Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping with a data logger

2008-03-25 Thread John McKerrell
On 23 Mar 2008, at 13:24, Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: > El Domingo, 23 de Marzo de 2008, Mike Collinson escribió: >> 2) I have a PDA with a GPS device built-in. Expensive but very >> inconspicuous. > > Hhhmmm. What about a Nokia N95 with built-in GPS? > There was the Holux M241 we discussed the o

Re: [OSM-talk] Recruitment/Community Poster.

2008-03-25 Thread Nick Black
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 3:43 AM, Simon Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > It would appear that the amount of OSM'ers here in Canada is a little > limited. especially in the rural areas. The bigger cities have be more or > less mapped out from the high resolution aerial photography, howe

[OSM-talk] railway=incline?

2008-03-25 Thread Sven Geggus
Hello, I just want to ask whats the State of "railway=incline"? While it does not apear on map-features ist seems to be in use, as it can be found on the "TIGER to OSM Attribute Map". They are not rendered however. Sven -- This APT has Super Cow Powers.

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping with a data logger

2008-03-25 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, > I was wondering about whether you could use a tom tom though. With > the default software they don't log so they might allow it into the > country, but if you put opentomtom on it I believe you could log > traces. Google gives some results about free add-ons you can put on your Tomtom for

Re: [OSM-talk] GeoGratis - Low accuracy Waterways.

2008-03-25 Thread Blake Crosby
Just an update... Ways have been removed, I'm in the process of removing the nodes should be done in about 2 hours or so. I will post another update when the removal process is complete. Blake Blake Crosby wrote: >> The history also doesn't show a user for the intial way, though this >> data

[OSM-talk] Potlatch 0.8

2008-03-25 Thread Richard Fairhurst
(cc:ed to talk-gb for NPE relevance, follow-ups as appropriate) Hi all, I'm delighted to say Potlatch v0.8 is now live (thanks Tom!). == Relations support == Thanks to Dave Stubbs, Potlatch now has really good support for relations. This means you can easily create long-distance routes, ho

[OSM-talk] openstreetmap.ca planet mirror

2008-03-25 Thread Blake Crosby
It seems as though the extracts are missing from www.openstreetmap.ca/planet/ . Just wondering if the maintainer needs someone to fix the broken scripts and/or if he/she knows when they will be fixed. I would be willing to help out if needed. Blake

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch 0.8

2008-03-25 Thread Jo
Richard Fairhurst wrote: > (cc:ed to talk-gb for NPE relevance, follow-ups as appropriate) > > Hi all, > > I'm delighted to say Potlatch v0.8 is now live (thanks Tom!). > I saw it yesterday and it simply looks great! Congratulations Richard and Dave. It's amazing what you achieved. I can now ch

Re: [OSM-talk] Stares

2008-03-25 Thread Raphaël Jacquot
J.D. Schmidt wrote: > Andy Robinson (blackadder) skrev: >> There is no need for OSM data gathering to be a subversive activity. Make a >> statement about it and tell people what you are doing. >> > > Aaaww shucks - There goes 250 € down the drain. Anybody interested in a > full urban camouflage

Re: [OSM-talk] Recruitment/Community Poster.

2008-03-25 Thread Robert (Jamie) Munro
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Simon Wood wrote: | Hi all, | It would appear that the amount of OSM'ers here in Canada is a little | limited. especially in the rural areas. The bigger cities have be more | or less mapped out from the high resolution aerial photography, however | man

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch 0.8

2008-03-25 Thread Ben Laenen
On Tuesday 25 March 2008, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > To add a way/whatever to a relation, use the new "link" icon on the > right, then select a nearby relation from the menu (or "Create a new > relation"). Thanks for the relation support, it looks great :-) One question: is it possible to add a w

[OSM-talk] JOSM and scale

2008-03-25 Thread Lars Aronsson
At the equator, each degree of latitude or longitude represents a distance of 111 km. At latitude 60° (N or S), each latitude degree is still 111 km but since cos 60° = 0.5, each longitude degree is just half of that or 55.5 km. In JOSM, when I use the Mercator projection method, look at the

Re: [OSM-talk] Cycle lanes

2008-03-25 Thread Lars Aronsson
OJ W wrote: > Sounds very similar to the cycleway tagging in Bedford; treat it > as a separate way if it's not on the road, which makes it easy > to show if it takes detours away from the road: But I want it to be just next to the street, with no gap and no overlap, and getting this right requ

