Re: [talk-ph] UN-SPIDER is using OSM data

2010-06-16 Thread maning sambale
I compared the road data from NAMRIA and OSM and Google MapMaker: http://www.flickr.com/photos/esambale/sets/72157624161537611/ On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Marloue Pidor mur...@mail2engineer.com wrote: Oops, typo error You do? That's nice. -Original Message- From: maning

Re: [talk-ph] UN-SPIDER is using OSM data

2010-06-16 Thread Ronny Ager-Wick
what about between OSM and MapMaker? would be interesting to see how they compare. maning sambale wrote: I compared the road data from NAMRIA and OSM and Google MapMaker: http://www.flickr.com/photos/esambale/sets/72157624161537611/ On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Marloue Pidor

Re: [talk-ph] UN-SPIDER is using OSM data

2010-06-16 Thread maning sambale
On my list. :) On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Ronny Ager-Wick r...@develo.ltd.uk wrote: what about between OSM and MapMaker? would be interesting to see how they compare. maning sambale wrote: I compared the road data from NAMRIA and OSM and Google MapMaker:

[talk-ph] SLEx Star Toll link

2010-06-16 Thread Andre Marcelo-Tanner
Really its done? nice I just drove by here today on my way to batangas, too bad you couldnt drive down it, maybe perhaps if you had a motorcycle you could get past the barriers and zoom down it and back before anyone catches you :) ___ talk-ph

Re: [talk-ph] UN-SPIDER is using OSM data

2010-06-16 Thread maning sambale
quarter grid road density comparison of osm and g's mapmaker. http://maker.geocommons.com/maps/17156 Interpretation later. For now, go figure. :) On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Ronny Ager-Wick r...@develo.ltd.uk wrote: what about between OSM and MapMaker? would be interesting to see how

[talk-ph] Wolfram|Alpha is using OSM data

2010-06-16 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
Hi guys, As mentioned on the main OSM mailing list, Wolfram|Alpha (that cool computational-not-search engine) uses OSM data for showing overview maps of places on earth. Here's Manila: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=manila(scroll down a bit to see the map). You can even choose various scale

[OSM-talk-be] This week in OSM mailing lists (June 9 - 16)

2010-06-16 Thread Ben Laenen
Hi all, Another week, another summary. Not a lot of interesting discussions in talk@ this week, but luckily we still have tagg...@... Greetings Ben * OSM in WolframAlpha WolframAlpha now displays an OSM map when you ask information of a city http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=Brussels

Re: [OSM-talk] Q: Is OSM interested in neighborhood and regional boundaries for L.A.?

2010-06-16 Thread Steve Bennett
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 1:28 PM, Ben Welsh ben.we...@gmail.com wrote: Long story short: I'm curious whether our boundaries might have a home in the OSM database. I don't know a ton about the project, but I've always IMHO they might be useful, on the basis that they're not just any old informal

Re: [OSM-talk] openstreetmap.org up

2010-06-16 Thread Mike Collinson
Thank you, Tom and anyone else involved in working on this. Much appreciated as always. And, to quote, Richard Weait, http://donate.openstreetmap.org/;. Mike At 06:44 PM 15/06/2010, Grant Slater wrote: OSM Talk, Website and API is now up and running again after earlier issues. Happy mapping.

[OSM-talk] Outline of island does not change

2010-06-16 Thread Bernhard R. Fischer
Hi! More than one month ago I tracked a small harbor in Croatia (Lucina, Dugi Otok) and edited and uploaded the new map data using Josm. Nevertheless, if I look at the map using the OSM online viewer the new outline of the island is not rendered. It still shows the old imprecise one. What is

[OSM-talk] Search index not updated?

2010-06-16 Thread Bernhard R. Fischer
Hi! Several months ago I added some farms (place=farm) in my region. I also added names (name=... + place_name=...) as well as addresses using the addr:*= scheme. I also added roads with names. Nevertheless, if I try to find them by using the search bar of the OSM online viewer they do not

Re: [OSM-talk] Outline of island does not change

2010-06-16 Thread Dan Karran
On 16 June 2010 07:48, Bernhard R. Fischer b...@abenteuerland.at wrote: More than one month ago I tracked a small harbor in Croatia (Lucina, Dugi Otok) and edited and uploaded the new map data using Josm. Nevertheless, if I look at the map using the OSM online viewer the new outline of the

Re: [OSM-talk] Search index not updated?

