On Mon, 23 Oct 2000 22:36:39 -0700 (PDT), you wrote:
>--- "Michael J. Roth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Someone might want to start a missing persons report on the illustrious
>> E. Garry Hill of T&FN fame. We have not been graced by his presence
>> much, if at all, since Sydney.
>>
>> 2. He
--- "Michael J. Roth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Someone might want to start a missing persons report on the illustrious
> E. Garry Hill of T&FN fame. We have not been graced by his presence
> much, if at all, since Sydney.
>
> 2. He was attacked and mauled by a rapid Koala in the Outback.
R
5th Ljubljana Marathon
Ljubljana, SLO; Sunday, October 22 2000
URL: http://www.slo-timing.com/maraton/
Distance: 42.195 km
5th edition of Slovenia's biggest recreational running event - Ljubljana
Marathon was a great success again. New course record in men's category,
more than 2000 finishers in
While politics do play a role in selection for staff for worlds, olys, world
jrs, etc. the staff reallly is not *at all* to blame. everyone knew before
(due to the date of the world jrs) that the US team wasn't going to do very
well. i wouldn't blame the hs or college coaches either. there aren
Unfortunately, the new AR had to share headline space
in the L.A. Times, and probably other newspapers, with
the death of an unfortunate 50-ish runner in the Marine
Corps Marathon, who evidently collapsed just two minutes
into the race.
Condolences to the family, certainly, but for the
sport it's
Hey tracksters,
If you go to http://health.yahoo.com/ and click on the PINK RIBBON,
Yahoo will donate $1.00 to the Susan G. Komen Breast Cancer Foundation.
Spread the word.
-Mike Fanelli
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
4. New career in acting. I think he's the guy being thrown through the
doors of the saloon by a woman ("no" auf Australian) in that Foster's ad
that's been running lately.
wb
At 11:48 PM 10/23/00 -0400, Michael J. Roth wrote:
>Someone might want to start a missing persons report on the illust
Week #7 of the NCAA Division II Cross-Country rankings (October 15-21) are now
posted at http://d2rankings.homestead.com
Hopefully without errors this time! :)
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Someone might want to start a missing persons report on the illustrious
E. Garry Hill of T&FN fame. We have not been graced by his presence
much, if at all, since Sydney.
Three theories come to mind:
1. Rather than put a race walker on the cover as Male AOY, he went
walkabout with Crocodile Du
How's this for a (true) John Walker story?
In about 1973, we hosted a Meet in Victoria, B.C., Canada. This Meet
was the wrap-up for a series of Meets across Canada which occurred after
the Pacific Conference Games, and included teams from Japan, Australia,
New Zealand, Canada, and the Unite
In a message dated 10/23/00 7:13:20 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Every international competition usually has a
>staff totally new to the event and some have no idea as to the quality
>of the competition our kids will face. . But they
>can, and should, do all they can to make sure the team
Please remove my email address from the list .
Thank you.
> Without a strong Junior program, and the US lacks one, there is not too
much in the way of a feeder
> system. Many US colleges recruit vigourously outside the US and these US
> trained athletes come back to haunt us at Olympic and World championships.
> They also deny many good kids a scholars
While I was a huge fan of the long haired, barrel chested miler and his
always ballsy racing style, I am forever indebted to him for the shoe named
after him...the Brooks John Walker RT1...it totally chewed the hell out of
my feet but carried me to a then (1979) breakthrough marathon performance o
Actually, yes I did disagree with Marion. But remember she was not allowed
to go by her mother because of a breach of personal contract. I thought at
that time she should have gone to the Games and competed, of for no other
reason than the opportunity may not come around again. And it almos
<<>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] replies:
>>>
Hmmm. I think the list supervisor needs to be contacted. This must be a
violation.
Steve S.
Okay, now that everyone outside and inside the USA borders has had their turn
at "beating a dead horse", I still say that most of you are missing the
point. There is nothing on the horizon that will replace the 100 years old US
public high school system of athletic competition. Yeah, a strong c
A day after winning the Chicago Marathon, Khalid Khannouchi confirmed he
will run in next spring's London Marathon. The Moroccan, granted United
States citizenship five months ago, set a United States marathon record in
Chicago of 2hr 7min 1sec.
