On 09-Oct-17 11:16 PM, Andy Townsend wrote:
On 09/10/2017 12:47, Christoph Hormann wrote:
Keep in mind that the mental image of an 'airport', 'aerodrome'
or 'runway' or whatever translation the description of this tag is in
your local language differs a lot from mapper to mapper. So the only
On 10-Oct-17 02:24 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
If the same runway-like feature needs
to be tagged differently depending on if it is located within an
airport of not (by whatever definition of airport) that is not a very
good idea for tagging.
I didn't write this
On 10-Oct-17 04:13 AM, Kevin Kenny wrote:
On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 12:09 PM, Max wrote:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=13/42.4014/-76.5581
in this area there are 7 runways. Two are called "field" three "Airport" and
one even is called "International Airport" none
On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 12:09 PM, Max wrote:
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=13/42.4014/-76.5581
>
> in this area there are 7 runways. Two are called "field" three "Airport" and
> one even is called "International Airport" none of them is paved.
Once again, it's a
On 2017년 10월 09일 09:38, Andrew Davidson wrote:
I think we may be drifting away from Warin's original question.
If you look at the LINZ meta-data:
http://apps.linz.govt.nz/topo-data-dictionary/index.aspx?page=class-runway_poly
their definition of what an airstrip is:
"an area that consists
Likewise happen in hundreds of airstrips in Latin America, that are out of the
ICAO definition of Airport and more into the Airstrip.
By definition these airstrip are Not controlled neither approved by the
Aeronautical Authorities but some of them are depicted in the Aeronautical
Visual Charts
I'm in favor of airstrips, but I would make airstrip a subcategory of
runway. So tagging an airstrip as runway is not wrong if you don't know any
better.
Anyway, is there a way to know if a runway is an airstrip from aerial
photos? Is grass surface enough to make something an airstrip? Does this
>
> If the same runway-like feature needs
> to be tagged differently depending on if it is located within an
> airport of not (by whatever definition of airport) that is not a very
> good idea for tagging.
>
I didn't write this definition, but to me it seems to be intended as a
shortcut to say:
Just to add some observations about Alaska to this conversation. Alaska has
hundreds of long strips whose surface is gravel or grass long ago cleared
of woods and brush that served as landing strips for small airplanes. The
small airplane is almost as common in rural Alaska as automobiles are in
On Monday 09 October 2017, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
>
> I am not aware that OSM in any way defines what an “aircraft” is.
>
> Why is “aircraft” objective and verifiable, but “airport” is not?
Now discussion is drifting into the ridiculous.
Depending on your perspective it can obviously be
On 09/10/2017 12:47, Christoph Hormann wrote:
Keep in mind that the mental image of an 'airport', 'aerodrome'
or 'runway' or whatever translation the description of this tag is in
your local language differs a lot from mapper to mapper. So the only
really meaningful definition is something
sent from a phone
> On 9. Oct 2017, at 13:47, Christoph Hormann wrote:
>
> I am not aware that OSM in any way defines what an airport is. It is
> likely that whatever line you draw between an airport and a non-airport
> is not practically verifiable in many cases.
>
>
On Monday 09 October 2017, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
>
> Yes, I had noticed this reference to "practial use", but wasn't
> convinced at first glance. Can you explain how you decide between
> something mapped that isn't and never has been consistent with our
> longstanding tag definition in the
2017-10-09 12:43 GMT+02:00 Christoph Hormann :
> On Monday 09 October 2017, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> >
> > The wiki says (undisputed and since version1 in 1/2008): "A runway is
> > a strip of land on an airport, on which aircraft can take off and
> > land.". Under this
On Monday 09 October 2017, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
>
> The wiki says (undisputed and since version1 in 1/2008): "A runway is
> a strip of land on an airport, on which aircraft can take off and
> land.". Under this definition, you could at most map those airstrips
> as runways that are _on an
2017-10-09 10:54 GMT+02:00 Christoph Hormann :
> >
> > 'airstrip' and 'runway' are terms of art in Aviation.
> > The distinction is important.
>
> Since this still seems to be a widespread misconception: The meaning of
> the words used for key and value in English language does
On Monday 09 October 2017, Bill Ricker wrote:
> > I see no reason why these cannot be retagged as 'runway'.
>
> NO NO NO
>
> 'airstrip' and 'runway' are terms of art in Aviation.
> The distinction is important.
Since this still seems to be a widespread misconception: The meaning of
the words
I think we may be drifting away from Warin's original question.
If you look at the LINZ meta-data:
http://apps.linz.govt.nz/topo-data-dictionary/index.aspx?page=class-runway_poly
their definition of what an airstrip is:
"an area that consists only of a grass (sometimes limestone) runway in a
I know there are some airstrips in SEQ that are privately owned & no-one is
allowed to land without permission - should they be mapped as possible
emergency strips?
There are also charter planes that operate of the beach at Fraser Island -
should that stretch of beach also be shown as a 'strip?
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