Re: [Biofuel] Alabama Town's Failed Pension is a Warning (NYT-article)

on the idea of this or that being true. Regards -Dawie Coetzee From: Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Sat, 1 January, 2011 6:30:18 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Alabama Town's Failed Pension is a Warning (NYT-article) http://www.alternet.org/story

Re: [Biofuel] Alabama Town's Failed Pension is a Warning (NYT-article)

http://www.alternet.org/story/149369/8_smears_and_misconceptions_about_wikileaks_spread_by_the_media?page=entire AlterNet / By Julianne Escobedo Shepherd and Tana Ganeva 8 Smears and Misconceptions About WikiLeaks Spread By the Media Shredding the corporate media's malicious attacks on WikiLeaks

Re: [Biofuel] Alabama Town's Failed Pension is a Warning (NYT-article)

ocialism, for Régie GM is still the same animal, only >potentially moreso. I >suggest that the operative distinction in the current context is, rather, >personal/community/local v corporate/government/transnational. > >Regards > >Dawie Coetzee > > > > > >

Re: [Biofuel] Alabama Town's Failed Pension is a Warning(NYT-article)

dy, penalizes everybody, > and only gratifies the shriveled hearts of right-wing authoritarians. > > > -Original Message- >>From: Dan Beukelman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Sent: Dec 30, 2010 12:26 PM >>To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org >>S

Re: [Biofuel] Alabama Town's Failed Pension is a Warning (NYT-article)

Noam Scheiber describes something resembling a lateral rather than hierarchical organization although he still assumes some overarching control frame it seems which is a departure from pure lateral networking. That is more the way nature organizes things and hopefully if Schieber is right this r

Re: [Biofuel] Alabama Town's Failed Pension is a Warning (NYT-article)

; > -Original Message- >>From: Zeke Yewdall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Sent: Dec 28, 2010 6:41 PM >>To: "sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org" >> >>Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Alabama Town's Failed Pension is a Warning       >>(NYT-article) >> >>

Re: [Biofuel] Alabama Town's Failed Pension is a Warning (NYT-article)

: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tyler Arnold Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2010 5:02 PM To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Alabama Town's Failed Pension is a Warning (NYT-article) Dan, I'm very sorry to say that I'm paranoi

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thousands, which I am sure this guy couldn’t have paid. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tyler Arnold Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2010 3:17 PM To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Alabama Town's Failed Pension is a Warning(NYT-ar

Re: [Biofuel] Alabama Town's Failed Pension is a Warning (NYT-article)

-Original Message- >From: Dan Beukelman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Dec 30, 2010 12:47 PM >To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org >Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Alabama Town's Failed Pension isa Warning >(NYT-article) > >What insurance compa

Re: [Biofuel] Alabama Town's Failed Pension is a Warning(NYT-article)

f >Doug >Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 4:17 AM >To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org >Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Alabama Town's Failed Pension is a >Warning(NYT-article) > > > >Luckily , in Australia, virtually all the Rural Fire services are staffed by

Re: [Biofuel] Alabama Town's Failed Pension is a Warning (NYT-article)

t;From: Zeke Yewdall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Dec 28, 2010 6:41 PM >To: "sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org" > >Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Alabama Town's Failed Pension is a Warning >(NYT-article) > >Same here. That's quite common in r

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government provided fire service. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doug Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 4:17 AM To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Alabama Town's Failed Pension is a Warning(NYT-article) Luckily , in Aust

Re: [Biofuel] Alabama Town's Failed Pension is a Warning (NYT-article)

ED]> >Sent: Dec 28, 2010 6:41 PM >To: "sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org" > >Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Alabama Town's Failed Pension is a Warning >(NYT-article) > >Same here. That's quite common in rural areas here. Often property >taxes via special lev

Re: [Biofuel] Alabama Town's Failed Pension is a Warning (NYT-article)

Hello Peter Yes, I saw that piece by Josh Ogden. There've been quite a few such conspiracist pieces about WikiLeaks of course, some of them rather obviously orchestrated, if rather ineptly. I think Young Master Ogden should perhaps try reading what he's written in the mirror (and the forthcomi

Re: [Biofuel] Alabama Town's Failed Pension is a Warning (NYT-article)

Hi All ; > Nice, Dawie. Yes, very succinct and insightful. > This piece be might be pertinent: > > Game Changer > Why Wikileaks will be the death of big business and big government. Keith, let me say that nothing would make me h

Re: [Biofuel] Alabama Town's Failed Pension is a Warning (NYT-article)

me is by and large, > foolish. > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org >> Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2010 21:16:45 +1100 >> Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Alabama Town's Failed Pension is a >> Warning(NYT-article) >> >&

