Re: [Biofuel] WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT 11

2006-09-25 Thread Doug Foskey
omeopathy . Polarity . > The Animal Connection Healing Modalities > http://members.tripod.com/~MLSchmidt/ > http://allcreatureconnections.org > > >From: "Terry Dyck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org > >To: biofuel@sustainablel

Re: [Biofuel] WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT 11

2006-09-23 Thread Marylynn Schmidt
Dyck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org >To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org >Subject: Re: [Biofuel] WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT 11 >Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 17:53:27 + > >Building 7 is the key investigation to look at. The FBI reports could be >the reas

Re: [Biofuel] WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT 11

2006-09-23 Thread Terry Dyck
g business companies of USA rich. Terry Dyck >From: "D. Mindock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org >To: >Subject: Re: [Biofuel] WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT 11 >Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 07:38:16 -0500 > >Bldg 7 fell in the same controlled

Re: [Biofuel] WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT 11

2006-09-22 Thread Paul S Cantrell
Jason,Have you ever been to the Pentagon?  You just don't get the magnitude and scale of that structure until you are there.Please explain Picture 13: http://www.geoffmetcalf.com/pentagon/pentagon_20020316.htmlCruise missiles do NOT make fireballs like this one, it was the fuel:http://www.whatreall

Re: [Biofuel] WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT 11

2006-09-22 Thread Jeromie Reeves
st not on such a frightening scale) >Jason >ICQ#: 154998177 >MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >- Original Message - >From: "robert and benita rabello" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: >Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 9:38 AM >Subject: Re: [Biofuel] WHAT

Re: [Biofuel] WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT 11

2006-09-22 Thread Jason& Katie
PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Tom Irwin To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 4:15 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT 11 Hi Joe and All,   I really don´t want to believe this. That´s part of the problem

Re: [Biofuel] WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT 11

2006-09-22 Thread Jason& Katie
benita rabello To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 3:34 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT 11 Kirk McLoren wrote:   Unfortunately since you arent qualified to judge what you read you accept information

Re: [Biofuel] WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT 11

2006-09-22 Thread Jason& Katie
#: 154998177 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "robert and benita rabello" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 9:38 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT 11 > D. Mindock wrote: > >>Robert, >> The to

Re: [Biofuel] WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT 11

2006-09-21 Thread Michael Friebel
pened without goverment > complicity. > Peace, D. Mindock > > - Original Message - > From: "robert and benita rabello" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 9:38 AM > Subject: Re: [Biofuel] WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT &

Re: [Biofuel] WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT 11

2006-09-21 Thread dwoodard
Well maybe, but I don't think that the stupidity lies where you seem to imply. We know that years before the event PNAC wrote longingly of "a new Pearl Harbor." We know that for a long time Al Quaeda wanted to destroy the World Trade Centre as the ultimate symbolic blow to its own Evil Empire.

Re: [Biofuel] WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT 11

2006-09-21 Thread Joe Street
Very good explanation and it makes good logical sense.  Thank you! Joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Joe Street <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: That's a very good point Kirk. I wonder how do the civil engineers deal with that bit? Impact happened, jet fuel went everywhe

Re: [Biofuel] WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT 11

2006-09-21 Thread robert and benita rabello
D. Mindock wrote: >Bldg 7 fell in the same controlled fashion even though of different >construction method. > > You're going to believe what you wish to believe, despite the physical evidence. >It was hit by debris but not an airliner. Bldg 7 was not mentioned in the >9/11 commission >

Re: [Biofuel] WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT 11

2006-09-21 Thread D. Mindock
- From: "robert and benita rabello" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 9:38 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT 11 > D. Mindock wrote: > >>Robert, >> The towers and bldg 7 are just part of a larger puzzle. You w

Re: [Biofuel] WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT 11

2006-09-21 Thread Logan vilas
: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 1:08 PM To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT 11 Hi Logan, What about the building that was not hit by a jet, the building that housed all of the investigative people who were close to exposing a stock market cover up

Re: [Biofuel] WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT 11

2006-09-21 Thread Logan vilas
:06 PM To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT 11 Quoting Logan vilas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > It's amazing that the Weight of the airplane alone was enough to not cause > the building to collapse in my opinion. Without going into

Re: [Biofuel] WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT 11

2006-09-21 Thread Andrew Lowe
Tom Irwin wrote: > Hi Joe and All, > > I really don´t want to believe this. That´s part of the problem. But > the buildings fell unusually fast, from film and stopwatch just about > at freefall speeds. I would have thought if most of the structural > steel was okay, except for the areas where the