Re: [OSM-talk] Cycle lanes

2008-03-25 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder)
Lars Aronsson wrote: >Sent: 25 March 2008 2:19 PM >To: talk@openstreetmap.org >Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Cycle lanes > >OJ W wrote: > >> Sounds very similar to the cycleway tagging in Bedford; treat it >> as a separate way if it's not on the road, which makes it easy >> to show if it takes detours aw

Re: [OSM-talk] Stares

2008-03-25 Thread Thomas Szukala
Nick Whitelegg schrieb: >> I tend to keep my GPS unit in my pocket when I encounter people. The >> accuracy probably suffers, but at least I don't get the stares :) >> > > To be honest I'd have thought keeping the gps unit out would mean you're > less likely to get harassed - it makes you lo

Re: [OSM-talk] JOSM and scale

2008-03-25 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, > I've never cared too much about that scale, but now I know that > these apartment buildings along Syrengatan are 11 x 32 metres and > not 22 x 64 metres as JOSM would lead you to believe, > http://www.openstreetmap.org/? > lat=58.407&lon=15.600&zoom=17&layers=0BFT I'll look into that. > "

Re: [OSM-talk] JOSM and scale

2008-03-25 Thread Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio
Yes, they are probably using the same scale bar for WGS84 and Mercator. As far as I know, in WGS84, the scale bar is correct vertically (lat), but in Mercator, that scale bar is wrong both vertically and horizontally if you are far away from the Equator. As you say, one easy way would be to c

Re: [OSM-talk] railway=incline?

2008-03-25 Thread Robert (Jamie) Munro
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sven Geggus wrote: | Hello, | | I just want to ask whats the State of "railway=incline"? | | While it does not apear on map-features ist seems to be in use, as it can be | found on the "TIGER to OSM Attribute Map". What does it mean? Is that like a fu

Re: [OSM-talk] railway=incline?

2008-03-25 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder)
Robert (Jamie) Munro wrote: >Sent: 25 March 2008 4:21 PM >To: Sven Geggus; Talk Openstreetmap >Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] railway=incline? > >-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >Hash: SHA1 > >Sven Geggus wrote: >| Hello, >| >| I just want to ask whats the State of "railway=incline"? >| >| While it doe

Re: [OSM-talk] JOSM and scale

2008-03-25 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder)
Frederik Ramm wrote: >Sent: 25 March 2008 3:47 PM >To: Lars Aronsson >Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org >Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] JOSM and scale > >Hi, > >> I've never cared too much about that scale, but now I know that >> these apartment buildings along Syrengatan are 11 x 32 metres and >> not 22 x 64 me

Re: [OSM-talk] JOSM and scale

2008-03-25 Thread Robert (Jamie) Munro
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio wrote: | Yes, they are probably using the same scale bar for WGS84 and Mercator. | | As far as I know, in WGS84, the scale bar is correct vertically (lat), | but in Mercator, that scale bar is wrong both vertically and | hori

Re: [OSM-talk] Recruitment/Community Poster.

2008-03-25 Thread Chris Jones
Robert (Jamie) Munro wrote: > I'd like a really trivial to use road naming interface for people who > live on roads that other people have traced from aerial imagery. So easy > my Dad could do it - click on the road and a text box with the name and > a drop down of road types appears. Type the name

Re: [OSM-talk] JOSM and scale

2008-03-25 Thread David Earl
On 25/03/2008 17:16, Andy Robinson (blackadder) wrote: > Vector editing software such as CAD packages are normally scale free at the > editing level. The co-ordinates are simply sufficient, especially if you > have the ability to draw a vector a specific distance from a point as a > polar ray or sn

Re: [OSM-talk] JOSM and scale

2008-03-25 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder)
David Earl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Sent: 25 March 2008 5:30 PM >To: Andy Robinson (blackadder) >Cc: 'Frederik Ramm'; 'Lars Aronsson'; talk@openstreetmap.org >Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] JOSM and scale > >On 25/03/2008 17:16, Andy Robinson (blackadder) wrote: >> Vector editing software such as

Re: [OSM-talk] Recruitment/Community Poster.

