How silly, I would hazard a guess the majority of fatal and serious injury
auto accidents don't involve the types of vehicles that the proposal bans.
Remember the muscle car era? The insurance industry does keep tabs on the
numbers and the cost of insuring some vehicles considered a risk raises
s
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 15:58:48 -0800
From: "Mark E. Wishart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Thinking about buying a car?
Okay what are your suggestions?
Well show me a car that I can use to do farming tasks to provide food so you
can eat.
**
That implies you have or expect to
Didn't the Oldsmobile 350 based diesel make into some of the GM and Chevy
pickups?
Doug
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Subject: Re: [biofuel] 85 suburban
>stay away from early 70-80's gm diesel. basically a gas engine beefed up.
>junk.
>Steve Spence
S
Utilcorp who is the one I pay for electric power. This time I'll pay more
attention when they start offering the green power. Last offer was first
come first served and was too late to get the less expressive rate of the
green power. I would like to drive down to Montezuma and watch the
constr
.. related to the revolt campaign letter posted previously, visit,
http://wire.dailynews.net/hays/HDnews/news/gasprices062501.html
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Hello,
The biggest flaw in the revolt in the past was fuel (gasoline) has to be
bought SOMETIME if not topping the tank off before the appointed day or the
day after. The flaw in this new plan is fuel has to be bought SOMEWHERE. I
wouldn't bank on the other outlets on lowering their prices.
This brings to mind a past discussion on the IC engine-electrical generator-
electric motor propulsion of RR locomotives. I do believe the mechanical to
electrical back to mechanical is inherently inefficient, as proposed here in
the current discussion. The use of electrical cooling fans in auto
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biodiesel to produce steam for drive power, maybe a turbine for electric
hybrid
cars?
Skarr; admiting I know little about steam and how much energy is available
from a gallon of water. The first things that come to mind are, water is
he
Hello Adian,
Youth is relative, I sure we both are young to somebody and old to
others. The 2 stroke diesel engine has existed for years now in heavy
trucks and farm tractors but, I don't know of any passenger and light trucks
using them, other than the occasional Detroit 4-71 [I may have th
Someone wrote;
>It's been difficult finding ANY chemical supplier that will even
consider
>selling a quantity of acid to an individual. My inquiries have been met
with
>great suspicion, especially when I tell them what I'm planning to do with
the
>acid! There are two additional approaches I
Jerry,
Does anyone maintain an up to date FAQ concerning what EVs can or can
not do? As in many things there is no one size fits all solution, EVs can
only be one part of the "transportation equation", ICE or hybrids will be
the best for many. At first glance the 250 mile range looks good b
>>The 25-million gallon plant in Russell will be the second largest of the
five ethanol plants in the state, second only to a 1.4-million gallon plant
in Leoti in southwest Kansas. Garden City, Atchison and Colwich also have
ethanol production businesses.<<
http://wire.dailynews.net/hays/HDnews/ne
Hello,
Some time back I relate how some oil patch families heated their home
during the Depression in a similar manner using "drip gas" in a similar
manner as how I have been told, I'm not old enough to have personally
experienced that era. I'm told that an overflow pan was placed under the
s
Hi,
From listening from old timers, I believe one factor that determine the
compression ratio of the engine was it's destination. Tractors originally
delivered to the lower plains lack power if the tractor ever made out to
Colorado, whenever the reverse occurred the tractor became picky abou
Hello,
To me it's apparent that both liquids and gases naturally move from a
point of higher pressure to a point of lower pressure, with this in mind,
saying air is pushed into the engine by atmospheric pressure isn't, totally
inaccurate, I'm not saying the process Stephen outlined is inaccur
I seen the same report on TV a call to your local blood bank or the Red
Cross should yield you the most accurate details. In regards to the high
dollar bulls not being used for consumption there always will be a time the
most expensive bull or cow would be sold for ground beef purposes, whenever
t
Well; Not that it really matters you have me beat by one year. Lidsay books
www.lindsybks.com carries a series of books authored by David Gingery. The
first is about making aluminum castings using a home foundry. Second,
building a metal lathe using the forge to make the needed castings.
follo
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Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2001 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: Hydrogen Booster
: If I had a machine shop I would think I was in heaven.(G).
Me? I'd be craping in tall cotton if I had a vehicle as new as a 1997
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Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: Rat City
: maybe they could sell them at a slight loss to a warehouser that would
: do the skinning, like for 40c.