Re: [Biofuel] WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT 11

2006-09-21 Thread Tom Irwin
Hi Joe and All,   I really don´t want to believe this. That´s part of the problem. But the buildings fell unusually fast, from film and stopwatch just about at freefall speeds. I would have thought if most of the structural steel was okay, except for the areas where the fires were, wouldn´t the

Re: [Biofuel] WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT 11

2006-09-20 Thread robert and benita rabello
Kirk McLoren wrote:   The rubble pile and its angle of repose is consistent with a vertical collapse. Simple fact. Your struggle with reality is something to behold.     I think you've got either a reading comprehension problem, or you're just being obstinate!  Please read this AGAIN

Re: [Biofuel] WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT 11

2006-09-20 Thread Kirk McLoren
>Yeap, when you're losing your argument, look for another stick to beat >your opponent.   Not at all. Just further illustration the truth is not in them.   Kirk[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Kirk McLoren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:>> No, but I know how to read, and I don't limit my reading to >> co

Re: [Biofuel] WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT 11

2006-09-20 Thread Kirk McLoren
>Not so.  The WTC towers didn't fall on their own footprints.  Many of the surrounding buildings were also >damaged as they came down.  You're grasping at straws, Kirk!.   The rubble pile and its angle of repose is consistent with a vertical collapse. Simple fact. Your struggle with reality is

Re: [Biofuel] WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT 11

2006-09-20 Thread robert and benita rabello
Marylynn Schmidt wrote: >Well, actually it has been the subject of this topic and has been asked in >at least 3 separate posts .. one post separately and two posts discussing >the three buildings .. two buildings hit by planes and one building Not hit >by planes. > > I've posted info for

Re: [Biofuel] WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT 11

2006-09-20 Thread Marylynn Schmidt
nablelists.org >To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org >Subject: Re: [Biofuel] WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT 11 >Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 17:12:05 -0700 > >Marylynn Schmidt wrote: > > >Thank you for this question .. it was building 7 .. actually it takes >quite > >a bit longer than a few days

Re: [Biofuel] WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT 11

2006-09-20 Thread robert and benita rabello
Marylynn Schmidt wrote: >Thank you for this question .. it was building 7 .. actually it takes quite >a bit longer than a few days .. more like months upon months of meticulous >planning and the careful setting of many, many explosive charges. > > Are you explaining that controlled demoli

Re: [Biofuel] WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT 11

2006-09-20 Thread agl
as > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of robert and benita > rabello > Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 3:35 PM > To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org > Subject: Re: [Biofuel] WHAT REALLY

Re: [Biofuel] WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT 11

2006-09-20 Thread Terry Dyck
>Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org >To: >Subject: Re: [Biofuel] WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT 11 >Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 08:27:47 -0500 > > >D. Mindock, > > I agree with you for the most part there are a ton of very >suspicious unanswered questions. Ther

Re: [Biofuel] WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT 11

2006-09-20 Thread agl
Quoting Kirk McLoren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> No, but I know how to read, and I don't limit my reading to >> conspiracy web sites. > > Unfortunately since you arent qualified to judge what you read you > accept information based on authority. Well I'm qualified to judge the data and the WT

Re: [Biofuel] WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT 11

2006-09-20 Thread agl
Quoting Joe Street <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > That's a very good point Kirk. I wonder how do the civil engineers > deal with that bit? Impact happened, jet fuel went everywhere, igniting everything in its path. The jet fuel would have probably played no part in the heating after a few minut

Re: [Biofuel] WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT 11

2006-09-20 Thread Marylynn Schmidt
://allcreatureconnections.org >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org >To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org >Subject: Re: [Biofuel] WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT 11 >Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 16:26:26 + > > > How were the authorities able to "

Re: [Biofuel] WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT 11

2006-09-20 Thread Logan vilas
PM To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT 11 Kirk McLoren wrote: Unfortunately since you arent qualified to judge what you read you accept information based on authority. What nonsense!!! Wrap your mind around something written

Re: [Biofuel] WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT 11

2006-09-20 Thread robert and benita rabello
Kirk McLoren wrote:   Unfortunately since you arent qualified to judge what you read you accept information based on authority.     What nonsense!!!     Wrap your mind around something written by an engineering firm:     "DID THE WORLD TRADE CENTER TOWERS ACTUALLY “IMPLODE”? No.

