Re: [OSM-talk] Multiple OSM instances

2010-10-05 Thread Andrew Errington
On Tue, October 5, 2010 23:50, 80n wrote: > Are there any easy and simple steps that can be taken that could make the > existence of multiple OSMs a whole lot less painful? Yes. Combine them all into one project. Call it OSM. Best wishes, Andrew ___

Re: [OSM-talk] Multiple OSM instances

2010-10-05 Thread Peter Körner
Am 05.10.2010 17:37, schrieb 80n: How would a user know which platforms they are able to send contributions to? Is there some kind of contribution hierarchy with PD at the top and proprietary at the bottom? Should there be a registry somewhere? Where is the average contributor to OSM is comi

Re: [OSM-talk] If you've missed this ...

2010-10-05 Thread Al Haraka
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 2:59 AM, Richard Weait wrote: > http://opengeodata.org/osm-founder-steve-coast-leaves-cloudmade I am not convinced it is real until Fake Steve C. says so. All jokes aside, best of luck to him. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstre

Re: [OSM-talk] Introducing Taginfo

2010-10-05 Thread Jochen Topf
On Wed, Oct 06, 2010 at 02:19:49AM +0200, Tobias Knerr wrote: > > Bug reports and feature ideas welcome. > > Do you have a bug tracker for these? You can use trac.openstreetmap.org and choose the component "taginfo". > Anyway, I'd love to see some more attention to values - currently it's > almo

Re: [OSM-talk] spot imagery for osm tracing

2010-10-05 Thread maning sambale
Aww. No SPOTMaps for my mapping patch (Philippines). Just to add to Ævar's request, the mappers in the Philippines would really appreciate SPOT tracing. On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 10:58 PM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: > On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 14:06, Jean-Francois (Jeff) Faudi > wrote: >> I am t

Re: [OSM-talk] spot imagery for osm tracing

2010-10-05 Thread Richard Weait
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 8:05 AM, maning sambale wrote: > Dear all, > > I stumbled into a blog post regarding the french osm community was > given permission to trace from Spot imagery.  Is this for France only > coverage? This appears to be their English version of the license. http://www.youmapps

Re: [OSM-talk] Introducing Taginfo

2010-10-05 Thread Tobias Knerr
Jochen Topf wrote: > For the last months I have been working on a software called Taginfo that > brings together information about OSM tags from the OSM database, the wiki > and other places. Somewhat like Tagwatch, Tagstat, and OSMdoc, but more > ambitious. :-) Very nice site, and some interestin

[OSM-talk] If you've missed this ...

2010-10-05 Thread Richard Weait
http://opengeodata.org/osm-founder-steve-coast-leaves-cloudmade ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Introducing Taginfo

2010-10-05 Thread Lars Francke
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 3:37 PM, Jochen Topf wrote: > For the last months I have been working on a software called Taginfo that > brings together information about OSM tags from the OSM database, the wiki > and other places. Somewhat like Tagwatch, Tagstat, and OSMdoc, but more > ambitious. :-) Co

[OSM-talk] Wiki Key/Value template

2010-10-05 Thread Sam Vekemans
Hi, In the wiki template box for the key's and values, can we include a field for 'ShortDescription' and another field for 'LongDescription'? This way, the end-user can clearly understand what the funcation of the key/value is. and perhaps have another field for 'WikipediaArticleURL' so then the

Re: [OSM-talk] Introducing Taginfo

2010-10-05 Thread Sam Vekemans
Awesome... I guess im a sucker for the manual work :) Anyway, that answers it. So my focus is on helping the wiki editors with making the documentation awesome. I'll be able to run through the map features page and copy the latest in a on-way direction so to make sure the wiki is the most cur

Re: [OSM-talk] Introducing Taginfo

2010-10-05 Thread Jochen Topf
On Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 11:53:30AM -0700, Sam Vekemans wrote: > Are you getting a live feed from the wiki (for the tag descriptions)? > or do you manually copy it in to your database? No manual work involved. That would be way too much work. I wrote a program that finds and parses all relevant wik