2010-06-16 Thread Dan Karran
On 16 June 2010 08:15, Bernhard R. Fischer b...@abenteuerland.at wrote: Several months ago I added some farms (place=farm) in my region. I also added names (name=... + place_name=...) as well as addresses using the addr:*= scheme. I also added roads with names. Nevertheless, if I try to find

Re: [OSM-talk] Search index not updated?

2010-06-16 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/6/16 Bernhard R. Fischer b...@abenteuerland.at: Hi! Several months ago I added some farms (place=farm) in my region. I also added names (name=... + place_name=...) as well as addresses using the addr:*= You might also want to look at place=isolated_dwelling (and probably a subtag for

Re: [OSM-talk] Q: Is OSM interested in neighborhood and r egional boundaries for L.A.?

2010-06-16 Thread Ed Avis
A compromose would be to add the centre of each neighbourhood (as locality=place or similar) but not the exact boundaries. -- Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Q: Is OSM interested in neighborhood and regional boundaries for L.A.?

2010-06-16 Thread John Smith
On 16 June 2010 18:46, Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com wrote: A compromose would be to add the centre of each neighbourhood (as locality=place or similar) but not the exact boundaries. That doesn't tell you what objects exist inside those boundaries...

Re: [OSM-talk] Q: Is OSM interested in neighborhood and regional boundaries for L.A.?

2010-06-16 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/6/16 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com: OSM does need to think more carefully about what exactly is in and out of scope. The scope is IMHO the worldmap drawn with the knowledge of locals, that's why I'd consider these informal neighbourhoods precious to our data, even more as they are not

Re: [OSM-talk] Q: Is OSM interested in neighborhood and regional boundaries for L.A.?

2010-06-16 Thread Tom Hughes
On 16/06/10 10:04, John Smith wrote: On 16 June 2010 18:46, Ed Avise...@waniasset.com wrote: A compromose would be to add the centre of each neighbourhood (as locality=place or similar) but not the exact boundaries. That doesn't tell you what objects exist inside those boundaries... Does

Re: [OSM-talk] Q: Is OSM interested in neighborhood and regional boundaries for L.A.?

2010-06-16 Thread John Smith
On 16 June 2010 19:17, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote: Does that matter if the boundaries are essentially guesswork inventions anyway? If we used that logic we would only ever map from very hi-res very high accurate aerial imagery then because anything less is mostly guess work... It sounds

Re: [OSM-talk] [HOT] Humanitarian Presets in French (assistance needed)

2010-06-16 Thread Jean-Guilhem Cailton
Hi Kate, A translation proposal is now in github, under a fork at : http://github.com/rodo/OpenStreetMap-Humanitarian-Tags/blob/master/humanitarian_presets_josm.xml I have assumed that, like the key=... content, the values=... was not to be translated, for interoperability (it was sometimes

Re: [OSM-talk] Q: Is OSM interested in neighborhood and regional boundaries for L.A.?

2010-06-16 Thread Pieren
We already had a discussion about something smaller than suburbs last year: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2009-September/041903.html But I don't know if you consider quarters or districts differently as neighborhoods. Pieren ___ talk

Re: [OSM-talk] [HOT] Humanitarian Presets in French (assistance needed)

2010-06-16 Thread Kate Chapman
Hi Jean-Guilhem, That is correct about the key= and the values=. Thank you so much for your help! -Kate On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 10:04 AM, Jean-Guilhem Cailton j...@arkemie.com wrote: Hi Kate, A translation proposal is now in github, under a fork at :

Re: [OSM-talk] Search index not updated?

2010-06-16 Thread Bernhard R. Fischer
On Wednesday 16 June 2010 10:38:55 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2010/6/16 Bernhard R. Fischer b...@abenteuerland.at: Hi! Several months ago I added some farms (place=farm) in my region. I also added names (name=... + place_name=...) as well as addresses using the addr:*= You might

Re: [OSM-talk] Q: Is OSM interested in neighborhood and regional boundaries for L.A.?

2010-06-16 Thread John F. Eldredge
This sounds like a good compromise to me, as most people will have a general agreement of where a given neighborhood is located, but differ about where the boundaries are located. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than

Re: [OSM-talk] Q: Is OSM interested in neighborhood and regional boundaries for L.A.?

2010-06-16 Thread Ben Welsh
At the risk of over complicating things, let me give a little more info. LA County is a fragmented place with many different cities and unincorporated areas puzzled together. Our neighborhoods are in fact three different types of areas consolidated. 1. Cities divided into neighborhoods. i.e.

Re: [OSM-talk] Search index not updated?

