Re: [Biofuel] GeoExchange, on the cheap - cap tubes

2006-08-08 Thread Kirk McLoren
. Big units have an oil separator but home units dont. If you were permanently modding the unit you would shorten the cap tube. I dont know how much.   KirkJoe Street <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Kirk;I'm not sure what you mean by the capillary tube reference.  You seem to know

Re: [Biofuel] assorbtion chiller tech..was...GeoExchange, on the cheap

2006-08-08 Thread Kirk McLoren
DOnt get bit by specsmanship with those units. The boiler temperature is the ammonia or bromide solution not the inlet temperature from the collectors. I know an architect that got bit that way. Needed a bit more and a bit more from the Tedlar glazed flat plates meant lots more collector than the o

Re: [Biofuel] Wolf attack near Grangeville

2006-08-08 Thread Kirk McLoren
The Canadians wet themselves laughing when we trapped wolves to take South. And a hearty thank you eh. If you want to understand what is coming here examine where we got the wolves. One fellow setting traps said he saw 1 deer print in 10 days. Thats all - the sum total. Everything. --If that is you

Re: [Biofuel] was..was... assorbtion chiller tech..was...GeoExchange, on the cheap

2006-08-08 Thread Kirk McLoren
ntributes green house gases and the added strain on an antiquatedgrid. If you can get the sun to handle most of the work more efficiently, great,- absolutely Kirkregardstallex> ---Original Message---> From: Kirk McLoren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> Subject: Re: [Bio

Re: [Biofuel] Wolf attack near Grangeville

2006-08-08 Thread Kirk McLoren
. But that is the reality. Fish and game publish statistics they pull out of . Their population counts are fiction. Seen it with my own eyes. Believe what you want. You will anyway.   Kirk http://digitalcommons.unl.edu/vpcone/6/ Up to 1949, the Fish and Game Branch employed personnel, some

Re: [Biofuel] Future car: What will you be driving?

2006-08-08 Thread Kirk McLoren
pv was a net energy sink.>  I am most assuredly not a Luddite.>  Technology is our only hope.>I googled the supercap company and it is gone. Really strange I think I posted the info on the electric boat yahoo >group about a year ago. I will see if I can find it.>   >  Kirk-Fo

[Biofuel] George Galloway _ Lebanon. View it while you can

2006-08-09 Thread Kirk McLoren
Check this interview out! I am amazed they let him speak. Kirk   http://news.sky.com/skynews/video/videoplayer/0,,31200-galloway_060806,00.html     Want to be your own boss? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. ___ Biofuel

Re: [Biofuel] George Galloway _ Lebanon. View it while you can

2006-08-09 Thread Kirk McLoren
lack thereof) between terrorists and "freedom fighters" are exactly the kinds of things that need to flow through EVERY media outlet.    Well done Mr. Galloway!!Kirk McLoren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Check this interview out! I am amazed they let him speak. Kirk   http://n

Re: [Biofuel] technology hot wires electric cars

2006-08-09 Thread Kirk McLoren
I think you really have to ask yourself what clever discovery these lads have that make their car 10 times as good as anyone elses. Or maybe they dont. I suspect they dont.   KirkZeke Yewdall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I doubt it.  The range is probably at 65 or 70mph.   I remember seeing the s

Re: [Biofuel] George Galloway _ Lebanon. View it while you can

2006-08-10 Thread Kirk McLoren
es if nothing else. Takes some sifting but the stories are often colorful. Most of the pillars of society are scoundrels and worse. History books  -- old history books to be more accurate - are interesting sources. Most modern ones are sanitized.   Kirk   PS Harriman is also in the Bush family

[Biofuel] Re article about deserters

2006-08-10 Thread Kirk McLoren
Was given this as the original story. STill would like to see the actual numbers though.   Kirk Oddly, the number has DROPPED since the Afghanistan War started. Here's the original story:July 05, 2006*Thousands of troops say they won’t fight**By Ana Radelat*/Gannett News Servic

Re: [Biofuel] test please

2006-08-10 Thread Kirk McLoren
I do too and I dont have an account with blogger. Its like our posts are being echoed to them Kirkroot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: please reply if this gets through, i changed email clients, and now ikeep getting rejected emails from [EMAIL PROTECTED]___