Re: [OSM-talk] Introducing Taginfo

2010-10-05 Thread Sam Vekemans
cool! Are you getting a live feed from the wiki (for the tag descriptions)? or do you manually copy it in to your database? my spreadsheet has fields for links to sample pictures and sample renderings which could be possable to run a macro to get the latest update from it? cheers, sam On 10/5/

Re: [OSM-talk] Introducing Taginfo

2010-10-05 Thread Jochen Topf
On Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 06:29:39PM +0100, Dave F. wrote: > a couple of queries: > > If I search for a keyword using the top right box, it displays the > results for 'Keys containing this word' a bit jumbled up. Is it possible > to format the list into a more readable style? The search result p

Re: [OSM-talk] Introducing Taginfo

2010-10-05 Thread Dave F.
On 05/10/2010 14:37, Jochen Topf wrote: For the last months I have been working on a software called Taginfo... Looks like this could be useful. a couple of queries: If I search for a keyword using the top right box, it displays the results for 'Keys containing this word' a bit jumbled up.

Re: [OSM-talk] Multiple OSM instances

2010-10-05 Thread 80n
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 4:39 PM, Serge Wroclawski wrote: > On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 10:50 AM, 80n <80n...@gmail.com> wrote: > > It's inevitable that there will be at least one fork of OSM content if > the > > license is switched to ODbL + CT. > > That's yet to be seen, unless you're saying that you

Re: [OSM-talk] Introducing Taginfo

2010-10-05 Thread Jochen Topf
On Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 06:54:04PM +0200, Sebastian Klein wrote: > I'd prefer if it would not show a vertical scrollbar. This way you could > use the full height of your monitor to read the results. Would it be too > much to ask for, like, a maximum of 500 entries per page instead of > curren

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Checking if I understand correctly...

2010-10-05 Thread 80n
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 5:28 PM, Mike Collinson wrote: > At 02:58 AM 5/10/2010, Steve Bennett wrote: > >On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 8:15 PM, David Groom > wrote: > >> The particular issues I believe you have concerns with have also been > >> discussed extensively on this list. You wont be surprised if

Re: [OSM-talk] Introducing Taginfo

2010-10-05 Thread Sebastian Klein
Jochen Topf wrote: For the last months I have been working on a software called Taginfo that brings together information about OSM tags from the OSM database, the wiki and other places. Somewhat like Tagwatch, Tagstat, and OSMdoc, but more ambitious. :-) I am happy to announce that the beast is

Re: [OSM-talk] spot imagery for osm tracing

2010-10-05 Thread Pieren
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 5:58 PM, Jo wrote: > I downloaded josm-latest.jar, started it, F12, download list, update >> plugins, but nothing related to SPOT is available among my plugins. Do I >> need to add another server? > > > Jo > > Some people resolved this issue by deleting the wmsplugin itself

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Checking if I understand correctly...

2010-10-05 Thread Mike Collinson
At 02:58 AM 5/10/2010, Steve Bennett wrote: >On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 8:15 PM, David Groom wrote: >> The particular issues I believe you have concerns with have also been >> discussed extensively on this list. You wont be surprised if I say that not >> everyone agrees with you interpretation. > >Oh?

Re: [OSM-talk] Introducing Taginfo

2010-10-05 Thread SteveC
but the point is hooking the two things together? On Oct 5, 2010, at 9:18 AM, Jochen Topf wrote: > On Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 08:56:00AM -0600, SteveC wrote: >> The first thing I wanted to look at was this >> >> http://taginfo.openstreetmap.de/keys/FIXME >> >> and then go fix things near me.

Re: [OSM-talk] spot imagery for osm tracing

2010-10-05 Thread Jo
> > I downloaded josm-latest.jar, started it, F12, download list, update > plugins, but nothing related to SPOT is available among my plugins. Do I > need to add another server? Jo ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.