2010-06-16 Thread john whelan
There is a find command in Maperitive so you can work directly with the .osm data and tags and aren't restricted to the indexing. Cheerio John On 16 June 2010 08:17, Bernhard R. Fischer b...@abenteuerland.at wrote: On Wednesday 16 June 2010 10:38:55 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2010/6/16

[OSM-talk] WolframAlpha uses OpenStreetMap data

2010-06-16 Thread Frank Sautter
WolframAlpha uses OpenStreetMap data http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=Berlin Is the license attribution they are using OK? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] WolframAlpha uses OpenStreetMap data

2010-06-16 Thread Serge Wroclawski
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 11:47 AM, Frank Sautter openstreet...@sautter.com wrote: WolframAlpha uses OpenStreetMap data http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=Berlin Cool. Is the license attribution they are using OK? Not according to the FAQ:

Re: [OSM-talk] WolframAlpha uses OpenStreetMap data

2010-06-16 Thread Jochen Topf
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 05:47:05PM +0200, Frank Sautter wrote: WolframAlpha uses OpenStreetMap data http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=Berlin I can't see anything about OSM on that page!? What does it show you? Jochen -- Jochen Topf joc...@remote.org http://www.remote.org/jochen/

Re: [OSM-talk] WolframAlpha uses OpenStreetMap data

2010-06-16 Thread Ian Dees
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Frank Sautter openstreet...@sautter.comwrote: WolframAlpha uses OpenStreetMap data http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=Berlin Is the license attribution they are using OK? Down at the bottom of every W|A page they have a Source Information link. In there,

Re: [OSM-talk] Q: Is OSM interested in neighborhood and regionalboundaries for L.A.?

2010-06-16 Thread John F. Eldredge
Nashville, Tennessee, where I live, is much the same way. In the last sixty years, Nashville has gone from being a city perhaps three or four miles across to being a metro area perhaps twenty-five miles across, swallowing up numerous smaller communities and subdivisions in the process. Those

Re: [OSM-talk] WolframAlpha uses OpenStreetMap data

2010-06-16 Thread Tobias Knerr
16.06.2010 17:47, Frank Sautter wrote: WolframAlpha uses OpenStreetMap data http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=Berlin That's great! It's a useful way to present OSM and it demonstrates growing popularity. If we want to reach a larger audience, we need to be present on search engines and the

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Adding UK post box information

2010-06-16 Thread Richard M Willis
Ed Avis e...@... writes: For example the following row from ... gets turned into the following in OSM: node with lat=51.5729084, lon=-0.0116965, and tags: amenity=post_box ref=E10 18 postal_code=E10 5AH addr:street=Capworth Street I would suggest

Re: [OSM-talk] WolframAlpha uses OpenStreetMap data

2010-06-16 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/6/16 Tobias Knerr o...@tobias-knerr.de: Imo, it is. They name OSM as a data source directly below the image and let you access osm.org when you click on the image. They also give more detailled attribution (with the license abbreviation and another link to osm.org) on the Source

Re: [OSM-talk] WolframAlpha uses OpenStreetMap data

2010-06-16 Thread Joseph Reeves
It's somewhat discouraging, though, that *every time* anyone uses OSM, we instantly react with this: +1 It's really good to see OSM being used for something that isn't a pet project of someone in this community. It was great to go to WolframAlpha, type in my home town and see a map that I had

Re: [OSM-talk] Q: Is OSM interested in neighborhood and regional boundaries for L.A.?

2010-06-16 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
I think it's a good idea but needs a good idea for the tagging with these different combinations and dividing. neighborhood names are common in other cities too and well known to locals. So it is valuable info for osm and should be rendered too. currently some are added as place nodes and also

[OSM-talk] Calling all bulk importers

2010-06-16 Thread Mike Collinson
Hi, If you have been involved in bulk import of data from third-parties, may I ask you to check that this is on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Cataloguehttp://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Catalogue . Why? Now we have final versions of everything, the License Working Group is

Re: [OSM-talk] WolframAlpha uses OpenStreetMap data

2010-06-16 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Frank Sautter wrote: WolframAlpha uses OpenStreetMap data http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=Berlin Interesting, they seem to have their own rendering as well. A little yesterday perhaps with no slippy map and zooming via a dropdown but surely a good start. Should like to find out how

Re: [OSM-talk] WolframAlpha uses OpenStreetMap data

2010-06-16 Thread Jörg Ehrichs
Am Mittwoch, 16. Juni 2010, um 18:41:36 schrieb Joseph Reeves: It's somewhat discouraging, though, that *every time* anyone uses OSM, we instantly react with this: +1 It's really good to see OSM being used for something that isn't a pet project of someone in this community. It was

Re: [OSM-talk] WolframAlpha uses OpenStreetMap data

2010-06-16 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
On Wednesday 16 June 2010 18:00:11 Ian Dees wrote: Down at the bottom of every W|A page they have a Source Information link. In there, under the Mapping data source information they show OpenStreetMap (CC-BY-SA). » http://www.openstreetmap.org/ with a link to OpenStreetMap.org. Yeah. And that

Re: [OSM-talk] WolframAlpha uses OpenStreetMap data

2010-06-16 Thread Serge Wroclawski
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 11:47 AM, Frank Sautter openstreet...@sautter.com wrote: WolframAlpha uses OpenStreetMap data http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=Berlin Cool. Is the license attribution they are using OK?

