[Talk-vi] OpenStreetMap.vn domain

2009-11-29 Thread Khanh Le Ngoc Quoc
Hi all, I've registered http://www.openstreetmap.vn/ domain for 5 years. I would like to donate this domain to OpenStreetMap Vietnam community. Currently the site content is hosted by Google Apps, please tell me if you want Administration account. I'm talking with other active OpenStreetMap

[Talk-hr] 1. mapping party - aftermath

2009-11-29 Thread Dražen Odobašić
Da iznesem nekoliko zaključaka prije srijede, uglavnom... Skinuo sam logove s GPS uređaja, ljepo izgledaju :D, uspio geotaggirati slike uz korištenje 'gpscorrelate', toplo preporučam jer može namjestiti offset u sekundama. JOSM ima jako dobar plugin, AgPifoJ http://is.gd/56UWm, koji omogućava

Re: [OSM-talk] Path vs footway vs cycleway vs...

2009-11-29 Thread Lester Caine
Richard Fairhurst wrote: Steve Bennett wrote: Instinctively, I want to tag it a cycleway...but there's absolutely nothing to justify that. Nowhere will you see any primacy given to cycling over walking. Conundrum. highway=cycleway doesn't mean cycles have priority. It just means it's

Re: [OSM-talk] Path vs footway vs cycleway vs...

2009-11-29 Thread Nop
Hi! Cartinus schrieb: On Sunday 29 November 2009 01:34:19 Nop wrote: 2) AFAIK the only attempt at a neutral display of the different opinions is here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Consolidation_footway_cycleway_path That page is far from neutral, because the only solutions it offers

Re: [OSM-talk] Path vs footway vs cycleway vs...

2009-11-29 Thread Mike Harris
Not to suggest that there is a 'right' or a 'wrong' approach - but merely to note that I (England mostly) - and I believe some others in England and perhaps elsewhere) have a different approach - this is, I stress, what I currently do - and has evolved as a result of my own (limited) experience in

Re: [OSM-talk] Path vs footway vs cycleway vs...

2009-11-29 Thread Steve Bennett
1) Re: connecting paths across small grass areas - don't mark a path where there isn't one, and especially don't do it for the purpose of trying to make routers work better. Map reality - that will always work best in the long term. (just my personal preference) IMHO accessible paths *must*

[OSM-talk] mapping libraries

2009-11-29 Thread Graham Seaman
Hi I have a requirement to provide maps for libraries (buildings with books, not software libraries..), needing to be able to zoom in to shelf level. I wondered about leveraging the osm tools for this, and using an osm mapserver to provide the maps. Possible or mad? Has anyone ever done anything

Re: [OSM-talk] Using osmosis with --bounding-polygon

2009-11-29 Thread Simone Cortesi
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 12:47, David Paleino da...@debian.org wrote: I'm trying to create small dumps following some administrative borders. For example, starting from the Italy planet, I'd like to create dumps of regions and provinces. Here's what I did: a) download the members of the

Re: [OSM-talk] mapping libraries

2009-11-29 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Sunday 29 Nov 2009 5:38:19 pm Graham Seaman wrote: I have a requirement to provide maps for libraries (buildings with books, not software libraries..), needing to be able to zoom in to shelf level. I wondered about leveraging the osm tools for this, and using an osm mapserver to provide the

Re: [OSM-talk] mapping libraries

2009-11-29 Thread Richard Weait
On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 7:09 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org wrote: On Sunday 29 Nov 2009 5:38:19 pm Graham Seaman wrote: I have a requirement to provide maps for libraries (buildings with books, not software libraries..), needing to be able to zoom in to shelf level. I wondered about

Re: [OSM-talk] a painted board with map of the locality (you-are-here)

2009-11-29 Thread vikas yadav
Thank you. 2009/11/29 andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.com 2009/11/29 ヴィカス ヤダヴァ (vikas yadav) mevi...@gmail.com: Is there a POI for boards that are usually at the entrance of residential localities showing the streets/names and plot numbers - like you-are-here ones? I use

Re: [OSM-talk] mapping libraries

2009-11-29 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Sunday 29 Nov 2009 6:17:39 pm Richard Weait wrote: no big deal - zoom level of 22-24 should handle it - although you cannot use a GPS instrument, a measuring tape would do the trick. You will have to decide how to address multi-floor libraries, as OSM does not currently handle this

Re: [OSM-talk] Using osmosis with --bounding-polygon

2009-11-29 Thread David Paleino
Simone Cortesi wrote: On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 12:47, David Paleino da...@debian.org wrote: I'm trying to create small dumps following some administrative borders. For example, starting from the Italy planet, I'd like to create dumps of regions and provinces. Here's what I did: [..]

