[biofuel] Re: Biodiesel vs Gasoline Emissions per mi

2004-09-02 Thread Dave Shaw
Hi J.D. Lively, civil and more! I'd love to see or hear of any specific studies you've come across. Searching the internet yields mostly articles about how, though clean-diesel has washed away some of the dirty-diesel blues, diesel is still dirtier than gasoline. I'm not stopping there though.

RE: [biofuel] Biodiesel in Thailand.- Biodiesel is irrelevant without an abundant feedstock.

2004-09-02 Thread Peggy
Hello Peter, It is possible to make fuel ethanol from discarded paper and food waste (non-dairy and no meat) making fuel ethanol another alternative to biodiesel as well. Peggy Hi Caleb ;; I agree with you 100% about used frying oil being a questionable feedstock. There simply isn't enough

Re: [biofuel] Re: Pump Washing of biodiesel

2004-09-02 Thread Andrew Lowe
Greg Harbican wrote: What I was thinking, is instead of stirring the mix, using a pump to pump from the bottom of the tank into the top of the tank.If oil / methoxide mix is coming in at a slight angle so that it gets the entire tank of oil to moving around the tank, that would be just

[biofuel] Four deals signed to boost biofuel ventures - Thailand

2004-09-02 Thread Conrado S Heruela
The Bangkok Post BUSINESS NEWS - Wednesday 01 September 2004 News list 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 Previous story Next story ENERGY - ALTERNATIVE FUELS Four deals signed to boost biofuel ventures YUTHANA

Re: [biofuel] Re: Biodiesel vs Gasoline Emissions per mi

2004-09-02 Thread Hakan Falk
It is studies done in Switzerland and France, earlier mentioned on the list and can probably be found in the archives. Cancer causing particulates with less than 2.5 micron was worst for diesel with exhaust filter. Gasoline and diesel without filter was better, with a disadvantage for diesel.

Re: [biofuel] Re: Biodiesel vs Gasoline Emissions per mi

2004-09-02 Thread kline
Hi J.D. Lively, civil and more! I'd love to see or hear of any specific studies you've come across. Searching the internet yields mostly articles about how, though clean-diesel has washed away some of the dirty-diesel blues, diesel is still dirtier than gasoline. I'm not stopping there

[biofuel] Oil rally not enough to spur renewables investment

2004-09-02 Thread Conrado S Heruela
Oil rally not enough to spur renewables investment LONDON - Investment in renewables is unlikely to be spurred by this

[biofuel] Bangkok Statement on Biofuel: 30 - 31 August 2004, Bangkok, Thailand

2004-09-02 Thread Conrado S Heruela
Bangkok Statement on Biofuel: 30 - 31 August 2004, Bangkok, Thailand Challenges for Asian Future 1. We, delegates from Brazil, Cambodia, the People's Republic of China, Germany, Indonesia, Japan, the Republic of Korea, Laos, Malaysia, Myanmar, the Philippines, Singapore, Thailand and

RE: [biofuel] Re: Pump Washing of biodiesel

2004-09-02 Thread bioteo
But isnt the mixing period long enough? Say you mix for a whole day would it still be uneven? What im really asking is this caused because of mechanical factors or because a chemical reaction takes place, too much methroxide exposed to too little oil... Just trying to get a better understanding

[biofuel] Girl Mark discussion - links

2004-09-02 Thread Keith Addison
Here are the links to the main messages posted in the recent row here with Maria Girl Mark Alovert, in sequence, for future reference. Some of the dates are out of order because of time zone differences. I've left out the mere noise contributed by people like Terry No-name. It is complex, or

RE: [biofuel] Re: Pump Washing of biodiesel

2004-09-02 Thread Teoman Naskali
Did you by any chance get a vaccum in the washer? In one of my batches where I probably had an incomplete reaction I got a vaccum while I tried to wash it. Teoman Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion

RE: [biofuel] Biodiesel in Thailand.- Biodiesel is irrelevant without an abundant feedstock.

2004-09-02 Thread Guag Meister
Hi Peggy ; Yes I bought a small autoclave to try out converting waste cardboard to ethanol by dilute acid hydrolysis. Truckloads of cardboard waste from all over Cambodia come back to Thailand through Poipet for recycling. It can be had for 2 baht/kg (about $0.05 per kg). Now that is a cheap

Re: [biofuel] Re: Pump Washing of biodiesel

2004-09-02 Thread Greg Harbican
Works for me as well. Greg H. - Original Message - From: Andrew Lowe To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 19:53 Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: Pump Washing of biodiesel Why not take things a step further by switching on the pump before the

Re: [biofuel] Old propane tanks

2004-09-02 Thread Greg Harbican
Final count, 6 100 lb bottles ( 2 partially filled with propane in them - 3 without valves ), 1 20 lb bottle, 1 30 lb bottle, and 1 40 lb bottle. The last 3 100 lb bottles didn't have valves but one had a valve collar, and were free, the company was retiring them, due only to age, and not due

Re: [biofuel] Re: Biodiesel vs Gasoline Emissions per mi

2004-09-02 Thread Keith Addison
Hello J.D., Dave Hi J.D. Lively, civil and more! I'd love to see or hear of any specific studies you've come across. Searching the internet yields mostly articles about how, though clean-diesel has washed away some of the dirty-diesel blues, diesel is still dirtier than gasoline.