Re: [OSM-talk] WolframAlpha uses OpenStreetMap data

2010-06-16 Thread Richard Weait
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 11:47 AM, Frank Sautter openstreet...@sautter.com wrote: WolframAlpha uses OpenStreetMap data http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=Berlin Nice catch. That's super. Is the license attribution they are using OK? It looks good to me. Different from what we recommend for

Re: [OSM-talk] WolframAlpha uses OpenStreetMap data

2010-06-16 Thread Tim McNamara
On 17 June 2010 03:47, Frank Sautter openstreet...@sautter.com wrote: WolframAlpha uses OpenStreetMap data http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=Berlin Is the license attribution they are using OK? I think it depends on whether you can seperate the map that Wolfram|Alpha have created from

Re: [OSM-talk] WolframAlpha uses OpenStreetMap data

2010-06-16 Thread Frederik Ramm
Tim, Tim McNamara wrote: The whole thing creates a single creative work. The term single creative work is not used in the CC license text. Displaying OSM content and other content side-by-side does not form a work derived from OpenStreetMap according to community consensus. You need to do

Re: [OSM-talk] WolframAlpha uses OpenStreetMap data

2010-06-16 Thread Tim McNamara
On 17 June 2010 10:00, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Tim McNamara wrote: The whole thing creates a single creative work. The term single creative work is not used in the CC license text. Displaying OSM content and other content side-by-side does not form a work derived from

Re: [OSM-talk] WolframAlpha uses OpenStreetMap data

2010-06-16 Thread Grant Slater
On 16 June 2010 23:09, Tim McNamara paperl...@timmcnamara.co.nz wrote: Sorry if I've neglected to look into this issue in more detail. May I ask, which community consensus are you referring to? OSM or CC? My understanding was the intention behind a share-alike clause is to compel people using

Re: [OSM-talk] WolframAlpha uses OpenStreetMap data

2010-06-16 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
On Thursday 17 June 2010 00:41:43 Grant Slater wrote: Things beyond the map data I am not interested in. Aw, c'mon. You ARE interested in beer and map cakes. :-P -- -- Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@sanchezortega.es ___

Re: [OSM-talk] Q: Is OSM interested in neighborhood and regional boundaries for L.A.?

2010-06-16 Thread Thomas Ineichen
Hi Ben, I'm just wondering: are the suggestions/improvements by your readers based on anything else than Google Maps?[1] Regards, Thomas [1] e.g. http://projects.latimes.com/mapping-la/debates/westside/#comment-form ___ talk mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk] Q: Is OSM interested in neighborhood and regional boundaries for L.A.?

2010-06-16 Thread Ben Welsh
Apollinaris, our boundaries have a classification system we roughed out. How well they would mesh with OSM is something I'd love to hear a critique on. Simplifying things a bit, the taxonomy of our database is two tiers: Neighborhoods and Regions. Neighborhoods come in three types: 1, parts of a

Re: [OSM-talk] Q: Is OSM interested in neighborhood and regional boundaries for L.A.?

2010-06-16 Thread John Smith
On 17 June 2010 14:38, Ben Welsh ben.we...@gmail.com wrote: Thomas, if I understand you right, you are asking about the mapping tiles, correct? All of our mapping tiles are drawn from Google. Though we're using OpenLayers, rather than the Google API, most of the time to pull them in. In the

Re: [talk-au] Hikers on this list?

2010-06-16 Thread John Smith
On 16 June 2010 16:30, John Henderson snow...@gmx.com wrote: I think Peter Ross is correct in that orienteering is the sport with the closest mapping needs to bushwalking. The orienteering information Peter posted seem to have a lot of features specific to that sport... As for the rest of the

[talk-au] Playing with transparent layers

2010-06-16 Thread John Smith
While playing round with mapnik style sheets I came across a noname style sheet which makes a red line for the way: http://beta.letuffe.org/mapnik-styles/noname.xml I extended it a little by making it render up to z7, and it also ignores unnamed roundabouts:

Re: [talk-au] Playing with transparent layers

2010-06-16 Thread John Smith
I forgot to mention, the author of the style sheet uses the following tags to hide streets with no names, or at least no sign posts: tag k='validate:no_name' v='no_sign'/ tag k='validate:no_name' v='yes'/ ___ Talk-au mailing list

Re: [talk-au] Proposal to update weather monitoring_stations using BoM data.

