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number.
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an answer. That would solve the problem or at least would
make it possible to index the lemma fields for the indexed search.
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in the
past, but nowadays it's buggy. This happens in Kubuntu Linux where I use
the latest 1.6.1 sword package from the crosswire PPA. I don't remember
when the bug appeared.
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ok Bibles may never become a
> necessity.
> --Greg
>
> On Jan 27, 2010, at 11:42 AM, Eeli Kaikkonen > wrote:
> > There are at least two genbook Bibles in the Experimental CrossWire
> > repository: LXXM and KJVgb. They don't work properly in our Bible
> > vi
for this module?
Without trying or knowing anything about this specific problem I just
say that ZhEnglish has been buggy for very long time. The keys can't be
traversed though, it will become an unending loop. Maybe this happens
also when creating the index. What application are you using?
doesn't work, we can
live with the fact for a while. More important is that it doesn't break
anything else.
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nd one which you would like to push forward. For
SWORD specific information see http://www.crosswire.org/wiki/Main_Page.
Each frontend project has its own web pages and developer teams. I'm a
BibleTime developer myself.
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to find out if
there's anything relevant for developers. Even better would be to put an
advertisement warning in the subject field. The subject of this thread
is quite weird.
No hard feelings though.
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test BibleTime with SWORD
1.6.1 soon anyways, and maybe Gary can look in the Windows build and
update the wiki. It also may just have some ambiguate instructions which
should also be fixed.
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t warnings
excluded, which are the problem here). It would of course be a good
practice for any project to use -Werror for all occasions if possible.
Could the library developers always use -Werror even if it's not a
"normal" flag?
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x27;t show it properly, then it's a bug in the frontend.
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in the position of the previous "it", which should
> communicate your intent.
The description is good now. Thank you very much.
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;. Maybe "Its window layout is very versatile
which with some other features makes working with..."
On the other hand, I could be happy with the current text, except for
the heading.
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makes working with even large number of
text modules easy."
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translator has transcribed the names.
But if the common list has both native and English names, each frontend
can of course choose what to do. If our users complain, I'm ready to
discuss about changing our choice.
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onical list in the native language so that any frontend
could show the native language name in parenthesis or in a tooltip or
whatever. The canonical list should be in English anyways because
English is the default language for any i18n'ed computer application.
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al" forms if possible because it feels more
respectful to each language.
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on't see downsides in the other approach,
either.
> I'll start implementing this in a day or two, if no one raises an objection.
>
There was a discussion about some batch module updates once concerning a
change in copyright notices or something else I don't remember anymore.
I t
e module version, users should see only
the correct name of the language (or a language code if frontend is too
old to have the name for the language). Is it possible? How?
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be
easier than with BibleTime because BT does it in several threads and
makes possible cancelling each module separately. I don't know about
other frontends.
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Index: src/mgr/curlftpt.cpp
===
--- src/mgr/curlftpt.cpp (r
tall only the latest config file without
downloading the module.
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but ftptransport and installmgr, too.
There are some functions which have several returns in several
occasions, so it's not simple enough for me to fix it quickly. I would
appreciate if someone who has been involved writing it could review
On Mon, 2 Nov 2009, Eeli Kaikkonen wrote:
> > in getURL:
> > - curl_easy_setopt(session, CURLOPT_PROGRESSDATA, statusReporter);
> > + curl_easy_setopt(session, CURLOPT_PROGRESSDATA, this);
> >
> > in my_fprogress:
> > - ((StatusReporter *)c
elopers
have to test the thread safety as much as they can. I recommend
installing a private local ftp server and testing with that.
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On Fri, 30 Oct 2009, Eeli Kaikkonen wrote:
> It shouldn't be too hard to replace per-object easy_init with static
> global_init.
This seems to be easier than any. Currently curlftpt.cpp has these
lines:
static CURLFTPTransport_init _CURLFTPTransport_init;
CURLFTPTra
er-object easy_init with static
global_init.
This thread safety problem with the download termination problem have
caused crashes in BibleTime. I'm planning to implement our own transport
with the Qt library, but if these problems are fixed, we might go on
with the default sword implementation
news, CrossWire news etc. a bit later.
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kes the download a bit larger though).
> Web page also has been updated with new screenshots and such.
>
I don't have Mac but noticed a bug in a screenshot :) Gen 4:1-20 shows
1.Mose4 and Offenbarung 1 (which really is 1.Mose4:13). Can you explain
that?
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are, so the
non-utf8 locale is actually a fallback if there are both for some
languge. I think you should see the source code.
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This is only my opinion which is based on very superficial knowledge on
S60 port of Qt. I would be happy if someone really ported BT for S60 and
if it worked.
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ith file
permissions. If the Preferred directory is selected and the user doesn't
have write permissions, creating an index fails. At least the user
should be given a notice: "You don't have permission to write to x/x/x.