Re: [Biofuel] Stop the Abuse of Power

2006-08-10 Thread Kirk McLoren
It makes it plain to see the current administration has done more to destroy America than all the terrorists could ever hope to. It is a sad day in our history. Kirk"D. Mindock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Stop the Abuse of Power is a twelve-minute video that weave

Re: [Biofuel] Synfuel charade fizzles

2006-08-11 Thread Kirk McLoren
blow away in the night.   Kirk"D. Mindock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: http://www.wvgazette.com/section/Editorials/2006081010August 11, 2006SynfuelsCharade fizzles [but not before they made $billions]THE federal synfuels tax credit sounded like a good idea in 1980 - give breaks t

Re: [Biofuel] Bayer Sells AIDS-Infected Drug Banned in U.S. in Europe, Asia

2006-08-11 Thread Kirk McLoren
More psychopathic behaviour It is the norm not the exception. Without accountability they will not self regulate. The truth is not in them.   Kirk"D. Mindock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: http://www.mercola.com/2006/aug/5/bayer_sells_aids-infected_drug_banned_in_us_in_euro

Re: [Biofuel] What the bleep -was galloway

2006-08-11 Thread Kirk McLoren
-- Exercise caution when researching on the Internet as there is lots of misinformation but you can sometimes get leads from sites if nothing else. Takes some sifting but the stories are often colorful. Most of the pillars of society are scoundrels and worse. History books  -- old history

[Biofuel] Bush and Blair

2006-08-11 Thread Kirk McLoren
http://video.yahoo.com/video/play?vid=3873acd4c904f2b2d8e094d02e9a5f7e.607491 Open multiple messages at once with the all new Yahoo! Mail Beta. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_

Re: [Biofuel] Fuel Help

2006-08-11 Thread Kirk McLoren
I would expect any fuel that old to be half digested by bacteria. KirkZeke Yewdall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Are we so strapped for fuel that we have to siphon 20 year old stuff out of helicopters now???     I guess it does make more sense than throwing it away, so I'd go for it.  Since the main

Re: [Biofuel] What the bleep -was galloway

2006-08-11 Thread Kirk McLoren
rn world was invented.   - Redler (average person)    Kirk McLoren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:I am not a fan of that Ramtha person. She is quite egotistical. But I would not dismiss the whole film out of hand. Some interesting comments were made that are valid. Remember these

Re: [Biofuel] Fuel Help

2006-08-11 Thread Kirk McLoren
transportation. 10 cents a gallon is nice.   KirkPaul S Cantrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It looks and smells like absolutely brand new.  Apparently the additives in JP-8 include enough *-icide to keep it out.  Also it was sealed tightly with no air. On 8/11/06, Kirk McLoren <[EMAIL

[Biofuel] If only all Magic was this simple.....Lol

2006-08-12 Thread Kirk McLoren
.Bloody hell - but what happened to the little red tissues ?? - Excellent - Look nothing up the sleeves   Nothing up the ..OH YES there is.Lol   Excellenthttp://www.koreus.com/media/ursula-martinez-gala-juste-pour-rire.html Why keep checking for Mai

[Biofuel] Stranded gas development act

2006-08-12 Thread Kirk McLoren
http://www.marketwatch.com/News/Story/Story.aspx?dist=newsfinder&siteid=google&guid=%7B210597F7-3AA4-4C7A-A9E5-B231E5DB9A30%7D&keyword=  Alaska official says gas act won't meet August 23 deadline Last Update: 4:58 PM ET Aug 11, 2006  CALGARY (MarketWatch) -- Alaska will start a n

Re: [Biofuel] sunchokes, aka. jerusalem artichokes, etc

2006-08-12 Thread Kirk McLoren
Roots. They store as inulin.   KirkJason & Katie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: when referring to the harvest of jerusalem artichoke heads do you meanthe tuber roots or the flowers? because 1200 gallons an acre is prettydamn good by my book. an acre is the size of my parents front yard, andthey don

[Biofuel] If you rely on a keylock for security

2006-08-12 Thread Kirk McLoren
http://www.koreus.com/media/bump-keying.html   The world as we know it has changed. They opened these locks in seconds. Do you Yahoo!? Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta.___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.or

[Biofuel] pdf rey lock bumping

2006-08-12 Thread Kirk McLoren
.   Soo. Get a keyless lock   Kirk Open multiple messages at once with the all new Yahoo! Mail Beta. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at

Re: [Biofuel] Don't Become a Scientist!