2010-06-16 Thread John Smith
On 16 June 2010 21:56, {Tim} m526244+osm...@gmail.com wrote: In the absence of any objection I intend proceeding with this scheme on the coming Monday (21st June, 2010). Can you please update a couple of stations and paste links showing what you plan to do?

Re: [talk-au] Proposal to update weather monitoring_stations using BoM data.

2010-06-16 Thread Liz
On Wed, 16 Jun 2010, John Smith wrote: On 16 June 2010 21:56, {Tim} m526244+osm...@gmail.com wrote: In the absence of any objection I intend proceeding with this scheme on the coming Monday (21st June, 2010). Can you please update a couple of stations and paste links showing what you plan

Re: [talk-au] Proposal to update weather monitoring_stations using BoM data.

2010-06-16 Thread John Smith
On 16 June 2010 22:24, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: specific request to check hillston airport Station Details ID: 075032 Name: HILLSTON AIRPORT and hay airport Station Details ID: 075019 Name: HAY AIRPORT AWS as i have found those ones and moved them already the numbers on the BoM

[talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-talk] Calling all bulk importers

2010-06-16 Thread Richard Weait
Important information for folks who have imported data. -- Forwarded message -- From: Mike Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz Date: Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 12:21 PM Subject: [OSM-talk] Calling all bulk importers To: t...@openstreetmap.org Hi, If you have been involved in bulk import of

[talk-au] State of the Map 2010 - Girona Spain

2010-06-16 Thread Richard Weait
Hello Australian list, Are any of you planning to attend SotM 2010? Because you should. Book your ticket to SotM now. http://stateofthemap.org/register-now/ If you are considering attending SotM but don't know if it will be worthwhile, I say this. Yes, it will be worthwhile. There is no

[talk-au] Generating good looking PDF/SVG maps?

2010-06-16 Thread Ben Kelley
Hi. Does anyone have any pointers for generating high quality PDF or SVG maps (suitable for printing)? I have a couple of use cases in mind: * My other half would love a large (e.g. A0 size) printed street map. I have found places that can print that size from PDF, but I'm not sure how to

Re: [talk-au] Hikers on this list?

2010-06-16 Thread Tom Brennan
I'm a bushwalker and I'm attempting to map the Blue Mountains, including roads, tracks, cliffs and watercourses. A key reason is that I'd like to be able to use OSM to auto-generate maps for my website, which I currently have to create by hand eg

[talk-au] Residential landuse

2010-06-16 Thread Stephen Hope
I'm doing some work on the outskirts of Brisbane, where the properties start to get bigger, doing some clean up. And I got to wondering about residential landuse. At one end of the scale, you have inner city housing (350-1000 sq m lots), and there's no question they are residential. At the

Re: [talk-au] Hikers on this list?

2010-06-16 Thread Roy Wallace
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 7:57 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: Some of us were discussing making a custom hiking map styles on IRC earlier so we can print out such maps or use them in presentations to show bush walkers the potential of what they can get back out of OSM. In case

Re: [talk-au] Residential landuse

2010-06-16 Thread Craig Feuerherdt
Stephen, I am facing the same issue in Bendigo. I have been considering suggesting a landuse=rural_residential tag. AS you state, these blocks are too small for farming and are therefore still residential. In general, these sort of areas are on the periphery of townships and are a transition into

Re: [talk-au] Residential landuse

2010-06-16 Thread John Smith
On 17 June 2010 10:39, Craig Feuerherdt craigfeuerhe...@gmail.com wrote: I am facing the same issue in Bendigo. I have been considering suggesting a landuse=rural_residential tag. AS you state, these blocks are too small for Aren't they commonly known as hobby farms if you have a few animals

Re: [talk-au] Hikers on this list?

