RE: t-and-f: RE: Bria Wetsch (was Run to the Top [top of what?])

2002-08-21 Thread John Dye
The irony of this debate is that last year everyone was criticizing the dad for over-racing Bria and pushing her too much, too soon. John Dye [EMAIL PROTECTED] DyeStat - the Internet home of high school track www.dyestat.com >>-Original Message- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>[mailto:[

t-and-f: Throwers' Classic

2002-08-21 Thread Jim Fischer
This is a REVISED schedule (as of 8/21/02) for the Throwers' Classic on September 28 at the University of Delaware. * 1st Annual Delaware Fall Throwers Classic University of Delaware September 28, 2002 (Sancti

t-and-f: The European Athletic Association on Israel

2002-08-21 Thread Wilmar Kortleever
LS No doudt inspired by questions as were on this list, the EAA issued a statement august 14 about the participation of Israeli athletes in the European Championships (and European cups, etcetera). I include that message below, Regards, Wilmar Kortleever European Athletic News Following message

t-and-f: re: run to the top

2002-08-21 Thread ALLEN GILMAN
Bria runs in Minnesota. Our season begins August 12 with a first meet no sooner than two weeks later. We run 4000 meters for girls. The state league rules allow about ten meets before the champioinship series which is a Sectional Meet and the State Meet. That is about one race per week. S

Re: t-and-f: Run to the Top

2002-08-21 Thread Geoff Pietsch
Does anyone know how many races this girl's team - well, ex-team - is scheduled to run? And how many are tough competition? No one so far has noted the fact that if she is truly outstanding, then the ordinary high school dual meet is NOT a race for her, it's just a good short tempo run. He

Re: t-and-f: Run to the Top

2002-08-21 Thread kurt decker
Hello, Well as a runner from MN that has seen what has been going on with Bria I will put in my 2 cents. To start I think Bria is a great running talent, But I think the BIG problem is her dad. To give some background 3 summers ago she was racing road races every weekend sometimes 2 races in

t-and-f: Re: Run to the Top

2002-08-21 Thread ALLEN GILMAN
This is a tongue in cheek response to the Bria Wetsch article: Mark Abraham wrote: > >In light of the Bria Wetsch article in today's Minneapolis paper, La >Crescent High School Cross Country Coach Mark Abraham announced today that >he will only be coaching a select number of meets on the Lancer

t-and-f: Bislett Games founder Arne Haukvik dead

2002-08-21 Thread Stella Cashman
Bislett Games founder Arne Haukvik dead .c The Associated Press OSLO, Norway (AP) - Arne Haukvik, the founder of track and field's Bislett Games, died Wednesday of cancer at age 76. Haukvik died at a hospital in Oslo, according to the Norwegian news agency NTB. Haukvik was the meet director o

RE: t-and-f: CU Head Coach Mark Wetmore Interview

2002-08-21 Thread DLTFNedit
Malmö-I don't deny that there is a drug problem within our sport. But I also think that our sport, more than any other, tests and catches cheaters. Should we try to make the tests better? Of course. I hope they develop tests for HGH and EPO that can detect usage farther back than just a few day

RE: t-and-f: Israeli results

2002-08-21 Thread Bloomquist, Bret
Regarding Israeli athletes, I trust this will outrage everyone as much as me. It's from the current issue of Sports Illustrated (won't hit newsstands until Thursday): http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/si_online/news/2002/08/20/main/ > -Original Message- > From: P.F.Talbot [SMTP:[EMAIL PRO

RE: t-and-f: CU Head Coach Mark Wetmore Interview

2002-08-21 Thread Lee Nichols
> >Enough drug talk! There are some great meets coming up. Marion >versus ZPB. A great 10K in Brussels. Kajsa's amazing season. Etc. >Let's enjoy it and discuss it without tainting every performance. > Here, here! (Or is it "hear, hear"?) I wish all the media had that attitude. My hometown dail

RE: t-and-f: CU Head Coach Mark Wetmore Interview

2002-08-21 Thread malmo
Much of what you say is true. Consider this: just the threat of an EPO test in 2000 killed August and September performances in Europe as well as in Sydney. I, too, believe sub 3:30, 8:00, 13:00, and 27:00 performances are possible clean. Still, I would like to see a 12:45 or a 26:45 run where t

RE: t-and-f: CU Head Coach Mark Wetmore Interview

2002-08-21 Thread Chapman, Robert
A usually coherent Dan Lilot (aka Sideshow) wrote (my askeriks added): <> and he also keyed (again my asteriks added): <> Now, Mark can defend himself (although he would never choose to), but let's looks at what he actually said in the interview - RQ: The American distance

Re: t-and-f: CU Head Coach Mark Wetmore Interview

2002-08-21 Thread Bob Ramsak
malmo wrote: "On the other hand if, even for one moment, you think that they are catching any more than 10 percent of the users, then I've got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell to you - easy financing." On what exactly do you base that assumption?