To continue off topic, why bother to skin at all? Un
Stephan,
I'm a bit curious at what depths where finding fresh water with the
fracturing operations?
Thanks-Doug
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: Compressed air is like hydrogen in some regards. It's an energy
: carrier, that requires a greater amount of energy to fill
: the "bucket" then you ge
Hi,
To hazard guesses, there may be several. Could be than the bean is the
better all around crop when oil production is excluded, I'm don't farm and I
don't know. Is more land better suited to growing the bean as compared to
rapeseed, again I don't know. From what I have observed in my p
Hi,
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Skaar, is worth making the effort when egroups will insert it or a differant
one anyway?
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visit, I can post entire article-Doug
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Hello,
From the posts that I have read I'm given the impression that sugar cane
is no longer a major crop in Florida, is this so? I had some relatives who
worked for US Sugar in the past, one a foreman in the research plots, so I'm
sure they knew how to grow the crop, in Florida anyway. Than
David- are they similar to the "hit and miss" antique engine seen at,
antique engine and farm machine shows or to the more modern one lung engines
still in service in the oilfield? For example the Climax/ Continentals,
Ajax 2 cycle engines, Fair Morse Or the Wittes'. There is the "C" Witte
that
Add five if the times are EST to get UTC. Be advised the date UTC * may*
change also.
Doug
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To:
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2000 6:17 AM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Fw: Agricultural Transportation Challenges of the
21st Century Webc
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From: "stephen lakios"
I would like those of you who continue to ask me how to repair thier autos
and trucks, to go to your library or buy a manual for your particular
vehical. My time is limited, we have five kids and I have to do all the
errands,shopping,driving,ec
Hi,
Robert; When comparing cost's in regard to remote locations are you
figuring in the cost of line construction? I have also read that the
utilities purchase the green power from one at a rate that is less than what
they charge you for power, in other words it's not a 1 to 1 ratio, is this
Hello,
I don't know much about the "capped" wells in the Middle East and
elsewhere but, I wanted to comment on "Right now there are tens of thousands
of capped wells in the U.S. alone." The word "capped" is misleading, it's
not a simple matter to start such well producing again by "uncapping"
Hello,
Differant but how practical? What runs the heater and defroster when
it's cold and snowing and the AC when the temp, approaches 120F? How about
electrical power for lights, windshield wipers, etc.? Calling it zero
emission is not entirely correct. Fun and interesting to read about a
Luigi,
I certainly agree with yours and Keith's comment's on education and you
had a key phrase " I was eager to learn". I may be overly pessimistic but,
I don't see that eagerness to learn in regards biofuel and related topics,
in the persons I know young or old. Whenever I try to bring it
Yep but, it has the distinct disadvantage of eating away at ones internet
connect time for those who buy service by the hour. Those in some countries
pay for BOTH their internet service and local phone calls by the minute, for
them that is an expensive option also
Doug, N0LKK
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Hi,
Glad to see that fuel for the future is used in the plural sense,
because that's the attitude that will work. INMO if the movement gets into
the rut there is ONE solution it's doomed.
Doug
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From: "Keith Addison
But you can get that gunk off without burning it.
:
: Best wishes
:
: Keith Addison
One way or the other the residue is going end up in the environment, if not
on the air by burning, either. the landfill of waste waster if cleaned
with a deterg
Hi,
I don't know where Luigi hails from but I'm also an Amatuer Radio operator
and am a member of the American Radio Relay League, the national society in
the United States. Given the analogy given by Luigi, the leagues histories
differ. The ARRL was created pre W.W.I, I believe, at that time ra
MY my; You are free to choose to do or ignore what I say just like, I still
can choose to be a thief or not. Some how one is better than the other? I
think I need to review the archives and webpages because, I don't recall a
lot of discussion about how environment friendly, the fuels used to heat
Alex,
I imagine for a good portion of us there is no local chemicals and lab
equipment
supplier or local is spelled 5 hour drive and if there is chances are any,
they likely would be wholesale only. That leaves us with the net, could you
suggest manufacturers to lead off a search with? Tha
The thermopile or thermocouple is readily found in hardware stores. I have
never measure the output but, I suspect it can be used to control a
transistor. They do fail and get corroded by the flame, given the 24/7
nature of use failures aren't what, I'd call common.