Re: [OSM-talk] Multiple OSM instances

2010-10-05 Thread Ed Avis
80n <80n80n gmail.com> writes: >It's inevitable that there will be at least one fork of OSM content if the >license is switched to ODbL + CT. Just to be clear: there is a big 'if' in the above assertion. I don't think it is inevitable that OSM will split into multiple projects, because I don't

Re: [OSM-talk] Multiple OSM instances

2010-10-05 Thread Serge Wroclawski
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 10:50 AM, 80n <80n...@gmail.com> wrote: > It's inevitable that there will be at least one fork of OSM content if the > license is switched to ODbL + CT. That's yet to be seen, unless you're saying that you personally will make it happen. > So the question I'd like to ask is

Re: [OSM-talk] Multiple OSM instances

2010-10-05 Thread 80n
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 4:14 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Hi, > > > 80n wrote: > >> I'm particularly interested in how it could be made easier for >> contributors to handle the situation. How will they know which OSM they >> should contribute to? >> > > I'd prefer if you chose the wording: "Which c

Re: [OSM-talk] Introducing Taginfo

2010-10-05 Thread Jochen Topf
On Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 08:56:00AM -0600, SteveC wrote: > The first thing I wanted to look at was this > > http://taginfo.openstreetmap.de/keys/FIXME > > and then go fix things near me. Maybe if I click on the map it could redirect > to a nominatim search for that tag, if you can constrain

Re: [OSM-talk] Multiple OSM instances

2010-10-05 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, 80n wrote: I'm particularly interested in how it could be made easier for contributors to handle the situation. How will they know which OSM they should contribute to? I'd prefer if you chose the wording: "Which collaborative mapping platform..." - because there can only be one OSM proj

Re: [OSM-talk] spot imagery for osm tracing

2010-10-05 Thread Emilie Laffray
On 5 October 2010 15:51, Jeremy G wrote: > Hi, > > I'm the author of the blog post. Sorry Emilie if you were planning an > official announcement, I've posted right after reading the info on the OSM > Talk-fr, hope it's OK. > > Once again congratulations to every person involved in this agreement,

Re: [OSM-talk] spot imagery for osm tracing

2010-10-05 Thread Vincent Pottier
On 05/10/2010 16:06, Jean-Francois (Jeff) Faudi wrote: And I just want to correct the spelling for the source tag : source=Cnes / Spot Image Sorry A old family story with the CNET (telecommunication)... -- FrViPofm ___ talk mailing list talk@openst

Re: [OSM-talk] spot imagery for osm tracing

2010-10-05 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 14:06, Jean-Francois (Jeff) Faudi wrote: > I am talking on behalf of Spot Image. At this stage, we are only making a > test over France. As soon as possible, we will try to evaluate the mutual > benefits for Spot Image and OpenStreetMap in order to foster an extended > colla

Re: [OSM-talk] Introducing Taginfo

2010-10-05 Thread SteveC
Jochen this is level 17 awesome. The first thing I wanted to look at was this http://taginfo.openstreetmap.de/keys/FIXME and then go fix things near me. Maybe if I click on the map it could redirect to a nominatim search for that tag, if you can constrain the search to a bbox near wher

Re: [OSM-talk] spot imagery for osm tracing

2010-10-05 Thread Vladimir Vyskocil
> Many people in France have starting using the data to enhance the polygons > that were imported during the Corine Land Cover import. The precision of 2.5 > m doesn't allow too much precision in drawing roads and buildings. It is also very useful for coastline drawing, often better than yahoo

Re: [OSM-talk] spot imagery for osm tracing

2010-10-05 Thread Jeremy G
Hi, I'm the author of the blog post. Sorry Emilie if you were planning an official announcement, I've posted right after reading the info on the OSM Talk-fr, hope it's OK. Once again congratulations to every person involved in this agreement, it's a great progress for OpenStreetMap in general :)

