[sword-devel] OSIS

2013-01-26 Thread araj
Can anyone tell me whether I can post OSIS-related questions here - and if not, whether there is somewhere else which handles them? Thanks, "Jamie" Jamieson ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listin

[sword-devel] osis

2005-12-01 Thread Lalremlien Neitham
Hello, i am new to to sword and osis. can anybody please tell me how to easily convert a raw bible text to osis xml?   i am planning to make a bible in my peoples dialect (not a very common dialect/ language though the script is in Roman) that will be put up online.   thanks   Lal _

[sword-devel] OSIS

2012-06-11 Thread Ashley Bye
Sir I hope you are able to help or point me in the right direction. I am developing a web app and require OSIS documents to be broken down into a per chapter scheme. Will this break the OSIS markup? Are there programs available to do this conversion or dod I need to do it manually? I am using OS

[sword-devel] OSIS

2012-12-08 Thread Chris Burrell
Hi all Is there a list somewhere of elements that can contain canonical text. For example "verse" and "q" can contain this. But "note" cannot. Chris ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS

2013-01-26 Thread David Haslam
Hi Jamie, If after reading all the OSIS related pages in our developers' wiki, you still have OSIS related questions, then - yes - by all means ask them here. This list is very active (unlike some of our other lists). There'll be many messages that ar

[sword-devel] OSIS questions

2013-01-26 Thread araj
I'm trying to convert a number of USFM documents to OSIS using my own software, and then to Sword using osis2mod. However, I'm relatively new to OSIS, and am struggling somewhat. Don't know if anyone can comment on any of the following issues? * : "Normalized name of the Bible version (Usu

[sword-devel] OSIS Variants

2013-02-08 Thread Chris Burrell
Hi Is there are standard subType pattern that modules are supposed to follow? It seems Byz and WHNU are using x- where n is the variant number. αχας | αχαζ | 881 {N-PRI} | αχας αχαζ I'm seeing some code taken originally from BibleDesktop which suggests subType can be x-class-1 ? A pos

[sword-devel] OSIS Editor

2013-05-02 Thread Pola Edward
Hi, as you know, I've made a very simple .net application to be used as a commentary editor, to make it easy for non-technical servants to use it to generate valid osis xml it's interface is very simple, it asks if you enter a verse or verse range commentary and let you enter a title and bod

[sword-devel] OSIS documentation

2013-05-28 Thread Chris Burrell
Hi Just spotted a typo in the OSIS documentation. Section 4 Your first OSIS Document, the XML example's preamble has the wrong URL for BibleTechnologies.net xsi:schemaLocation="http://www.bibletechnologies.net/2003/OSIS/namespace http://www.bi*blt*echn*olgol*ogies.net/OSIS/osisCore.2.1.xsd";> s

[sword-devel] OSIS Glosses?

2014-12-11 Thread David Haslam
Are there any front-end apps that have support for OSIS Glosses? See http://crosswire.org/wiki/OSIS_Bibles#Marking_glosses David -- View this message in context: http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.com/OSIS-Glosses-tp4654301.html Sent from the SWORD Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

[sword-devel] OSIS Variants ?

2017-10-14 Thread David Haslam
Apart from Xiphos, which other front-ends have UI support for variants ? Any development plans in this area? Best regards, David -- Sent from: http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.com/ ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www

[sword-devel] OSIS questions

2017-12-30 Thread Tom Sullivan
Y'all: Now that I am able to examine, briefly so far, some "production" OSIS, both incompleteness and discrepancies in the OSIS documentation are very apparent. I do have the OSIS 2.1.1 manual. Am I missing some documentation? Examples: OSIS manual: div and p are not listed as milestonable. ES

[sword-devel] OSIS 1.5

2003-06-18 Thread Jimmie Houchin
Subject: re: [sword-devel] 1.5.6 todo Date: May 28, 2003 Troy A. Griffitts wrote: [snip] > After last week's meetings, this and many OSIS documents > are not valid against the coming OSIS 1.5 spec. :) [snip] Any information available on the OSIS 1.5 spec? I would like to write an OSIS parser in Sq

[sword-devel] OSIS filters

2003-07-26 Thread Chris Little
People creating custom filters for translation of OSIS to other formats, please watch the development of CVS over the next few days. I will be overhauling the OSIS filters. (The BT team are the only ones who I know this applies do, but others watch out as well, if you're creating your own filters.