Re: [OSM-talk] Path vs footway vs cycleway vs...

2009-11-29 Thread Mike Harris
Btw - no need for highway=grass, why not use highway=path (or =footway, see previous message) + surface=grass (which seems well-established). Mike Harris -Original Message- From: Anthony [mailto:o...@inbox.org] Sent: 29 November 2009 04:30 To: Roy Wallace Cc:

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping everything as areas

2009-11-29 Thread Steve Bennett
On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 1:25 AM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: The whole point of using an area is that it doesn't behave like a line, though.  If all you have is a line with a width, use a line with a width tag. Is it? Perhaps I missed the start of the conversation. I had presumed the whole

Re: [OSM-talk] Path vs footway vs cycleway vs...

2009-11-29 Thread Anthony
On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 9:13 AM, Mike Harris mik...@googlemail.com wrote: Btw - no need for highway=grass, why not use highway=path (or =footway, see previous message) + surface=grass (which seems well-established). I was just proposing a compromise. I don't care what the tags are so long as

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping everything as areas

2009-11-29 Thread Anthony
On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 9:29 AM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 1:25 AM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: The whole point of using an area is that it doesn't behave like a line, though.  If all you have is a line with a width, use a line with a width tag. Is

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping everything as areas

2009-11-29 Thread John Smith
A thought occurred to me, that people are only planning to use areas because editors don't easily allow for widths to be entered graphically. I wonder how much work it would be if you could draw the way and then stretch it sideways to fill out the extact area you wanted covered and then the

Re: [OSM-talk] Path vs footway vs cycleway vs...

2009-11-29 Thread Cartinus
On Sunday 29 November 2009 09:31:27 Nop wrote: It is an attempt. If you find something missing or have another suggestion for a solution, why don't you add it? Because I am not allowed to. The page starts with stating that if you don't agree with the problem, then you are not allowed to

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping everything as areas

2009-11-29 Thread Teemu Koskinen
On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 19:03:46 +0200, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: A thought occurred to me, that people are only planning to use areas because editors don't easily allow for widths to be entered graphically. I wonder how much work it would be if you could draw the way and

Re: [OSM-talk] Path vs footway vs cycleway vs...

2009-11-29 Thread Cartinus
On Sunday 29 November 2009 19:37:08 Nop wrote: Hi! Cartinus schrieb: I am of the opinion that the old fuzzy definitions weren't a problem at all and the path tag should only be used for things that really don't fit in them. (Like the snowmobile trail.) I guess you are right. Adding a

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping everything as areas

2009-11-29 Thread Anthony
On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Teemu Koskinen teemu.koski...@mbnet.fi wrote: With areas you can explicitly map how neighboring ways are connected to each other, this is useful for sidewalks, lanes etc. If we were to map the ways with only simple way with a width, a relation would be needed to

[OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - maxheight:legal

2009-11-29 Thread Aun Johnsen
Ok, we are on it again, the previous vote (that approved maxheight:physical) is way past, and some discussion have passed on maxheight:legal. I think it is time to put the biasing from the previous proposal and vote aside, and look on this with a clearer mind. In my opinion, the aproval of

Re: [OSM-talk] mapping libraries

2009-11-29 Thread Graham Seaman
Richard Weait wrote: On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 7:09 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org wrote: On Sunday 29 Nov 2009 5:38:19 pm Graham Seaman wrote: I have a requirement to provide maps for libraries (buildings with books, not software libraries..), needing to be able to zoom in to

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - maxheight:legal

2009-11-29 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 29 Nov 2009, at 19:27, Aun Johnsen wrote: Ok, we are on it again, the previous vote (that approved maxheight:physical) is way past, and some discussion have passed on maxheight:legal. I think it is time to put the biasing from the previous proposal and vote aside, and look on this

Re: [OSM-talk] Path vs footway vs cycleway vs...

2009-11-29 Thread Nop
Hi! Cartinus schrieb: If you negate the existence of a problem that has been widely confirmed, you're not likely to contribute to a solution. Except that I am far from alone with my opinion. See e.g. Richards explanation somewhere at the start of this thread and the widespread

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping everything as areas

2009-11-29 Thread Roy Wallace
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 5:27 AM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: Without good editor support, mapping highways as areas is already quite cumbersome. It's not so bad, for areas with good aerial imagery (I wouldn't call tracing cumbersome). And yes, not everywhere has good aerial imagery, but then

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping everything as areas

2009-11-29 Thread Roy Wallace
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 3:03 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: A thought occurred to me, that people are only planning to use areas because editors don't easily allow for widths to be entered graphically. To some extent, perhaps... but the real reason is because the inherent

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping everything as areas

2009-11-29 Thread Anthony
On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 4:56 PM, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 5:27 AM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: Without good editor support, mapping highways as areas is already quite cumbersome. It's not so bad, for areas with good aerial imagery (I wouldn't call

Re: [OSM-talk] Path vs footway vs cycleway vs...