You can create a new index to you home directory by temporarily
di
uot; and
"1 Lord, how are they increased that trouble me! many are they that rise
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- information on possible experimental or unofficial packages
Whether this page will be useful or not depends on the people who edit
it. My hope is that it's easier to keep up to date than our static web
page "Download of BibleTime" (by the way, is the name of the page bad
ember anymore what I should do after that. So, if Troy takes
care of the first point, maybe Troy or someone else can then help me
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clicks "Update the list of sources". Now the fronted could show a
dialog: "New sources available" with checkboxes. The user could choose
which sources to add. Is this supported in the engine?
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ed .conf
file, then download .zip files to a local temp location and install
from them. No need to support any arbitrary remote directory structure.
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command line tool? Like this:
$ publishmod --zip MyMod /var/www/sword/
Zipping module data...
Copying the zipped module to /var/www/sword/...
Adding mymod.conf to /var/www/sword/mods.d.tar.gz...
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2. We need to support http.
3. We don't need to support the old, standard non-zipped directory
structure with http because it's not needed for backwards compatibility.
I think Troy's argument is right for module libraries, create
ds/mods.d.tar.gz
- path/to/sword/downloads/KJV.zip
- path/to/sword/downloads/ESV.zip
- ...
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If nobody has something against it, I'll add this question and answer to
the FAQ. It has been asked every now and then for a long time.
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*
The WLC module foes not include any kind of morphological tags. We are
considering additi
w system needs
learning and I couldn't create a cmake script for SWORD, so I can't
volunteer, but I just say that "anything is better than autotools".
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[Book Abbrevs] section there seem to be several book names which
are not in the [Text] #Apocr section. E.g. Enoch. Is this on purpose?
How they should be handled?
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the normal conventions. I have never heard that RC wouldn't be a
release. For every project I have ever seen publishing an RC it has been
a "release" which is of course tagged in the vcs.
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Quoting DM Smith :
I like your suggestion. Give that CC are legal licenses, it appears
that this summary is complete, perhaps drafted by lawyers :0
The problem with it is that it's too long. I don't want to give a
legally correct statement, only a short and easily understandable
statement
at least in my opinion, that the
Sword library is growing in importance. Our practices and skills
should just grow along with it.
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known for long (inflected) words and it shouldn't be very hard to add
hyphens programmatically.
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passages. Do you have any suggestions for wording? I'm not a native
English speaker so the text may be clumsy...
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it, I can't just set the confirmed value to true. I don't want to
decide when to show it but leave it to the library - then it's shown
when the user does something with network for the first time.
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I didn't actually have seen a reason yet to subclass it.
Why do you subclass InstallMgr?
Because I can :)
To be serious, it's nothing more than a design decision which could
have been done otherwise. Maybe it will be changed one day. BibleTime
doesn't have one g
h
with a pure virtual method or something. If a class can be used on its
own it should work out of the box for most common cases, IMO. Letting
people think it works for a GUI frontend (the most common case) even
if it doesn't is wrong.
-
it's better
to have both the setter method and the virtual checker method.
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The first question is: have you already read http://crosswire.org/wiki,
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needed.
As a side note, personally I would go even further and put a "don't
show this warning anymore" checkbox in the dialog. The result would be
saved in the user configuration, so he doesn't need to answer that
question again after quitti
luding the AleWiesler module."
Are these x-E codes really used somewhere? I didn't find any by grepping
the repositories' .conf files. AleWiesler doesn't even exist.
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the program if you also distribute the corresponding source code.
The complete legally binding license is below."
That text is translatable. It should be enough to give something like
this, if not the same, in the installer.
It could even be reasonable to write a common text for
change? Or should I
just read the installmgr or soon to come comments and use the existing API?
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I forward this from bt-devel because some people here might be
interested on Windows and Mac binaries (see 2) and 3) below) of BibleTime.
Original Message
Subject: [bt-devel] CPack and other patches
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 00:17:14 -0500
From: Greg Hellings
Reply-To: BibleTime
but it doesn't go to v.15 but to 20.1 (it
doesn't show "1 Ps 19.15" as above but "1 Ps 20.1", so it's really in 20.1).
Searching works partially: Result list shows Psalms 19:15 but the
preview shows 20:1-3.
On the bright side, I haven'
ion or
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Eeli Kaikkonen wrote:
Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
Jonathan Marsden wrote:
I'm seeing a problem building BT 2.0.alpha3 with the new 1.6.0RC1 SWORD
/home/jonathan/packages/sword/bibletime/export-rc1/src/backend/managers/cswordbackend.cpp:498:
error: ‘sysconfig’ was not declared in this
Eeli Kaikkonen wrote:
Xiphos has patched the Sword library to handle all utf16 pathnames
correctly on Windows. I reproduced this with BibleTime on Windows, so
it's not Xiphos alone. Greg Hellings told he doesn't want to release BT
on Windows before this issue has been solved in lib
hing. What should we do?
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Quoting Eeli Kaikkonen :
My opinion to the second problem: allow highlighting only when other
features are turned off. I don't see any other reasonable way to do it.
I forgot: my suggestion is based on using the plain text filter of the
engine. It may make the text look different
wing
for each verse if it has been changed.
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all developers notice all issues and possibly comment on them.
Depending on the amount of traffic and available filtering options it
could be reasonable to do the same for crosswire bugtracker and
mailing list.
