Re: [OSM-talk] Network Rail UK

2009-01-23 Thread AJH
On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 22:59:41 +, LeedsTracker wrote: >The accuracy is OK but I tend to need to nudge them a good few metres >when surveying. It's good, the vector files I was directed too, thanks for the replies, are often better than Google and much is from NPE and I doubt there have been man

Re: [OSM-talk] Anonymous editing

2009-01-23 Thread AJH
On Tue, 20 Jan 2009 21:11:57 +, Andy Allan wrote: >I'd like to promote the term "untraceable editing" or something >similar. What we're left with is still anonymous, just that we >(non-server-admin) people can differentiate between two anonymous >accounts. We'll still have no idea who they are

Re: [OSM-talk] When is a bridge not a bridge?

2009-01-23 Thread sergio sevillano
80n escribió: David Was there a specific purpose you had in mind that needs to distinguish between the main span of a bridge and it's ramps, or were you just exploring the level of consistency in current tagging practices? I wonder if we are approaching this problem from the right direction.

Re: [OSM-talk] The Wiki

2009-01-23 Thread Tom Hughes
SteveC wrote: > What I propose is a wiki hack day, co-ordinated on IRC to improve what > we can. Especially from the point of view of a newbie. There are lots > of things which would take more time to fix than to say what needs > fixing. I propose we all list what we think needs help on the

Re: [OSM-talk] The Wiki

2009-01-23 Thread John07
Am 23.01.2009 um 03:02 schrieb SteveC : > It's amazing how the wiki has grown and is really a living place with > a community around it these days, but it's showing some strain. For > example until I fixed it, it was pretty hard for someone typing > 'addressing' to find out about how to do addre

[OSM-talk] HowTo : Import from .shp (ESRI) (or convert to .osm )

2009-01-23 Thread Jaak Laineste
> You can use the excellent Python script by Christopher Schmidt > > http://crschmidt.net/blog/354/polyshp2osm/ > I had the same problem, I had whole city data import and I messed with different tools. Well, result is quite nice actually: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Image:Tartu_osm_osmar

Re: [OSM-talk] Anonymous editing

2009-01-23 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, AJH wrote: >> I'd like to promote the term "untraceable editing" or something >> similar. What we're left with is still anonymous, just that we >> (non-server-admin) people can differentiate between two anonymous >> accounts. We'll still have no idea who they are. > > The big benefits from OS

Re: [OSM-talk] data inconsistence?

2009-01-23 Thread Dirk-Lüder Kreie
Roman Neumüller schrieb: >> Edit the way slightly in potlatch, it'll save the correct version to >> the database. >> This inconsistency sometimes occurs when the server is under high load >> due to the lack of transactions in the current API. >> This should be fixed in API0.6 > > What I really do

Re: [OSM-talk] The Wiki

2009-01-23 Thread Ed Loach
> So if something has been bugging you on the wiki please list > it at > that link. > > What do you think? I wondered if anywhere there was a log of searches that didn't go directly to a page, which might benefit from a redirect (or a page) being created. I couldn't find one. But for ease of use

Re: [OSM-talk] data inconsistence?

2009-01-23 Thread Ed Loach
Dirk wrote: > No. If the data is still different in the 2 editors, go back to > potlatch, use the live edit mode and make a minor modification > to both > Carriageways, and deselect, wait a while before you close > potlatch/the > browser. Then try again in JOSM. I just checked Potlatch and JOSM f

Re: [OSM-talk] Anonymous editing

2009-01-23 Thread Pieren
Looking backward into archives, it seems that only one or two persons are blocking the change... I know one friend who stopped contributing to the project when he saw his work anonymously downgraded and how easy it was. Probably he is not the only one in this case. All arguments have been already

Re: [OSM-talk] When is a bridge not a bridge?

2009-01-23 Thread Sven Rautenberg
Hi there! > im with Mattias here. > if there is air under the way i tag it as bridge, leaving the ramps out. That's what I would do, too. > the layer of the way gives you the hint of the existance or not of ramps. That's not what I'd suggest for the usage of the layer tag! > if the way is "lay

Re: [OSM-talk] The Wiki

2009-01-23 Thread Milenko
> -Original Message- > From: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk- > boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Tom Hughes > Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 4:04 AM > To: SteveC > Cc: Talk Openstreetmap > Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] The Wiki > > SteveC wrote: > > > What I propose is a wiki

Re: [OSM-talk] When is a bridge not a bridge?