2009-11-29 Thread Steve Bennett
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 8:53 AM, Nop ekkeh...@gmx.de wrote: EVERY contradictory interpretation has a substantial number of followers - that IS the problem. Richards view works only in the UK and fails terribly in Germany and other countries. But sorry, I really am fed up with the pointless

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping everything as areas

2009-11-29 Thread Steve Bennett
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 9:00 AM, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: Nice idea, BUT then you are limited to a series of rectangles. In some situations, I think that will be too restrictive for not much gain. A series of quadrilaterals, perhaps. If width=10, then 50 metres later, width =15,

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping everything as areas

2009-11-29 Thread Roy Wallace
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 8:29 AM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: Nice idea, BUT then you are limited to a series of rectangles. In some situations, I think that will be too restrictive for not much gain. A series of quadrilaterals, perhaps. If width=10, then 50 metres later, width

[OSM-talk] How to tag properties

2009-11-29 Thread Steve Bennett
I have a couple of recurrent scenarios: 1) After tagging a building, I want to define the property boundary that the building sits in. In some cases, there's a landuse tag (landuse=commercial, residential), but how to tag a non-profit bowling club, a school, ...? Do you simply tag it

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping everything as areas

2009-11-29 Thread Steve Bennett
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: interpolation. But approximation with trapezoids or whatever is a bit fudgye.g. what if you *do* want to represent an instantaneous change in width? I can think of several options, and I'm sure you can too :) My

Re: [OSM-talk] Path vs footway vs cycleway vs...

2009-11-29 Thread Cartinus
On Sunday 29 November 2009 23:10:15 Steve Bennett wrote: Before you go, do you think there is potential at least to have consistency within each country? I'm not the one that leaves, but the answer would be yes. It's fairly simple to put foot=no on all cycleways in what is probably the only

Re: [OSM-talk] Path vs footway vs cycleway vs...

2009-11-29 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Cartinus wrote: It's fairly simple to put foot=no on all cycleways in what is probably the only country with rules for cycleways that are so strict. Indeed. The often mentioned German paths with a white line in the middle (that separates cyclists and pedestrians) could have been done with

Re: [OSM-talk] Path vs footway vs cycleway vs...

2009-11-29 Thread Cartinus
On Sunday 29 November 2009 22:53:58 Nop wrote: Richards view works only in the UK and fails terribly in Germany and other countries. Richards view works in a lot more countries than the UK. You can see it even works in Germany by just looking at how Germany is currently mapped. Fuzzy logic is

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping everything as areas

2009-11-29 Thread Roy Wallace
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: interpolation. But approximation with trapezoids or whatever is a bit fudgye.g. what if you *do* want to represent an instantaneous change

Re: [OSM-talk] Path vs footway vs cycleway vs...

2009-11-29 Thread Steve Bennett
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: Cartinus wrote: It's fairly simple to put foot=no on all cycleways in what is probably the only country with rules for cycleways that are so strict. Indeed. Yeah, but from the point of view of a resident of that

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping everything as areas

2009-11-29 Thread Michal Migurski
On Nov 29, 2009, at 5:01 PM, Roy Wallace wrote: From the point of view of a map, a road really is a line...that happens to have some width and shape. Mapping it as an area makes it primarily a chunk of asphalt...that you happen to be able to drive along to get somewhere. Hmm...I think these

[OSM-talk] MapMaker competitions

2009-11-29 Thread Mikel Maron
Google are resorting to bribes to improve their map http://maps.google.com/help/mapmaker/competitions/ We can respond. How about a global OSM competition during the same time? We can raise funds to fly top contributors to SOTM next year. == Mikel Maron == http://mapkibera.org/ +254 (0)

Re: [OSM-talk] Path vs footway vs cycleway vs...

2009-11-29 Thread Nop
Hi! Cartinus schrieb: On Sunday 29 November 2009 22:53:58 Nop wrote: Richards view works only in the UK and fails terribly in Germany and other countries. Richards view works in a lot more countries than the UK. You can see it even works in Germany by just looking at how Germany is

Re: [OSM-talk] Path vs footway vs cycleway vs...

2009-11-29 Thread Nop
Hi! Steve Bennett schrieb: Before you go, do you think there is potential at least to have consistency within each country? It would be possible to solve the problem for each country. It would also be possible to solve the problem generically for the whole planet. The real problem is

Re: [OSM-talk] Path vs footway vs cycleway vs...

