All,
Here's a quote which I have cherished over the years. I use it all
the time when working with computer software developers.
"There are no simple solutions to complex problems only simple minded
ones."
Systems theory has shown that the complexity of the problem will
require an equal or g
Been gone all weekend, this has been quite a hot topic. Anton makes
a very good point and I will attempt to add my two cents
without "bile".
I am new to bio-fuels and relatively new to alternative energy
analyses, I have really been enjoying the discussions on this list
and want to thank all
Hello Jerry
>Hi Scott and All,
>--- Scott & Cathy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > > Scott Nikolai
> >
> > Jerry and All
> >
> > Back to your garbage deal in Fla. Are you aware
> > of the gallant attempts
> > to produce Ethanol from garbage??
> Yes but waiting for 1 to actuall
Hello Andrew
>Been gone all weekend, this has been quite a hot topic. Anton makes
>a very good point and I will attempt to add my two cents
>without "bile".
>
>I am new to bio-fuels and relatively new to alternative energy
>analyses, I have really been enjoying the discussions on this list
>and
Hello Keith, not to beat a dead horse (although making bioD out of it
sounds good!) but bad math is a pet peeve of mine. The following is
clipped from one of Terry's recent posts:
> Take a coal burning electricity generating station. It works at 35%
> efficiency, so that's 65% of your prime en
Ah well, so much for sweetness and light!
Keith Addison
Journey to Forever
Handmade Projects
Tokyo
http://journeytoforever.org/
jerry dycus wrote:
> Hi Terry and All,
>--- biofuels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > OK, I don't mind responding to reason!
> > Of course my figures were wrong - I
I'm not into all the statistical "facts & figures" but I do have a
good working knowledge of both EVs and biodiesel powered cars. I have
one of each. I think that it is short-sighted to expect one straight
answer to all our vehicle needs. There is no one ideal solution. Both
EVs and biodiesel
Dear, dear Jerry
Nobody is disputing the fact that electric vehicles have some very
beneficial aspects - I spent a long time studying them in detail, and I am
not easily fooled. I changed my views, as a result.
I don't know what the Union of Concerned Scientist is concerned about, but
it certai
Dear, Dear, Deer, Terry, Kieth and All,
--- biofuels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dear, dear Jerry
>
> Nobody is disputing the fact that electric vehicles
> have some very
> beneficial aspects - I spent a long time studying
> them in detail, and I am
> not easily fooled. I changed my views, as
While the debate on EVs is still fresh, I have a couple of questions for
those with more experience (Jerry). I do actually own an EV (250 Watts), a
3-wheel Sinclair C5 which was bought new when they were first launched many
years ago. I used it every day to go to my office. Electricity costs w
ize if I offend anybody, I just been stuck home with the flu all
week and it
has a tendency to make me cranky.
Back to my EV design..now where was I?
---Bryan
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Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2001 7:43 AM
Subject: [biofuel] Re: EV
Jerry
I don't normally respond to sarcasm, nor to wild, unsubstantiated claims. I
have indicated that all of the environmentally based uses of technology have
their place, and agree that EVs powered by electricity coming from off-peak
and any sustainable solar or biofuels resources are beneficial
My last didn't come out too well - some of the methane data are immediately
below the fuel type. Thanks, Yahoo
Terry
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a point, emissions at a single power plant are easier to clean than
multiple sources, that makes EV's a little more worth consideration, on
environmental grounds at least. about highway lights, complete shutoff
would be a bad thing, but automatic vehicle and pedestrian sensing would
work nicely.
i've been working on it, simpler than you'd think.
jerry dycus wrote:Can you run you
> house with your car during blackouts?
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My good People
Since we seem a bit worked up about EV's, I might as well through my
two cents in. The problem I see about EV's is that they seem to stress an
already tired infrastructure. California anyone?? I realize that there are
regulation issues involved but doesn't it really boil down t
Hi Scott, Cathy and All,
--- Scott & Cathy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My good People
> Since we seem a bit worked up about EV's, I
> might as well through my
> two cents in. The problem I see about EV's is that
> they seem to stress an
> already tired infrastructure. California anyone??
Hi,
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> i've been working on it, simpler than you'd think.
How about some details?
Thanks, jerry dycus
>
> jerry dycus wrote:Can you run you
>
> > house with your car during blackouts?
>
__
Do Yo
> > Scott Nikolai
Jerry and All
Great to hear from someone on the same page. We are definitely gonna
have to delve deeper into all of this.
However there is one point about the EV's that I'd like to point out ( I do
agree "If you Want one"). In THEORY The EV's are SUPPOSED to be charged at
Scott & Cathy wrote:
> I'm planning on using wood Gasifier technology ( borrowed from the Stone
> Age I think ), which you probably figured out already. I plan to add quite a
> bit of contemporary technology and make it feasible. If I'm not mistaken,
> There's not a whole lot of ground betw
check out the woodgas info at http://www.webconx.com/woodgas.htm
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From: "robert luis rabello" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 3:26 PM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: EVs
>
>
> Scott & Cathy wrote:
>
> >
Hi Scott and All,
--- Scott & Cathy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > Scott Nikolai
>
> Jerry and All
>
> Great to hear from someone on the same page. We
> are definitely gonna
> have to delve deeper into all of this.
> However there is one point about the EV's that I'd
> like to point
I think that i the future we will have many different sustems to generate,
store, and use energy. I also think that the niftiest, most efficient car is
still going to be stuck in traffic most of its life. We as a people need to
figue re out a way to communicate, cooperate, and work together to sub
i've put it on my site
www.skaar.101main.net/new-designs.html
it's just a few simple pictures but i figure you can understand them,
mirroring it would be nice, but it's probably gonna change in a while.
jerry dycus wrote:
> Hi,
> --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > i've been working on it, simp
running a biodiesel powered generator that connects to an electric
transmission with battery main would make ev's something to consider.
Keith Addison wrote:
> > > Back to your garbage deal in Fla. Are you aware
> > > of the gallant attempts
> > > to produce Ethanol from garbage??
> > Y
Hi Keith and All,
--- Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello Jerry
>
> > > able to overwelm the
> > > Madcow'ers.
> >One can always hope.
>
> At least it has something to do with biofuels,
> unlike EVs? :-)
You asked about hybrids that started this thread
, which my EV
OK, I don't mind responding to reason!
Of course my figures were wrong - I hadn't a calculator handy, but the
illustration served to get people's brain cells working!
And yes, I did cite the worst example of coal-burning generation efficiency
for comparison - gas-fired cogen stations are far more
Hi Terry and All,
--- biofuels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> OK, I don't mind responding to reason!
> Of course my figures were wrong - I hadn't a
> calculator handy, but the
> illustration served to get people's brain cells
> working!
There was little reason in your post. Almost
everything
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From: "robert luis rabello" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: EVs
>
>
> Scott & Cathy wrote:
>
> > I'm planning on using wood Gasifier technology ( borrowed
Exactly right. Smart approach.
Ed
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Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 4:36 PM
Subject: [biofuel] Re: EVs
> I'm not into all the statistical "facts & figures" but I do have a
> good working knowledge of
y, February 16, 2001 12:58 AM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: EVs
> Exactly right. Smart approach.
>
> Ed
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> To:
> Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 4:36 PM
> Subject: [biofuel] Re: EVs
>
>
> > I'
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> From: "NBT - E. Beggs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To:
> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 12:58 AM
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>
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> > Exactly right. Smart approach.
> >
> > Ed
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