2006-08-14 Thread Kirk McLoren
Nursing will be king as the baby boomers get infirm. Then tons of unemployment I suppose. Think of all the good deals on used cars though. ;) KirkMichael Redler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:O.K. so, we've covered scientist, doctor...I was laid off from my latest engineering job last year and s

[Biofuel] Mystery

2006-08-16 Thread Kirk McLoren
3 MEN GO INTO A MOTEL. THE MAN BEHIND THE DESK SAID THE ROOM IS $30, SO EACH MAN PAID $10 AND WENT TO THE ROOM. A WHILE LATER THE MAN BEHIND THE DESK REALIZED THE ROOM WAS ONLY $25, SO HE SENT THE BELLBOY TO THE 3 GUYS' ROOM WITH $5. ON THE WAY THE BELLBOY COULDN'T FIGURE OUT HOW TO SPLIT $5 EVENLY

Re: [Biofuel] Mystery

2006-08-16 Thread Kirk McLoren
uot;tip" you get $25. The $2 is subtracted not added. Peace, D. Mindock- Original Message - From: Kirk McLoren To: biofuel Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 3:44 AM Subject: [Biofuel] Mystery 3 MEN GO INTO A MOTEL. THE MAN BEHIND THE DESK SAID THE ROOM IS $30, SO EACH MA

Re: [Biofuel] Mystery

2006-08-16 Thread Kirk McLoren
Id rather owe it to you than cheat you out of it.Mike Weaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Whatever. Just send me my damned dollar, McLoren...Kirk McLoren wrote:> I have given this to a lot of people. The biofuels folk are atypical.> Ok guys give yourself a pat on the back.>> */&q

Re: [Biofuel] Uhex - was Good Samaritan

2006-08-17 Thread Kirk McLoren
Yes but the current owners are not neutral. Who do you think bankrolled Murdoch and why? Arabs need media -granted- but it will be difficult as the media already is owned as a propaganda mechanism it already is polarized. Its owners ARE IN THE BUSINESS of consensus forming. You are say they will s

[Biofuel] If you think keylocks are wide open

2006-08-17 Thread Kirk McLoren
 ++| Researcher Creates Handheld Hacking Tool   ||   from the how-many-till-the-it-guy-snaps dept.    ||   posted by ScuttleMonkey on Wednesday August 16, @17:02 (Security)||   http://it.slas

[Biofuel] Are there more nuclear reactors than we are told about?

2006-08-17 Thread Kirk McLoren
http://www.rene-r.com/essays/the-mystery-of-martins-creek.html    In one man's opinion, I think that the Martin's Creek plant may just be the tip of the ice berg. Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min.

[Biofuel] Fwd:FW: BUSH ADMINISTRATION ORDERED TO IMMEDIATELY STOP WARRANTLESS SURVEILLANCE PROGRAM

2006-08-17 Thread Kirk McLoren
WASHINGTON, DC - Aug. 8, 2006 (MASNET & NEWS SOURCES) Early Thursday, a U.S. District Court Judge for the Eastern District of Michigan delivered a second major set-back for the Bush Administration in its strategy for the "war against terror", ruling that its controversial eavesdropping program is

[Biofuel] An example of deception

2006-08-17 Thread Kirk McLoren
This article was written by a Mensa member who was critical of Star Wars. I think it illustrates things have been fubar for a long time.   STAR WARS The concept that by encircling the earth with some number of orbiting satellites we can detect, track and destroy incoming missiles with beam weapo

[Biofuel] NSA chief head of CIA

2006-08-18 Thread Kirk McLoren
.animated editorialhttp://www.newsday.com/news/opinion/ny-wh-nsawiretapping,0,1906650.flash Do you Yahoo!? Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta.___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.or

Re: [Biofuel] Are there more nuclear reactors than we are told about?

2006-08-18 Thread Kirk McLoren
bob allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Howdy Kirk, I scanned the first part of the article and to be honest found it lacking. The author either doesn't edit or hasn't a clue about power plant functioning, cooling requirements or capacity." These gigantic structures were

[Biofuel] Fake News Stories Probed

2006-08-18 Thread Kirk McLoren
And they used to poke fingers at Pravda. Kirk         | Fake News Stories Probed   ||   from the truthiness dept.    ||   posted by samzenpus on Wednesday August 16, @20:24 (The Media)   ||   http://slashdot.org

Re: [Biofuel] Are there more nuclear reactors than we are told about?