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Thanks for your patience. I don't want to blame Troy or anyone else
about this, even though this was a reaction to Troy's post.
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Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
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- findConfig(&configType, &prefixPath, &configPath, &augPaths, sysconfig);
+ findConfig(&configType, &prefixPath, &configPath, &augPaths, &sysConfig);
Note BOTH the camelCase change and the addition of the &am
Eeli Kaikkonen wrote:
It reloads the sword config in case it has been changed, e.g. the module
data paths have been changed. I hope someone could help - I haven't
written this and mgruner was the last one to edit this.
Troy already answered this on bt-devel, thanks.
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gPath);
}
else if (config) {
config->Load();
}
initModules(reason);
}
It reloads the sword config in case it has been changed, e.g. the module
data paths have been changed. I hope someone could help - I haven't
written this and mgruner
too much, and even a successful attempt has a learning curve.
If the library is packaged and tested like this, it requires a
standardized release cycle with certain minimum time for packaging and
testing the alpha/beta/rc.
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re the new v11n system, it
should be thought whether it needs a v11n marker or not. If there's
any possibility that the module may be replaced by another module in
some useful way, there should be a way to specify the v11n.
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the frontend licence may be changed to any licence and the source code
can be closed. Therefore, let's just use the GPL and add an additional
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If you add the source code to the distribution memory stick or cd or
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is to describe real use
cases like you did, as exactly as possible. After that we can discuss
about possible implementations.
One fundamental design decision is whether to use the sword engine and a
new API or not. Another one is whether one API/technology/standard is
enough or do we need
he users a user
interface which allows using the bookmarks in other compliant apps.
I take very strongly the "version independent
unless asked otherwise" viewpoint.
I agree. In that case we need to take care of v11n. People want a
specific passage, not wha
We have a new pre-alpha BibleTime for Windows. Icons work now.
Bookshelf Manager doesn't crash anymore but the config dialog crashes
for me.
You can use
http://devel.bibletime.info/wiki/Building_on_Windows#Issues to quickly
report bugs.
- Forwarded message from greg.helli...@gmail.c
be difference between Win9x
support, Win2000 support, XP support and 64bit Vista support. They can
be put to rows.
Then the tables would look like this with icons instead of text marks:
BT Xiph SfW
footnotes V Vv(1)
feature2 X XV
Quoting Geoffrey W Hasstings :
Do you have an idea when it will be available for test on windows vista.
Greg H said he could do it Sunday evening. There exists already one
package but the icons don't work and it crashes too much. We hope
these will be fixed in the next package.
-
name "foreign" is always
lower case in all modules.
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Win 3.1
Win 95
Win 98
...
Alk BD BT BPB...
Language
Translated UI
RtoL UI
RtoL in texts
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upport is not limited by the
GUI toolkit. I don't know yet if there are any other limitations.
But as I said I wouldn't remove BibleCS. I hope people continue to
support and enhance it, at least if they don't want to code BibleTime or
Xiphos or some other frontend.
Yours,
E
bibletime.info/wiki/BuildingBibleTime#Mac
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Eeli Kaikkonen writes:
But if you allow me to go back to BibleTime - ... At the moment
we have less manpower than Xiphos have had for some time
To me, that's an extraordinary and peculiar claim, considering the
dearth of contributors (at least in SVN co
signers, C++/Qt coders, Windows specialists, translators etc.
Thorough testing is more important than ever, as the Xiphos developers
already have noticed. We want to find bugs before publishing, so
please try BibleTime.
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hread
safe terminate() which calls ftpmgr's thread safe terminate() which
calls underlying ftp library's thread-safe connection termination function.
Writing an ftpmgr implementation inside an app can solve this problem
because it can be terminated d
entaa lisää tekstejä?
1.2.1 BibleTime
1.2.2 GnomeSword
1.2.3 Komentorivi
Then this module could be given to the packagers. It could be a
dependency for GS and BT (or the library).
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- Edelleenvälitetty viesti lähettäjältä
jsulli...@opensourcedevel.com -
Päiväys: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 11:08:43 -0400
Lähettäjä: "John A. Sullivan III"
Vastausosoite: BibleTime development
Otsikko: [bt-devel] 64-bit Perso
urces. But you shouldn't use G-K without asking the
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ers can create accounts they can create links, too.
6) Failed login attempts (purpose is to foil automated password cracking).
Fair enough.
If necessary I can add captcha to every edit and to every page creation.
Please, never! I'll stop using wiki at that phase.
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default v11n? Or should it be possible to select one of the used v11ns?
Have the developers already thought about these? Have you decided to use
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Forums. Look at Ubuntu who do manage to keep a unified look for whatever
part of the site you move.
On the other hand, most of the websites don't have strictly unified look
between different techologies. It's OK to have separate main pages,
developer wiki and user forums.
ton Patch Version
And remember that this is only my definition. Someone else may disagree.
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special link section and it's
good there.
Considering the amount of help requests in the support mailing list the
Mac module installation help would be the most important one.
--Eeli Kaikkonen
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