[sword-devel] OSIS XSL

2003-09-03 Thread Andrew Vardeman
Okay, I've got a quick version that will dump raw verse text from two bibles into a two-column HTML table, a verse at a time. I'll start fiddling with templates for some of the inline markup. Does ABS want fancy hyperlinking or mostly straight text? Do they care about Strong's numbers, etc?

[sword-devel] OSIS / Diaspora

2003-12-12 Thread Simon Lagendijk
Hi all, Sometime ago, some stated on this mailinglist he was working on a new version of Diaspora. Is he still working on it, or has development stopped? I just asks, because the mod2osis has some strange behaviour, it doesn't output the tags, only the main text, and I would like to have some

[sword-devel] OSIS Tags

2003-12-24 Thread RDN12345
This is from the new W.H. text (utf8 encoded) the first word has 2 Strong's numbers, can anyone tell me where I have made the mistake in the OSIS markup? David Matt 5:1 ÃÂÂÃÂÃÂÂàÃÂàÃâÃÂÃÂÂÃâ ÃÂâÃâÃÂÃÂÃâÃâ ÃÂâÃÂÃÂÂÃÂàÃÂÃÂÂÃâ ÃâàÃÂâÃÂÃÂÃâ, ÃÂÃÂàÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÂÃÆÃÂÃÂÃâÃÂÃâ ÃÂÃÂÂÃâÃÂàÃâÃ

[sword-devel] OSIS Commentaries

2008-02-27 Thread DM Smith
Earlier I had promised to work on making osis2mod handle OSIS commentaries and while I thought I'd get to it much earlier I'm going to get started. I am starting a page in the wiki for it: http://www.crosswire.org/wiki/index.php?title=OSIS_Commentaries I haven't saved it so wait a bit. Feel fre

[sword-devel] OSIS scope

2008-03-26 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
To anyone's knowledge, are we anywhere using scope on work in the OSIS header? Patrick and Jim Albright want to remove it and have it autogenerated from the content, if needed. They were wondering if anyone was using it for anything constructive that couldn't be generated. -Troy. __

[sword-devel] OSIS huh?

2008-07-09 Thread Greg Hellings
So I've overcome my problems with the chapter/book titles - I hadn't set the Headings() option to on. Now that I've figured that one out, I've run into this curiosity. It appears in the kjvfull.xml (and also in the KJV module), but not in the kjv.xml and so on. The first occurrence appears to be

[sword-devel] OSIS genbooks

2008-11-28 Thread Daniel Owens
I just finished creating a basic guide to writing OSIS genbooks on the wiki (http://www.crosswire.org/wiki/index.php/OSIS_Genbooks). Feel free to add to it or correct it. I am still missing instructions on internal and external links... Do I dare bring that subject up again? :) I know there is

[sword-devel] OSIS introductions

2008-11-30 Thread DM Smith
I'd like to suggest a change in how osis2mod handles introductory material. SWORD only stores verses and has a concept of verse 0 holding introductory material. Given a tuple, (testament, book, chapter, verse) we have the following introductions (testament, book, chapter, 0) - a chapter int

[sword-devel] OSIS questions ?

2008-12-30 Thread Tonny Kohar
Hi, Does anyone know the usage of attribute type="x-split" subType="x-33" from element for tagging eg: the Holy Ghost so what is - type attribute - subType attribute Cheers Tonny Kohar -- Alkitab Bible Study imagine, design, create ... http://www.kiyut.com

[sword-devel] OSIS Commentaries

2009-01-18 Thread Peter von Kaehne
Looking finally on a long neglected pile of files for an Persian commentary I stumbled over a few things which bug me dt lack of knowledge 1) If material is not meant to refer to any particular verse, but only to the whole chapter - content summaries etc does it go into verse 0 or is it simply lef

[sword-devel] OSIS editor

2009-02-25 Thread Adrian Korten
Good day, I'm advising a team of Thai people who would like to prepare a Bible and book for import to Sword. They currently have both texts in Word with in-line mark-up (no styles). I assume that they would need to save as raw text and then start adding the markup. Could someone advise on a g