2009-11-29 Thread Cartinus
On Monday 30 November 2009 08:29:22 Nop wrote: Let me apply your logic to a different use case. Just imagine that in my country there is a law that generally allows bicycles to use a one-way road in both directions. So I would define one-way as mainly or exclusively intended for use in one

[OSM-talk-nl] onverwachte rendering

2009-11-29 Thread Jan Vlug
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi list, Vandaag heb ik een paar wijzigingen gemaakt in OSM, maar de rendering lijkt inconsistent: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=52.000567lon=4.339558zoom=18layers=B000FTF hoewel een deel van de Molenweide de tag highway=living_street heeft wordt

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] onverwachte rendering

2009-11-29 Thread Andre Engels
2009/11/29 Jan Vlug jan.pub...@famvlug.nl: Hi list, Vandaag heb ik een paar wijzigingen gemaakt in OSM, maar de rendering lijkt inconsistent: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=52.000567lon=4.339558zoom=18layers=B000FTF hoewel een deel van de Molenweide de tag highway=living_street heeft

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] onverwachte rendering

2009-11-29 Thread Andre Engels
2009/11/29 Andre Engels andreeng...@gmail.com: 2009/11/29 Jan Vlug jan.pub...@famvlug.nl: Hi list, Vandaag heb ik een paar wijzigingen gemaakt in OSM, maar de rendering lijkt inconsistent: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=52.000567lon=4.339558zoom=18layers=B000FTF hoewel een deel van de

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] onverwachte rendering

2009-11-29 Thread Jan Vlug
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/29/2009 07:49 PM, Andre Engels wrote: 2009/11/29 Andre Engels andreeng...@gmail.com: 2009/11/29 Jan Vlug jan.pub...@famvlug.nl: Hi list, Vandaag heb ik een paar wijzigingen gemaakt in OSM, maar de rendering lijkt inconsistent:

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] onverwachte rendering

2009-11-29 Thread Andre Engels
2009/11/29 Jan Vlug jan.pub...@famvlug.nl: hoe lang duurt het ongeveer voordat tiles opnieuw gerenderd zijn? Ik heb de wijzigingen vanmiddag al gemaakt... Meestal binnen een paar uur, maar het kan ook maarzo een week duren. Er schijnt een trucje te zijn om een tile als 'dirty' te melden,

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] onverwachte rendering

2009-11-29 Thread Andre Engels
2009/11/29 Andre Engels andreeng...@gmail.com: 2009/11/29 Jan Vlug jan.pub...@famvlug.nl: hoe lang duurt het ongeveer voordat tiles opnieuw gerenderd zijn? Ik heb de wijzigingen vanmiddag al gemaakt... Meestal binnen een paar uur, maar het kan ook maarzo een week duren. Er schijnt een

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] onverwachte rendering

2009-11-29 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 We moeten eigenlijk gewoon een 'render' toets maken. Lost veel meer problemen op. Stefan -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.13 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] onverwachte rendering

2009-11-29 Thread Cartinus
On Sunday 29 November 2009 20:13:19 Andre Engels wrote: En inderdaad, op http://maxspeed.openstreetmap.nl/?lat=52.000567lon=4.339558zoom=18layers =B000FTF Als je de onderstaande URL gebruikt kun je bovendien de maxspeed overlay aan en uitzetten.

[talk-au] Questions following recent trip

2009-11-29 Thread Mark Pulley
I have a few questions following my recent holidays - drive from Bathurst to Melbourne and back with a few side tracks including Mount Bogong (a long walk up), and to the previously unmapped Flinders Island (I'm working on this first - http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-40lon=148zoom=10 ).

Re: [talk-au] Questions following recent trip

2009-11-29 Thread Andrew Gregory
On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 20:11:04 +0800, Mark Pulley mrpul...@lizzy.com.au wrote: I have a few questions following my recent holidays - drive from Bathurst to Melbourne and back with a few side tracks including Mount Bogong (a long walk up), and to the previously unmapped Flinders Island (I'm

Re: [Talk-de] Temporäre Ereignisse OSM

2009-11-29 Thread Peter
Als temporäre Ereignisse verstehe ich Ereignisse, welche entweder einen klaren End-Zeitpunkt haben oder ein End-Zeitpunkt nicht feststeht, aber dieser zu erwarten ist. Aus verkehrlicher Sicht sind das z.B. (kleiner Auszug) - Baustellen, Sperren, Unfälle, Verkehrszustände, Ausfälle (ÖV),

