[swinog] AUTO: Moritz Höfer is out of the offi ce (returning 16.11.2009)

2009-11-10 Thread moritz . hoefer
I am out of the office until 16.11.2009. Vielen Dank für Ihre Nachricht. Zur Zeit bin ich abwesend und habe keinen E-Mail Zugang. Ihre Nachricht werde ich so bald ich zurück bin beantworten. Für dringende Angelegenheiten kontaktieren Sie bitte Belsoft AG per Telefon +41 (0)44 388 13 31. Thank y

[swinog] Looking for WIFI providers in EU

2009-11-10 Thread Christian Jouas
Hi Swinog members, I'm looking for providers in Europe able to install Wifi for special events and for long term presence in public places. This could be done over existing infrastructure or on newly installed gear. Do you have any recommendations for such companies covering countries like: Fran

Re: [swinog] mxbw.bluewin.ch timeout

2009-11-10 Thread Rene Luria
Andreas Weiler - Kabelfernsehen Boedeli AG a écrit : From my side it looks like (one of) the bluewin mailserver is not accepting any e-mail at the moment. Same thing here, three thousands mails in queue.. many of them reach the maximum delay etc... -- Rene Luria smime.p7s Description: S/M

[swinog] Hostpoint mail system

2009-11-10 Thread Mario Iseli
Hi, Could anyone responsible for the hostpoint mail system please contact me off-list? I have a question regarding your sender verification process... Best regards, Mario --- Mario Iseli Junior Network Systems Engineer Finecom Telecommunications AG Internet & Communication Robert-Walser-Platz

[swinog] killer app for IPv6

2009-11-10 Thread Stanislav Sinyagin
some time ago we already discussed that there's no killer application that would push the ipv6 deployment forward. [dreamy mood on] 1. If EU governments would declare that copyrighted content sharing over ipv6 network is completely legal, then we get immediately a huge demand. It could be lim

[swinog] Looking for WIFI providers in EU

2009-11-10 Thread Christian Jouas
Hi Swinog members, I'm looking for providers in Europe able to install Wifi for special events and for long term presence in public places. This could be done over existing infrastructure or on newly installed gear. Do you have any recommendations for such companies covering countries like: Fran

[swinog] Dreaming of anarchy (Was: killer app for IPv6)

2009-11-10 Thread Jeroen Massar
Stanislav Sinyagin wrote: > some time ago we already discussed that there's no killer application that > would > push the ipv6 deployment forward. > > [dreamy mood on] > > 1. If EU governments would declare that copyrighted content sharing over ipv6 > network is > completely legal, then we ge

Re: [swinog] Dreaming of anarchy (Was: killer app for IPv6)

2009-11-10 Thread Chris Meidinger
On 10.11.2009, at 14:43, Jeroen Massar wrote: > Stanislav Sinyagin wrote: >> some time ago we already discussed that there's no killer >> application that would >> push the ipv6 deployment forward. >> >> [dreamy mood on] >> >> 1. If EU governments would declare that copyrighted content sharing

Re: [swinog] killer app for IPv6

2009-11-10 Thread Guazzoni Daniele, CH
ROFL ! Or you force sex sites to use exclusively v6. Although this would probably lead into some name change: istead of IPvSix is gonna be IPvSex... :-) Sorry Stanislav for the duplicate... -Original Message- From: swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch]

Re: [swinog] Dreaming of anarchy (Was: killer app for IPv6)

2009-11-10 Thread Stanislav Sinyagin
Jeroen, - Original Message > From: Jeroen Massar > To: Stanislav Sinyagin > Cc: swi...@swinog.ch > Sent: Tue, November 10, 2009 2:43:39 PM > Subject: Dreaming of anarchy (Was: killer app for IPv6) > > Stanislav Sinyagin wrote: > > some time ago we already discussed that there's no ki

Re: [swinog] Dreaming of anarchy (Was: killer app for IPv6)

2009-11-10 Thread Jeroen Massar
Stanislav Sinyagin wrote: > Jeroen, > > > > - Original Message >> From: Jeroen Massar >> To: Stanislav Sinyagin >> Cc: swi...@swinog.ch >> Sent: Tue, November 10, 2009 2:43:39 PM >> Subject: Dreaming of anarchy (Was: killer app for IPv6) >> >> Stanislav Sinyagin wrote: >>> some time a

Re: [swinog] killer app for IPv6

2009-11-10 Thread Jeroen Massar
Guazzoni Daniele, CH wrote: [see below, you might want to solve your DNS setup, especially the part of having wrong NS in delegation and in-zone and then having the two NS's in the same /29 or /24 routed...] > ROFL ! > > Or you force sex sites to use exclusively v6. > Although this would probabl

