Re: [Tagging] map of international institutions, such as EU institutions in Brussels

> use for e.g. institutions belonging to the EU the tag country=EU That sounds reasonable. I'd mention that if the features are mapped as nodes inside of buildings, database users can still use this information to add the tags to the building outline before rendering a map, so it's not necessary

Re: [Tagging] Populated settlement classification

On 08/09/19 01:24, Iago Casabiell wrote: Well, as there is no clear consensus in how to classify between hamlets, villages, towns and cities, i'd tried to move the debate as best i could. My goal would be to create a default algorithm to classify these places, but as jeisenbe pointed out, the

Re: [Tagging] map of international institutions, such as EU institutions in Brussels

Thank you for your feedback. I think that I can create/modify POIs for EU institutions to include the following tags (non exhaustive): 1) office=government 2) government=* 3) country=* I found two valuable resources: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:office%3Ddiplomatic https://en.wikipe

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Digest, Vol 120, Issue 33

>Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2019 18:35:46 +0200 >From: Colin Smale >To: tagging@openstreetmap.org >Subject: Re: [Tagging] Populated settlement classification >Message-ID: >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >On 2019-09-07 18:17, Paul Allen wrote: >> Some >> large towns have taken to calling them

Re: [Tagging] map of international institutions, such as EU institutions in Brussels

7 Sep 2019, 18:19 by rob...@riemann.cc: > However, I noticed that many buildings are not tagged accordingly, but > instead > have only a POI. > And this is correct and (IMHO) a better tagging. Note that building may have multiple  offices and that office name is typically not name is the buil

Re: [Tagging] Populated settlement classification

On Sat, 7 Sep 2019 at 20:15, Kevin Kenny wrote: > On Sat, Sep 7, 2019 at 2:27 PM Paul Allen wrote: > > All of which contrasts with US usage where it appears that any > settlement of any size > > can style itself a city. > > Each of the fifty states very likely has a different set of rules. > The

Re: [Tagging] Populated settlement classification

On Sat, Sep 7, 2019 at 2:27 PM Paul Allen wrote: > All of which contrasts with US usage where it appears that any settlement of > any size > can style itself a city. Each of the fifty states very likely has a different set of rules. There's also a difference between the style and the legality.

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Dehesa

Hi! Daniel, from Spain. Thank you very much for your comments. I didn't know much about "dehesas" and I'm learning by reading your comments on this mailing list and on the wiki [1]. (I also didn't know the tag "landuse=meadow_orchard". Interesting!) A "dehesa" is not a "landuse=farmland". Nor is

Re: [Tagging] Populated settlement classification

On Sat, 7 Sep 2019 at 18:23, Colin Smale wrote: Aah, I thought you were implying that some places were wilfully > misrepresenting themselves for "marketing" reasons! > That's actually how I remembered it. But now you've prodded my memory, I think what I actually read was that there are a number

Re: [Tagging] Populated settlement classification

On 2019-09-07 19:04, Paul Allen wrote: > On Sat, 7 Sep 2019 at 17:37, Colin Smale wrote: > > On 2019-09-07 18:17, Paul Allen wrote: > > Some > large towns have taken to calling themselves cities even though they do not > have a royal > charter awarding them that status. > > Got any exampl

Re: [Tagging] Populated settlement classification

+1 Wolfgang Zenker wrote > * Iago Casabiell < > iagocasabiell@ > > [190907 18:29]: >> Exactly, so how do we solve this? > > Very simple: By letting the people tag it that live there and have local > knowledge. They know what the place is called locally, and that usually > is based on a complex

Re: [Tagging] Populated settlement classification

On Sat, 7 Sep 2019 at 17:37, Colin Smale wrote: > On 2019-09-07 18:17, Paul Allen wrote: > > Some > large towns have taken to calling themselves cities even though they do > not have a royal > charter awarding them that status. > > > Got any examples of this? > My crappy memory doesn't remember

Re: [Tagging] Populated settlement classification

* Iago Casabiell [190907 18:29]: > Exactly, so how do we solve this? Very simple: By letting the people tag it that live there and have local knowledge. They know what the place is called locally, and that usually is based on a complex amalgamation of size, population, cultural, economic and hist

Re: [Tagging] map of international institutions, such as EU institutions in Brussels

Hi, * Robert Riemann [190907 17:19]: > I crosspost this topic from [OSM-talk-be] for its relevance in other areas of > the card. I suggest in this mail to agree on a tag or create a new tag. > I would like to generate a map of EU buildings in Brussels similar to this > one: https://www.consili

Re: [Tagging] Populated settlement classification

On 2019-09-07 18:17, Paul Allen wrote: > Some > large towns have taken to calling themselves cities even though they do not > have a royal > charter awarding them that status. Got any examples of this?___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.or

[Tagging] Populated settlement classification

Exactly, so how do we solve this? There are comments in the wiki suggesting to create new tags, like place=big_hamlet, place=small_town, etc. But as jeisenbe pointed out, it's already complicated enough. Basing the classification solely on population would make the tag:population redundant. There

Re: [Tagging] Populated settlement classification

On Sat, 7 Sep 2019 at 11:44, Iago Casabiell wrote: > > I generated a proposal for the classification criteria of populated > settlements here: > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Populated_settlements_classification > . > As others have said, we strive for global applicabilit

Re: [Tagging] map of international institutions, such as EU institutions in Brussels

On 2019-09-07 17:19, Robert Riemann wrote: > Dear all, > > I crosspost this topic from [OSM-talk-be] for its relevance in other areas of > the card. I suggest in this mail to agree on a tag or create a new tag. > > I would like to generate a map of EU buildings in Brussels similar to this > on

Re: [Tagging] map of international institutions, such as EU institutions in Brussels