Eamonn Condon
WWW.RunnersGoal.com
1. Kevin Young 46.48! The culmination of ten years of blood, sweat, and
tears. The whole race was a thing of beauty, his easy strides, and confident
demeanor were fulfilling. And it was something that was never done before.
2. Michael Johnson 19.32
No words will ever describe those 19 second
ANd what sour grapes would I have? My athlete ran 44.66, the second fastest
time by a junior ever. I have no sour grapes to mash.
And I expect all you saw was him kiss the track. Of course, you missed the
looking back, the yelling at the crowd, the "look at me" theatrics that many
on this li
Funny how Ndereba, Khannouchi, Tanui, et all can all race high quality
spring marathons then come back and race fast in the fall. I'm as pleased
as anyone to see our men and women run well in Chicago. But, let's not
make excuses for their times. Let's continue to urge them to run faster
and
Bruce and Hugh,
I too gathered incredible motivation from John Walker and other Kiwis
distance runners of the late 70s/early 80s (Rod Dixon, Dick Quax,
etc.). In HS, a couple of teammates and I used to wear New Zealand
shorts, the black ones as well as the flag shorts. We thought they were
so c
In a message dated Mon, 23 Oct 2000 5:52:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Bruce
Goodchild <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
<<
Probably my greatest memory of John Walker was the
summer of '75, when I was touring around southern
England on my bicycle, sitting in a coffee shop
in London, opening up the Ti
In a message dated 10/23/00 5:24:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< Sorry, but I'd rank Olympics #2, and NCAA D1 X-C/THE GROTE POLL far above
and beyond all else at #1.
Grote
adiRP >>
Who's Grote?
In a message dated 10/23/00 7:40:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< Geez - US students have it hard..
The Australian team did pretty well in Santiago with many PBs as well as the
7th placing on the medal table. That's despite our domestic track season
ending six mont
In a message dated 10/23/00 4:34:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< In order of importance and attention to this US residing fan:
1. Olympics/World Champs
2. IAAF Season
tie 3. College Season
tie 3. US Open Season
5. US High School Season
Juniors is so far down t
Another problem for the US is the number of junior level "championships". There's
the USATF Junior Championship, National Scholastic Championship, AAU
Championship, USATF Youth Championship, and a High School National Championship
(i think). Throw in a few other high profile youth meets like Golde
In a message dated 10/22/00 11:27:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
<< Mats Åkerlind has led a mini thread that began with his comment,
>Well into the World Juniors in Santiago, the US showing is so far not
>very impressive. It's not a normal US showing and even here in
In a message dated 10/23/00 3:38:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
<< Oh how the vultures come to the carcass. Where were you when the kill was
alive?
The juniors are of very little importance in the US, with very little
attention and emphasis put on them. Every yea
Geez - US students have it hard..
The Australian team did pretty well in Santiago with many PBs as well as the
7th placing on the medal table. That's despite our domestic track season
ending six months ago (with the next season just about to start).
Double gold medallist Jana Pittman and many
In a message dated 00-10-22 11:41:01 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< Netters:
Re the James Carter incident in Sydney, I caught up yesterday with
his namesake, who was quite a 400M runner at manhattan 25 years ago and has
been coaching at Newark's Weequahic HS for some years now.
In a message dated 10/22/00 9:24:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< Netters:
As a university teacher I'd like to point out that the worst thing that an
American freshman can do
is take off a week or 2 in their first semester. Track and field ahletes in
general are
Darrell
Do you think that Marion Jones was also wrong to skip the Olympics when she
was a teenager?
Ed Prytherch
-Original Message-
...
>Mark Lewis-Francis should have been in Sydney, period! He opted out of
>Sydney so he could go to Lesser competition, dominate, and "clown" with
his
>fr
In a message dated 10/22/00 6:00:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
<< How many elite junior athletes can take time off from school and train at
a
level to be competitive on the worldwide stage this time of year? Let's
keep
things in perspective. I would imagine most
DGS wrote
> Mark Lewis-Francis should have been in Sydney, period! He opted out of
> Sydney so he could go to Lesser competition, dominate, and "clown" with
his
> friends. How come I have heard no mention of his antics? Were any of teh
> Brits embarassed by his bravado as he crossed the line i
I've watched the thread regarding favorite articles on track and field ..