2010-06-16 Thread John Smith
On 17 June 2010 07:17, Tom Brennan webs...@ozultimate.com wrote: Other than contours, the key things bushwalkers want to see for Do you have any suggestions on how contours should be marked? eg every 10m elevation, or 5 or 50 or ... ? navigation are: - tracks - render as dashed black line

Re: [talk-au] Residential landuse

2010-06-16 Thread Craig Feuerherdt
I am sure they are called numerous things, what is the most appropriate/most commonly recognised term in the Australian context? A farm is an area of land that you derive the majority of your income from. Given the drought of the last decade it could be argued that there are many more hobby farms

Re: [talk-au] Residential landuse

2010-06-16 Thread John Smith
On 17 June 2010 11:33, Craig Feuerherdt craigfeuerhe...@gmail.com wrote: A farm is an area of land that you derive the majority of your income from. Given the drought of the last decade it could be argued that there are many more hobby farms across the southern states. Personally I don't like

Re: [talk-au] Residential landuse

2010-06-16 Thread Craig Feuerherdt
are we mapping for tax purposes? what is it referred to in the local government act (or planning act) of your particular state. not all of these properties will be classified as a hobby farm ie I may have 40 hectares but only grow a few weeds. On 17 June 2010 11:37, John Smith

Re: [talk-au] Residential landuse

2010-06-16 Thread John Smith
On 17 June 2010 11:40, Craig Feuerherdt craigfeuerhe...@gmail.com wrote: are we mapping for tax purposes? We map what ever is verifiable, a tax purpose might be verifiable :D what is it referred to in the local government act (or planning act) of your particular state. No idea, I've always

Re: [talk-au] Generating good looking PDF/SVG maps?

2010-06-16 Thread John Smith
On 17 June 2010 06:16, Ben Kelley ben.kel...@gmail.com wrote: My current thinking is that Mapnik would be the best tool for this. I don't know what produces a SVG file, but if you click on the export tag on the main OSM website you can export areas as SVG.

Re: [talk-au] Residential landuse

2010-06-16 Thread Craig Feuerherdt
My argument is that a tax purpose is not a land use - you can run a small business (tax purpose) from a residential address but it doesn't make it a commercial property. On 17 June 2010 11:42, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 17 June 2010 11:40, Craig Feuerherdt

Re: [talk-au] Hikers on this list?

2010-06-16 Thread Roy Wallace
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 11:30 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:   - ideally there needs to be more granularity of track difficulty     - track_visibility=* is probably useful     - sac_scale=* is less useful as it is too specific to alpine areas     - however, something

Re: [talk-au] Residential landuse

2010-06-16 Thread Roy Wallace
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 11:07 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 17 June 2010 10:39, Craig Feuerherdt craigfeuerhe...@gmail.com wrote: I am facing the same issue in Bendigo. I have been considering suggesting a landuse=rural_residential tag. AS you state, these blocks are too

Re: [talk-au] Hikers on this list?

2010-06-16 Thread John Smith
On 17 June 2010 13:49, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: Try Australian Standard AS 2156.1-2001 (Walking tracks - Classification and signage) http://infostore.saiglobal.com/store2/Details.aspx?ProductID=260163 (not free, but try e.g. the following page for some details:

Re: [talk-au] Residential landuse

2010-06-16 Thread Craig Feuerherdt
I don't disagree Roy. I still argue that the land use isn't wholly residential and that these peri-urban areas are a distinct land use. The other alternative is another tag to help (those who want to) distinguish between types of landuse? On 17 June 2010 13:54, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com

Re: [talk-au] Residential landuse

2010-06-16 Thread John Smith
On 17 June 2010 14:09, Craig Feuerherdt craigfeuerhe...@gmail.com wrote: I don't disagree Roy. I still argue that the land use isn't wholly residential and that these peri-urban areas are a distinct land use. The other alternative is another tag to help (those who want to) distinguish

Re: [talk-au] Proposal to update weather monitoring_stations using BoM data.

2010-06-16 Thread John Smith
On 17 June 2010 14:06, {Tim} m526244+osm...@gmail.com wrote: In essence there's six cases, varying in reliability of the result: 1. Example: Ballina Airport AWS http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/741763977 * Site already exists in OSM; both WMO:id and name details match those

Re: [talk-au] Residential landuse

2010-06-16 Thread Roy Wallace
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 2:11 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 17 June 2010 14:09, Craig Feuerherdt craigfeuerhe...@gmail.com wrote: I don't disagree Roy. I still argue that the land use isn't wholly residential and that these peri-urban areas are a distinct land use. The

Re: [talk-au] Hikers on this list?

2010-06-16 Thread John Henderson
On 17/06/10 15:27, John Smith wrote: tagging names... AS2156=* isn't descriptive enough, the standard covers several aspects from gradients to publicity, this document was interesting, if nothing else for the publicity section on the bottom of page 5:

Re: [talk-au] Hikers on this list?