Doug
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Hello,
Bryan although I have seen and used older gas appliances that didn't
have this safety feature, I have to imagine it has been standard for some
years now. The water heater I bought two years ago has this kind of safety
with the pilot, however it's integrated with the main gas and thermo
Here is central Kansas. I would think similar situations would
exist in the oil producing sections of any state that has that industry.
Doug
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From: "Bryan Fullerton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 6:47 AM
Subject: Re: [biofuel]
Anybody? I don't have a clue. Will the resin burn, can you fire the drum
to burn out residue where you live?
Doug
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To:
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 6:10 PM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Drums
: around here this type of drum is available beca
I imagine it's about location. Here due to fact that oilfield chemicals
come in 55 Gal. drums, they are plentiful and for free, because there is no
return on them. Where their considered one use only, they are of lighter
construction than the motor oil drums, which you DON'T get for free. The
sm
Bryan,
Sorry about misspelling your name earlier, when the junction of
dissimilar metals is heated, a current is generated across that junction. A
thermopile is a stack [pile] of such junctions, in an enclosure, with means
of connecting it into an electrical circuit. The most common use is
Hello,
Did Brian mention he liked dangerous? I have never witnessed this
operation personally but, I have no reason to doubt the validity of the
account. Try this on for size Brian I was told during the depression local
oil field workers heated their homes using "drip gas" a liquid condensed
Hello,
Interesting. I always understood the role of a turbocharger or any other
supercharger, was one of filling the engines cylinders, more efficiently as
compared to, normally aspirated engines. Is the role of the exhaust heat
about more spinning the turbocharger and not vaporizing? Partic
Hi,
If an electric car is charged on grid power, it moves beyond the realm
of homegrown fuel, perhaps the states forgo road tax in the name of
promoting alternate fuels, I don't know. All I really want to get across is
don't assume there is no road tax, you could be for a rude awakening 5- 1
John,
The heaters you speak of are available now in propane fueled, that I
personally know of and I think there also diesel fueled models, they plumb
in at the cab heater lines. It becomes a scale of economics, rigging to
use the pickups to warm the engine, the very few days it gets that it
Hi,
I would have to assume if you use your own production to fuel your own
vehicles, the State may expect you to pay a tax based on estimated miles
driven per year. This is what those who drive propane powered vehicles are
required to do in the state of Kansas. I know biofuel can be use cover
Hi,
Apparently I haven't following this thread close enough. On the topic
of ethanol, I have seen much said on the list about the mechanical spark
advance. In comparing the optimal ignition advance curves, for gasoline and
ethanol, are they parallel enough so, only the change in the static
For the life of me I don't know where I got the name Otto but, anyway you
confirm the meat of the article I read.
Doug
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From: "Keith Addison:
: Rudolf Diesel invented the diesel engine 108 years ago for reasons
: that would now be called appropriate technology: he conc
Hello,
Although petroleum production has been the root of my sustenance all my
life, I'm of the belief that concentrating on domestic petroleum production
to provide energy needs in the U. S., is wasting valuable time. Local
independent producers in RO-EL-RS and surrounding counties in Kans
Hi,
I can recall seeing a report in the mainstream news about this but, not
much. I first read about in TME magazine. I recall reading in the magazine
Otto Diesel had vegetable oil use in mind when he created his engine.
Doug
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To:
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 8:00 AM
Subject: [biofuel] Re: Injectorless diesels?
: >I will remove myself from this list.
: >
: > WerkSpace Inc.
:
: Pl
First; thank you for posting more information.
Second I didn't ask the question, as a put down like the other party used it
as, vehicle for however I have one more questions. Thinking I was missing
a definition of vaporize, I went to the dictionary to confirm I wasn't.
Carburetors and injectors
I understand we are talking about biofuel not alcohol for consumption but, I
was under the impression that using brewers yeast was about the flavor of
the product not the alcohol content. Does the type of yeast make a
difference in fuel production?
Doug
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Forgive my curiosity. If the ideas have been "tested and proven", why ask
the questions?
Doug
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Sent: Monday, September 25, 2000 9:19 PM
Subject: [biofuel] Re: Injectorless diesels?
:
: ---
Shiner,
I agree for a technical minded list it's unusual to not to be able to
upload files, a public file area a good way to avoid attachments. I'm not
complaining or criticizing the list owner, just a general statement.
Doug
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Well,
I guess experiences can vary, I have seen a runaway diesels stopped by
shutting off the fuel. I need to really to look into the runaway diesel
situation, I have to believe there is more to it than worn cylinders and
associated parts. All I know if the situation presents choke off the a
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