Given that the Olympics are just past what about favorite races in the
Olympics ?? My 3 favorites:
1. Bert Cameron's semifinal in the 1984 400 .. Cameron pulls a muscle about
150 meters into the race .. Comes to a stop .. T
Darrell wrote:
> Oh how the vultures come to the carcass. Where were you when the kill was
> alive?
> The juniors are of very little importance in the US, with very little
> attention and emphasis put on them. Every year the team is made by
choice.
> Many of the top juniors see the Junior's as
Probably my greatest memory of John Walker was the
summer of '75, when I was touring around southern
England on my bicycle, sitting in a coffee shop
in London, opening up the Times of London, and
seeing that great picture of Walker crossing the
finish line, the first man under 3:49, his
blonde ha
- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Mark Lewis-Francis should have been in Sydney, period! He opted out of
> Sydney so he could go to Lesser competition, dominate, and "clown" with
his
> friends. How come I have heard no mention of his antics? Were any of teh
> Brits emb
Sorry, but I'd rank Olympics #2, and NCAA D1 X-C/THE GROTE POLL far above
and beyond all else at #1.
Grote
adiRP
- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 4:16 PM
Subject: Re: t-and-f: Re: Embarassment
> In order of importance
In order of importance and attention to this US residing fan:
1. Olympics/World Champs
2. IAAF Season
tie 3. College Season
tie 3. US Open Season
5. US High School Season
Juniors is so far down this person's radar that if it hadn't been brought up
on this list I wouldn't have known it was happe
I received a request from a 4th Science (maths) student at N.U.I.G.
(National University of Ireland in Galway) that is currently preparing
for her final year project. She has selected Sonia O'Sullivan as her
project topic - to compare her 2000m world record to Wang Junxia's 3000m
world record. Unf
>Who will go down in history as the better? What a shame Olympic gold
>eluded
>them both, the lack of which will keep either from being recognized as the
>greatest miler of all.
Well, it's a little soon to say that a gold medal has eluded, or will elude,
El G altogether. He is young enough to
Oh how the vultures come to the carcass. Where were you when the kill was
alive?
The juniors are of very little importance in the US, with very little
attention and emphasis put on them. Every year the team is made by choice.
Many of the top juniors see the Junior's as a second tier meet.
Excellent reply! They do not get it. I was there, I understand perfectly.
My athlete has no concern for school, all we had to do was train for the
meet. He no concern for fall training, or the first 3-4 weeks of his
education. He will go home and start school when he gets back. US kids do
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2000 7:21 PM
Subject: Re: t-and-f: chicago marathon
Yes, it was a good day in general for the Americans, and there were some
notable crash-and-burns among the foreigners. Americans ran more
Track Listers and RRW Subscribers,
The year 2000 marathon lists have been updated at
http://www.raceresultsweekly.com for the Chicago, München, Reims, Venice,
and Washington (Marine Corps) marathons; other marathons contested over the
weekend did not affect these lists.
. Top 100 World
. All U.S
In a message dated Sun, 22 Oct 2000 6:32:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< Boston Mayor's Cup Cross Country
October 22, 2000
Franklin Park Boston MA
MEN
1, Francis Kirwa, Life University,, 23:26 (collegian - no $)
2, Paul Mwangi ($300) Westchester TC/Ken, 23:28
3, Alex
as far as I remember, Khalid ran for Morocco in the early 90s and was one
of their developmental 5k/10k runners. he was roommates with ElG
even. He went to the US for University Games and after that (and being
dissed by the federation for not being able to run in some elite race,
right?) he dec
See article IOC Strips Wrestler of Gold Medal
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20001023/sp/oly_wrestling_leipold_5.html
Tony Craddock
- Original Message -
From: Justin Clouder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Possibly. However, while my breathless enthusiasm may have implied
> otherwise, we are a very long way from that based on what I saw on TV. The
> prosthetic leg has no electronics, no feedback or other assistance. It
very
>
Paul wrote:
> A real question that should be asked is what will the track world do when
> technology is such that these athletes are running faster than their
> physically able counterparts? Can/will the IAAF ban disabled athletes
> from participation in regular athletics events?