2010-06-16 Thread John Smith
On 17 June 2010 15:46, John Henderson snow...@gmx.com wrote: I may have raised this issue in the past. Walking tracks are never signposted or otherwise marked through declared wilderness areas. This includes some sections of the Australian Alps Walking Track. Maps should not show tracks in

Re: [talk-au] Residential landuse

2010-06-16 Thread Craig Feuerherdt
+1 nothing is ever perfect in everyones eyes, but I can live with it :) On 17 June 2010 15:19, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 2:11 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 17 June 2010 14:09, Craig Feuerherdt craigfeuerhe...@gmail.com wrote: I

[Talk-br] Fwd: [OSM-talk] Calling all bulk importers

2010-06-16 Thread Vitor George
Informação importante para os que realizaram ou estão realizando importações aqui no Brasil. -- Forwarded message -- From: Mike Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz Date: Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 1:21 PM Subject: [OSM-talk] Calling all bulk importers To: t...@openstreetmap.org Hi, If you

Re: [Talk-de] THW und andere Organisationen

2010-06-16 Thread Michael Buchberger
Hi Jan, wie würdet Ihr THW-Stützpunkte und andere Tagen ?? Es gibt da einen Vorschlag: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Emergency_service emergency_service=technical name=THW Ortsverband XYZ operator=THW Tschuess Michael ___

Re: [Talk-de] Wiki bzgl. ref auf motorway_link ändern/ergänzen und ref dort ersetzen/entfernen?

2010-06-16 Thread steffterra
Am 14.06.2010 um 00:49 schrieb Bodo Meissner b...@bodo-m.de: Am 14.06.2010 00:05, schrieb M∡rtin Koppenhoefer: Am 13. Juni 2010 19:20 schrieb steffterra steffte...@me.com: Dass der Weg eine Autobahnauffahrt ist, und wo die hinfuehrt, steht schon in den Daten. Du meinst es steht in den Daten

Re: [Talk-de] Verkehrszeichen Tool Update

2010-06-16 Thread Jochen Topf
Hi! On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 10:36:28PM +0200, Sebastian Hohmann wrote: ich hatte in einem anderen Thread schon auf mein Tool hingewiesen, mit dem man sich Verkehrszeichen zusammenklicken kann und die passenden Tags dazu erhält. Nun ist es etwas erweitert und hat auch eine neue Adresse:

Re: [Talk-de] Preise für OSM-Umfrage

2010-06-16 Thread Sven Geggus
Martin Simon grenzde...@gmail.com wrote: Naja, nach fast 2 Jahren kann man's ja nochmal wagen. ;-) Ich hatte mir das Layout gestern nochmal angeschaut. Spreadshirt T-Shirts mit Flexdruck haben ja eine tolle Qualität. Ich hab mir selber dort schon ein Shirt anfertigen lassen. Allerdings gibt

Re: [Talk-de] Verkehrszeichen Tool Update

2010-06-16 Thread aighes
Hallo, man könnte bspw. wenn bicycle=no auf bicycle=yes|designated trifft eine Meldung ausgeben, dass es quatsch ist. Übrigens hast du Lieferverkehr mit access=delivery drin. Ich kenne es als goods=*. Viele Grüße, aighes -- View this message in context:

Re: [Talk-de] Verkehrszeichen Tool Update

2010-06-16 Thread André Riedel
Am 16. Juni 2010 10:15 schrieb aighes h.scholl...@googlemail.com: Übrigens hast du Lieferverkehr mit access=delivery drin. Ich kenne es als goods=*. Lieferverkehr frei *=delivery wird ähnlich dem Anlieger frei-Schild *=destination verwendet. goods sind kleine LKWs bis 3.5t. Diese

Re: [Talk-de] Verkehrszeichen Tool Update

2010-06-16 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
Am 16. Juni 2010 07:23 schrieb Martin Simon grenzde...@gmail.com: Fahrradstraße ist eine Verkehrsregelung, die Fahrradfahrern auf damit ausgestatteten *Straßen* mehr Rechte einräumt und Motorfahrzeuge erst einmal ausschließt. Daher ist es eher unangebracht, die Straße selbst als Radweg, also

Re: [Talk-de] Preise für OSM-Umfrage

2010-06-16 Thread Michael Buege
Zitat Sven Geggus: Ulf Lamping ulf.lamp...@googlemail.com wrote: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tshirt_competition Aah ich erinenre mich! Das SURVEYOR shirt geällt mir ganz gut. Leider nur PNG kein Vektormotiv. Sonst hätte ich einfach mal nen Spreadshirt Shop aufgemacht. Darf man

