Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2012-05-21 Thread Timothée Giet
2012/5/13 Yu Chen jco...@gmail.com Hi 1) Regarding encapsulate and group, I have to point out that synfig layer is primitive layer, in other graphics softwares in the world, they are normally defined as objects, take a look at Adobe Illustrator or Inkscape. There is another key point I

Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2012-05-21 Thread Zelgadis
Hi! That's me again. ^__^ 2012/5/13 Yu Chen jco...@gmail.com: Hi 1) Regarding encapsulate and group, I have to point out that synfig layer is primitive layer, in other graphics softwares in the world, they are normally defined as objects, take a look at Adobe Illustrator or Inkscape. There

Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2012-05-21 Thread David Rylander
2012-05-21 15:09, Zelgadis skrev: I understand, that Encapsulated layer in synfig is not the same as group in other software. BUT, I still insist on renaming to Group and I have a reason for that. Let me share with you my experience of teaching Synfig to kids (age of 14 - 17 years old). I

Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2012-05-21 Thread Zelgadis
2012/5/21 David Rylander rylle...@gmail.com: 2012-05-21 15:09, Zelgadis skrev: I understand, that Encapsulated layer in synfig is not the same as group in other software. BUT, I still insist  on renaming to Group and I have a reason for that. Let me share with you my experience of teaching

Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2012-05-21 Thread Timothée Giet
Actually I change my mind too, I do agree with Konstantin. Also I don't know in other (proprietary) softwares, but at least in Krita, layer groups act exactly the same (meaning a filter layer has effect only on layers below in the group, same for alpha lock etc… ) so it is consistent to call them

Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2012-05-21 Thread Zelgadis
2012/5/21 Timothée Giet anim...@gmail.com: -Bline: Spline (but I agree that Bline did the job, just it's not a real word (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B_Line) ) With Spline we fall into the same situation as with Encapsulate thing - If user have no knowledge of high-mathematics, then Spline

Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2012-05-21 Thread Timothée Giet
2012/5/21 Zelgadis ksee.zelga...@gmail.com 2012/5/21 Timothée Giet anim...@gmail.com: -Bline: Spline (but I agree that Bline did the job, just it's not a real word (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B_Line) ) With Spline we fall into the same situation as with Encapsulate thing - If user have

Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2012-05-21 Thread Yu Chen
2012/5/21 Timothée Giet anim...@gmail.com Actually I change my mind too, I do agree with Konstantin. Also I don't know in other (proprietary) softwares, but at least in Krita, layer groups act exactly the same (meaning a filter layer has effect only on layers below in the group, same for

Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2012-05-21 Thread Timothée Giet
Interesting research Yu, but I still think that whe should rename encapsulate to group. Here's my point: -Layers are meant to organize the visual ordering of the composition (which object is above or below the other…compositing) (Ok, compared to other softwares, our layers here are limited to 1

[Synfig-devl] [ synfig-Bugs-3528713 ] crashing on Mac

2012-05-21 Thread SourceForge . net
Bugs item #3528713, was opened at 2012-05-21 17:16 Message generated for change (Tracker Item Submitted) made by nobody You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailatid=757416aid=3528713group_id=144022 Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the

[Synfig-devl] [ synfig-Bugs-3528713 ] crashing on Mac

2012-05-21 Thread SourceForge . net
Bugs item #3528713, was opened at 2012-05-21 17:16 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by jcome You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailatid=757416aid=3528713group_id=144022 Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment

Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2012-05-21 Thread Nikita Kitaev
I like the suggestions here. From the current list, I agree with: Cpoint - Color Stop Encapsulate - Group Groups - Sets Control points seems too long for such a common term: especially in phrases like tangent control point. Shortening it to controls or just points may not work (controls is