[sword-devel] OSIS Reader

2004-04-29 Thread Don A. Elbourne Jr.
I just hacked together a little OSIS reader using the test OSIS files from ABS, XUL, XSLT, and a little JavaScript. Grab the zip file and decompress it to a folder. Using either Mozilla or Firefox open the index.htm file and click on "Launch OSISreader." The app doesn't do much other than displ

[sword-devel] OSIS Versions

2005-03-29 Thread DM Smith
Do we need to add an OSISVersion=x.x to a book's conf? In comparing the draft of the 2.1 spec with that of 2.0 (for certain elements), I noticed that the "hi" element has a type="italic" (or one of the other 6 standard or a proprietary x-) and in 2.1 it is rend="italic". Granted, it is a draft, but

[sword-devel] OSIS support

2005-05-06 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
Just committed some updates to our OSIS conversion filters and tools. I think they're able to export valid OSIS from most markup types now. I recently was successful in exporting WHNU ThML module with variant and word markup and it validated. I used seg for marking variants. I think our expo

[sword-devel] OSIS formatting

2005-06-06 Thread Greg Hellings
Howdy! I have been working with some possible modules in ThML, but would like to try and migrate their base formatting into OSIS so that I can create the modules as other than General Book with a minimal amount of effort.  So far the process of migration has gone well with one exception: I am unab

[sword-devel] OSIS Commentary

2005-08-16 Thread DM Smith
What is the proper markup for a Commentary in OSIS so that it can be loaded as a Sword Module? As I looked at it, if I were to mark up a commentary as an OSIS Bible with the content about a verse using the and tags, and make the ModDrv=RawCom then it will work just fine. The only trick is to

Re: [sword-devel] osis

2005-12-01 Thread Greg Hellings
You might want to look into the SwordModuleCreator, as discussed earlier on this list, which includes support for both THmL and OSIS markups.  It looks fairly straightforward, although I have yet to run it.  It might require an install of wxMSW, which is available here.  It should help you to chang

Re: [sword-devel] osis

2005-12-01 Thread DM Smith
Lalremlien Neitham wrote: Hello, i am new to to sword and osis. can anybody please tell me how to easily convert a raw bible text to osis xml? If your bible follows the exact same verse structure as the King James Version and your file is exactly one verse per line (vpl) you may be able to c

Re: [sword-devel] osis

2005-12-01 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
Lal, We also have tracked down our old and outdated OSIS tutorial. I think it's very helpful, but others might disagree with me. It's at the bottom of our OSIS page: http://crosswire.org/osis Lalremlien Neitham wrote: Hello, i am new to to sword and osis. can anybody please tell me how t

Re: [sword-devel] osis

2005-12-01 Thread Lalremlien Neitham
hello all,   thank you very much for the response. it is gratefully appreciated. i will take your suggestions and read up the text of the suggested links. i hope i can solve my problem. thank oyu very much.   regards,   lal  On 12/2/05, Troy A. Griffitts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Lal,   We als

Re: [sword-devel] osis

2005-12-02 Thread Lalremlien Neitham
Hello All,   I am back again with one step taken. I created an OSIS XML file. And it works ok. Now the next part is - how do i make new lines for verses? I tried it with HTML's but its not working :-))   I also found some problems in regards to some special characters in my language, such as:   â

Re: [sword-devel] osis

2005-12-03 Thread DM Smith
Lalremlien Neitham wrote: Hello All, I am back again with one step taken. I created an OSIS XML file. And it works ok. Now the next part is - how do i make new lines for verses? I tried it with HTML's but its not working :-)) OSIS does not have line breaks per se. There is a "line break

Re: [sword-devel] osis

2005-12-10 Thread Joachim Ansorg
Hi, I don't know if this has been answered already. > I also found some problems in regards to some special characters in my > language, such as: > > â (Alt + 0226) > ê (Alt + 0234) > î (Alt + 0238) > ô (Alt + 0244) > û (Alt + 0251) Did you encode those as Utf-8? That's the preferred solution, I

[sword-devel] OSIS markup

2007-04-29 Thread DM Smith
What is the proper way to markup a note that reiterates only a part of a verse and that part is the start of a quotation which use in the verse? Example: The note is: (where {} indicate italics) Lit {saying, ``The} The only things I can come up with are: 1) Don't use the quote element in not