2006-08-18 Thread Kirk McLoren
king trailhead, make a right to head toward the parking lots. You may park in the stone lot to the right or in the main parking lot to the left and proceed to the guardhouse. Workshops are held in the second-floor conference room at the power plant."Kirk McLoren wrote:> > > */bob allen

Re: [Biofuel] Fake News Stories Probed

2006-08-19 Thread Kirk McLoren
in; when the government fears the governed, voting won't get you anywhere.Mike Weaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You made that up.Kirk McLoren wrote:> And they used to poke fingers at Pravda.> Kirk> > > > > | Fake News Stories Probed |> | from the truthines

[Biofuel] Fwd: Liquid Bombers Prove: They Hate Our Freedoms

2006-08-19 Thread Kirk McLoren
caveat - I wouldnt join his mailing list if you want to avoid getting on a government list. He is rather critical of the current regime.   Kirk    Subject: Liquid Bombers Prove: They Hate Our Freedoms www.ConspiracyPenPal.com  Nickel Ranttm: Liquid Bombers Prove:"They Hat

Re: [Biofuel] Are there more nuclear reactors than we are toldabout?

2006-08-19 Thread Kirk McLoren
road as day to day reality. Dispersed solutions are anti monopolistic and we are dominated by monopolies at the moment.   KirkSteve Barton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello   These smaller cooling towers you speak of Kirk are the type of cooling tower that has a fan or fans that ether

[Biofuel] sticker on diesel pumps.

2006-08-19 Thread Kirk McLoren
A friend phoned from Montana and said all the diesel pumps there have a sticker that the fuel in that pump is not to be used in 2007 diesel trucks. Has anyone seen these stickers in their state?   Kirk   Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out

Re: [Biofuel] {Disarmed} Fw: Rural Oregon town feels pinch of poverty

2006-08-20 Thread Kirk McLoren
You dont sound crazy at all. Do a business plan.   Kirkjason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: actually it isnt exactly a rural phenomenon. i am not sure what youconsider to be "rural" (population limit maybe?) but where i grew upthere were very nearly 75 people in the area in the mid 70's, andbef

Re: [Biofuel] What the bleep -was galloway

2006-08-21 Thread Kirk McLoren
ers only certain ones eh?  What's up with that? JoeMichael Redler wrote:"Tesla invented the modern world far more than Edison or Westinghouse or Marconi."   Damn! I didn't even know the modern world was invented.   - Redler (average person)    Kirk McLoren <[EMAIL PROTE

Re: [Biofuel] Blair feels let down by Bush [welcome to the club!]

2006-08-21 Thread Kirk McLoren
Damage control. Salvaging an untenable position. Twas ever thus.   Kirk"D. Mindock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:I think BlairCo itself isn't too bright. To recognize nowthat Bush is of low intellect is just a tad tardy, huh?Peace, D. Mindock===

Re: [Biofuel] sticker on diesel pumps

2006-08-21 Thread Kirk McLoren
I assume air injection is incorporated. In that case they finish oxidising.Zeke Yewdall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What does biodiesel do to the catalytic converters?   No sulfur, but how about all the polyaromatic hydrocarbons?Z On 8/21/06, Logan Vilas < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: All ne

[Biofuel] Republican platfrom

2006-08-22 Thread Kirk McLoren
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cntVcAI8FvA   I now am minus my a** as I laughed mine off. Talk about many a truth said in jest. Sure is their platform. Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min.__

[Biofuel] freezer or refrigerator.-12VDC_Power crosspost

2006-08-22 Thread Kirk McLoren
http://www.compactappliance.com/xq/JSP.detailmain/Engel_Compact_Portable_Freezer___Refrigerator__34_Qt_/itemID.774/itemType.Product/iProductID.774/qx/shopping/product/ENG35.htm?mtcpromotion=Kickers%3EPortable%20Coolers%3EEngel%2034%20Qt%20Portable%20Freezer%3E5this is an amazing cooler/freezer...

