Re: [OSM-talk] railway=incline?

2008-03-26 Thread Tomáš Tichý
I agree that rack and funicular should be specific tag for "normal" railway types. The reason is, that there are railways, which are rack (or cable) driven only in part of their route. And there could be also rack tramway, funicular subway etc. So I propose following tagging scheme: railway=ra

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping with a data logger

2008-03-26 Thread Alex S.
John McKerrell wrote: > Thankyou, thankyou, thankyou, I did have a google but couldn't find > anything useful, have found Event_Logger now :-D Note that if you wish to use it for tracking your own travel without others knowing that you are doing so, you should disable the default warning messa

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] RFC: railway=incline

2008-03-26 Thread Robert Vollmert
On Mar 26, 2008, at 00:24, Alex Mauer wrote: > Sven Geggus wrote: >> Alex Mauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> I've written up a proposal here: >>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Incline_railway >> >> I don't like this! It is often impossible to differeciate between >

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging schema for farms

2008-03-26 Thread Mark Williams
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Matt Williams wrote: > Hello all, [snip] > What I'd like to do is get the feel for what people want from a farm tagging > scheme from this list and then put together a decent, coherent proposal to > get this sorted out - once and for all. Now, the wa

Re: [OSM-talk] JOSM and scale

2008-03-26 Thread Mark Williams
Lars Aronsson wrote: [some serious stuff] > Also, returning to cycle lanes, the "secondary" road > Malmslättsvägen is now marked with cycleway=lane, but this doesn't > show on the map here. And how can I indicate that this bus stop > is only on the southern side of the street (buses going east

Re: [OSM-talk] JOSM and scale

2008-03-26 Thread Andy Robinson
On 26/03/2008, Mark Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Lars Aronsson wrote: > [some serious stuff] > > > > Also, returning to cycle lanes, the "secondary" road > > Malmslättsvägen is now marked with cycleway=lane, but this doesn't > > show on the map here. And how can I indicate that this b

Re: [OSM-talk] Name finder and home page search working again

2008-03-26 Thread 80n
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 3:37 AM, Lars Aronsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sven Grüner wrote: > > > That brought up another question to my mind, which isn't related > > to the name finder in particular: Is there any agreement on how > > to tag abreviated place names? When there's the 'Volkswagen

Re: [OSM-talk] Name finder and home page search working again

2008-03-26 Thread Andy Robinson
On 26/03/2008, Lars Aronsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sven Grüner wrote: > > > That brought up another question to my mind, which isn't related > > to the name finder in particular: Is there any agreement on how > > to tag abreviated place names? When there's the 'Volkswagen > > plant' peop

[OSM-talk] Marble/KDE and Google Summer of Code

2008-03-26 Thread Tom Chance
Hi all, Just thought people might be interested in this blog entry from Torsten about plans for Marble, KDE's generic geographical map widget and framework: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3350 He lists some SoC projects making use of OSM, it's shaping up to be a really nice cross-platform sh

Re: [OSM-talk] Cycle lanes

2008-03-26 Thread Lars Aronsson
Alex Mauer wrote: > It also has the problem that ways can easily get reversed, and > then the left/right meanings are backwards. A bus stop is an attribute on a node (highway=bus_stop) in the middle of a way. If I want to indicate that this bus stop is on one side of the street, left and righ

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] RFC: railway=incline

2008-03-26 Thread Nick
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Sven Geggus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Thus I would suggest the new tag railway=funicular and an additional tag like >rack=yes +1 I think trying to call funiculars "incline railways" and then combining this idea with rack railways smells of over-generalisation.

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering power lines: black is beauty

2008-03-26 Thread Steve Chilton
"Are the street names actually back at all levels?" Can you expand on that one please, as I don't understand the implication? Steve Chilton, Learning Support Fellow Learning and Technical Support Unit Manager School of Health and Social Sciences Middlesex University phone/fax: 020 8411 5355 email

Re: [OSM-talk] JOSM and scale

2008-03-26 Thread Lars Aronsson
Andy Robinson wrote: > Its perhaps not ideal to place the bus_stop off to the side of the > highway since the stop is part of the highway. What's more, the bus stop is a physical area, some 5-6 metres wide that is a wedge between the street and the cycleway+sidewalk. I'd like things to be rende

[OSM-talk] osmwiki - Annotatable points of interest

2008-03-26 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Hello everyone, Have hacked my Freemap code slightly to use [EMAIL PROTECTED] maps and produced a simple, demo "osmwiki" application to allow people to annotate points of interest and view previous annotations. It's at http://www.free-map.org.uk/freemap/osmwiki/ You can click on a POI (e..g