[sword-devel] OSIS difficulties

2007-08-25 Thread Daniel Owens
I'm working on tagging a bible in OSIS, and when I use osis2mod the module shows up in Bibletime, but there are a few quirks I'd appreciate help with. I followed the examples from the OSIS website. 1. Section headings in the middle of a chapter result in a new line between the verse number and

[sword-devel] OSIS variants

2010-01-07 Thread Daniel Owens
I see that SWORD supports ThML variants very well, but I am trying to create a module with variants in OSIS. Consulting the wiki, I see that I should mark these up as follows: הוצא הַיְצֵ֣א However, since there is no conf option for this, both variants show up in the text (Xiphos and BibleTim

[sword-devel] osis-users

2010-01-13 Thread Chris Little
I don't think Troy mentioned the recent creation of the osis-users mailing list, but I'd like to encourage anyone interested in OSIS encoding to join that list. I hope that purely OSIS-oriented discussions will be posted there, because we can expect a community of OSIS experts (and learners/new

[sword-devel] OSIS Validation

2010-06-28 Thread Greg Hellings
OSIS and import experts, So I'm working on the elusive Holy Grail of dumping out valid OSIS from the engine into an XML file of the module. What I am currently getting from the engine has two parts that fail to validate as OSIS when I'm working with the KJV module. Namely, those Psalms that have

[sword-devel] OSIS links

2011-01-18 Thread Peter von Kaehne
Do they work? What is the proper format for a internal link - i.e. table of content in a GenBook? Peter ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change you

[sword-devel] OSIS tables?

2011-10-15 Thread David Haslam
Does SWORD support in modules built from OSIS? If so, which front-ends render tables properly? The wiki page about http://crosswire.org/wiki/OSIS_Bibles OSIS Bibles makes no mention of such. David -- View this message in context: http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.com/OSIS-tables-tp3907123p3

[sword-devel] OSIS example

2012-03-03 Thread Daniel Owens
Based on varied sources, including Patrick's helpful example OSIS Bible, I put together an example OSIS "Bible" that validates and is consistent with the wiki page on OSIS Bibles ( http://www.crosswire.org/wiki/OSIS_Bibles). The text itself is mostly KJV text, with a little Hebrew to illustrate

[sword-devel] OSIS IDs

2012-09-24 Thread Chris Burrell
Hi all A quick question. Are OSIS IDs unique across modules? I.e. if we are trying to match up verses in a chapter for comparison purposes, can we assume that the OSIS ID in each module (regardless of the language) is the same, so Gen.1.1 would be Gen.1.1 regardless of the language of the Greek/He

[sword-devel] OSIS Schema

2012-10-14 Thread DM Smith
The OSIS schema is a bit convoluted how it allows two different document models. I've been thinking that it might make sense to have three distinct OSIS schemas. The one we have now would be one of the three. The other two would be for the other two document models. The problem I'm coming up ag

[sword-devel] OSIS catchWord

2012-10-14 Thread DM Smith
In working on the ESV, catchWord is used a lot in notes to tie the note to the text in the verse. I'm running into a problem with Exodus 3:14. The input text I'm coming from is: God said to Moses, “I am who I am.”Or I am what I am, or I will be what I will be And he said, “Say this to the peop

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS

2012-12-08 Thread David Haslam
Chris, Page 18 of the OSIS Reference includes, "The canonical attribute is available on all elements. It has a ‘default’ value so it does not have to be entered by the encoder if the default value is acceptable. Here it is shown with its default value of true on osisText so the reader can see it

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS questions

2013-01-26 Thread DM Smith
Others should chime in too. This just a partial answer. Basic overview: OSIS should be written to the OSIS specification. We recommend a document centric representation where Book, Chapter, Section, Paragraph, Line Group and Lines are dominant and verse elements are milestoned. This is transform

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS questions

2013-01-26 Thread David Haslam
DM wrote, Peter and Chris maintain a converter for USFM to OSIS, written in Perl. You might find that helpful. Off hand I don't know where that is. You can get more information by searching this list or from them. Also, Kahunapule Michael Johnson on this list has converters that he uses. He has m