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is by and large, foolish. > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org > Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2010 21:16:45 +1100 > Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Alabama Town's Failed Pension is a Warning(NYT-article) > > Luckily , in Australia, virtually all the Rural

Re: [Biofuel] Alabama Town's Failed Pension is a Warning (NYT-article)

Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Alabama Town's Failed Pension is a Warning (NYT-article) <http://www.alternet.org/story/149324/america_in_decline%3A_why_germans_think_we%27re_insane?page=entire> America in Decline: Why Germans Think We're Insane A look at our empire in decline through

Re: [Biofuel] Alabama Town's Failed Pension is a Warning(NYT-article)

Luckily , in Australia, virtually all the Rural Fire services are staffed by volunteers (although there are some paid positions in support areas, Govt funded). I live on rural acreage, & some fdunds go to the RFS as donations, but there is no compulsion. I was really surprised with the claim ab

Re: [Biofuel] Alabama Town's Failed Pension is a Warning (NYT-article)

porations to operate in the first place? > >The old private-v-public distinction no longer applies as it did before. The >corporations are as much part of the State as the government. There >is no relief >in socialism, for Régie GM is still the same animal, only >potentially moreso. I >suggest tha

Re: [Biofuel] Alabama Town's Failed Pension is a Warning (NYT-article)

America in Decline: Why Germans Think We're Insane A look at our empire in decline through the eyes of the European media. December 26, 2010 By Democrats Ramshield As an American expat livi

Re: [Biofuel] Alabama Town's Failed Pension is a Warning (NYT-article)

> A Grim Record: One In Seven Americans Is On Food Stamps >> December 8, 2010 >> <http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2010/12/08/131905683/a-grim-record-one-in-s >> even-americans-is-on-food-stamps> >> >> No prizes for guessing what kind of "food" they eat. &g

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s on what I contribute. >>> >>> How many deserving people would that exclude? How many Americans have >>> died (been killed?) so far because they were effectively denied >>> healthcare? >>> >>> A Grim Record: One In Seven Americans Is On Food

Re: [Biofuel] Alabama Town's Failed Pension is a Warning (NYT-article)

I think the belief persists in the face of facts and reality because reality is something deliberately kept far away from the mind of the believer for one thing, the examination of the truth of that belief system, or facts, is something the average believer is strongly steered away from (and of

Re: [Biofuel] Alabama Town's Failed Pension is a Warning (NYT-article)

gt; December 8, 2010 >> <http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2010/12/08/131905683/a-grim-record-one-in-s >> even-americans-is-on-food-stamps> >> >> No prizes for guessing what kind of "food" they eat. >> >> Best wishes >> >> Keith >> >>

Re: [Biofuel] Alabama Town's Failed Pension is a Warning(NYT-article)

On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 6:32 AM, Ivan Menchero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > > Ivan > PS: I am surprise the have not privatize the fire department in the USA! so > you pay a monthly "insurance' and if you do not pay and there is a fire in > your house you are out of luck! > > Unfortunately there

Re: [Biofuel] Alabama Town's Failed Pension is a Warning(NYT-article)

2010 9:56 PM To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Alabama Town's Failed Pension is a Warning(NYT-article) I just do not understand the US system. I am an Australian, & we have a mandated Pension system that inputs from memory 9% of a workers wages into a Supe

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a "ME" society, not a "WE" society. - Original Message - From: "Doug" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2010 8:56 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Alabama Town's Failed Pension is a Warning(NYT-article) >I just do not understand the

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8, 2010 > <http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2010/12/08/131905683/a-grim-record-one-in-s > even-americans-is-on-food-stamps> > > No prizes for guessing what kind of "food" they eat. > > Best wishes > > Keith > > >Dan > > > >From: [EMAIL

Re: [Biofuel] Alabama Town's Failed Pension is a Warning (NYT-article)

en-americans-is-on-food-stamps> No prizes for guessing what kind of "food" they eat. Best wishes Keith >Dan > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of >Michele Stephenson >Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2010 11:36 AM >Subject: [Biofuel] A

Re: [Biofuel] Alabama Town's Failed Pension is a Warning (NYT-article)

now that what I get depends on what I contribute. Dan From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michele Stephenson Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2010 11:36 AM Subject: [Biofuel] Alabama Town's Failed Pension is a Warning (NYT-article) For those of you w

[Biofuel] Alabama Town's Failed Pension is a Warning (NYT-article)

For those of you who live in the US an article of interest... For those who live outside looking in, it's no big surprise Private Company and Industry pensions plans have all but gone away. The substitute is the 401K that no one is really responsible for except the investor to make the bes