[OSM-talk] Multiple OSM instances

2010-10-05 Thread 80n
It's inevitable that there will be at least one fork of OSM content if the license is switched to ODbL + CT. There are already other projects using the OSM software stack (CommonMap, USGS etc) but none that I know of that are yet using OSM's content. This will surely change if the license is swit

Re: [OSM-talk] spot imagery for osm tracing

2010-10-05 Thread Jean-Francois (Jeff) Faudi
Hi, I am talking on behalf of Spot Image. At this stage, we are only making a test over France. As soon as possible, we will try to evaluate the mutual benefits for Spot Image and OpenStreetMap in order to foster an extended collaboration. Here is the SPOtMaps page in English : http://www.spotima

Re: [OSM-talk] Introducing Taginfo

2010-10-05 Thread Jochen Topf
On Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 03:49:54PM +0200, Peter Körner wrote: > Am 05.10.2010 15:37, schrieb Jochen Topf: >> For the last months I have been working on a software called Taginfo that >> brings together information about OSM tags from the OSM database, the wiki >> and other places. Somewhat like Tag

Re: [OSM-talk] Introducing Taginfo

2010-10-05 Thread Peter Körner
Am 05.10.2010 15:37, schrieb Jochen Topf: For the last months I have been working on a software called Taginfo that brings together information about OSM tags from the OSM database, the wiki and other places. Somewhat like Tagwatch, Tagstat, and OSMdoc, but more ambitious. :-) I am happy to anno

[OSM-talk] Introducing Taginfo

2010-10-05 Thread Jochen Topf
For the last months I have been working on a software called Taginfo that brings together information about OSM tags from the OSM database, the wiki and other places. Somewhat like Tagwatch, Tagstat, and OSMdoc, but more ambitious. :-) I am happy to announce that the beast is now available at

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Checking if I understand correctly...

2010-10-05 Thread 80n
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Jukka Rahkonen wrote: > Ed Avis writes: > > > What I meant to say was: under these contributor terms, OSM is not > compatible > > with itself! Although the OSM project licenses its data under CC-BY-SA > > or under ODbL, it would not accept such licences from othe

Re: [OSM-talk] spot imagery for osm tracing

2010-10-05 Thread Vincent Pottier
On 05/10/2010 15:11, Pieren wrote: On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 2:29 PM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason mailto:ava...@gmail.com>> wrote: but it seems that SPOT is an aggregate of differently licensed data. So what applies to France doesn't for the rest of the world. But maybe someone else c

Re: [OSM-talk] spot imagery for osm tracing

2010-10-05 Thread Pieren
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 2:29 PM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: > but it seems > that SPOT is an aggregate of differently licensed data. So what > applies to France doesn't for the rest of the world. > > But maybe someone else can correct me on that, I'm not sure. > > > SPOT is an imagery provider,

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Checking if I understand correctly...

2010-10-05 Thread Jukka Rahkonen
Ed Avis writes: > What I meant to say was: under these contributor terms, OSM is not compatible > with itself! Although the OSM project licenses its data under CC-BY-SA > or under ODbL, it would not accept such licences from others. > > Whether this really matters, or is just an obscure point o

[OSM-talk] Driver dies in reservoir after following SatNav

2010-10-05 Thread Patrick Weber
Here's another of these stories now common of drivers blindly following their satnav, unfortunately this time, the driver drowned! http://www.reghardware.com/2010/10/05/satnav_error_man_drowns/ I looked up the place in Google Maps, and low and behold, all the roads pre-reservoir are still there !