Re: [OSM-talk] Cycle lanes

2008-03-26 Thread J.D. Schmidt
Lars Aronsson skrev: > Alex Mauer wrote: > >> It also has the problem that ways can easily get reversed, and >> then the left/right meanings are backwards. > > A bus stop is an attribute on a node (highway=bus_stop) in the > middle of a way. If I want to indicate that this bus stop is on > on

Re: [OSM-talk] Cycle lanes

2008-03-26 Thread Jo
J.D. Schmidt wrote: > Lars Aronsson skrev: > >> Alex Mauer wrote: >> >> >>> It also has the problem that ways can easily get reversed, and >>> then the left/right meanings are backwards. >>> >> A bus stop is an attribute on a node (highway=bus_stop) in the >> middle of a way. If I

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] RFC: railway=incline

2008-03-26 Thread Cartinus
On Wednesday 26 March 2008 00:16:41 Sven Geggus wrote: > Thus I would suggest the new tag railway=funicular and an additional tag > like rack=yes +1 But you don't have to suggest this now. ;) Proposals for both already existed in the wiki before Hawke wrote the railway=incline proposal. http://

Re: [OSM-talk] Name finder and home page search working again

2008-03-26 Thread David Earl
On 25/03/2008 21:18, David Earl wrote: > On 25/03/2008 21:00, David Earl wrote: >> On 25/03/2008 20:53, Thomas Wood wrote: >>> The namefinder still seems to fail with: St Paul's Cathedral >>> (apostrophe as copied & pasted from the British Museum blog post) > > Oh perversity! They've put a "&rsquo

[OSM-talk] Participating in TAH

2008-03-26 Thread Christopher Woods
I have a handful of machines at my disposal (less than ten but more than three!) that I'm interested in using to contribute towards rendering tiles. However, I can't find an easy way of signing up, I can't attach to the project in BOINC and there's not much help on the TAH site. Can someone get i

Re: [OSM-talk] Name finder and home page search working again

2008-03-26 Thread David Earl
On 26/03/2008 01:43, Sven Grüner wrote: > Colin Marquardt schrieb: >> Since we have people's attention: please everybody extend >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Name_finder:Abbreviations > > That brought up another question to my mind, which isn't related to the > name finder in particul

[OSM-talk] OSMers are subversive

2008-03-26 Thread Maning Sambale
After more than two years in OSM, I am in the conclusion that OSMers are a subversive bunch! Garmin eTrex manual: Do not attempt to use the eTrex for any purpose requiring precise measurement of direction, distance, location, or topography OSMer: Why not? We use it for mapping roads, landuse, tr

Re: [OSM-talk] GeoGratis - Low accuracy Waterways.

2008-03-26 Thread Blake Crosby
All of the offending data has been removed. Please let me know if you see anything odd or of the data in your area of Canada is still there. Blake Blake Crosby wrote: > Just an update... > > Ways have been removed, I'm in the process of removing the nodes should > be done in about 2 hours or

Re: [OSM-talk] Cycle lanes

2008-03-26 Thread Lars Aronsson
J.D. Schmidt wrote: > It doesn't matter if the busstop is on the right or left side of > the road... Neither OSM wise, nor in the real world. In the real > world you use your eyes and see the busstop. The same goes for oneway streets then. We don't have to indicate which direction they go, be

Re: [OSM-talk] Name finder and home page search working again

2008-03-26 Thread Abigail Brady
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 11:35 AM, David Earl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It uses "name", then "place_name" (but only when name is not given), > then "ref", "iata", "icao", "old_name", and "loc_name" as if these were > in square brackets after the name as described above. Hence > "name=Archway Roa

[OSM-talk] Daily Stats - Graphical Charts

2008-03-26 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder)
I finally found time to update the main graphical charts with the daily stats from the database. All the charts are pointing in the right direction :-) http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Stats#Database_Statistics_-_Graphica l Cheers Andy __

Re: [OSM-talk] Participating in TAH

2008-03-26 Thread Tom Chance
Hi, On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 11:48:26 -, "Christopher Woods" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have a handful of machines at my disposal (less than ten but more than > three!) that I'm interested in using to contribute towards rendering > tiles. > However, I can't find an easy way of signing up, I ca