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS questions

2013-01-26 Thread Chris Burrell
Yes, Kahunapule Michael Johnson has built Haiola. Recently he's made a big effort to get USFM/USFX texts into OSIS format. You can find Haiola here: http://haiola.org/ Chris On 26 January 2013 17:13, David Haslam wrote: > DM wrote, > > Peter and Chris maintain a converter for USFM to OSIS, wr

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS questions

2013-01-26 Thread Kahunapule Michael Johnson
Title: signature On 01/26/2013 06:05 AM, DM Smith wrote: On Jan 26, 2013, at 10:13 AM, wrote: > I'm trying to convert a number of USFM documents to OSIS using my own > software, and then to Sword using osis2mod. However, I'm relatively new to > OSIS, an

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS questions

2013-01-27 Thread ARA Jamieson
Thank you very much - will do. Jamie _ From: Kahunapule Michael Johnson [mailto:kahunap...@mpj.cx] Sent: 26 January 2013 19:55 To: sword-devel@crosswire.org Subject: Re: [sword-devel] OSIS questions On 01/26/2013 06:05 AM, DM Smith wrote: On Jan 26, 2013, at 10:13 AM

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS Variants

2013-02-08 Thread DM Smith
The form in Byz and WHNU are what we've settled on for OSIS. If we find something else in an OSIS module, then we probably should log it in Jira. In Him, DM On Feb 8, 2013, at 1:09 PM, Chris Burrell wrote: > Hi > > Is there are standard subType pattern that modules are supposed to fo

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS Variants

2013-02-08 Thread DM Smith
I noticed this a few weeks ago. We should change JSword's ThML converter to output OSIS as is used in Byz and WHNU. And the xslt to handle it. When I did the original, there were not any variants in an OSIS text. In Him, DM On Feb 8, 2013, at 1:09 PM, Chris Burrell wrote: > Hi > > Is

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS Variants

2013-02-08 Thread Chris Burrell
I'm not sure this is an issue with the ThML converter. From using mod2imp, we have Mat 1.9: $$$Matthew 1:9 οζιας δε εγεννησεν τον ιωαθαμ ιωαθαμ δε εγεννησεν τον * αχας | αχαζ | 881 {N-PRI} | αχας αχαζ 881 {N-PRI}*δε εγεννησεν τον εζεκιαν Mat 9.4 outputs the seg with tags in them. Mat 1.9 outpu

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS Editor

2013-05-06 Thread Marais, Johan: Absa
Thank you. Please supply a link to the application in order for us to uase/test. Thank you, Johan From: Pola Edward [mailto:5...@hotmail.com] Sent: 02 May 2013 06:40 PM To: sword-devel@crosswire.org Subject: [sword-devel] OSIS Editor Hi, as you know, I've made a very simple .net applic

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS Editor

2013-05-07 Thread Pola Edward
I'll send it to you in a private mail as i can't post attachments to the list From: joha...@absa.co.za To: sword-devel@crosswire.org Date: Mon, 6 May 2013 14:02:42 +0200 Subject: Re: [sword-devel] OSIS Editor Thank you. Please supply a link to the application in order for us to uase/t

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS Editor

2013-08-26 Thread webmedic
@crosswire.org > Date: Mon, 6 May 2013 14:02:42 +0200 > Subject: Re: [sword-devel] OSIS Editor > > Thank you. > > > > Please supply a link to the application in order for us to uase/test. > > > > Thank you, > > > > Johan > > *From:* Pola

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS Editor

2013-08-27 Thread Pola Edward
Check Your Mail .. Thanks for your interest Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 02:04:45 -0700 From: webme...@gmail.com To: sword-devel@crosswire.org Subject: Re: [sword-devel] OSIS Editor Is this available anywhere? On May 7, 2013 6:38 PM, "Pola Edward" <5...@hotmail.com> wrote: I'

[sword-devel] OSIS an formating

2014-02-23 Thread David "Judahs Shadow" Blue
I'm considering taking up working on some formatting of poetry in BibleTime, and was wondering if I was safe in assuming that an tag (should be in an if I'm remembering my tags correctly?) is always a poetry/liturgy line? And are there any OSIS modules out there in the "wild" that have spann

