The Canadians wet themselves laughing when we trapped wolves to take South. And a hearty thank you eh. If you want to understand what is coming here examine where we got the wolves. One fellow setting traps said he saw 1 deer print in 10 days. Thats all - the sum total. Everything. --If that is your idea of ecology have at it.
 
When Lewis and Clark walked these hills there were no fences and no agriculture. The elk are shy and also arent real fond of fences. They tend to congregate away from people.
Wolves were introduced back there and now no elk calves. Pretty soon no adult elk. Then, rather than starve, and becoming used to people wolves move closer and closer till the stories of yore are the stories of today. All the denial in the world wont change this. Then when it is irrefutable that they arent teddy bears and fuzzywuzzy toddlers toys we will do a control program - until the next generation of city folk think they understand nature.
In the meantime they expect the flow of lamb and hamburger to continue without hindrance.
The press is guilty too. (the news is objective and reliable ;)  ) I know personally of griz attacks and people hospitalized or killed and the news never leaves the county. Except for the relatives of the dead guy.
Oh well. Everyone has their warm and fuzzy. To hell with reality. But reality has a nasty habit of not remaining ignored. I am becoming of the opinion most people have to learn the hard way. Their bias and projections rule their minds and not observable facts. It doesnt seem reasonable let alone obvious the problem will return as it once was.
 
Kirk

Michael Redler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
DHAJOGLO wrote: "I, for one, blame the Canadians and feel we should build a large wolf fence between us and Canada.  I call it, 'The Maple Curtain!'"
 
LOL!
 
"From the Yukon on the Pacific to Labrador in the Atlantic a maple curtain has descended across the Continent. Behind that line lie all the capitals of the civilized states of the Western hemisphere. Vancouver, Windsor, Toronto, Halifax, Quebec (yes, Quebec too!); all these famous cities and the populations around them lie in what I must call the Beaver sphere...".


Joe Street <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Naaaaah Canadian wolves are too proud to enter the U.S.

DHAJOGLO wrote:
On Monday,   August 07, 2006  6:57 PM, JJJN wrote:    
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2006 16:57:27 -0700  From: JJJN  To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org  Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Wolf attack near Grangeville        
...Don't get me wrong I like to see wolves but I struggle with     
how they fit into the agricultural areas of Eastern Montana.       
  I think you are struggling with the wrong question: how do we fit into the wolves habitat after having turned it into an agricultural area?  I, for one, blame the Canadians and feel we should build a large wolf fence between us and Canada.  I call it, "The Maple Curtain!"  
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