Re: [OSM-talk] Name finder and home page search working again

2008-03-26 Thread David Earl
On 26/03/2008 13:49, Abigail Brady wrote: > On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 11:35 AM, David Earl <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > > It uses "name", then "place_name" (but only when name is not given), > then "ref", "iata", "icao", "old_name", and "loc_name" as if these we

Re: [OSM-talk] Cycle lanes

2008-03-26 Thread Sebastian Spaeth
Lars Aronsson wrote: > J.D. Schmidt wrote: > >> It doesn't matter if the busstop is on the right or left side of >> the road... Neither OSM wise, nor in the real world. In the real >> world you use your eyes and see the busstop. > Of course it matters which side the bus stop is on. You don't

Re: [OSM-talk] Daily Stats - Graphical Charts

2008-03-26 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder)
Martijn van Exel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Sent: 26 March 2008 2:15 PM >To: Andy Robinson (blackadder) >Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Daily Stats - Graphical Charts > >Cool to see this being updated. Everything is indeed looking good. >What's the gap appearing around 07/07 in some graphs? Prior

Re: [OSM-talk] Name finder and home page search working again

2008-03-26 Thread Sebastian Spaeth
I looked up my street and indeed: "Secondary road Zürichstrasse, about 1km north-east of Kämmaten" http://openstreetmap.org/?mlat=47.395633&mlon=8.605475&zoom=16 However that "Kämmaten" is a 3 house hamlet close by, while the town of Dübendorf (where I live) with 20,000 inhabitants which is about

Re: [OSM-talk] Cycle lanes

2008-03-26 Thread Jo
Sebastian Spaeth wrote: > Lars Aronsson wrote: > >> J.D. Schmidt wrote: >> >> >>> It doesn't matter if the busstop is on the right or left side of >>> the road... Neither OSM wise, nor in the real world. In the real >>> world you use your eyes and see the busstop. >>> > > >> Of

Re: [OSM-talk] Name finder and home page search working again

2008-03-26 Thread David Earl
On 26/03/2008 15:33, David Earl wrote: > In your case, Zürichstrasse is apparently closer to Wallisellen than > Dübendorf, so I'm afraid that's the point of reference you get in the > expanded context. Name finder is based entirely on proximity; I'd need a > reliable set of boundary information

Re: [OSM-talk] Name finder and home page search working again

2008-03-26 Thread David Earl
On 26/03/2008 15:14, Sebastian Spaeth wrote: > I looked up my street and indeed: > "Secondary road Zürichstrasse, about 1km north-east of Kämmaten" > http://openstreetmap.org/?mlat=47.395633&mlon=8.605475&zoom=16 > > However that "Kämmaten" is a 3 house hamlet close by, while the town of > Dübendo

Re: [OSM-talk] Cycle lanes

2008-03-26 Thread Karl Newman
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 10:39 AM, Jo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sebastian Spaeth wrote: > > Lars Aronsson wrote: > > > >> J.D. Schmidt wrote: > >> > >> > >>> It doesn't matter if the busstop is on the right or left side of > >>> the road... Neither OSM wise, nor in the real world. In the real >

Re: [OSM-talk] Cycle lanes

2008-03-26 Thread Robert (Jamie) Munro
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Lars Aronsson wrote: | A bus stop is an attribute on a node (highway=bus_stop) in the | middle of a way. If I want to indicate that this bus stop is on | one side of the street, left and right don't matter much, since | there can be two ways both poin

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Including OSM maps in leaflets

2008-03-26 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, > Are you OK to put small print along the lines of "Map data from > OpenStreetMap.org, see http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/ > for details" under the map, or do I need more? Sounds ok apart from the fact that we're CC-BY-SA 2.0, not 3.0. Bye Frederik _

[OSM-talk] Coastline checker / fixer

2008-03-26 Thread Robert (Jamie) Munro
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I vaguely remember months ago when the coastline checker at http://tile.openstreetmap.nl/coastlines.html was quite new, someone suggested they thought it was mature enough to be used to auto-fix ways that need reversing, and others suggested that it wo

Re: [OSM-talk] JOSM and scale

2008-03-26 Thread Mark Williams
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andy Robinson wrote: > On 26/03/2008, Mark Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Lars Aronsson wrote: >> [some serious stuff] >> >> >> > Also, returning to cycle lanes, the "secondary" road >> > Malmslättsvägen is now marked with cycleway=lane, but

Re: [OSM-talk] JOSM and scale

2008-03-26 Thread Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio
Also, returning to the scale bar issue: I was wrong, if you draw a circle in Mercator it 's more or less a circle in the real world, as long as you are in a low scale, so the scale bar in Mercator will be correct both horizontally and vertically when it s fixed- Lucas _