[sword-devel] osis genbook summary

2014-08-28 Thread Laurie Fooks
Thankyou for the opportunity to raise my questions on inconsistencies between front ends in sword. I beleive this was the correct forum for this as a common interpretation of markup is essential for module developers. I will attach a summary table of my findings in a following post. Please contact

[sword-devel] OSIS Verse Key

2014-09-16 Thread Daniel Hughes
I need to retrieve the KeyText in OSIS format (eg 'gal.2.3') though the c# bindings which means through the flat API. Would it be difficult to expose this through the flat api? And if so is there someone with the c/c++ ability who is willing to implement it in exchange for my my appreciation...

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS Glosses?

2014-12-11 Thread David Haslam
I just tried an experiment using diatheke on a module that I'm currently developing. Here is a verse as compiled into the module using imp2vs $$$Numbers 13:1 ​ Et l’Éternel parla à Moïse, en disant: NB. The w element is wrapped around a zero width space, just for the sake of the experiment. Thi

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS Glosses?

2014-12-12 Thread David Haslam
It's definitely the colon where the bug occurs in the gloss text, not the number of characters. As a colon is the delimiter within lemma attributes (eg "strong:nnn" "robinson:xxx"), I guess the code for lemmas was copied more or less unaltered to the code for glosses. In theory, there no reason w

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS Glosses?

2014-12-12 Thread David Haslam
Created http://www.crosswire.org/tracker/browse/API-179 David -- View this message in context: http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.com/OSIS-Glosses-tp4654301p4654304.html Sent from the SWORD Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ sword-devel mail

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS Glosses?

2014-12-12 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
Quick note, Not sure, but I thought we used optional prefixes to specify the kind of gloss if there are multiple, e.g., gloss="en_US:18 wheeler en_UK:articulated lorry" On December 12, 2014 1:21:49 AM MST, David Haslam wrote: >It's definitely the colon where the bug occurs in the gloss text, n

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS Glosses?

2014-12-12 Thread Peter Von Kaehne
Gesendet: Freitag, 12. Dezember 2014 um 13:16 Uhr Von: "Troy A. Griffitts" > Not sure, but I thought we used optional prefixes to specify the kind of > gloss if there are multiple, e.g., > gloss="en_US:18 wheeler > en_UK:articulated lorry"   Should there be an option to escape colons?

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS Glosses?

2014-12-12 Thread DM Smith
> On Dec 12, 2014, at 8:26 AM, Peter Von Kaehne wrote: > > Gesendet: Freitag, 12. Dezember 2014 um 13:16 Uhr > Von: "Troy A. Griffitts" > >> Not sure, but I thought we used optional prefixes to specify the kind of >> gloss if there are multiple, e.g., > gloss="en_US:18 wheeler >> en_UK:artic

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS Glosses?

2014-12-12 Thread Greg Hellings
It should be possible to escape any such characters with an XML entity, no? On Dec 12, 2014 7:44 AM, "DM Smith" wrote: > > > On Dec 12, 2014, at 8:26 AM, Peter Von Kaehne wrote: > > > > Gesendet: Freitag, 12. Dezember 2014 um 13:16 Uhr > > Von: "Troy A. Griffitts" > > > >> Not sure, but I thoug

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS Glosses?

2014-12-12 Thread DM Smith
Best I can recall: Nope. An entity is merely an alternate way of specifying a character. The XML parser is supposed to replace the entity with the corresponding code point before the value is evaluated against the schema. > On Dec 12, 2014, at 8:49 AM, Greg Hellings wrote: > > It should be pos

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS Glosses?

2014-12-12 Thread Greg Hellings
If that's the case, how does it handle escaping <>? I believe entity replacement is after XML validation but before passing them to a transformer or such. On Dec 12, 2014 7:52 AM, "DM Smith" wrote: > Best I can recall: > Nope. An entity is merely an alternate way of specifying a character. The >

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS Glosses?

2014-12-12 Thread Sebastien KOECHLIN
Hello, In fact, an entity can store more than a single character. It can be a string (less common) or a more complex structure (I've never seen it in real usage). See http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-US/en-en/library/ms256483%28v=vs.110%29.aspx for examples. To answer Greg, when you read an XML fi

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS Glosses?