2008-03-25 Thread simon
> This is a great idea. Can I suggest that you put a copy of the text > and the final poster up on the wiki so we can reuse it in other areas? Page started here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Recruitment_Poster Feel free to hack it into shape. I'll put in the suggestions made so far,

Re: [OSM-talk] JOSM and scale

2008-03-25 Thread Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio
> In Mercator distance is constant independent of orientation, isn't it? I don't know what you mean exactly. If you use JOSM with the Mercator projection and draw a perfect circle in the North of Sweden, you are actually drawing a horizontal ellipse (east-west oriented) in the real world. L

Re: [OSM-talk] JOSM and scale

2008-03-25 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, > In Mercator distance is constant independent of orientation, isn't it? No, the effect is just not as pronounced as it is if you use EPSG4326. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" ___ talk mail

Re: [OSM-talk] JOSM and scale

2008-03-25 Thread David Earl
On 25/03/2008 19:16, Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: > >> In Mercator distance is constant independent of orientation, isn't it? > > Wrong. Quoting Wikipedia: > > "While the direction and shapes are accurate on a Mercator projection, it > distorts the size." > > In other words, the Mercator projecti

Re: [OSM-talk] JOSM and scale

2008-03-25 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
> In Mercator distance is constant independent of orientation, isn't it? Wrong. Quoting Wikipedia: "While the direction and shapes are accurate on a Mercator projection, it distorts the size." In other words, the Mercator projection is conformal, but not equidistant. In other words, it preserv

[OSM-talk] Name finder and home page search working again

2008-03-25 Thread David Earl
I'm pleased to say that after a major overhaul of the name finder to make it possible to update incrementally, and also a move to a different server (many thanks to Tom for helping set this up), the Name Finder and home page search box are now working again with a bang up to date index. The Name

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch 0.8

2008-03-25 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 1:56 PM, Ben Laenen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tuesday 25 March 2008, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > > To add a way/whatever to a relation, use the new "link" icon on the > > right, then select a nearby relation from the menu (or "Create a new > > relation"). > > Thanks

Re: [OSM-talk] Name finder and home page search working again

2008-03-25 Thread Andy Robinson
Awesome, great work David and all. Cheers Andy On 25/03/2008, David Earl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm pleased to say that after a major overhaul of the name finder to > make it possible to update incrementally, and also a move to a different > server (many thanks to Tom for helping set this

Re: [OSM-talk] Name finder and home page search working again

2008-03-25 Thread Thomas Wood
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 7:41 PM, David Earl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: snip > - All combinations of apostrophe s, singular and plural should now work > (previously it worked if it was mapped with 's and searched without, but > not vice-versa). > > - We now get 100% on the "British Museum Test f

[OSM-talk] Tagging schema for farms

2008-03-25 Thread Matt Williams
Hello all, I've got to the point in my local area [1] where most of the roads etc. are mapped and now I'd like to start fleshing out the local countryside. Now, since a huge amount of the countyside is farmland I've been lookin into how to best tag it. However, currently we are somewhat lacking

Re: [OSM-talk] Name finder and home page search working again

2008-03-25 Thread David Earl
On 25/03/2008 20:53, Thomas Wood wrote: > The namefinder still seems to fail with: St Paul's Cathedral > (apostrophe as copied & pasted from the British Museum blog post) Odd - it worked yesterday when I tried it. I'll investigate. I can't get through at all at the moment - presumably everyone is

Re: [OSM-talk] Name finder and home page search working again

2008-03-25 Thread David Earl
On 25/03/2008 21:00, David Earl wrote: > On 25/03/2008 20:53, Thomas Wood wrote: >> The namefinder still seems to fail with: St Paul's Cathedral >> (apostrophe as copied & pasted from the British Museum blog post) > > Odd - it worked yesterday when I tried it. I'll investigate. > > I can't get th

Re: [OSM-talk] railway=incline?

2008-03-25 Thread Alex Mauer
Andy Robinson (blackadder) wrote: >> What does it mean? Is that like a funicular railway? >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Funicular_railway >> >> I'd prefer railway=funicular than railway=incline. Incline sounds like >> it's just a railway on a slope. > > Absolutely ri

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging schema for farms

2008-03-25 Thread simon
Just thinking off the top of my head, it would be useful to be able to tag: perminant irregation booms dug outs feed lots (and maybe predominant wind direction ;-) Cheers, Mungewell. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetm

Re: [OSM-talk] railway=incline?