Re: [Talk-de] OSM als Abmahnverein

2009-11-29 Thread Norbert Kück
Hallo Markus, am 29.11.2009 13:12 schrieb Markus: Und wir brauchen eine Hilfe-Seite, auf der Anwender ein HowTo mit konkreten Anwendungsbeispielen finden, wie sie wann und wo auf eine nette Art über die Datenherkunft informieren können. Nach meiner Erfahrung machen das alle herzlich gern,

[Talk-de] Mapnik - living streets

2009-11-29 Thread Rainer Knaepper
Moin moin, living streets, insbesondere in modernen Neubausiedlungen, sind oft sehr eng und kurvig und verwuselt gebaut. Mapnik rendert die aber anscheinend genauso fett wie residentials. In manchen Zoom-Stufen ergibt das eine sehr unübersichtliche Darstellung. Die Farbgebung mittelgrau auf

Re: [Talk-de] Temporäre Ereignisse OSM

2009-11-29 Thread André Reichelt
Peter schrieb: anderen Referenzsystemen, wie TMC Hallo, ich wollte nur kurz darauf hinweisen, dass bereits ein Projekt läuft, dass diese TMC-Referenzdatan in unsere Datenbank einpflegt. Diese wurden uns scheinbar vor kurzem zur Verwendung überlassen. Ich finde es im Übrigen immer sehr löblich,

Re: [Talk-de] 3D-Objekte aus Umgebungsbildern

2009-11-29 Thread André Reichelt
Markus schrieb: Rostock und Warnemünde liegen bereits in D3 vor: Hallo, das sind ja bisher nur Umrisse, die mit einer (meist nicht vorhandenen) Höheninformation gerendert werden. Ich bezog mich auf detaillierte Modelle, die auch texturiert sind, um so etwas ähnliches wie bei Microsoft Maps in

Re: [Talk-de] OSM als Abmahnverein

2009-11-29 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hallo, André Reichelt wrote: ich frage mich generell, welche Berechtigung eine Privatperson sieht, hier mit einer Klage zu drohen. So etwas sollte ausschließlich von einer dafür geschaffenen Arbeitsgruppe gemacht werden _dürfen_. In dem konkreten Fall bin ich zwar auch der Meinung, dass das

Re: [Talk-de] Mapnik - living streets

2009-11-29 Thread Lennard
Rainer Knaepper wrote: Könnte man die nicht schlicht auf die Breite und Farbgebung von parking_aisle umstellen? Dann sähe man gleich, daß es dort eng zugeht, aber trotzdem Autos hindurchpassen und auch hindurch dürfen. Oder man macht eine Zwischenstufe zwischen residential und parking_aisle?

Re: [Talk-de] Mapnik - living streets

2009-11-29 Thread Mirko Küster
living streets, insbesondere in modernen Neubausiedlungen, sind oft sehr eng und kurvig und verwuselt gebaut. Bei dir in deiner Umgebung mag das so sein. Hier ist aber beispielsweise ein ganzer Platz wo Markt usw. stattfindet samt Zufahrtsstraßen als Spielstraße ausgeschildert. Mapnik

Re: [Talk-de] OSM als Abmahnverein

2009-11-29 Thread Michael Buege
Zitat Frederik Ramm: [...] Ich wuerde eine Liste von Textbausteinen im Wiki sehr begruessen, so dass sich Leute, die im Formulieren unerfahren sind, nicht im Ton vergreifen. Stichworte: * wir freuen uns, dass Sie OSM benutzen * sicher haben Sie nur uebersehen, dass... * wir machen das

Re: [Talk-de] OSM als Abmahnverein

2009-11-29 Thread Michael Buege
Zitat Markus: In Wikipedia gibt es eine grosse Gruppe, die nichts anderes tut, als Fehler zu entdecken und Artikel zur Löschung anzuprangern. Die machen das als Sport: wer hat die meisten Abschüsse Dadurch werden tausende Autoren vor den Kopf gestossen und verloren. Der Schaden ist

Re: [Talk-de] Temporäre Ereignisse OSM

2009-11-29 Thread Michael Buege
Zitat Peter: [Masterarbeit/ temporäre Ereignisse in OSM] [...] Da ich mich aus gegebenen Anlass fuer solche Loesungen interessiere, aber so gut wie gar nichts zu ihrer Umsetzung beitragen kann, hier nur ein kleiner Hinweis: Anfang August gab es hierzulist eine Diskussion mit dem Betreff:

Re: [Talk-de] OSM als Abmahnverein

2009-11-29 Thread Markus
Hallo Norbert, Es ist ein Wiki. Ich fühle mich zu diesem Thema nicht kompetent. Wenn ich entscheiden müsste, würde ich den ganzen Lizenzkram weglassen und nur schreiben: Openstreetmap oder Openstreetmap.org oder Openstreetmap.org - die freie Weltkarte oder