2009-01-23 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Friday 23 Jan 2009 6:00:08 pm Sven Rautenberg wrote: > > if the way is "layer=0" and the bridge is "layer=0" too > > (the crossing way under is "layer=-1", digged) > > then the bridge has no ramps. > > Something with negative layer has to be a tunnel. Bridges are useless if > there is a tunnel.

Re: [OSM-talk] The Wiki

2009-01-23 Thread Roman Neumüller
> SteveC wrote: > > It's amazing how the wiki has grown and is really a living place with > a community around it these days, but it's showing some strain. For > example until I fixed it, it was pretty hard for someone typing > 'addressing' to find out about how to do addressing in OSM. Yes I know

Re: [OSM-talk] When is a bridge not a bridge?

2009-01-23 Thread Marc Schütz
> > if the way is "layer=0" and the bridge is "layer=1" there is a ramp. > > A bridge crossing any other way should be always tagged with layer=1 (or > higher). In fact, the renderers could easily take "layer=1" as a default > for bridges, as they are usually on top of something. > > > if the way

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] data release statement

2009-01-23 Thread Stefan Baebler
Hi again! Further investigation shows, that they are already publishing same data (and more) - with freely (as in beer) downloadable localized (Slovenian) version of mapyx [1] - in (payable) Slovenian map packs for mapyx in their store [2] They want to include OSM support in mapyx (in localized v

Re: [OSM-talk] When is a bridge not a bridge?

2009-01-23 Thread Matthias Julius
Kenneth Gonsalves writes: > On Friday 23 Jan 2009 6:00:08 pm Sven Rautenberg wrote: >> > if the way is "layer=0" and the bridge is "layer=0" too >> > (the crossing way under is "layer=-1", digged) >> > then the bridge has no ramps. >> >> Something with negative layer has to be a tunnel. Bridges a

Re: [OSM-talk] When is a bridge not a bridge?

2009-01-23 Thread Andy Allan
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > On Friday 23 Jan 2009 6:00:08 pm Sven Rautenberg wrote: >> > if the way is "layer=0" and the bridge is "layer=0" too >> > (the crossing way under is "layer=-1", digged) >> > then the bridge has no ramps. >> >> Something with negative lay

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Licensing Working Group report, 2009/01/22

2009-01-23 Thread Mikel Maron
Thanks Peter. That's a good summation of the reasoning for an evolving license. And essential questions on the process. That process must be open and engaging. There will be more details next week. Best, Mikel From: Peter Miller To: Licensing and other le

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Licensing Working Group report, 2009/01/22

2009-01-23 Thread Mikel Maron
From: OJ W > On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 9:59 PM, Mikel Maron wrote: > > The license won't be perfect, but there will be a process for feedback and > > improvements, and the license will get there. > > This phraseology sounds very businesslike. I'm sure I've

[OSM-talk] Can not remove a way from a relation

2009-01-23 Thread Gerda og Carsten
I am unable to remove way http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/4596756 from the relation http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/21359 I am thus also unable to delete way 4596756 which is overlapping another way also beeing part of the relation. I am using JOSM and get en error when I tr

Re: [OSM-talk] HowTo : Import from .shp (ESRI) (or convert to .osm )

2009-01-23 Thread Ian Dees
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 6:24 PM, Steven Le Roux wrote: > Hi all, > > I announed some day ago that I could use data from my urban community > (group of city). (if you want a preview of coverage : > > http://applications-internet.brest-metropole-oceane.fr/VIPDU40/aspx/HTDU401.aspx > ) > > After a r

Re: [OSM-talk] Can not remove a way from a relation

2009-01-23 Thread Ed Loach
> Hope to get some advice on how to fix this. I'd be tempted to try using Potlatch. I've just tried in "Practice" mode. There seem to be a strange combination of ways on that stretch (4596756, 4596752 and 25612631 - where 25612631 seems to be longer than the other two put together, but not as far

Re: [OSM-talk] When is a bridge not a bridge?