Re: [Biofuel] What the bleep -was galloway

2006-08-22 Thread Kirk McLoren
nucler materials. At least we are destroying our Sarin stockpile.   But we are silly creatures afraid of the dark and jealous of our brother. Not so grandiose as we would have believed.   Kirk   Martin Kemple <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Question:Why didn't most Native Americans,

Re: [Biofuel] U.S. Rice Supply Contaminated

2006-08-22 Thread Kirk McLoren
That unabomber guy we should put his picture on the 5 dollar bill.   KirkM&K DuPree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thanks for the heads up Keith...wonder if it's too late to get to the commodity broker and trade rice short I'm being half facetious/half curious...anyone on the list who understan

Re: [Biofuel] U.S. Rice Supply Contaminated

2006-08-22 Thread Kirk McLoren
You know WHO he was blowing up - right? Genetic engineers. Press didnt say much about it.M&K DuPree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Kirk...I'm a fathead.  Not sure what you're saying.  Mike- Original Message - From: Kirk McLoren To: biofuel@sustain

Re: [Biofuel] Doubting Official 9/11 Story Is 'Disloyal To The United States'

2006-08-23 Thread Kirk McLoren
I thought loyalty meant defending America from enemies without and WITHIN. Whatever shrub can screw you with I guess.   Kirk"D. Mindock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: - Original Message - From: D. MindockSent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 10:40 PMSubject: Doubting Offici

[Biofuel] crosspost from 12v power

2006-08-23 Thread Kirk McLoren
From rel444 Wed Aug 23 00:21:20 2006To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]From: "rel444" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 07:21:20 -Subject: [12VDC_Power] Re: 15w pannels at Northern Tool $66 + free shippingAmen Jim,Let's talk about AMERICAN 12 Volt or any other Volt Right Here & Now without Arab or

[Biofuel] moneyandmarkets.com

2006-08-23 Thread Kirk McLoren
Russia: The Big, Bad Bear Returns President Vladimir Putin seems determined to restore his country to the superpower status it held when he was a KGB officer. He hopes to accomplish this by turning Russia into an energy heavyweight, enriching the country's new elite in the process. Some of the mo

[Biofuel] Fast food ice dirtier than toilet water

2006-08-23 Thread Kirk McLoren
Fast Food Ice Dirtier Than Toilet Water!Out of the mouths of babes comes this news. Budding scientist, 12-year-old Jasmine Roberts from Benito Middle School in Tampa, Fla., has created a science fair project that has lots of grown-ups sitting up and taking notice. Her conclusion: Ice at fast food r

[Biofuel] Jesus died in Iraq

2006-08-23 Thread Kirk McLoren
http://www.archive.org/details.php?identifier=alt_focus_jesus_died_in_iraq&from=thisJustIn Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/

Re: [Biofuel] Fast food ice dirtier than toilet water

2006-08-24 Thread Kirk McLoren
I always thought since they only had electricity and water as inputs they would be ok but evidently not.   Kirk[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i repair ice machines, trust me they are one of the filthiest pieces of equipment in a restaurant ,yet the easiest to keep clean. your neighborhood bar

[Biofuel] crosspost 12vpower - Vietnam transportation. Amazing pictures - a must see

2006-08-24 Thread Kirk McLoren
The link below shows what transportation in Vietnam is like. Seems it hasn't changed any from when I was there 36 years ago. Just think of the fuel we could save!http://abcnews.go.com/International/popup?id=2342131Dexter<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/12VDC_P

[Biofuel] foreign car commercial

2006-08-24 Thread Kirk McLoren
http://www.mercola.com/2006/aug/24/the_best_car_commercial_you_ever_saw.htm   Turn the speakers up KirkThe Best Car Commercial You Ever Saw  This amazing commercial from Google Video about the Isuzu Gemini is more than 20 years old and will delight and surprise you. These cars

[Biofuel] If Drug companies made cars

2006-08-24 Thread Kirk McLoren
15 Ways the Auto Industry Would Change if it Operated Like Drug Companies   By Mike Adams, The Health Ranger What would happen if you had to buy your car from a company that operated in the same way as the pharmaceutical industries? Mike Adams, the Health Ranger, came up with 15 unse

[Biofuel] a nice find re Palestine history

2006-08-24 Thread Kirk McLoren
A well written history http://www.palestineremembered.com/Acre/Famous-Zionist-Quotes/Story638.html   Ben Gurion wrote twenty years after the 20th Zionists Congress, which rejected the Peel Commission partition plan in 1937, and contemplated how many Jews might have been saved, if the Peel Commis

Re: [Biofuel] a nice find re Palestine history

2006-08-24 Thread Kirk McLoren
be UN (neutral/historical) territory.there's an idea... make the holy lands into a UN state. totally neutraland ruled/ policed/ defended by the UN.On Thu, 2006-08-24 at 15:36 -0700, Kirk McLoren wrote:> A well written history> http://www.palestineremembered.com/Acre/Famous-Zionist-Quo