2008-03-25 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder)
Alex Mauer wrote: >Sent: 25 March 2008 9:16 PM >To: talk@openstreetmap.org >Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] railway=incline? > >Andy Robinson (blackadder) wrote: >>> What does it mean? Is that like a funicular railway? >>> >http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Funicular_railway >>> >>>

[OSM-talk] [tagging] RFC: railway=incline

2008-03-25 Thread Alex Mauer
Andy Robinson (blackadder) wrote: > I clearly got it wrong, apologies for that. So the question is whether to > group them under a single definition or to split between funicular an > rack/cog. I'd be all for splitting them under a separate key (railway:incline:type=funicular/cable/rack? I know

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping with a data logger

2008-03-25 Thread Alex S.
Frederik Ramm wrote: > Google gives some results about free add-ons you can put on your > Tomtom for track logging; seems you don't have to go the full > Opentomtom route. I added Event_Logger to my TomTom for collecting track logs. It works great and doesn't inhibit the default routing app.

Re: [OSM-talk] JOSM and scale

2008-03-25 Thread Robert (Jamie) Munro
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio wrote: | > In Mercator distance is constant independent of orientation, isn't it? | | I don't know what you mean exactly. | | If you use JOSM with the Mercator projection and draw a perfect circle | in the North of Sweden, y

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping with a data logger

2008-03-25 Thread John McKerrell
On 25 Mar 2008, at 22:18, Alex S. wrote: > Frederik Ramm wrote: >> Google gives some results about free add-ons you can put on your >> Tomtom for track logging; seems you don't have to go the full >> Opentomtom route. > > I added Event_Logger to my TomTom for collecting track logs. It works > gr

Re: [OSM-talk] JOSM and scale

2008-03-25 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder)
Robert (Jamie) Munro wrote: >Sent: 25 March 2008 10:27 PM >To: Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio >Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org >Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] JOSM and scale > >-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >Hash: SHA1 > >Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio wrote: >| > In Mercator distance is constant independent of

Re: [OSM-talk] railway=incline?

2008-03-25 Thread Alex Mauer
Robert (Jamie) Munro wrote: > I think I know only 1 rack system - Snowdon mountain railway in Wales, > but I've come across several funicular systems on holidays round Europe. There is a list of rack railways at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rack_railway#List_of_cog_and_rack_railways > IMHO we sho

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] RFC: railway=incline

2008-03-25 Thread Sven Geggus
Alex Mauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've written up a proposal here: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Incline_railway I don't like this! It is often impossible to differeciate between incline railways and ordinary railways, esecially in countries like Switzerland.

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] RFC: railway=incline

2008-03-25 Thread Alex Mauer
Sven Geggus wrote: > Alex Mauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I've written up a proposal here: >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Incline_railway > > I don't like this! It is often impossible to differeciate between > incline railways and ordinary railways, esecially i

[OSM-talk] OSM Bumper-Sticker

2008-03-25 Thread J.D. Schmidt
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Image:OSM-streamer.jpg Bumpersticker produced for fun, and now prominently featured on SteveC's Mac laptop, as well as on my 50 ccm scooter, which so far has been used while collecting appr. 30 % of my gps tracks used for the Copenhagen data (The remai

Re: [OSM-talk] Name finder and home page search working again

2008-03-25 Thread Colin Marquardt
David Earl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'm pleased to say that after a major overhaul of the name finder to > make it possible to update incrementally, and also a move to a different > server (many thanks to Tom for helping set this up), the Name Finder and > home page search box are now workin

Re: [OSM-talk] Name finder and home page search working again

2008-03-25 Thread Sven Grüner
Colin Marquardt schrieb: > Since we have people's attention: please everybody extend > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Name_finder:Abbreviations That brought up another question to my mind, which isn't related to the name finder in particular: Is there any agreement on how to tag abreviate

Re: [OSM-talk] JOSM and scale

2008-03-25 Thread Lars Aronsson
Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio wrote: > If you use JOSM with the Mercator projection and draw a perfect > circle in the North of Sweden, you are actually drawing a > horizontal ellipse (east-west oriented) in the real world. Not true. The very idea of (the transversal) Mercator is that shapes suc

Re: [OSM-talk] Name finder and home page search working again

2008-03-25 Thread Lars Aronsson
Sven Grüner wrote: > That brought up another question to my mind, which isn't related > to the name finder in particular: Is there any agreement on how > to tag abreviated place names? When there's the 'Volkswagen > plant' people would also search for 'VW plant'. Obviously no > application lik

Re: [OSM-talk] Recruitment/Community Poster.

2008-03-25 Thread Hiroshi Miura
Simon, It is a same reason to start openstreetmap.jp as a poster to newbie in local language. Also show case of map. There is Japan map as almost empty and need volunteer. I am glad to see good start point about creation of Japanese poster as wiki document. Japanese one will apear on the j site