Re: [Talk-de] OSM als Abmahnverein

2009-11-29 Thread Ulf Möller
André Reichelt schrieb: ich frage mich generell, welche Berechtigung eine Privatperson sieht, hier mit einer Klage zu drohen. So etwas sollte ausschließlich von einer dafür geschaffenen Arbeitsgruppe gemacht werden _dürfen_. Mit der ODbL wäre das so. Gemäß CC-BY-SA kann tatsächlich jede

Re: [Talk-de] Temporäre Ereignisse OSM

2009-11-29 Thread Peter
On Sun, 2009-11-29 at 14:30 +0100, André Reichelt wrote: Peter schrieb: anderen Referenzsystemen, wie TMC Hallo, ich wollte nur kurz darauf hinweisen, dass bereits ein Projekt läuft, dass diese TMC-Referenzdatan in unsere Datenbank einpflegt. Diese wurden uns scheinbar vor kurzem zur

Re: [Talk-de] OSM als Abmahnverein

2009-11-29 Thread Christian Schmitt
Hallo Michael, dieses Anschreiben ist kaum zu toppen. Es enthält alle nötigen Infos verständlich auf den Punkt gebracht, ist in einem sehr freundlichen Ton gehalten und transportiert dennoch die notwendige Verbindlichkeit der Angelegenheit. Ich plädiere dafür es an entsprechender Stelle im

Re: [Talk-de] OSM als Abmahnverein

2009-11-29 Thread Norbert Kück
Hallo Markus, am 29.11.2009 15:56 schrieb Markus: Es ist ein Wiki. Ich fühle mich zu diesem Thema nicht kompetent. Die Lizenzdiskussionen habe ich inhaltlich noch nie verstanden. Oh, da haben wir uns wohl missverstanden. Eigentlich geht es doch nicht um komplizierten Lizenzkram. Ich

[Talk-de] Ortsteilname oder Ort bei addr:city

2009-11-29 Thread Jan Tappenbeck
Moin ! die meisten kennen Travemünde. Bei der DP-PLZ-Suche kommt aber bei Travemünde Ort: Lübeck Ortsteil: Travemünde Was trage ich nun bei addr:city ein? Gruß Jan :-) ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-de] Ortsteilname oder Ort bei addr:city

2009-11-29 Thread Chris-Hein Lunkhusen
Jan Tappenbeck schrieb: die meisten kennen Travemünde. Vom Hörensagen... :-) Bei der DP-PLZ-Suche kommt aber bei Travemünde Ort: Lübeck Ortsteil: Travemünde Was trage ich nun bei addr:city ein? Das Problem habe ich auch. Laut Wiki soll die Postalische Anschrift da rein. Oft wird

Re: [Talk-de] OSM als Abmahnverein

2009-11-29 Thread Bartosz Fabianowski
Bevor es im Wiki landet hier noch ein paar sprachliche Korrekturen. Gruß, - Bartosz - Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren - Auf einem Spaziergang durch Hamburg stieß ich auf einen Aushang, auf dem Ihr Unternehmen sehr ausführlich

Re: [Talk-de] Ortsteilname oder Ort bei addr:city

2009-11-29 Thread Jan Tappenbeck
Chris-Hein Lunkhusen schrieb: Jan Tappenbeck schrieb: die meisten kennen Travemünde. Vom Hörensagen... :-) Bei der DP-PLZ-Suche kommt aber bei Travemünde Ort: Lübeck Ortsteil: Travemünde Was trage ich nun bei addr:city ein? Das Problem habe ich auch. Laut Wiki soll die

Re: [Talk-de] Alevitische Gemeinde

2009-11-29 Thread Mark Obrembalski
malenki wrote: kann mir einer sagen welche Tags für Alevitische [1] Gemeinden zu setzen sind. Anbetungsstätten gibt es bereits, Falls es sich um eine solche handelt. Es gibt ja auch noch Gebäude, die dem allgemeinen sozialen Leben oder der Verwaltung der Gemeinde dienen. (Christliche)

Re: [Talk-de] Mapnik - living streets

2009-11-29 Thread Rainer Knaepper
Moin Mirko, Breite und Farbgebung von parking_aisle bei realen 20 m Breite wieder total unterrepräsentiert dargestellt werden würde. da haben wir eigentlich wieder das Problem: taggen als Fläache oder als Strich in der Landschaft. Rainer -- ___

Re: [Talk-de] Mapnik - living streets

2009-11-29 Thread Mirko Küster
da haben wir eigentlich wieder das Problem: taggen als Fläache oder als Strich in der Landschaft. Das ist in dem Fall kein ansich kein Problem, da wir ja den Kompromiss haben, dass diese Straßen gleich zu anderen Wohnstraßen behandelt werden. Der einzig signifikante Unterschied zwischen