Re: [Talk-de] Fahrrad-Access-Map

2010-06-16 Thread Heiko Jacobs
Walter Nordmann schrieb: hi falk, es wurde schon an mehreren stellen die meinung vertreten, dass wir in osm sowas nicht machen. die entscheidung, einen solchen weg zu nehmen, liegt letzendlich beim radfahrer. er kann doch sicher dort absteigen und das bike ein stückchen schieben. das

Re: [Talk-de] Fahrrad-Access-Map

2010-06-16 Thread Andreas Tille
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 05:38:41PM +0200, Florian Gross wrote: Ich würde da fast zu bicycle=no tendieren. Je nachdem, ob man nur Verbote so taggen würde oder auch die physikalisch (fast) unmögliche Passierbarkeit. Das bringt wieder die hier schon früher diskutierte Frage des subjektiven

Re: [Talk-de] Fahrrad-Access-Map

2010-06-16 Thread Guenther Meyer
Am Mittwoch 16 Juni 2010, 13:48:47 schrieb Heiko Jacobs: Walter Nordmann schrieb: hi falk, es wurde schon an mehreren stellen die meinung vertreten, dass wir in osm sowas nicht machen. die entscheidung, einen solchen weg zu nehmen, liegt letzendlich beim radfahrer. er kann doch

Re: [Talk-de] Preise für OSM-Umfrage

2010-06-16 Thread Sven Geggus
Michael Buege mich...@buegehome.de wrote: Ich hab das vor ueber einem Jahr mal versucht, keine Chance. Zitat: Es tut uns sehr leid, Dir mitteilen zu müssen, dass das gewünschte Motiv (siehe unten) mit hoher Wahrscheinlichkeit urheberrechtlich geschützt ist. Die sind wohl schon mal

Re: [Talk-de] Fahrrad-Access-Map

2010-06-16 Thread Martin Simon
Am 16. Juni 2010 14:17 schrieb Andreas Tille andr...@an3as.eu: Ich habe keine Ahnung, ob Router sowas berücksichtigen und setze daher einfach ein 'bycicle=no' mit der objektiven Motivation, daß man mit dem Fahrrad bei schlecht erkennbaren Wegen die Natur kaputt macht.  Sicher kann man dieses

Re: [Talk-de] Fahrrad-Access-Map

2010-06-16 Thread Chris66
Am 16.06.2010 14:38, schrieb Martin Simon: Wer mit dem Mountainbike sowieso überall langfahren will, der wird auch die Abweichung von einer Route in Kauf nehmen. Stimmt. ich habe auch motor_vehicle=no an meine Wohnstraße getaggt, mit der objektiven Motivation, daß man mich nicht in meiner

Re: [Talk-de] Fahrrad-Access-Map

2010-06-16 Thread bkmap
wenn es verboten ist, stehen da auch schilder. Auf Pfaden im Wald darf man zumindest in Thüringen theoretisch überhaupt nicht Rad fahren, wenn es nicht ausdrücklich erlaubt ist. Auf Pfaden ist das laut Thüringer Waldgesetz §6 (3) verboten. Da stehen keine Schilder. Gruß Burkhard

Re: [Talk-de] Fahrrad-Access-Map

2010-06-16 Thread Bernd Wurst
Am Dienstag 15 Juni 2010, 17:12:56 schrieb Falk Zscheile: highway=path, foot=yes, bridge=yes Was spricht gegen ein highway=footway? Ich meine, wenn der Baumstamm so gebaut ist, dass man da mit einem handelsüblichen Fahrrad nicht weiter kommt, dann ist das definitiv eine Brücke, die für die

Re: [Talk-de] OSM-T-Shirt-Shop

2010-06-16 Thread Markus
Hallo Sven, T-Shirt Karten Könnte man sicher recht einfach mit nem modifizierten Osmarender style bauen. Das ist eine geniale Geschäftsidee: *individuelle T-Shirts mit Landkarte* - Web-Interface mit OSM-Karte - mit Zoom, Scroll und Rechteck Kartenausschnitt wählen - Style auswählen -

Re: [Talk-de] Fahrrad-Access-Map

2010-06-16 Thread Falk Zscheile
Am 16. Juni 2010 15:04 schrieb Bernd Wurst be...@bwurst.org: Am Dienstag 15 Juni 2010, 17:12:56 schrieb Falk Zscheile: highway=path, foot=yes, bridge=yes Was spricht gegen ein highway=footway? Ich meine, wenn der Baumstamm so gebaut ist, dass man da mit einem handelsüblichen Fahrrad nicht

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