[Biofuel] Diebold flops in Alaska

2006-08-25 Thread Kirk McLoren
++| Diebold Flops in Alaska    ||   from the they-usually-work-so-well dept. ||   posted by samzenpus on Thursday August 24, @03:54 (Politics) ||   http://politics

Re: [Biofuel] ENZYMES

2006-08-25 Thread Kirk McLoren
Paul Stamets is the fungi guru in this part of the world http://www.fungi.com/front/stamets/   KirkJuan Boveda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hola Javier.Check with your local industrial washing operators of stone washed denim jeans.Many of them might use stones and celullase. They might tell you t

[Biofuel] MN devastated by tornado

2006-08-25 Thread Kirk McLoren
If you have friends in Minnesota . . .the Southern third of MN was devastated by tornadostormsThurs. eve. Aug. 24, 2006.Heavy rains, huge hail - ice pieces as big asgrapefruits, tornadic winds and tornadoes pounded The Southernthird of MN last night. Flooding is now complicating search and rescue

Re: [Biofuel] [hpwd] pedal air conditioner - quick and dirty penciling

2006-08-25 Thread Kirk McLoren
an existing cooler with superheat that you could avoid when making a small engine.   Pretty cool huh?   A nice bonus with this is you make distilled water as a byproduct.   Kirkhttp://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/cop-eer-d_409.html   The efficiency of chillers depends on the energy consumed

Re: [Biofuel] Bill Would Allow Hemp Farming in Calif.

2006-08-26 Thread Kirk McLoren
You will see the forces that really run this country put an icepick into the heart of this legislation. KirkKeith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory?id=2324524ABC News:August 25, 2006 | Local News and WeatherBill Would Allow Hemp Farming in Calif.Bill Appr

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2006-08-26 Thread Kirk McLoren
http://www.redding.com/redd/nw_local/article/0,2232,REDD_17533_4947248,00.html Electric bills give a shock PG&E hopes credit will ease surprise over July statements By Scott Mobley, Record SearchlightAugust 26, 2006 Kathy Heath's July utility bill was as much as a house payment. Pacific Ga

Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Australia's got it right

2006-08-26 Thread Kirk McLoren
h law.   http://watch.pair.com/law.html   Kirk"D. Mindock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:I think P.M. Howard is a fear monger. He sounds a lot like the pseudo-Christian we're stuck with in the WH. It is that confrontational take-no-prisoners reactionary fear-based attitude

Re: [Biofuel] hidden price gouging

2006-08-27 Thread Kirk McLoren
Thats why I fill in the early morning   KirkJason & Katie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: i actually bought a newspaper today, instead of reading the one in therestaurant over lunch. i did this because the front page article of thekansas city star is about hot gas. apparently the filling stations don

Re: [Biofuel] hidden price gouging

2006-08-28 Thread Kirk McLoren
pumps sitting in full sunlight are going to be the hottest.  The ones in the shade and used most often will be the coolest. Like Kirk says, fuel up in the morning for the most 'bang for the buck'  (sorry, but it had to be said)How much is the difference between 60*F gasoline and, say, 80*F g

[Biofuel] They're at it again, trying to conceal their crimes

2006-08-28 Thread Kirk McLoren
If they arent held accountable this will continue - as usual. Israel has a long history of this behavior.   Kirk CNNtoGOCNN PipelineWitnesses: 2 Israeli missiles hit Reuters carSaturday, August 26, 2006; Posted: 10:10 p.m. EDT (02:10 GMT) The Reuters armored car was hit by missiles early

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2006-08-28 Thread Kirk McLoren
uff which has  higher eventual cost, but no up front cost, then perhaps I'd have more sympathy, but to just whine that the utility is charging too much and playing the victim doesn't extract much sympathy from me. On 8/26/06, Kirk McLoren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: http:/

Re: [Biofuel] 34.6 cents per kilowatt hour. PG

2006-08-28 Thread Kirk McLoren
was), and that means that when you vote, either in elections, or in the economy, by making decisions on what will buy, you have to be somewhat educated on what you are voting for, or you'll end up getting screwed. Z On 8/28/06, Kirk McLoren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 106 kWhr a day.