RE: t-and-f: CU Head Coach Mark Wetmore Interview

2002-08-21 Thread malmo
Experience, Pollyanna. -Original Message- From: Bob Ramsak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 7:26 PM To: malmo; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: CU Head Coach Mark Wetmore Interview malmo wrote: "On the other hand if, even for one mo

RE: t-and-f: CU Head Coach Mark Wetmore Interview

2002-08-21 Thread malmo
In Austin they do have that attitude that you embrace. As long as Longhorn football players don't kill anyone, they have a long leash. Come to think of it, high school players in Texas get the same Hear-no-evil deference. When being entertained, I prefer seeing the real thing. I have a problem w

RE: t-and-f: CU Head Coach Mark Wetmore Interview

2002-08-21 Thread Shawn Devereaux
Anyone who thinks IAAF and USATF wants a truly clean sport is crazy. Stars are what sell the sport (not just track but all sports) to the casual fan. Even the playing field and there are fewer stars to sell and those that are left don't shine quite as bright as before. That's a decent enough reaso

Re: t-and-f: CU Head Coach Mark Wetmore Interview

2002-08-21 Thread Bob Ramsak
Oh, gee. I guess that settles it then. - Original Message - From: "malmo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Bob Ramsak'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 7:26 PM Subject: RE: t-and-f: CU Head Coach Mark Wetmore Interview > Experienc

Re: t-and-f: Pole Vault Rules Changes

2002-08-21 Thread John Rhodes
Of all the suggested changes I like the coaching clinics and providing the coaches an area to coach from the best. You need to teach coaches about safety and then allow them to coach during the event. Rules about pole size and pole grip are no good at all because every athlete is different plus

t-and-f: Run to The Top

2002-08-21 Thread Louis LeBlanc
Listers……At first I wasn’t sure I was happy that someone posted the Star Tribune article about Bria here, but after reading everyone’s thoughtful and insightful comments, I am glad it was. I have been a fellow list member for 8 years now and enjoy reading what everyone has to say. Needless to sa

t-and-f: 8th grader not running HS

2002-08-21 Thread Ed Grant
Netters: Re the decision of the parents of the mid-Western 8th grader not to have her run for her hS team, we have a similar situation here in NJ which has been resolved differently, sort of a compromise Ken Croghan of Nutley finished two places ahead of Brianna in the 2M at the

Re: t-and-f: Pole Vault Rules Changes

2002-08-21 Thread Trey Jackson
About 9 years ago, while serving as an assistant coach at a local state university, I contacted every college and university in the state that sponsored track and field and addressed this same issue. I suggested that each school should take the opportunity to establish some sort of coaching educa

Re: t-and-f: CU Head Coach Mark Wetmore Interview

2002-08-21 Thread Bob Ramsak
I wasn't on a turnip truck -- was out getting a plate of shrimp. I'm not necessarily doubting you or your "experience," but until you and others who make such sweeping generalizations use more than one-liners to defend your assumptions, well, then it really is nothing more than the "idle speculat

Re: t-and-f: CU Head Coach Mark Wetmore Interview

2002-08-21 Thread Dan Kaplan
http://www.mail-archive.com/t-and-f@lists.uoregon.edu/msg04263.html Dan --- Bob Ramsak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I wasn't on a turnip truck -- was out getting a plate of shrimp. > > I'm not necessarily doubting you or your "experience," but until you and > others who make such sweeping gener

Re: t-and-f: Pole Vault Rules Changes

2002-08-21 Thread koala
Send the notice to the HS athletic directors, and tell them if an accident happens in the pole vault, and the family sues the school district, and it's shown that training opportunities were made available to coaches, which those coaches chose to "pass on", then the floodgates are wide open liabil