel of Europe. > > Thanks and regards. > > Romy-ENTREPhil Hi, This is or is not

Re: [biofuel] hydrogen

2004-03-29 Thread Tad Johnson
At 10:12 PM 3/28/2004 +, you wrote: >Does anybody know what are the hazards of storing and using hydrogen? Same for any gas except it has the fastest rate of explosion of any gas when combined with oxygen. Just like any gas it must be storage without the presence of any other gas except may

Re: [biofuel] Re: Corporate ethics

2004-03-29 Thread Bearpaw850
Mr. Addison, You seem to have a lot of pent up hostility! Again I have worked in and around industrial plants for 25 years, and I have had the misfortune of losing good men to an industrial accident, as well as having a disgruntled employee sabatoge a volatile process. I have been investigated

[biofuel] Pumps

2004-03-29 Thread lovemydiesel2003
If I were to change my thinking about a variable speed drill type mixer and go to a pump, would an ordinary washing machine water pump do the job ? Monday I hear about a continuous supply of lye (sodium hydroxide)and I need to know about this and the other posts before going ahead with the bui

[biofuel] [Fwd: "Cold fusion and geophysics: the current situation"]

2004-03-29 Thread alex
Re:Cold fusion - from Nuenergy list. Alex Original Message Subject:"Cold fusion and geophysics: the current situation" Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 20:39:47 -0500 From: Nu Energy Research Laboratories <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Nu Energy Research Laboratories <[EM

[biofuel] Immersion heater - please help

2004-03-29 Thread lovemydiesel2003
Is the one used in the 5 gal procesor at Journey to Forever a straight water heater type ? How hot can it get (in C degrees)? Is it a screw in type ? Is it 110V ? Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/bi