2014-12-12 Thread Greg Hellings
Yes, that was my point. However, Sword does not use standard XML parsing tools that operate this way and thus we might be able to handle an entity and the raw character differently. This would still permitting the file to validate with standard XML tools as well. --Greg On Dec 12, 2014 8:52 AM, "S

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS Glosses?

2014-12-12 Thread DM Smith
There are 4 standard entities that are predefined for XML. (I used to think that it was 5 with both " and ' being defined.) XML allows decimal entities of the form &#ddd;. Any others need to be defined in a DTD. A schema (an xsd in the case of OSIS) does not allow for the defining of entities. (

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS Glosses?

2014-12-12 Thread DM Smith
I’ve used such long, multi-character entities before. It requires a DTD and is defined with in the DOCTYPE statement. I’m not at all sure how to blend a DOCTYPE and a schema. The OSIS schema does not have any. I wish I had read your answer before I replied to Greg with the same. :) Excellent.

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS Glosses?

2014-12-15 Thread David Haslam
Further evidence: Replacing the colon by a full-stop was 100% successful. Also, FYI, PocketSword can toggle Glosses. Is this the only front-end that does? For anyone who has PocketSword, try installing the JapMeiji module from CrossWire Beta. This has OSISGlosses, though the conf file uses the n

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS Glosses?

2015-03-14 Thread Peter von Kaehne
This is now fixed. Peter On Thu, 2014-12-11 at 13:24 -0800, David Haslam wrote: > I just tried an experiment using diatheke on a module that I'm currently > developing. > > Here is a verse as compiled into the module using imp2vs > > $$$Numbers 13:1 > ​ Et l’Éternel parla à Moïse, en disant: >

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS Glosses?

2015-03-14 Thread Peter von Kaehne
On Troy's request I have reverted the changes I made. I have left the bug though closed as it was formulated in a fashion which did not cover what the final discussion was about - support of an escape mechanism, support of multiple glosses. It seems I had not completely understood the drift of th

[sword-devel] OSIS Dictionary modules?

2017-03-10 Thread David Haslam
I understand that the dictionary modules hosted in the IBT repository were made from OSIS XML source text rather than TEI XML source text. Would I be correct in assuming that osis2mod was used to build these modules? Best regards, David -- View this message in context: http://sword-dev.35056

[sword-devel] OSIS and xi:include ?

2023-06-02 Thread David Haslam
This is something for SWORD developers to carefully consider... I wonder if our use of OSIS could be "tweaked" such that the XML could make use of the xi:include element that I've seen used in one TEI project. Here's an example to whet your appetite:

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS Variants ?

2017-10-15 Thread David Haslam
Xiphos already has UI support for OSIS Variants. It works fine for a module with variants. When installed in other apps (such as PocketSword for iOS or And Bible for Android OS), such a module should (in theory at least) display All Readings [as the fall-back default]. NB. Unfortunately, PocketS

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS Variants ?

2017-10-15 Thread DM Smith
Default should be to show only the first variant. Confusing otherwise. — DM Smith > On Oct 15, 2017, at 7:34 AM, David Haslam wrote: > > Xiphos already has UI support for OSIS Variants. It works fine for a module > with variants. > > When installed in other apps (such as PocketSword for iO

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS Variants ?

2017-10-15 Thread David Haslam
I would agree that makes sense for a front-end that has UI support for selecting variants, but otherwise, the user never even gets to see the text for the Secondary Reading. Remaining invisible is much worse than any potential confusion! The problem therefore never gets reported to the app develo

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS Variants ?

2017-10-15 Thread DM Smith
There is no other option for the front-end. The engine (SWORD and JSword) will only show one or the other of two variants. I’m pretty sure JSword doesn’t allow “the other”. To do otherwise means that the engine has to determine another mechanism which the front-end has to choose. Example, show

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS Variants ?

2017-10-15 Thread David Haslam
The problem of "no spaces" when both readings are shown is very easy to solve. Just take proper care when making the module. I documented this ages ago in the wiki page for OSIS Bibles. Rather than having (may|can) you'd have ( may| can) - using simplified notation to illustrate. It can help al

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS Variants ?