2009-01-23 Thread Marc Schütz
(Forwarding to list) Am Friday 23 January 2009 17:28:17 schrieben Sie: > As I understood the text of the wiki when I first started, layer 0 is > the general level of the terrain, so levels 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 are above > the ground on successively higher bridges, and -1, -2, -3, -4, and -5 > in successi

Re: [OSM-talk] Anonymous editing

2009-01-23 Thread Dave Stubbs
2009/1/23 Pieren : > Looking backward into archives, it seems that only one or two persons > are blocking the change... > I know one friend who stopped contributing to the project when he saw > his work anonymously downgraded and how easy it was. Probably he is > not the only one in this case. > >

Re: [OSM-talk] Can not remove a way from a relation

2009-01-23 Thread Matthias Julius
Gerda og Carsten writes: > I am unable to remove way http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/4596756 > > from the relation http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/21359 > > I am thus also unable to delete way 4596756 which is overlapping > another way also beeing part of the relation. > > I

Re: [OSM-talk] When is a bridge not a bridge?

2009-01-23 Thread Matthias Julius
Marc Schütz writes: > (Forwarding to list) > > Am Friday 23 January 2009 17:28:17 schrieben Sie: >> As I understood the text of the wiki when I first started, layer 0 is >> the general level of the terrain, so levels 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 are above >> the ground on successively higher bridges, and -1, -2

Re: [OSM-talk] When is a bridge not a bridge?

2009-01-23 Thread sergio sevillano
Marc Schütz escribió: >>> if the way is "layer=0" and the bridge is "layer=1" there is a ramp. >>> >> A bridge crossing any other way should be always tagged with layer=1 (or >> higher). In fact, the renderers could easily take "layer=1" as a default >> for bridges, as they are usually on

[OSM-talk] node vs. area for amenities in wiki templates

2009-01-23 Thread Tobias Knerr
Map Features as well as the info boxes on the individual pages list many "building" amenities (cafe, cinema...) and other usually area-like amenities (grave_yard) as node features, while others (brothel, crematorium...) allow for node or area representation. In some cases, areas are listed as possi

Re: [OSM-talk] Can not remove a way from a relation

2009-01-23 Thread Gerda og Carsten
> > > It might be helpful to know what the error is. The console output of > > JOSM might be interesting, too. > > > > > I have placed Console end error out put here: http://www.toensberg.homeip.net/osm/RelationProblem/JOSMout.txt And a bitmap of the dialog I see can be found here: http://ww

Re: [OSM-talk] When is a bridge not a bridge?

2009-01-23 Thread Matthias Julius
sergio sevillano writes: > i did not meant to tag ramps with layers > just that normal layer usage, gives a hint if there is a ramp > i dont see important to tag ramps but if someone wants to do so > is better to tag the ramp alone "bridge_ramp" instead of the 80n proposal > of tagging all parts

Re: [OSM-talk] node vs. area for amenities in wiki templates

2009-01-23 Thread Matthias Julius
Tobias Knerr writes: > Map Features as well as the info boxes on the individual pages list many > "building" amenities (cafe, cinema...) and other usually area-like > amenities (grave_yard) as node features, while others (brothel, > crematorium...) allow for node or area representation. In some c

[OSM-talk] Deleting way from a relation

2009-01-23 Thread Richard Bullock
> I am unable to remove way http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/4596756 > > from the relation http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/21359 > > I am thus also unable to delete way 4596756 which is overlapping > another way also beeing part of the relation. > > I am using JOSM and get en er

Re: [OSM-talk] Deleting way from a relation

2009-01-23 Thread Matthias Julius
"Richard Bullock" writes: > In JOSM it gave a 412 Precondition Failed response - and didn't delete the > way from the relation. So I opened Potlatch and it deleted it without any > problem. > > I've deleted the duplicate ways - I hope that was what you wanted to do. > Presumably if there are d

Re: [OSM-talk] node vs. area for amenities in wiki templates

2009-01-23 Thread Ulf Lamping
Tobias Knerr schrieb: > Map Features as well as the info boxes on the individual pages list many > "building" amenities (cafe, cinema...) and other usually area-like > amenities (grave_yard) as node features, while others (brothel, > crematorium...) allow for node or area representation. In some ca

Re: [OSM-talk] Deleting way from a relation

2009-01-23 Thread Gerda og Carsten
Richard Bullock skrev: > I've deleted the duplicate ways - I hope that was what you wanted to do. > Thanks, that was exactly what I wanted to do. > Presumably if there are duplicate ways everywhere (and I found 11 duplicates > on top of each other in the UK where the route relation E20 had