Am Sa., 7. Sept. 2019 um 17:20 Uhr schrieb Robert Riemann : > I looked for quite some time to find approriate tags, but I believe now we > need to introduce at least one new tag. > > 1) there is office=government and government=* > > This does not cover the special jurisdiction. The European Parli

[Tagging] Populated settlement classification

Well, as there is no clear consensus in how to classify between hamlets, villages, towns and cities, i'd tried to move the debate as best i could. My goal would be to create a default algorithm to classify these places, but as jeisenbe pointed out, there are several criterias around the globe as t

[Tagging] map of international institutions, such as EU institutions in Brussels

Dear all, I crosspost this topic from [OSM-talk-be] for its relevance in other areas of the card. I suggest in this mail to agree on a tag or create a new tag. I would like to generate a map of EU buildings in Brussels similar to this one: https://www.consilium.europa.eu/media/29697/qc0214964en

Re: [Tagging] building typology vs usage

On Sat, 7 Sep 2019 at 10:03, Frederik Ramm wrote: > > When we say "a cafe in an old church" we think of a building that has > certain properties that make it discernible as a church even long after > it ceased to be one; however, depending on location and denomination, > you might also build a ch

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - RFC - Utility markers

Am Sa., 7. Sept. 2019 um 02:06 Uhr schrieb Joseph Eisenberg < joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com>: > > Why not using marker=* to give its nature and another key utility=* with > values... > > Because most mappers only add 1 tag to each new object. (Folks like > you and me are an exception - and a year ago

Re: [Tagging] Adding leisure=sports_hall to leisure=sports_centre page

On 07/09/2019 01:33, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: Re: > "My UK school had both a gym and a sports hall." What was the difference between the two? Was the gym like a "fitness centre" for weight training, perhaps? In US English we tend to use "gym" for what seems to be a "sports hall" in some dialects,

Re: [Tagging] Populated settlement classification

adding to what Christoph has explained, as we try to have globally meaningful and comparable tags, I believe we should focus on functional (which services + functions are present) and maybe cultural (how is the place regionally seen/valued, which often has also to do with political and historical s

Re: [Tagging] Populated settlement classification

On Saturday 07 September 2019, Iago Casabiell wrote: > I'm new to the mailing list, so first I'm sorry if I miss any step in > a proposal for the wiki. > > I generated a proposal for the classification criteria of populated > settlements here: > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features

[Tagging] Populated settlement classification

I'm new to the mailing list, so first I'm sorry if I miss any step in a proposal for the wiki. I generated a proposal for the classification criteria of populated settlements here: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Populated_settlements_classification .

Re: [Tagging] Tag for a milk_shake shop?

On 06/09/19 15:21, Andrew Harvey wrote: I'd tag it as amenity=cafe, even without selling coffee They sell coffee too, and hot chocolate and sweets... as well as milk shakes.. I still think it fits into https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity=cafe, just with a cuisine tag to specify

Re: [Tagging] Education on topic for music schools

From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_College_of_Music "all aspects of Westernclassical music from undergraduate to doctoral level. There is a junior department, where 300 children aged 8 to 18 are educated on Saturdays" 'Music Schools' com

Re: [Tagging] Adding leisure=sports_hall to leisure=sports_centre page

On 07.09.2019 07:57, Hufkratzer wrote: Recently you [jesienbe] added to the wiki page for sports_centre that sports halls inside of sports centres don't need a leisure tag if the centre is mapped as an area. And this is wrong, as it fails the purpose of the leisure=sports_hall tag. As I remem

Re: [Tagging] building typology vs usage

sent from a phone > On 7. Sep 2019, at 11:00, Frederik Ramm wrote: > > however, depending on location and denomination, > you might also build a church using a blueprint for a plain community > centre. In that case would it still be building=church becasue that was > the original, intended use

Re: [Tagging] Adding leisure=sports_hall to leisure=sports_centre page

sent from a phone > On 7. Sep 2019, at 09:28, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > > Per taginfo, building=yes is used 7500 times with leisure=pitch, and > covered=yes is used 1017 times, so I suppose it's more common to match > the pitch with the same outline as the building rather than using > covered=

Re: [Tagging] building typology vs usage

Hi, On 07.09.2019 09:16, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: >> While in theory building=school could be reused as a hotel/pub (See >> https://www.mcmenamins.com/kennedy-school) in that case the building >> will be inside of a tourism=hotel polygon Why would it - a standalone former school in a city that no

Re: [Tagging] Adding leisure=sports_hall to leisure=sports_centre page

sent from a phone On 7. Sep 2019, at 02:35, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: >> +1, this is exactly how I see it as well > > Is this how the tag has been used in Rome and in other areas that you > know? I'd like to add this to the page Tag:leisure=sports_hall to help > clarify how it's different from

[Tagging] building typology vs usage / Re: Adding leisure=sports_hall to leisure=sports_centre page

On 07.09.2019 09:16, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: To me it seems redundant to tag leisure=sports_hall on buildings inside of a leisure=sports_center, like tagging "healthcare=hospital_ward" on each building inside of a large medical center which is already mapped as amenity=hospital. The standard tagg

Re: [Tagging] Adding leisure=sports_hall to leisure=sports_centre page

Per taginfo, building=yes is used 7500 times with leisure=pitch, and covered=yes is used 1017 times, so I suppose it's more common to match the pitch with the same outline as the building rather than using covered=yes and a separate building outline. https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/leisure=p

Re: [Tagging] Adding leisure=sports_hall to leisure=sports_centre page

> how do you recomend to tag a fitness studio inside of a sports centre Is a "fitness studio" a sports hall? I thought a sports hall was a building with a large court (leisure=pitch) instead or several courts, and probably with toilets and changing rooms. Isn't a fitness centre tagged leisure=fitn