>
Possibly.
- Original Message -
From: David Lesley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Netters:
>
> As a university teacher I'd like to point out that the worst thing that an
> American freshman can do
> is take off a week or 2 in their first semester. Track and field ahletes
in
> general are pretty serious stu
A real question that should be asked is what will the track world do when
technology is such that these athletes are running faster than their
physically able counterparts? Can/will the IAAF ban disabled athletes
from participation in regular athletics events?
Paul
On Mon, 23 Oct 2000, Justin
On 23 Oct 2000, Jay Ulfelder wrote:
> Yes, I know Khannouchi
> is an American, but because the focus here is on the sport's
> development in the U.S., I'm looking only at "home-grown" runners.
Isn't Khannouchi "home grown?" I thought he didn't start running until
after he had emigrated to the Un
Track Listers,
Perhaps Dr. Rosa knows something after all? Three U.S. athletes who
accepted positions in Fila's Discovery USA training camp in Mt. Laguna
--Josh Cox, Christine Junkermann and Janelle Olsen-- enjoyed breakthrough
performances at the LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon yesterday. Using
Video footage of the Mayor's Cup XC races is now up at
http://TrackMeets.com
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Dimitry Markov, pole vault, Belarus - 6.00m & Australia - 5.95m. The
Belarussian record is actually the Oceania "continential" all-comers record
since it was set in New Zealand.
Radion Gataullin, pole vault, held national records for Uzbekistan (5.90m),
Soviet Union (indoor record - 6.00m), & Ru
RRW Subscribers and Track Listers,
The prolific U.S. masters marathoner, Mary Burns-Prine, has founded a new
website focusing on women's running. You can access it at:
http://www.womenrunners.com
That is all.
David Monti, Editor and Publisher, Race Results Weekly
Sponsored by:
F I L
Track Listers and RRW Subscribers,
I wrote the following article on Jon Brown for the SUNDAY TIMES OF LONDON on
30-Aug just before leaving for Sydney. Brown finished fourth in the Olympic
Marathon, missing a medal by only seven seconds. You might enjoy learning
about his preparations for that r
It was noted in USA Today among other places that Khannouchi now holds both
the Moroccan and American marathon national records (in fact, even more
significant, continental records for Africa and North America).
For the marathon, this might be unprecedented, but how often has anyone held
more tha
Oops! I overlooked David Morris' solid 2:12 (ahead of Mack and Cox) in my comments.
Still, I don't think it contradicts the larger point I was trying to make, especially
since Morris has shown he's capable of much faster.
- Jay
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The following article was written by David Honea for this week's issue of
X-Country X-Press, but I thought list members should see it.
Walt Murphy(Publisher X-X)
Peter Tegen
by David Honea for X-Country X-Press
A few years ago a major question about women's cross country came before the
execu
On Sun, 22 October 2000, Tony Banovich wrote:
> But, the times, men or women, don't really bode that well for the
> argument that the trials should be held on a "flat, fast" course like
> Chicago. Hell, still only a couple more people made it under the "A" standard.
I don't think this year's
Hi All
I saw this performance in the highlights show the BBC is broadcasting each
day. I was absolutely awestruck.
For those who, like me, are unaware of advances in medical science, these
guys and women are amputees and run using a prosthetic limb which is hard to
describe but is a flat, curv
Rob Evans, University of Florida's lone Men's NCAA xc qualifier last season
is participating the Paralympic games in Sydney Australia. He will also be
missing the SEC meet due to his participation. Yesterday he broke the World
Record for his group in the 1500. Go to:
http://www.coachnet.net/Rob
Cathy Freeman may have stopped the Nation on the night she ran for Gold but
a Pole Vaulter unknown to the general public has now become a household name
in Australia.
- Tatiana Grigorieva.
More info in the main story at www.oztrack.com
regards
Steve Bennett
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