Re: [OSM-talk] spot imagery for osm tracing

2010-10-05 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 12:05, maning sambale wrote: > I stumbled into a blog post regarding the french osm community was > given permission to trace from Spot imagery.  Is this for France only > coverage? Probably yes. I asked the same question for Iceland once, but it seems that SPOT is an aggre

Re: [OSM-talk] spot imagery for osm tracing

2010-10-05 Thread Emilie Laffray
On 5 October 2010 13:05, maning sambale wrote: > Dear all, > > I stumbled into a blog post regarding the french osm community was > given permission to trace from Spot imagery. Is this for France only > coverage? > > blog post: > > http://www.geographiques.org/carnet/2010/10/05/spot-images-met-a

[OSM-talk] spot imagery for osm tracing

2010-10-05 Thread maning sambale
Dear all, I stumbled into a blog post regarding the french osm community was given permission to trace from Spot imagery. Is this for France only coverage? blog post: http://www.geographiques.org/carnet/2010/10/05/spot-images-met-a-disposition-de-la-communaute-openstreetmap-les-donnees-spotmaps/

Re: [OSM-talk] Bot amended relations today

2010-10-05 Thread Werner Hoch
Hi there, On Montag, 4. Oktober 2010, Dave F. wrote: > User werner2101 has been busy today amended relations: > > http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/werner2101/edits First, all of the edits are done manually, not with a bot. All the edits are done one by one. I check every relation before editing

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim (was ...MapQuest)

2010-10-05 Thread Ed Avis
Shaun McDonald shaunmcdonald.me.uk> writes: >Yep, there is no polygon for the boundary of Surrey that I'm aware of, There are certainly bits and pieces, for example way 32900389. But most likely they don't form a single polygon. What is needed to make it work? -- Ed Avis _

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim (was ...MapQuest)

2010-10-05 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 5 Oct 2010, at 08:43, Ed Avis wrote: > Shaun McDonald shaunmcdonald.me.uk> writes: > For example according to Nominatim Surrey covers most of London http://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/details.php?place_id=559111 >>> >>> Is there a reason why Nominatim doesn't use the administrativ

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim (was ...MapQuest)

2010-10-05 Thread Tom Hughes
On 05/10/10 08:43, Ed Avis wrote: Perhaps I misunderstood what you wrote. I thought you meant that Nominatim when searching for 'Surrey' will use the rough polygon for place=county rather than the boundary of Surrey administrative county. Are you saying the database contains two polygons for

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM and MapQuest [was Hurricane hits MapQuest]

2010-10-05 Thread Nathan Edgars II
Nic Roets wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 2:00 AM, Shaun McDonald > wrote: >> On 5 Oct 2010, at 00:38, Nic Roets wrote: >>> The biggest problem I experience when searching with Nominatim for a >>> street is that you need to guess the place name that *it* has chosen. >>> For example, Hyperion

[OSM-talk] Nominatim (was ...MapQuest)

2010-10-05 Thread Ed Avis
Shaun McDonald shaunmcdonald.me.uk> writes: >>>For example according to Nominatim Surrey covers most of London >>>http://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/details.php?place_id=559111 >> >>Is there a reason why Nominatim doesn't use the administrative county >>boundaries? > >Do you have an example of

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM and MapQuest [was Hurricane hits MapQuest]

2010-10-05 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 5 Oct 2010, at 08:26, Ed Avis wrote: > Shaun McDonald shaunmcdonald.me.uk> writes: > >> For example according to Nominatim Surrey covers most of London >> http://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/details.php?place_id=559111 > > Is there a reason why Nominatim doesn't use the administrative county

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM and MapQuest [was Hurricane hits MapQuest]

2010-10-05 Thread Ed Avis
Shaun McDonald shaunmcdonald.me.uk> writes: >For example according to Nominatim Surrey covers most of London >http://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/details.php?place_id=559111 Is there a reason why Nominatim doesn't use the administrative county boundaries? -- Ed Avis

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM and MapQuest [was Hurricane hits MapQuest]

2010-10-05 Thread Nic Roets
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 2:00 AM, Shaun McDonald wrote: > > On 5 Oct 2010, at 00:38, Nic Roets wrote: > >> On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 12:46 AM, Ed Avis wrote: >>> So, is it possible for Mapquest to generate aggregate information on what >>> name >>> searches people are doing and how often they find th