Re: [Tagging] Slash, space, or spaced hyphen in multi-lingual names

2018-08-09 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 10. Aug 2018, at 00:42, Daniel McCormick wrote: > > While the default renderer favors name=* over name:nl or name:fr that is not > the case for other renderers. We as contributors might think that is the most > prominent way to view the data but not all renderers are t

Re: [Tagging] Slash, space, or spaced hyphen in multi-lingual names

2018-08-09 Thread Daniel McCormick
I have to agree with Marc on the position of rendering. It would appear to me that the use of separators in the name=* field comes from a desire to have the default map renderer on opentstreetmap.org show both names. This is mapping to the renderer. The best way to v

Re: [Tagging] Slash, space, or spaced hyphen in multi-lingual names

2018-08-09 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On 9 August 2018 at 18:03, Colin Smale wrote: > Random example: > https://www.google.com/maps/@50.826443,4.2963849,3a,15y, > 217.26h,94.11t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sY2SqOf8gphVOZYqsHOKlXA! > 2e0!7i13312!8i6656 > Interesting, because I notice that Google (the fount of all knowledge where it comes to o

Re: [Tagging] Missing access value (access=license / authorization?)

2018-08-09 Thread Szem
I've done it. I've translated all the main paraghraphs into Hungarian and sent the links of proposal page and others to openstreetmap-hungary list. I hope more mappers are going to use the access=permit tag. 2018.08.07. 22:57 keltezéssel, Martin Koppenhoefer írta: sent from a phone On 7. Au

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Evacuation Routes

2018-08-09 Thread Eric H. Christensen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 I'm opening up my Evacuation Routes proposal[0] for voting. I think we've had two good sessions of discussions for ironing out the bugs and it's time to get this thing out the door! [0] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Evacuat

Re: [Tagging] Slash, space, or spaced hyphen in multi-lingual names

2018-08-09 Thread Marc Gemis
] > > p.s. It is not the first time this question pops up. > > That can be a sign that something is amiss. the previous times it popped up was not for consistency reasons, but to do something on carto-css for osm.org We do have multiple local tile sets for Belgium, where we do not have that proble

Re: [Tagging] Points instead of areas

2018-08-09 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 09.08.2018 o 08:40, Christoph Hormann pisze: > No, as i have written and explained this is fundamentally wrong. But it > is a nice summary of the base dogma of the "everything is a polygon" > fraction in OSM. To be honest, the world is 4D, not just 2D, but OSM is not well-suited to reflec

Re: [Tagging] Slash, space, or spaced hyphen in multi-lingual names

2018-08-09 Thread Paul Allen
On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 11:38 AM, Andy Mabbett wrote: Signs can use different fonts, text size, colours and "line breaks" to > indicate meaning which cannot be captured in a single line of plain > text. A one-minute walk from me is this sign: Heol Napier Napier Street It's possible to indicate

Re: [Tagging] Slash, space, or spaced hyphen in multi-lingual names

2018-08-09 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 9 August 2018 at 09:21, Marc Gemis wrote: >> Also many bilingual street signs in Belgium exploit grammatical >> differences between French and Dutch; where the significant part >> is a proper name (X), in French it might be "Rue X", in Dutch it is >> "Xstraat", so the sign says Rue X-straat.

Re: [Tagging] Slash, space, or spaced hyphen in multi-lingual names

2018-08-09 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 9 August 2018 at 06:17, Marc Gemis wrote: > Can you please elaborate a bit on the reason for your question ? To reduce the cognitive load on mappers. > Is it because you want a map with a uniform syntax for multiple names ? No. > I assume it is not because humans do not understand the mea

Re: [Tagging] Slash, space, or spaced hyphen in multi-lingual names

2018-08-09 Thread Marc Gemis
On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 10:09 AM Colin Smale wrote: > > On 2018-08-09 08:45, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > sent from a phone > > On 9. Aug 2018, at 07:17, Marc Gemis wrote: > > The name field is just a label. If you want to know the exact name in > a certain language you look at the name:xx field

Re: [Tagging] Slash, space, or spaced hyphen in multi-lingual names

2018-08-09 Thread Marc Gemis
The OP wrote "Greater consistency would surely be advantageous?" That is why I asked to elaborate a bit on "why / to whom". he never mentioned "the question is about the “name in the local language”." That was the main topic of the previous discussion on the combined names. m. On Thu, Aug 9, 20

Re: [Tagging] Slash, space, or spaced hyphen in multi-lingual names

2018-08-09 Thread Colin Smale
On 2018-08-09 08:45, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > sent from a phone > >> On 9. Aug 2018, at 07:17, Marc Gemis wrote: >> >> The name field is just a label. If you want to know the exact name in >> a certain language you look at the name:xx field. > > the question is about the "name in the local