Re: [Biofuel] WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT 11

2006-09-20 Thread Kirk McLoren
>No, but I know how to read, and I don't limit my reading to conspiracy web sites.   Unfortunately since you arent qualified to judge what you read you accept information based on authority. That is a close second to voting on the truth. It seems odd you see organised control in the hydrocarbon

Re: [Biofuel] WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT 11

2006-09-20 Thread rjoseppi
   How were the authorities able to "Pull" , "take down" the partially disabled building (building 5 or something) so quickly. doesn't it usually take at lease a few days to set a building up for  an explosion/destruction?   Getting rid of the steel from the world trade center, I can understand th

Re: [Biofuel] WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT 11

2006-09-20 Thread robert and benita rabello
D. Mindock wrote: >Robert, > The towers and bldg 7 are just part of a larger puzzle. You want to >believe the buildings all fell down the same exact way, go ahead. > They didn't fall in the exact same way, but the reasons they collapsed are similar. I've explained this in another post.

Re: [Biofuel] WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT 11

2006-09-20 Thread robert and benita rabello
Kirk McLoren wrote: There was no falling until the first failure.     This means nothing, Kirk.  Of COURSE there was no falling until the first failure. A little logic would go a long way here.     Indeed! And it fell straight down. If it hadnt the rubble pile would have extended

Re: [Biofuel] WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT 11

2006-09-20 Thread Logan vilas
nal Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of D. Mindock Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 3:27 AM To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT 11 Robert, The towers and bldg 7 are just part of a larger puzzle. You want to bel

Re: [Biofuel] WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT 11

2006-09-20 Thread Joe Street
That's a very good point Kirk.  I wonder how do the civil engineers deal with that bit? Andrew? Joe Kirk McLoren wrote: To fall straight down means the failures supposedly caused by heat all happened at the same time. In the real world they lean  to the failed side and then forces cause m

Re: [Biofuel] WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT 11

2006-09-20 Thread bob allen
Osama bin laden is an engineer Kirk McLoren wrote: > There was no falling until the first failure. A little logic would go a > long way here. > And it fell straight down. If it hadnt the rubble pile would have > extended in the direction of fall. > Not rocket science here. Just basic evidence

Re: [Biofuel] WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT 11

2006-09-20 Thread D. Mindock
et the whole picture. Peace, D. Mindock - Original Message - From: "robert and benita rabello" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 7:43 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT 11 > Kirk McLoren wrote: > >> To fall straight d

Re: [Biofuel] WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT 11

2006-09-19 Thread Kirk McLoren
There was no falling until the first failure. A little logic would go a long way here. And it fell straight down. If it hadnt the rubble pile would have extended in the direction of fall. Not rocket science here. Just basic evidence. BTW Robert - you an engineer? I am - and my daughter is a PE.

Re: [Biofuel] WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT 11

2006-09-19 Thread robert and benita rabello
Kirk McLoren wrote: > To fall straight down means the failures supposedly caused by heat all > happened at the same time. In the real world they lean to the failed > side and then forces cause more failures. It is a very tricky business > making them fall straight down. But the dust prev

Re: [Biofuel] WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT 11

2006-09-19 Thread Kirk McLoren
To fall straight down means the failures supposedly caused by heat all happened at the same time. In the real world they lean  to the failed side and then forces cause more failures. It is a very tricky business making them fall straight down. KirkAndrew Lowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: D. Mindock

Re: [Biofuel] WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT 11

2006-09-19 Thread robert and benita rabello
Andrew Lowe wrote: > WHAT UTTER CRAP. One of the main causes of failure was that the steel >that comprised the floor trusses elongated due to heating. It didn't >melt, the heat caused its tensile strength to reduce until the floor >trusses failed causing lateral forces on the core which i

Re: [Biofuel] WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT 11

2006-09-19 Thread Andrew Lowe
D. Mindock wrote: > http://www.congress.org/congressorg/issues/alert/?alertid=9027371&content_dir=ua_congressorg > > WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT 11 > > As we celebrate the 5th anniversary of Sept 11, more questions about > what really happened that fateful day are surfacing. A businessman > fri

[Biofuel] WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT 11

2006-09-19 Thread D. Mindock
http://www.congress.org/congressorg/issues/alert/?alertid=9027371&content_dir=ua_congressorg   WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT 11     As we celebrate the 5th anniversary of Sept 11, more questions about what really happened that fateful day are surfacin