Re: [Talk-de] OSM als Abmahnverein

2009-11-29 Thread Karl Eichwalder
Bartosz Fabianowski bart...@fabianowski.eu writes: Bevor es im Wiki landet hier noch ein paar sprachliche Korrekturen. Das ist viel zu lang. Dieses Floskelgewaesch (wir freuen uns etc.) kann man getrost den Politern und Managern ueberlassen. Ausserdem sollte man schon formulieren, dass man

Re: [Talk-de] OSM als Abmahnverein

2009-11-29 Thread Stefan Dettenhofer (StefanDausR)
Hallo, eigentlich sollte man darüber lachen, auf der anderen Seite ist es auch traurig: Frederik Ramm schrieb: Das ist leider ein Problem, das hier bei uns zu grassieren scheint. Im Wiki gibt es eine immer laenger werdende Liste von angeblichen Lizenzverletzern - zum Teil reichte es schon,

Re: [Talk-de] Mapnik - living streets

2009-11-29 Thread Norbert Wenzel
Rainer Knaepper wrote: Die Farbgebung mittelgrau auf hellgrau in Wohngebieten trägt auch nicht gerade zur guten Erkennbarkeit bei. Ich bin der Meinung, dass die Farbgebung als Feature zu betrachten ist. Insbesondere in höheren Zoomstufen ist der Unterschied zwischen den Grautönen fast nicht zu

Re: [Talk-in] Flats

2009-11-29 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Sunday 29 Nov 2009 1:53:31 pm Jayant Murthy wrote: Is there an approved way to put in flats? I see that someone has put one in as Landuse: residential or there is also an address tag? karlsruhe scheme -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Senior Project Officer NRC-FOSS

Re: [Talk-in] National highways

2009-11-29 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Sunday 29 Nov 2009 1:51:21 pm Jayant Murthy wrote: How does one know where National highways route in cities? I know that NH4 comes in on Tumkur Rd. in Bangalore and then goes out on Old Madras Rd. but how do they connect? national highways are a controversial subject in India. Map em

Re: [Talk-in] National highways

2009-11-29 Thread PlaneMad
in most towns the nh city roads still have milestones with the nh number and it pretty easy to see the pattern since it is usually one single road that runs right through, bangalore though is an exception, everything here is a big mess and i really cant see any hierarchy of roads. in the case of

Re: [Talk-in] shops on our server

2009-11-29 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Sunday 29 Nov 2009 5:47:02 pm Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: hi, mapnik as of now does not render the shop tag, although osmarender does. The osmarender symbols are here: http://svn.openstreetmap.org/applications/share/map-icons/svg/shopping/ they are in svg format - mapnik requires png.

Re: [Talk-in] shops on our server

2009-11-29 Thread H.S.Rai
On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 5:47 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org wrote: http://svn.openstreetmap.org/applications/share/map-icons/svg/shopping/ they are in svg format - mapnik requires png. http://svn.openstreetmap.org/applications/share/map-icons/classic.small/shop/ -- H.S.Rai

[Talk-in] [OT] OSMaps

2009-11-29 Thread H.S.Rai
Does anybody tried to purchase OSM (Open Series Map) from SoI. Can share his / her experience or information about level of openness / restrictions. In the 1st link below, I could not get sense of scale, if they are selling in vector format. http://www.surveyofindia.gov.in/osm/osm.html

Re: [Talk-it] Stradario Regione Lombardia

2009-11-29 Thread Simone Cortesi
2009/11/27 Carlo Stemberger carlo.stember...@gmail.com: Pazzesco quanto è simile! Comunque oltre che a Mapnik si sono ispirati anche a GMaps: il mio paese contiene esattamente gli stessi strafalcioni di Google (una via che in realtà non esiste, nomi di 3 vie posizionati in modo sbagliato).

Re: [Talk-it] Stradario Regione Lombardia

2009-11-29 Thread Stefano Pedretti
TA ha venduto un sistema di rendering alla regione in cambio di qualcosa. non vedo altre soluzioni. Se così fosse, vista la nostra autorizzazione, possiamo utilizzare i dati TeleAtlas della Lombardia in OSM? Direi che è il caso di sciogliere il nodo legale... -- -S

Re: [Talk-it] Stradario Regione Lombardia

2009-11-29 Thread Federico Cozzi
2009/11/29 Stefano Pedretti stefano.pedre...@gmail.com: Se così fosse, vista la nostra autorizzazione, possiamo utilizzare i dati TeleAtlas della Lombardia in OSM? Direi che è il caso di sciogliere il nodo legale... La nostra autorizzazione copre dati e informazioni cartografiche e

Re: [Talk-it] Stradario Regione Lombardia

2009-11-29 Thread Simone Cortesi
2009/11/29 Stefano Pedretti stefano.pedre...@gmail.com: TA ha venduto un sistema di rendering alla regione in cambio di qualcosa. non vedo altre soluzioni. Se così fosse, vista la nostra autorizzazione, possiamo utilizzare i dati TeleAtlas della Lombardia in OSM? Direi che è il caso di

Re: [Talk-it] signpost= ?