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] RFC: railway=incline

2008-03-26 Thread Sven Geggus
Alex Mauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If it's impossible to differentiate, then how do you know how to tag it? it is impossible to differentiate by means of railway cars, but not by means of the rails themselves. There are gear racks on some parts of the railway line and tehre are no gear racks

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] RFC: railway=incline

2008-03-26 Thread Sven Geggus
Cartinus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But you don't have to suggest this now. ;) Proposals for both already existed > in the wiki before Hawke wrote the railway=incline proposal. So let us break down the different suggestions and go on vor vote now? As far as I can tell, there are two suggestio

Re: [OSM-talk] Name finder and home page search working again

2008-03-26 Thread OJ W
Is it doing anything with the multilingual names in OSM (name:de=... and similar)? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Key:name On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 11:35 AM, David Earl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 26/03/2008 01:43, Sven Grüner wrote: > > > What about 'short_name', just to make that *

Re: [OSM-talk] Coastline checker / fixer

2008-03-26 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 6:31 PM, Robert (Jamie) Munro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I vaguely remember months ago when the coastline checker at > http://tile.openstreetmap.nl/coastlines.html was quite new, someone > suggested they thought it was mature enough to be used to auto-fix ways > that n

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping with a data logger

2008-03-26 Thread Joerg Ostertag (OSM Munich/Germany)
Am Dienstag, 25. März 2008 11:31:54 schrieb Frederik Ramm: > Hi, > > > I was wondering about whether you could use a tom tom though. With > > the default software they don't log so they might allow it into the > > country, but if you put opentomtom on it I believe you could log > > traces. > > Goog

Re: [OSM-talk] JOSM and scale

2008-03-26 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Miércoles, 26 de Marzo de 2008, Lars Aronsson escribió: > The optimal solution for computerized maps is to use Mercator on > the local level and a picture of a rotating globe on the world > map, just like Google Earth does. But that's a lot harder to do > on the web with today's technology (HTM

Re: [OSM-talk] OSMers are subversive

2008-03-26 Thread tim
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 12:39 PM, Maning Sambale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > After more than two years in OSM, I am in the conclusion that OSMers are > a subversive bunch! Not only that but in some places OSMers are revolutionaries! http://thinkwhere.wordpress.com/2008/01/30/mapping-is-terror

Re: [OSM-talk] Stares

2008-03-26 Thread tim
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 3:13 PM, Thomas Szukala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What about some flyers which you can give to somebody if he shows > interest in what you are doing or is suspicous about it. > > You could even make custom flyers for the area you are mapping at the > moment. This wou

Re: [OSM-talk] Name finder and home page search working again

2008-03-26 Thread Bruce Cowan
On Wed, 2008-03-26 at 08:54 +, 80n wrote: > Why not? It seems reasonable to me to allow people to add common > usage names in addition to formal names. Isn't it, in fact, one of > OSM's unique features that we can do this? As such, Glasgow's "Clyde Arc" has local_name=Squinty Bridge. It sho

Re: [OSM-talk] Participating in TAH

2008-03-26 Thread Christopher Woods
> Install guide is here: > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Tiles%40home/Install_Guide Christ on a bike, I saw the link to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] pages and I totally forgot to check the rest of that wiki page. I've had a bit of a 'special' day today. Thanks all ;) __

Re: [OSM-talk] Name finder and home page search working again

2008-03-26 Thread David Earl
On 26/03/2008 19:31, OJ W wrote: > Is it doing anything with the multilingual names in OSM (name:de=... and > similar)? Yes, that should have been on my list in the previous message. This always was included. e.g. try searching for Cologne and Köln (or Koln) David

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] RFC: railway=incline

2008-03-26 Thread Alex L. Mauer
Sven Geggus wrote: > Cartinus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> But you don't have to suggest this now. ;) Proposals for both already >> existed >> in the wiki before Hawke wrote the railway=incline proposal. > > So let us break down the different suggestions and go on vor vote > now? > > As far

[OSM-talk] new slippy_map_chooser version

2008-03-26 Thread Tim Haussmann
Hi, I just released a new version of the JOSM plugin slippy_map_chooser. If you use JOSM maybe you should check it out. Screenshots are available in the osm wiki: htttp:// wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/JOSM/Plugins/slippy_map_chooser Changes: 1) New button to enlarge the slippy map view(o