2017-10-17 Thread David Haslam
In view of the fact that not all front-end apps currently support Variants, here is a proposal for managing modules that make use of OSISVariants. - A module with Variants to be hosted in the CrossWire Beta repository. - A module without Variants to be hosted in the CrossWire Main repository. T

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS questions

2017-12-30 Thread David Haslam
Tom, Have you visited our wiki yet? https://crosswire.org/wiki David Sent from ProtonMail Mobile On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 22:24, Tom Sullivan wrote: > Y'all: Now that I am able to examine, briefly so far, some "production" OSIS, > both incompleteness and discrepancies in the OSIS documentati

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS questions

2017-12-30 Thread Tom Sullivan
Yes. Tom Sullivan i...@beforgiven.info FAX: 815-301-2835 - Great News! God created you, owns you and gave you commands to obey. You have disobeyed God - as your conscience very well attests to you. God's holiness and justice compel Him to punish you in Hell. Jesus Christ becam

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS questions

2017-12-30 Thread DM Smith
The ESV uses . Osis2mod converts thes to as milestoned. This is one of the transformations I mentioned. the x-preverse is also from Osis2mod. See the wiki for a complete set of transformations that osis2mod does. The OSIS 2.1.1 is the latest manual. We maintain in the wiki a set of bug reports

[sword-devel] OSIS Commentary - versification

2019-09-22 Thread Michael H
So I have a collection of files (based on vulgate and NRSV works) that will become commentaries. The first thing I'd like to address are the differences in the versification, primarily (for the vulgate stuff) so that commentary about Psalm 119 doesn't show up on 118 or 120. The only place I see t

[sword-devel] OSIS milestone markers

2020-03-14 Thread David Haslam
I have observed that the 3 modules in the Lockman repository make use of the following OSIS milestone element. The actual marker character varies between modules and even within a module. I assume that these mark the occurrence of a Continuation Quotation Mark of one form or another in the pr

[sword-devel] OSIS spec/docs

2003-01-08 Thread Chris Little
Okay, the osisCore 1.1.1 Schema, documentation, and list of Bible book names are now posted at http://www.bibletechnologieswg.org/osis/specs/ along with Troy's tutorial so ignore the URLs in my last message. --Chris ___ sword-devel mailing list [EMAI

[sword-devel] OSIS and Step

2003-01-09 Thread David's Mailing List and Spam Receiver
Ok I have a question about this OSIS thing, who all is involved? I mean for example will I be able to purchace a OSIS NKJV for use in sword? Also what direct support for Step does sword have? I was thinking about purchasing a ESV from christianbook.com and it comes with a cdrom that has the ste

[sword-devel] OSIS and Sword

2003-03-05 Thread David Mullens
Hi All, I've been looking into converting some texts into OSIS. However, at this time I believe I read that the Sword software doesn't have the OSIS viewer (or something to that effect). My question is: Is there a list of know OSIS tags that don't work in Sword? So far, I have the conf file se

[sword-devel] OSIS Web Interface

2003-05-31 Thread Dan Adams
In the interface that is being made, is it in plans to develop a way to use it to display scripture from a PHP script? I realize it may be early to ask this, but I still feel it is a valid question. Dan Adams - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.infochi.com _

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS 1.5

2003-06-18 Thread Chris Little
Jimmie Houchin wrote: Subject: re: [sword-devel] 1.5.6 todo Date: May 28, 2003 Troy A. Griffitts wrote: [snip] > After last week's meetings, this and many OSIS documents > are not valid against the coming OSIS 1.5 spec. :) [snip] Any information available on the OSIS 1.5 spec? I would like to wri

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS 1.5

2003-06-19 Thread Jimmie Houchin
Chris Little wrote: Jimmie Houchin wrote: [snip] The page says it will be released at the UBS meeting at the end of June. We're winding down on new issues, so I think release will come soon--in a week or so perhaps. I don't know the status of the manual & best practice docs. Thanks for the info

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS 1.5

2003-06-19 Thread Joachim Ansorg
You can turn binary Sword modules into text using the mod2imp tool. For win32 it should be at ftp.crosswire.org/pub/sword/util/win32/. For Linux it's in the utilities subdirectory of the Source tree. It works for all types of modules, even compressed ones. Joachim > Not trying to be dense, har

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