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2006-08-28 Thread Kirk McLoren
d have more sympathy, but to just whine that the utility is charging too much and playing the victim doesn't extract much sympathy from me. On 8/26/06, Kirk McLoren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: http://www.redding.com/redd/nw_local/article/0,2232,REDD_17533_4947248,00.html Electr

Re: [Biofuel] 34.6 cents per kilowatt hour. PG

2006-08-29 Thread Kirk McLoren
Perhaps Michael achieved this insight in spite of going to school. I learned more on my own than in the school system.   Kirkrobert and benita rabello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Michael Redler wrote:"Many students, especially those who are poor, intuitively know what the schools do for them

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2006-08-29 Thread Kirk McLoren
olar (nothing on wind?). Oregon (or at least OTEC) has a $600 per 1kw/h generation capacity rebate but it isalso on solar only.JeromieKirk McLoren wrote:> Why on earth would you pay that much?> At 22 cents lots of ways are cheaper.> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Micro_Cogeneration/> K

Re: [Biofuel] 34.6 cents per kilowatt hour. PG

2006-08-29 Thread Kirk McLoren
stepdads sister who took me from failing fifth grade - they wanted me to repeat it- to wanting to skip me into high school from the 7th grade. So much for the system.   Kirkrobert and benita rabello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Kirk McLoren wrote:> Perhaps Michael achieved this insight in

Re: [Biofuel] 34.6 cents per kilowatt hour. PG

2006-08-29 Thread Kirk McLoren
ECTED]> wrote: Hey Guys, dont forget,school is to learn how to learn! Fritz- Original Message ----- From: Kirk McLoren To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 1:10 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] 34.6 cents per kilowatt hour. PGPerhaps Michael achieved this ins

Re: [Biofuel] 34.6 cents per kilowatt hour. PG

2006-08-29 Thread Kirk McLoren
D]> wrote: Kirk McLoren wrote:> You employed in the school system?No.> As I said I had to unlearn the social indoctrination I was fed in school> And the inaccurate history.> And I suffered through science classes where I knew more than the > instructor.> And - and -and -> Scho

Re: [Biofuel] 34.6 cents per kilowatt hour. PG

2006-08-29 Thread Kirk McLoren
DId you miss where I was failing?   Did you miss where my stepdads sister educated me?   Kirkrobert and benita rabello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Kirk McLoren wrote:> I blame the schools for turning out a generation that cant pour piss > out of a boot with the instructions written

Re: [Biofuel] 34.6 cents per kilowatt hour. PG

2006-08-29 Thread Kirk McLoren
distorted input into his world. Been there done that and hated it.   Kirkrobert and benita rabello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Kirk McLoren wrote:> DId you miss where I was failing?Were you illiterate at that time? Did you know NOTHING about letter / sound correspondance? Were you unable

Re: [Biofuel] 34.6 cents per kilowatt hour. PG

2006-08-29 Thread Kirk McLoren
Homeschoolers represent 20% of those being schooled last time I checked the statistics Homeschoolers represent 80% of the high achievers.   Doesnt speak well for your system. I think you are in denial. Our school system suks and you know it.  Kirk   robert and benita rabello <[EM

[Biofuel] Fwd: Vaccines: How deadly are they?

2006-08-29 Thread Kirk McLoren
http://www.proliberty.com/observer/20060801.htm>From the August 2006 Idaho Observer: Vaccines: How deadly are they? by Ingri CasselOver the past several months I have come across people who should know just how deadly

Re: [Biofuel] 34.6 cents per kilowatt hour. PG

2006-08-29 Thread Kirk McLoren
Bob if you get a chance give a look at "Home Schooling for Excellence" The authors are educators but chose to homeschool.   Kirkbob allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Howdy,Kirk McLoren wrote:> Homeschoolers represent 20% of those being schooled last time I checked > the

Re: [Biofuel] "healer" was34.6 cents per kilowatt hour. PG

2006-08-30 Thread Kirk McLoren
priestess prayed over her, and overnight, it was as strong as > the other hand again (I know because she helped me move ten 200 lb solar > thermal collectors when she came back). This is after a doctor here told > her she needed surgery to ever use that hand again. Even with my belief in >

Re: [Biofuel] 34.6 cents per kilowatt hour. PG

2006-08-30 Thread Kirk McLoren
cause she helped me move ten 200 lb solar > thermal collectors when she came back).  This is after a doctor here told > her she needed surgery to ever use that hand again.  Even with my belief in > both science, and the power of positive thinking in self healing, this is a > strange s