RE: [biofuel] Biodiesel in Thailand.- Biodiesel is irrelevant without an abundant feedstock.

2004-09-02 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Peggy, Peter, Caleb and all Hello Peter, It is possible to make fuel ethanol from discarded paper and food waste (non-dairy and no meat) making fuel ethanol another alternative to biodiesel as well. Peggy Indeed - and the more localised the approach, down to community, farm and even

Re: [biofuel] Biodiesel vs Gasoline Emissions per mi

2004-09-02 Thread Appal Energy
Lurch, And now for a simple question. If the MG and DG are forming emulsion during the wash cycle, if the emulsion is drained off wouldn't that leave behind fuel that had MG and DG removed and hence better quality fuel? Perhaps a fair theory, but there would still be an unquantified amount of

Re: [biofuel] Re: Environment

2004-09-02 Thread DokDream
Dave Hanna - I think you miss the point. Oxidation of any carbon-compound releases carbon dioxide. It includes combustion of fuels, weathering of wood -- even exchange of gases from human metabolism. I'm not one to tell you to stop breathing to reduce the carbon dioxide build up in the

Re: [biofuel] Old propane tanks

2004-09-02 Thread Greg Harbican
It wasn't the valves, but, the valve covers, they were lightly rusted in place ( couldn't get to the valves ). It is now a non-issue anyway, a little WD-40, ATF, and Elbow Grease, worked just right. Greg H. - Original Message - From: Martin Klingensmith To:

[biofuel] light to energy

2004-09-02 Thread tallex2002
Hi all, Very interesting tech links. Brewer Light to Energy Research Projects http://www.chem.vt.edu/chem-dept/brewer/energyresearch.htm Molecular Assemblies Created To Convert Water To Hydrogen Gas http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/08/040826090919.htm regards Get your

Re: [biofuel] Re: Pump Washing of biodiesel

2004-09-02 Thread Greg Harbican
Do you have a diagram showing how the Methoxide is sucked from the carboy and the WVO is being pumped through the processor? I am imagining a venturi like device, that the WVO is going through, drawing the Methoxide in at a preset ( or adjustable ) rate. Greg H. - Original Message

[biofuel] Re: Pump Washing of biodiesel

2004-09-02 Thread bioveging
Good catch Andrew. If memory serves me properly that is exactly the way it is done with the 90 liter at JtF. http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor10.html I have mine set up to be gradually introduced with air assist should the check valve get finicky about opening. I have

[biofuel] Re: Pump Washing of biodiesel

2004-09-02 Thread bioveging
I have done this very thing with a 40 liter batch and washed it in a poly drum (200liter) using a standard paint stirrer on the end of a standard drill and got excellent fuel from it (it's all gone now thanks to the Benz) :) Tonight I am going to acquire a Pony Pump and once that gets set up

[biofuel] The VeggieGen is coming!

2004-09-02 Thread Steve Spence
Green-Trust's combined heat power system is under construction. The core of the system is a Detroit Diesel 2-71 12.5kw water cooled diesel generator provided by Affordable Power. This is fueled with a veggie oil conversion system by Greasel. The cooling system pre- heats our domestic hot water

Re: [biofuel] Old propane tanks

2004-09-02 Thread Doug Foskey
I have used this to refill small camping cylinders. This process needs to be performed in a well ventillated area, away from flames, etc. Perform this at your own risk. If you can get the valve open, it may be possible to decant into another empty bottle. To achieve this, it would be

Re: [biofuel] Re: Pump Washing of biodiesel

2004-09-02 Thread Kenneth Kron
Dermot, Your problem could also be soap production which would not be detectable from any of your tests, other than the pump washing test and would present in a complete straight base reaction. You might try acidfying the BD to convert soap to ffa's then washing. Kenneth dermot wrote:

[biofuel] photosythesis in a cup/Green slime

2004-09-02 Thread tallex2002
Photosynthesis in a cup http://tinyurl.com/6a5vg New technology unveiled that turns green slime and exhaust into cleaner air and energy http://www.greenfuelonline.com/news3.htm regards Get your daily alternative energy news http://groups.yahoo.com/group/next_generation_grid/

[biofuel] pump size

2004-09-02 Thread pivincent
Between all the exchange between some of our members, I lost sight of the ideal pump size strength for mixing a 45 gallon drum of home brew (filled to 30 gal) Right now I have a 1/3 horse 1 pump. I am about to connect to my reactor. Is this in-/overly/perfectly adequate? Pierre