2009-11-29 Thread Alberto Nogaro
-Original Message- From: talk-it-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-it- boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of niubii Sent: lunedì 23 novembre 2009 14.58 To: openstreetmap list - italiano Subject: Re: [Talk-it] signpost= ? Io verificherei solo lo stato d'uso di highway=milestone, che

Re: [Talk-it] Stradario Regione Lombardia

2009-11-29 Thread Luca Brivio
In data domenica 29 novembre 2009 12:21:57, Simone Cortesi ha scritto: TA ha venduto un sistema di rendering alla regione in cambio di qualcosa. non vedo altre soluzioni. TeleAtlas non potrebbe aver avuto i dati in licenza da qualcuno da cui, direttamente o per altre vie, si serve/si è servita

Re: [Talk-it] Portale wiki

2009-11-29 Thread albertobonati
Allora, ho pensato che la pagina WikiProject_Italy/Tipologie è lì proprio per questo motivo: per riportare tutte le tipologie di mappe che sono state derivate dai dati di OSM. Ho messo lì il tuo link alla mappa per l'equitazione (1). Non ti preoccupare per il layout, appena ho tempo

Re: [Talk-dk] Forslag til retningslinjer for cykelstier

2009-11-29 Thread Niels Beck
Hej! Jeg har sagt Ok til at fjerne mine cykelstier Hvorfor er det så egentlig lige at det er mine cykelstier der skal fjernes? Hvad med de andre byer i Danmark som har anvndt highway-cycleway? er det kun København? Hvad med Nørrebro der er forsynet med lanes, men hvor det ikke er realiteten? Jeg

Re: [Talk-dk] Forslag til retningslinjer for cykelstier

2009-11-29 Thread Johnny Rose Carlsen
Hej Niels, Sikke en masse tekst, og ikke en eneste besvarelse på nogle af mine spørgsmål! Medmindre du begynder at besvare spørgsmål, så kan jeg ikke se nogle pointe i at tale videre med dig. - Johnny Niels Beck nielsb...@gmail.com wrote: Hej! Jeg har sagt Ok til at fjerne mine cykelstier

Re: [Talk-dk] Forslag til retningslinjer for cykelstier

2009-11-29 Thread Freek
On Saturday 28 November 2009, Johnny Rose Carlsen wrote: [...] Faktisk vil jeg gerne vide hvilke fordele dit system har i ganske almindelige kryds som ved Vigerslevvej/Gl. Køge Landevej [1], fremfor det tidligere system hvor vejene bare var tagget cycleway=track. Interesting situation... I

[Talk-es] Estadísticas

2009-11-29 Thread Mikel Lizarralde
Buenas, hay algún sitio en el que se va guardando un histórico de número de usuarios registrados en OSM? Aquí hay info actual http://www.openstreetmap.org/stats/data_stats.html Y en la wikipedia también aparecen datos de momentos puntuales de 2007 (julio de 2007), agosto de 2008 y marzo de

Re: [Talk-es] Estadísticas

2009-11-29 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Lunes, 30 de Noviembre de 2009, Mikel Lizarralde escribió: hay algún sitio en el que se va guardando un histórico de número de usuarios registrados en OSM? Siempre puedes utilizar la gráfica de http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Stats Además, quien la lleva es Andy Robinson Blackadder, o

Re: [Talk-es] Estadísticas

2009-11-29 Thread Mikel Lizarralde
Cojonudo! Gracias, más que suficiente. Mikel 2009/11/30 Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@sanchezortega.es El Lunes, 30 de Noviembre de 2009, Mikel Lizarralde escribió: hay algún sitio en el que se va guardando un histórico de número de usuarios registrados en OSM? Siempre puedes utilizar la

[Talk-ar] mapas ruteables de OSM para gps Garmin

2009-11-29 Thread Fabian Alejandro
probaron estos mapas? http://garmin.na1400.info/routable.php son ruteables, yo lo probé en el Garmin Mobile PC y anda muy bien. Hay que entrar en la pagina, se bajan los *.IMG y con http://cgpsmapper.com/download/sendmap20.zip crean el GMAPSUPP.IMG para el gps, que es ruteable. Ahora falta ver

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