[Biofuel] Biowar for Dummies

2006-08-30 Thread Kirk McLoren
a single base pair of DNA runs about a buck to make.   Ok folks lets build that sunlight to oil converter.Kirkhttp://www.kurzweilai.net/articles/art0682.html?printable=1 All-new Yahoo! Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. __

Re: [Biofuel] homeschool was 34.6 cents per kilowatt hour. PG

2006-08-30 Thread Kirk McLoren
Ufda Upon rereading it is 20% of the privately schooled population. Thanks for catching that before I used it again.   Kirkbob allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I checked with a colleague in the school of education. In Arkansas where I bet we have a relatively high number of home schoolers for

Re: [Biofuel] see firsthand the extent of Google's filtering

2006-08-30 Thread Kirk McLoren
I tried Palestine war as my 2 search words I got http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/index.php?menuID=1&subID=682   on the Chinese one and not on ours.   Weird. Almost like filtering in both directions.   Kirk "D. Mindock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: China has earned the

Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: Vaccines: How deadly are they?

2006-08-30 Thread Kirk McLoren
d at the side".I do not like what I am looking at.Mary LynnRev. Mary Lynn Schmidt, Ordained MinisterONE SPIRIT ONE HEARTTTouch . Reiki . Pet Loss Grief Counseling . Animal Behavior Modification . Shamanic Spiritual Travel . Behavior Problems . Psionic Energy Practitioner . Radioni

[Biofuel] Fwd: [12VDC_Power] CFL article

2006-08-30 Thread Kirk McLoren
 CFL articlehttp://www.realtechnews.com/posts/3433 Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min.___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/b

Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: Vaccines: How deadly are they?

2006-08-30 Thread Kirk McLoren
the rise? Lots of Prednisone sold these days.   But the AMA and their bedmates the pharma corporations will sing their song of vaccination and make billions. The emperor has no clothes. It is mostly fraud and what we SHOULD be doing goes begging. bob allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: no f

[Biofuel] Reinventing Medicine -- book

2006-08-31 Thread Kirk McLoren
  Reinventing Medicine by Larry Dossey Cue the theme song to the Twilight Zone: Research shows your plants won't grow as well when you're depressed as when you're happy. Praying for someone else will improve your own health, too. The growth of E. coli bacteria is inhibited when a group of people

Re: [Biofuel] Robert Newman History of oil

2006-08-31 Thread Kirk McLoren
Brilliant! A must see.   Kirk http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7374585792978336967Funny through the tearsHas some interesting factoids, like:the total carbon emisions for the full cycle of the nuclear energy plants(from fuel mining, refinement etc to decomissioning)is 75% of the

Re: [Biofuel] Reinventing Medicine -- book

2006-08-31 Thread Kirk McLoren
about it.Ask him.bob allen wrote:>Study of Heart Patients Sees No Power in Prayer>>http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5315333>>>>>Kirk McLoren wrote:> >>> >>*Reinventing Medicine by *Larry Dossey >> >>>>Cue the theme song

Re: [Biofuel] 34.6 cents per kilowatt hour. PG

2006-09-01 Thread Kirk McLoren
special environment best avoided.   Kirk     Joe Street <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: To(o) funny!!j:)Mike Weaver wrote: Homeschoolers represent 20% of those being schooled (the) last time I checked the statistics(.) Homeschoolers represent 80% of the high achievers. Doesnt (doesn&#x

Re: [Biofuel] Copper and Polymerization?

2006-09-03 Thread Kirk McLoren
I am more inclined to think bacteria. I dont think polymerization proceeds very quickly at room temperature. Since the tank was full and basically sealed the water is probably a metabolic product of some bacteria and not condensation.   My 2 cents   KirkThomas Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

[Biofuel] From California to Oshkosh

2006-09-03 Thread Kirk McLoren
 The USA by air Here is one mans journey from California to Oshkosh Wisconsin and back...  A nice trip.   Go to:   http://silvairehair2.home.comcast.net/072806/   Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min.__

[Biofuel] Nova Scotia rate hearing

2006-09-05 Thread Kirk McLoren
Nova Scotia town's fate hangs on Stora electricity rate hearingCBC News - Canada HALIFAX (CP) - As complex hearings begin Tuesday into electricity rate formulas for two Nova Scotia pulp mills, the residents of a Cape Breton mill town will be watching - and worrying. Finnish papermake

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