Re: [swinog] killer app for IPv6

2009-11-10 Thread Stanislav Sinyagin
- Original Message > From: "Guazzoni Daniele, CH" > ROFL ! > > Or you force sex sites to use exclusively v6. > Although this would probably lead into some name change: istead of > IPvSix is gonna be IPvSex... forcing will not work, we all know that. The users have to be attracted b

Re: [swinog] killer app for IPv6

2009-11-10 Thread Rainer Duffner
Stanislav Sinyagin wrote: > > > forcing will not work, we all know that. The users have to be attracted by > some > new possibilities which they didn't have with ipv4. > > Free and completely legal movie downloads and spam-free email could be such > a driver. > > How does that work on IP

Re: [swinog] killer app for IPv6

2009-11-10 Thread Jeroen Massar
Rainer Duffner wrote: [..] > How does that work on IPV6 anyway? > I read that RBLs will be dead in IPV6-land, due to the fact that the > address-space can't be packed in a database anymore.. The person who writes that does not realize how much easier it becomes. RBLs will simply take a scheme of:

Re: [swinog] killer app for IPv6

2009-11-10 Thread Rainer Duffner
Jeroen Massar schrieb: > Rainer Duffner wrote: > [..] > >> How does that work on IPV6 anyway? >> I read that RBLs will be dead in IPV6-land, due to the fact that the >> address-space can't be packed in a database anymore.. >> > > The person who writes that does not realize how much easier i

[swinog] Spam and IPv6 (Was: killer app for IPv6)

2009-11-10 Thread Jeroen Massar
Rainer Duffner wrote: [..] >> You do mean as a scoring method I hope... > Yes, but we also block. Mostly dynamic IPs and stuff on the swinog/IX-RBL. > > On my own mailserver, I block all Asian IPs ;-) Well, then this should make your firewall a lot happier I guess: 8<-

Re: [swinog] Spam and IPv6 (Was: killer app for IPv6)

2009-11-10 Thread Per Jessen
Jeroen Massar wrote: > Though I really do > not see why one would want to block the countries where great tech > comes from. Just use an RBL, and solely use it for scoring Really useful stuff such as rbldnsd does not yet support IPv6 for listings. /Per -- Per Jessen, Zürich (5.3°C)

Re: [swinog] Dreaming of anarchy (Was: killer app for IPv6)

2009-11-10 Thread Stanislav Sinyagin
- Original Message > From: Peter Keel > Nobody is downloading "illegal content". It's the UPloading aka sharing > of copyright-protected content without a proper license which is illegal. if I'm not mistaken, in some European countries it's already illegal to just download copyrig

Re: [swinog] killer app for IPv6

2009-11-10 Thread Stanislav Sinyagin
- Original Message > From: Rainer Duffner > How does that work on IPV6 anyway? > I read that RBLs will be dead in IPV6-land, due to the fact that the > address-space can't be packed in a database anymore.. > Currently, RBLs are an important part of our spam-defence. I mean, drop the

Re: [swinog] Dreaming of anarchy (Was: killer app for IPv6)

2009-11-10 Thread Jeroen Massar
Peter Keel wrote: > * on the Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 03:01:44PM +0100, Jeroen Massar wrote: >> How exactly would it do that? People using P2P (and don't forget NTTP >> and various other methods) for downloading illegal (aka stuff that is >> copyrighted) content do so because they don't want to pay for

Re: [swinog] Dreaming of anarchy (Was: killer app for IPv6)

2009-11-10 Thread Peter Keel
* on the Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 03:01:44PM +0100, Jeroen Massar wrote: > How exactly would it do that? People using P2P (and don't forget NTTP > and various other methods) for downloading illegal (aka stuff that is > copyrighted) content do so because they don't want to pay for the content. Stop rig

Re: [swinog] killer app for IPv6

2009-11-10 Thread Jeroen Massar
Stanislav Sinyagin wrote: > > > > - Original Message >> From: Rainer Duffner > >> How does that work on IPV6 anyway? >> I read that RBLs will be dead in IPV6-land, due to the fact that the >> address-space can't be packed in a database anymore.. >> Currently, RBLs are an important par

Re: [swinog] killer app for IPv6

2009-11-10 Thread Stanislav Sinyagin
well, I'm not crazy to develop a new ultimate spam killer from scratch :) but those groups don't seem to propose something new either. I'm just telling that SMTP is not the right protocol for email delivery: -- why do client-to-server and server-to-server have to be the same protocol on the sa